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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Matthew"
Date: 13 Oct 2003 01:16:17 AM
Object: Truth
I made a bet with a friend for a million dollars once. I won the bet through
my actions. I did not collect on the bet as when I made it I realized it was
in jest. What is true then the bet or the jest.
If your whole truth is money do you even see the joke.
If your whole truth is money would you pay up.
Truth is sometimes not truth it is what you seek.
The search for truth always begins with searching for truth not with
searching for what you want to hear. Sometimes the truth is we can never
find someone else's truth and it is wise not to confuse our own truth with
someone else's.
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User: "Bob White"

Title: Re: Truth 15 Oct 2003 02:54:01 PM
"Matthew" <mlonergan@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:bmdg7k$29dc$1@otis.netspace.net.au...

...
What is true then the bet or the jest.
...

What is true is that you don't know whether you are the boxer or the bag,
old boy.
.

User: "Matthew"

Title: Re: Truth 13 Oct 2003 01:30:00 AM
"Matthew" <mlonergan@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:bmdg7k$29dc$1@otis.netspace.net.au...

I made a bet with a friend for a million dollars once. I won the bet

through

my actions. I did not collect on the bet as when I made it I realized it

was

in jest. What is true then the bet or the jest.
If your whole truth is money do you even see the joke.
If your whole truth is money would you pay up.

Truth is sometimes not truth it is what you seek.
The search for truth always begins with searching for truth not with
searching for what you want to hear. Sometimes the truth is we can never
find someone else's truth and it is wise not to confuse our own truth with
someone else's.



One little bit more I cant find a news group dedicated to the search for
truth. Its interesting that.
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User: "sdq"

Title: Re: Truth 14 Oct 2003 01:22:31 PM
Matthew wrote:

I made a bet with a friend for a million dollars once. I won the bet through
my actions. I did not collect on the bet as when I made it I realized it was
in jest.

Then it was no bet. Is the actor who plays the part of a murderer
commiting a murder when he acts out a murder?
sdq
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Truth 15 Oct 2003 12:41:26 PM
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:16:17 +1000, "Matthew"
<mlonergan@netspace.net.au>, Message ID:
<bmdg7k$29dc$1@otis.netspace.net.au> wrote in alt.atheism;

I made a bet with a friend for a million dollars once. I won the bet through
my actions. I did not collect on the bet as when I made it I realized it was
in jest. What is true then the bet or the jest.
If your whole truth is money do you even see the joke.
If your whole truth is money would you pay up.

Truth is sometimes not truth it is what you seek.
The search for truth always begins with searching for truth not with
searching for what you want to hear. Sometimes the truth is we can never
find someone else's truth and it is wise not to confuse our own truth with
someone else's.

Please don't post when you're pissed.


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.
User: "sdq"

Title: Re: Truth 15 Oct 2003 03:17:53 PM
stoney wrote:

I made a bet with a friend for a million dollars once. I won the bet through
my actions. I did not collect on the bet as when I made it I realized it was
in jest. What is true then the bet or the jest.
If your whole truth is money do you even see the joke.
If your whole truth is money would you pay up.

Truth is sometimes not truth it is what you seek.
The search for truth always begins with searching for truth not with
searching for what you want to hear. Sometimes the truth is we can never
find someone else's truth and it is wise not to confuse our own truth with
someone else's.



Please don't post when you're pissed.


But as the old saying goes "it is better to be ***** then pissed
on" :-)
sdq


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"

When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert

alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}

.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Truth 16 Oct 2003 04:05:35 PM
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:17:53 -0400, sdq <sdq@sdq.com>, Message ID:
<bmka1h$42m$1@Tropolix.UQSS.UQuebec.CA> wrote in alt.atheism;



stoney wrote:


I made a bet with a friend for a million dollars once. I won the bet through
my actions. I did not collect on the bet as when I made it I realized it was
in jest. What is true then the bet or the jest.
If your whole truth is money do you even see the joke.
If your whole truth is money would you pay up.

Truth is sometimes not truth it is what you seek.
The search for truth always begins with searching for truth not with
searching for what you want to hear. Sometimes the truth is we can never
find someone else's truth and it is wise not to confuse our own truth with
someone else's.



Please don't post when you're pissed.



But as the old saying goes "it is better to be ***** then pissed
on" :-)

Hehehe....not all people would see it that way. (Gaaak!)


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.
User: "sdq"

Title: Re: Truth 17 Oct 2003 12:26:12 PM
stoney wrote:

Please don't post when you're pissed.



But as the old saying goes "it is better to be ***** then pissed
on" :-)



Hehehe....not all people would see it that way. (Gaaak!)


I guess some people would even complain about the lack of water sports
at the olympics. :-)
sdq


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"

When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert

alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}

.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Truth 17 Oct 2003 07:00:44 PM
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:26:12 -0400, sdq <sdq@sdq.com>, Message ID:
<bmp8nn$and$1@Tropolix.UQSS.UQuebec.CA> wrote in alt.atheism;



stoney wrote:

Please don't post when you're pissed.



But as the old saying goes "it is better to be ***** then pissed
on" :-)



Hehehe....not all people would see it that way. (Gaaak!)



I guess some people would even complain about the lack of water sports
at the olympics. :-)

And complain with resounding defecation............


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.





User: "Pastor Salt"

Title: Re: Truth 13 Oct 2003 01:54:33 AM
does this have a point at all ??
for what its worth I think your idea of "truth" = my idea of "opinion"
Steve
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User: "Matthew"

Title: Re: Truth 13 Oct 2003 03:29:37 AM
"Pastor Salt" <dontbother@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmdi62$pd$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...

does this have a point at all ??

for what its worth I think your idea of "truth" = my idea of "opinion"


Steve


Truth from every thing I have seen dose resemble ["truth" = my idea of
"opinion"] in a full sense. Your truth seems the same. If part of human
nature is to seek the truth as in "fact" or as in "reality" it is good to
see the pointless so you can get at the truth. Sometimes there is no point.
However have you ever asked yourself why you are misunderstood or indeed why
there is no news group dedicated to truth and the seeking of.
.
User: "Matthew"

Title: Re: Truth 13 Oct 2003 03:43:31 AM
"Matthew" <mlonergan@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:bmdo7l$2cbo$1@otis.netspace.net.au...


"Pastor Salt" <dontbother@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmdi62$pd$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...

does this have a point at all ??

for what its worth I think your idea of "truth" = my idea of "opinion"


Steve



Truth from every thing I have seen dose resemble ["truth" = my idea of
"opinion"] in a full sense. Your truth seems the same. If part of human
nature is to seek the truth as in "fact" or as in "reality" it is good to
see the pointless so you can get at the truth. Sometimes there is no

point.

However have you ever asked yourself why you are misunderstood or indeed

why

there is no news group dedicated to truth and the seeking of.


Point:-
As in what do you seek the truth of.
.
User: "Matthew"

Title: Re: Truth a joke 13 Oct 2003 04:57:31 AM
"Matthew" <mlonergan@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:bmdoku$2cgg$1@otis.netspace.net.au...


"Matthew" <mlonergan@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:bmdo7l$2cbo$1@otis.netspace.net.au...


"Pastor Salt" <dontbother@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmdi62$pd$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...

does this have a point at all ??

for what its worth I think your idea of "truth" = my idea of

"opinion"



Steve



Truth from every thing I have seen dose resemble ["truth" = my idea

of

"opinion"] in a full sense. Your truth seems the same. If part of human
nature is to seek the truth as in "fact" or as in "reality" it is good

to

see the pointless so you can get at the truth. Sometimes there is no

point.

However have you ever asked yourself why you are misunderstood or indeed

why

there is no news group dedicated to truth and the seeking of.


Point:-
As in what do you seek the truth of.


Joke:-
For those who knew me long ago,
Introspection = the wisdom of hindsight.
.


User: "Geoff Offermann"

Title: Re: Truth 13 Oct 2003 07:49:32 AM
"Matthew" <mlonergan@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:bmdo7l$2cbo$1@otis.netspace.net.au...


"Pastor Salt" <dontbother@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmdi62$pd$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...

does this have a point at all ??

for what its worth I think your idea of "truth" = my idea of "opinion"


Steve



Truth from every thing I have seen dose resemble ["truth" = my idea of
"opinion"] in a full sense. Your truth seems the same. If part of human
nature is to seek the truth as in "fact" or as in "reality" it is good to
see the pointless so you can get at the truth. Sometimes there is no

point.

However have you ever asked yourself why you are misunderstood or indeed

why

there is no news group dedicated to truth and the seeking of.

Try talk.origins...
.
User: "the cutest atheist"

Title: Re: Truth 13 Oct 2003 08:15:58 AM
"Geoff Offermann" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Matthew" <mlonergan@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:bmdo7l$2cbo$1@otis.netspace.net.au...


"Pastor Salt" <dontbother@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmdi62$pd$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...

does this have a point at all ??

for what its worth I think your idea of "truth" = my idea of

"opinion"



Steve



Truth from every thing I have seen dose resemble ["truth" = my idea

of

"opinion"] in a full sense. Your truth seems the same. If part of human
nature is to seek the truth as in "fact" or as in "reality" it is good

to

see the pointless so you can get at the truth. Sometimes there is no

point.

However have you ever asked yourself why you are misunderstood or indeed

why

there is no news group dedicated to truth and the seeking of.


Try talk.origins...

and other sci groups like any dedicated to scientific fields, philosophy and
sci.skeptic etc etc...even the religious newsgroups are *ostensibly* about
discussing/finding the truth
it could be argued that *every* newsgroup is used by some to try to discover
the truth
or were you hoping for one literally called alt.truth or similar?
.
User: "Matthew"

Title: Re: Truth 13 Oct 2003 09:15:07 AM
"the cutest atheist" <herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iAxib.149015$bo1.45257@news-server.bigpond.net.au...


"Geoff Offermann" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:wbxib.112920$%h1.121000@sccrnsc02...

"Matthew" <mlonergan@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:bmdo7l$2cbo$1@otis.netspace.net.au...


"Pastor Salt" <dontbother@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmdi62$pd$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...

does this have a point at all ??

for what its worth I think your idea of "truth" = my idea of

"opinion"



Steve



Truth from every thing I have seen dose resemble ["truth" = my idea

of

"opinion"] in a full sense. Your truth seems the same. If part of

human

nature is to seek the truth as in "fact" or as in "reality" it is good

to

see the pointless so you can get at the truth. Sometimes there is no

point.

However have you ever asked yourself why you are misunderstood or

indeed

why

there is no news group dedicated to truth and the seeking of.


Try talk.origins...

and other sci groups like any dedicated to scientific fields, philosophy

and

sci.skeptic etc etc...even the religious newsgroups are *ostensibly* about
discussing/finding the truth
it could be argued that *every* newsgroup is used by some to try to

discover

the truth

or were you hoping for one literally called alt.truth or similar?


sometimes I don't mind the literal
lets not be vague
the truth is out there
or so you say
.
User: "Mark"

Title: Re: Truth 13 Oct 2003 10:53:28 AM
"Matthew" <mlonergan@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:bmec17$2k7f$1@otis.netspace.net.au...


"the cutest atheist" <herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iAxib.149015$bo1.45257@news-server.bigpond.net.au...


"Geoff Offermann" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:wbxib.112920$%h1.121000@sccrnsc02...

"Matthew" <mlonergan@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:bmdo7l$2cbo$1@otis.netspace.net.au...


"Pastor Salt" <dontbother@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmdi62$pd$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...

does this have a point at all ??

for what its worth I think your idea of "truth" = my idea of

"opinion"



Steve



Truth from every thing I have seen dose resemble ["truth" = my

idea

of

"opinion"] in a full sense. Your truth seems the same. If part of

human

nature is to seek the truth as in "fact" or as in "reality" it is

good

to

see the pointless so you can get at the truth. Sometimes there is no

point.

However have you ever asked yourself why you are misunderstood or

indeed

why

there is no news group dedicated to truth and the seeking of.


Try talk.origins...

and other sci groups like any dedicated to scientific fields, philosophy

and

sci.skeptic etc etc...even the religious newsgroups are *ostensibly*

about

discussing/finding the truth
it could be argued that *every* newsgroup is used by some to try to

discover

the truth

or were you hoping for one literally called alt.truth or similar?


sometimes I don't mind the literal
lets not be vague
the truth is out there
or so you say


What's that smell? You freebasing again, Matthew?
.





User: "Dick C"

Title: Re: Truth 13 Oct 2003 12:18:19 PM
Pastor Salt wrote in alt.atheism

does this have a point at all ??

for what its worth I think your idea of "truth" = my idea of "opinion"

My guess is that it is mcnameless still trying to weasel out on his
bet to gen2rev.



Steve



--
***** #1349
"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."
Andre Gide, French author and critic (1869-1951).
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email:

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