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"Eris" |
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14 Oct 2007 06:07:31 PM |
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Turkish troops assemble on Iraq border |
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
Good work men
See you in hell!
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| User: "BigRedWingsFan" |
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14 Oct 2007 06:35:38 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
Yep, that damned Democrat Congress, you'd think they'd have better things to
do.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:3:./temp/~c1105M1xFq::
Submittor of the resolution - Schiff, D-CA.
Co-sponsors - Radanovic, R-CA
- Pallone, D-NJ
- Knollenberg, R-MI
- Sherman, D-CA
- McCotter, R-MI
By the way, ErrAss, the White House is AGAINST the resolution.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/oct2007/arme-o12.shtml (ironic that I'd
use one of your own "news" sources", isn't it)
Good work men
Don't forget Princess Pelosi.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3047633.ece
"Barring an abrupt about-face by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has long backed
the resolution, it will now come to a vote by the full House. "
See you in hell!
I knew you were a Christian. You certainly are a fuckwit, it's no wonder
you only get to use the computer at the "home" on the weekend when your
normal attendant isn't there.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: Turkish troops assemble on Iraq border |
14 Oct 2007 09:43:32 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:35:38 -0500, "BigRedWingsFan" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
Yep, that damned Democrat Congress, you'd think they'd have better things to
do.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:3:./temp/~c1105M1xFq::
Submittor of the resolution - Schiff, D-CA.
Co-sponsors - Radanovic, R-CA
- Pallone, D-NJ
- Knollenberg, R-MI
- Sherman, D-CA
- McCotter, R-MI
By the way, ErrAss, the White House is AGAINST the resolution.
In typical Bush chickenshit way:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/bush-armenian-genocide/
FLASHBACK: In 2000, Candidate Bush Called Armenian Massacre A
‘Genocidal Campaign’
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "dapra" |
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| Title: Re: Turkish troops assemble on Iraq border |
15 Oct 2007 12:14:57 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
....]
In typical Bush chickenshit way:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/bush-armenian-genocide/
FLASHBACK: In 2000, Candidate Bush Called Armenian Massacre A
‘Genocidal Campaign’
Well, the timing of the resolution is peculiar. It will be interesting
to see how it plays out, if it passes.
Turkey were unhappy of Bush's invasion of Iraq, justifiably so from
their point of view. They probably had seen Bush were about to create a
chaos, what he had done.
OTOH, Bush, following the advice of the 'Chicago Boys', wanted to have a
chaos, military 'shock and awe', economic 'shock and awe', peppered with
torture, thousands to be imprisoned and killed. All in the goal to
establish a neo-colonial state, with a neo-liberal economy in the heart
of the Middle East. Like Pinochet did in Chile with a lot of CIA help.
There seems to be one big difference. Pinochet's job, as a Chilean,
were easier to terrorize his own people. The Bush administration, as
occupiers, have a more difficult job with very few local collaborators.
But Bush, his Republican sycophants and the Democratic collaborators,
still push for their dream of a world totally controlled by the
corporate oligarchy.
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Turkish troops assemble on Iraq border |
15 Oct 2007 03:43:45 AM |
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Eris wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
Good work men
See you in hell!
so, you approve of genocide?
redc1c4,
just curious. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "AUK Registrar" |
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| Title: Re: Turkish troops assemble on Iraq border |
15 Oct 2007 06:26:27 PM |
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In <1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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15 Oct 2007 10:28:05 PM |
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AUK Registrar wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
what's funnier is that it's the Democrap's idea he's against....
redc1c4,
(well, no one ever thought he was very bright. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "dapra" |
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| Title: Re: Turkish troops assemble on Iraq border |
15 Oct 2007 07:16:02 PM |
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AUK Registrar wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
Though, I don't understand what the Democrats want to do, some good may
come as a results of their action. Like stopping Bush of further
imperial aggression.
But, it's a lame attempt. Bush is ready to attack Iran. He is shooting
for to be the #1 war criminal of all times. Bush has big shoes to fill,
but he has the firepower to achieve his goals.
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| User: "AUK Registrar" |
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16 Oct 2007 05:16:43 PM |
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In <LPKdnTVgiLhdn4nanZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra
<dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
AUK Registrar wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
Though, I don't understand what the Democrats want to do, some good may
come as a results of their action. Like stopping Bush of further
imperial aggression.
Censuring Turkey will stop "Bush of further imperial aggression."?
I just HAVE to hear the rationale behind that statement.
But, it's a lame attempt. Bush is ready to attack Iran. He is shooting
for to be the #1 war criminal of all times. Bush has big shoes to fill,
but he has the firepower to achieve his goals.
Ah. As always, you take a comment and discussion and try to warp it into
another of your patented anti-Bush diatribes.
Got obsession?
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| User: "dapra" |
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17 Oct 2007 11:28:23 AM |
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AUK Registrar wrote:
In <LPKdnTVgiLhdn4nanZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra
<dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
AUK Registrar wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
Though, I don't understand what the Democrats want to do, some good may
come as a results of their action. Like stopping Bush of further
imperial aggression.
Censuring Turkey will stop "Bush of further imperial aggression."?
I just HAVE to hear the rationale behind that statement.
Turkey could retaliate by shutting down, or restricting the supply lines
to the US military in Iraq. There by dampening Buhs's appetite to start
a new imperial war on Iran.
But OTOH, it's dangerous for the Democrats. They would face a tremendous
backlash, that's why they are backing off already. And it would be
dangerous for Turkey too. The Crazy One might decide to bomb Istanbul or
Ankara, and Teheran too.
But, it's a lame attempt. Bush is ready to attack Iran. He is shooting
for to be the #1 war criminal of all times. Bush has big shoes to fill,
but he has the firepower to achieve his goals.
Ah. As always, you take a comment and discussion and try to warp it into
another of your patented anti-Bush diatribes.
Got obsession?
Is it an "anti-Bush diatribes"? I don't think so. He has proved, that he
can start an imperial war based on lies by a refugee taxi driver, 'Curve
Ball' in Germany. Bush has proved, he can occupy a nation for close to
five years to bring them 'democracy'. It doesn't bother him that
democracy, as defined and practiced by Bush, became a dirty word in the
Middle East and all around the world.
So, Bush is ready to bring 'democracy' to Iran too, by bombing them.
Well, the reasons for aggression may, and do change, but Bush's ambition
to be the #1 war criminal of all times will not. So little time to
accomplish so big job!
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| User: "Matt Osborn" |
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| Title: Re: Turkish troops assemble on Iraq border |
19 Oct 2007 05:15:54 PM |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:28:23 -0400, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
AUK Registrar wrote:
In <LPKdnTVgiLhdn4nanZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra
<dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
AUK Registrar wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
Though, I don't understand what the Democrats want to do, some good may
come as a results of their action. Like stopping Bush of further
imperial aggression.
Censuring Turkey will stop "Bush of further imperial aggression."?
I just HAVE to hear the rationale behind that statement.
Turkey could retaliate by shutting down, or restricting the supply lines
to the US military in Iraq. There by dampening Buhs's appetite to start
a new imperial war on Iran.
But OTOH, it's dangerous for the Democrats. They would face a tremendous
backlash, that's why they are backing off already. And it would be
dangerous for Turkey too. The Crazy One might decide to bomb Istanbul or
Ankara, and Teheran too.
But, it's a lame attempt. Bush is ready to attack Iran. He is shooting
for to be the #1 war criminal of all times. Bush has big shoes to fill,
but he has the firepower to achieve his goals.
Ah. As always, you take a comment and discussion and try to warp it into
another of your patented anti-Bush diatribes.
Got obsession?
Is it an "anti-Bush diatribes"? I don't think so. He has proved, that he
can start an imperial war based on lies by a refugee taxi driver, 'Curve
Ball' in Germany. Bush has proved, he can occupy a nation for close to
five years to bring them 'democracy'. It doesn't bother him that
democracy, as defined and practiced by Bush, became a dirty word in the
Middle East and all around the world.
So, Bush is ready to bring 'democracy' to Iran too, by bombing them.
Well, the reasons for aggression may, and do change, but Bush's ambition
to be the #1 war criminal of all times will not. So little time to
accomplish so big job!
Bush is unwilling to place all Muslims in the same basket with the
Islamists; hence the War on Terror. Of course, that leaves plenty of
wriggle room for those choose to use it.
Bush would like there to be Democracy in Iran just as would I and most
other sane people, including Iranians. However, Bush's primary goal
to preserve Democracy elsewhere and if that means we have to bomb Iran
to stop their nuclear ambitions, then so be it.
Of course, the rest of the shirttailers in the world (Europe,
primarily) will force war because they can't afford the sanctions.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
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| User: "dapra" |
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19 Oct 2007 07:36:38 PM |
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Matt Osborn wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:28:23 -0400, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
AUK Registrar wrote:
In <LPKdnTVgiLhdn4nanZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra
<dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
AUK Registrar wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
Though, I don't understand what the Democrats want to do, some good may
come as a results of their action. Like stopping Bush of further
imperial aggression.
Censuring Turkey will stop "Bush of further imperial aggression."?
I just HAVE to hear the rationale behind that statement.
Turkey could retaliate by shutting down, or restricting the supply lines
to the US military in Iraq. There by dampening Buhs's appetite to start
a new imperial war on Iran.
But OTOH, it's dangerous for the Democrats. They would face a tremendous
backlash, that's why they are backing off already. And it would be
dangerous for Turkey too. The Crazy One might decide to bomb Istanbul or
Ankara, and Teheran too.
But, it's a lame attempt. Bush is ready to attack Iran. He is shooting
for to be the #1 war criminal of all times. Bush has big shoes to fill,
but he has the firepower to achieve his goals.
Ah. As always, you take a comment and discussion and try to warp it into
another of your patented anti-Bush diatribes.
Got obsession?
Is it an "anti-Bush diatribes"? I don't think so. He has proved, that he
can start an imperial war based on lies by a refugee taxi driver, 'Curve
Ball' in Germany. Bush has proved, he can occupy a nation for close to
five years to bring them 'democracy'. It doesn't bother him that
democracy, as defined and practiced by Bush, became a dirty word in the
Middle East and all around the world.
So, Bush is ready to bring 'democracy' to Iran too, by bombing them.
Well, the reasons for aggression may, and do change, but Bush's ambition
to be the #1 war criminal of all times will not. So little time to
accomplish so big job!
Bush is unwilling to place all Muslims in the same basket with the
Islamists; hence the War on Terror. Of course, that leaves plenty of
wriggle room for those choose to use it.
The 'War on Terror' was a slogan, intended to make bin Laden and a few
hundreds jihadest, jumping on monkey bars, 10' tall. The Bush
administration criminal negligence caused 911, not bin Laden's clever plot.
By attacking Iraq, torturing them, leveling their towns, Bush unlashed a
War OF Terror.
Bush would like there to be Democracy in Iran just as would I and most
other sane people, including Iranians. However, Bush's primary goal
to preserve Democracy elsewhere and if that means we have to bomb Iran
to stop their nuclear ambitions, then so be it.
If you look at Bremers orders, you can figure out, Bush wanted a neo
colonial state with a neo liberal economy in Iraq. He has the same
ambition for Iran too. It makes no difference if Iran has a nuclear
enrichment program or not. Bush wants to control the Gulfs oil fields.
Did it make any difference that Saddam let in the UN inspectors? And
they found nothing? No!
An aggressor always make up reasons. Lebensraum or 'hiding WMD's', an
aggressor, a war criminal always justifies its actions. And gullible
people will always believe them.
Of course, the rest of the shirttailers in the world (Europe,
primarily) will force war because they can't afford the sanctions.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
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| User: "Matt Osborn" |
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19 Oct 2007 08:43:08 PM |
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:36:38 -0400, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
Matt Osborn wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:28:23 -0400, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
AUK Registrar wrote:
In <LPKdnTVgiLhdn4nanZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra
<dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
AUK Registrar wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
Though, I don't understand what the Democrats want to do, some good may
come as a results of their action. Like stopping Bush of further
imperial aggression.
Censuring Turkey will stop "Bush of further imperial aggression."?
I just HAVE to hear the rationale behind that statement.
Turkey could retaliate by shutting down, or restricting the supply lines
to the US military in Iraq. There by dampening Buhs's appetite to start
a new imperial war on Iran.
But OTOH, it's dangerous for the Democrats. They would face a tremendous
backlash, that's why they are backing off already. And it would be
dangerous for Turkey too. The Crazy One might decide to bomb Istanbul or
Ankara, and Teheran too.
But, it's a lame attempt. Bush is ready to attack Iran. He is shooting
for to be the #1 war criminal of all times. Bush has big shoes to fill,
but he has the firepower to achieve his goals.
Ah. As always, you take a comment and discussion and try to warp it into
another of your patented anti-Bush diatribes.
Got obsession?
Is it an "anti-Bush diatribes"? I don't think so. He has proved, that he
can start an imperial war based on lies by a refugee taxi driver, 'Curve
Ball' in Germany. Bush has proved, he can occupy a nation for close to
five years to bring them 'democracy'. It doesn't bother him that
democracy, as defined and practiced by Bush, became a dirty word in the
Middle East and all around the world.
So, Bush is ready to bring 'democracy' to Iran too, by bombing them.
Well, the reasons for aggression may, and do change, but Bush's ambition
to be the #1 war criminal of all times will not. So little time to
accomplish so big job!
Bush is unwilling to place all Muslims in the same basket with the
Islamists; hence the War on Terror. Of course, that leaves plenty of
wriggle room for those choose to use it.
The 'War on Terror' was a slogan, intended to make bin Laden and a few
hundreds jihadest, jumping on monkey bars, 10' tall. The Bush
administration criminal negligence caused 911, not bin Laden's clever plot.
Very thoughtful, did you hear that on Air America?
By attacking Iraq, torturing them, leveling their towns, Bush unlashed a
War OF Terror.
Next time he'll just kill them all and the Church of Leftist Looters
will recognize the great victory.
Bush would like there to be Democracy in Iran just as would I and most
other sane people, including Iranians. However, Bush's primary goal
to preserve Democracy elsewhere and if that means we have to bomb Iran
to stop their nuclear ambitions, then so be it.
If you look at Bremers orders, you can figure out, Bush wanted a neo
colonial state with a neo liberal economy in Iraq. He has the same
ambition for Iran too. It makes no difference if Iran has a nuclear
enrichment program or not. Bush wants to control the Gulfs oil fields.
Next you're going to tell me about the proletariat...
Did it make any difference that Saddam let in the UN inspectors? And
they found nothing? No!
You expected a knife in hand, Bush expected the ability to put a knife
in hand. Had Europe been willing to embrace serious sanctions, war
could have been avoided. With France and Russia pushing for the end
of sanctions, Saddam was going to be right back where he started.
An aggressor always make up reasons. Lebensraum or 'hiding WMD's', an
aggressor, a war criminal always justifies its actions. And gullible
people will always believe them.
I have no problem with being an 'aggressor' when the SOB shoves a gun
in my face. Or have you forgotten Kuwait and the Kurds?
Of course, the rest of the shirttailers in the world (Europe,
primarily) will force war because they can't afford the sanctions.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
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| User: "dapra" |
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19 Oct 2007 10:01:55 PM |
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Matt Osborn wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:36:38 -0400, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
[...]
The 'War on Terror' was a slogan, intended to make bin Laden and a few
hundreds jihadest, jumping on monkey bars, 10' tall. The Bush
administration criminal negligence caused 911, not bin Laden's clever plot.
Very thoughtful, did you hear that on Air America?
No. Air America is to conservative for me to listen to them. I just read
selected passages from Stalin. ;-)
By attacking Iraq, torturing them, leveling their towns, Bush unlashed a
War OF Terror.
Next time he'll just kill them all and the Church of Leftist Looters
will recognize the great victory.
Like raping the Ukraine? Or Serbia? Nothing can replace good memories
Matt, do they?
Bush would like there to be Democracy in Iran just as would I and most
other sane people, including Iranians. However, Bush's primary goal
to preserve Democracy elsewhere and if that means we have to bomb Iran
to stop their nuclear ambitions, then so be it.
If you look at Bremers orders, you can figure out, Bush wanted a neo
colonial state with a neo liberal economy in Iraq. He has the same
ambition for Iran too. It makes no difference if Iran has a nuclear
enrichment program or not. Bush wants to control the Gulfs oil fields.
Next you're going to tell me about the proletariat...
There is no proletariat. Only 'middle class'. So they think.
Did it make any difference that Saddam let in the UN inspectors? And
they found nothing? No!
You expected a knife in hand, Bush expected the ability to put a knife
in hand. Had Europe been willing to embrace serious sanctions, war
could have been avoided. With France and Russia pushing for the end
of sanctions, Saddam was going to be right back where he started.
Where did he, Sadam start? Attacking Iran? Make up your mind what you
wish for.
An aggressor always make up reasons. Lebensraum or 'hiding WMD's', an
aggressor, a war criminal always justifies its actions. And gullible
people will always believe them.
I have no problem with being an 'aggressor' when the SOB shoves a gun
in my face. Or have you forgotten Kuwait and the Kurds?
Sadam got a yellow light from the Bush I administration to invade
Kuwait. Was it a yellow light or a trap? In hind side, it was a trap.
The Kurds? They should have their own country, but four states
repressing them, the US is, of course, with the status quo.
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| User: "Matt Osborn" |
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20 Oct 2007 01:30:51 AM |
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:01:55 -0400, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
Matt Osborn wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:36:38 -0400, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
[...]
The 'War on Terror' was a slogan, intended to make bin Laden and a few
hundreds jihadest, jumping on monkey bars, 10' tall. The Bush
administration criminal negligence caused 911, not bin Laden's clever plot.
Very thoughtful, did you hear that on Air America?
No. Air America is to conservative for me to listen to them. I just read
selected passages from Stalin. ;-)
By attacking Iraq, torturing them, leveling their towns, Bush unlashed a
War OF Terror.
Next time he'll just kill them all and the Church of Leftist Looters
will recognize the great victory.
Like raping the Ukraine? Or Serbia? Nothing can replace good memories
Matt, do they?
Bush would like there to be Democracy in Iran just as would I and most
other sane people, including Iranians. However, Bush's primary goal
to preserve Democracy elsewhere and if that means we have to bomb Iran
to stop their nuclear ambitions, then so be it.
If you look at Bremers orders, you can figure out, Bush wanted a neo
colonial state with a neo liberal economy in Iraq. He has the same
ambition for Iran too. It makes no difference if Iran has a nuclear
enrichment program or not. Bush wants to control the Gulfs oil fields.
Next you're going to tell me about the proletariat...
There is no proletariat. Only 'middle class'. So they think.
Did it make any difference that Saddam let in the UN inspectors? And
they found nothing? No!
You expected a knife in hand, Bush expected the ability to put a knife
in hand. Had Europe been willing to embrace serious sanctions, war
could have been avoided. With France and Russia pushing for the end
of sanctions, Saddam was going to be right back where he started.
Where did he, Sadam start? Attacking Iran? Make up your mind what you
wish for.
He had a dormant nuclear program. It took the war to prove that due to
the vicissitudal nature of the US 'allies'.
An aggressor always make up reasons. Lebensraum or 'hiding WMD's', an
aggressor, a war criminal always justifies its actions. And gullible
people will always believe them.
I have no problem with being an 'aggressor' when the SOB shoves a gun
in my face. Or have you forgotten Kuwait and the Kurds?
Sadam got a yellow light from the Bush I administration to invade
Kuwait. Was it a yellow light or a trap? In hind side, it was a trap.
Saddam was as ignorant as Hillary?
The Kurds? They should have their own country, but four states
repressing them, the US is, of course, with the status quo.
You think we should invade Turkey and Iran as well as Iraq to
establish the long lost Kurdistan? Didn't I just read where you said
that the US shouldn't invade people because it pisses them off?
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
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| User: "i2p6 west" |
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20 Oct 2007 01:40:09 AM |
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dapra wrote:
In hind side, it was a trap.
Just a friendly note: it's hindsight...or possibly hind sight. Looking back.
;-)
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| User: "dapra" |
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20 Oct 2007 01:49:33 AM |
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i2p6 west wrote:
dapra wrote:
In hind side, it was a trap.
Just a friendly note: it's hindsight...or possibly hind sight. Looking
back.
;-)
Thanks.
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| User: "" |
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19 Oct 2007 06:05:14 PM |
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There was a democracy in Iran -->Until we had the CIA organize an
overthrow. That was a republican president too. You right wingers never
learn.
In <1maih3ptlmucn0tjmak455pr4s1n9a2kkn@4ax.com>, on 10/19/2007
at 05:15 PM, Matt Osborn <a@b.c> said:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:28:23 -0400, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
AUK Registrar wrote:
In <LPKdnTVgiLhdn4nanZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra
<dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
AUK Registrar wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
Though, I don't understand what the Democrats want to do, some good may
come as a results of their action. Like stopping Bush of further
imperial aggression.
Censuring Turkey will stop "Bush of further imperial aggression."?
I just HAVE to hear the rationale behind that statement.
Turkey could retaliate by shutting down, or restricting the supply lines
to the US military in Iraq. There by dampening Buhs's appetite to start
a new imperial war on Iran.
But OTOH, it's dangerous for the Democrats. They would face a tremendous
backlash, that's why they are backing off already. And it would be
dangerous for Turkey too. The Crazy One might decide to bomb Istanbul or
Ankara, and Teheran too.
But, it's a lame attempt. Bush is ready to attack Iran. He is shooting
for to be the #1 war criminal of all times. Bush has big shoes to fill,
but he has the firepower to achieve his goals.
Ah. As always, you take a comment and discussion and try to warp it into
another of your patented anti-Bush diatribes.
Got obsession?
Is it an "anti-Bush diatribes"? I don't think so. He has proved, that he
can start an imperial war based on lies by a refugee taxi driver, 'Curve
Ball' in Germany. Bush has proved, he can occupy a nation for close to
five years to bring them 'democracy'. It doesn't bother him that
democracy, as defined and practiced by Bush, became a dirty word in the
Middle East and all around the world.
So, Bush is ready to bring 'democracy' to Iran too, by bombing them.
Well, the reasons for aggression may, and do change, but Bush's ambition
to be the #1 war criminal of all times will not. So little time to
accomplish so big job!
Bush is unwilling to place all Muslims in the same basket with the
Islamists; hence the War on Terror. Of course, that leaves plenty of
wriggle room for those choose to use it.
Bush would like there to be Democracy in Iran just as would I and most
other sane people, including Iranians. However, Bush's primary goal to
preserve Democracy elsewhere and if that means we have to bomb Iran to
stop their nuclear ambitions, then so be it.
Of course, the rest of the shirttailers in the world (Europe, primarily)
will force war because they can't afford the sanctions.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
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| User: "Matt Osborn" |
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19 Oct 2007 08:34:20 PM |
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:05:14 GMT, wrote:
There was a democracy in Iran -->Until we had the CIA organize an
overthrow. That was a republican president too. You right wingers never
learn.
You probably believe that Hillary is a woman.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
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| User: "dapra" |
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19 Oct 2007 11:53:29 PM |
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Matt Osborn wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:05:14 GMT, wrote:
There was a democracy in Iran -->Until we had the CIA organize an
overthrow. That was a republican president too. You right wingers never
learn.
You probably believe that Hillary is a woman.
You probably believe that Bush is a man. No. Both are whores of the
corporate oligarchy. Though, Hillary still have to prove herself. She
has prostituted herself already to run for the title of #1 ***** of the
oligarchy.
Of course Bush's scars of his ***** must show, he has always been one,
the corporate oligarchy enjoyed copulating with. It was a union gave
birth to falling dollars, record deficit, record oil prices, bankrupting
the US government. The ugly child sprang out of Bush *****, considered
the immaculate birth for the oligarchy.
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| User: "Matt Osborn" |
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20 Oct 2007 01:19:00 AM |
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:53:29 -0400, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
Matt Osborn wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:05:14 GMT, wrote:
There was a democracy in Iran -->Until we had the CIA organize an
overthrow. That was a republican president too. You right wingers never
learn.
You probably believe that Hillary is a woman.
You probably believe that Bush is a man. No. Both are whores of the
corporate oligarchy. Though, Hillary still have to prove herself. She
has prostituted herself already to run for the title of #1 ***** of the
oligarchy.
Of course Bush's scars of his ***** must show, he has always been one,
the corporate oligarchy enjoyed copulating with. It was a union gave
birth to falling dollars, record deficit, record oil prices, bankrupting
the US government. The ugly child sprang out of Bush *****, considered
the immaculate birth for the oligarchy.
You really have fun with these things, don't you?
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
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| User: "dapra" |
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20 Oct 2007 01:29:57 AM |
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Matt Osborn wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:53:29 -0400, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
Matt Osborn wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:05:14 GMT, wrote:
There was a democracy in Iran -->Until we had the CIA organize an
overthrow. That was a republican president too. You right wingers never
learn.
You probably believe that Hillary is a woman.
You probably believe that Bush is a man. No. Both are whores of the
corporate oligarchy. Though, Hillary still have to prove herself. She
has prostituted herself already to run for the title of #1 ***** of the
oligarchy.
Of course Bush's scars of his ***** must show, he has always been one,
the corporate oligarchy enjoyed copulating with. It was a union gave
birth to falling dollars, record deficit, record oil prices, bankrupting
the US government. The ugly child sprang out of Bush *****, considered
the immaculate birth for the oligarchy.
You really have fun with these things, don't you?
Look who is talking. You started it Matt.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
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| User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore" |
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15 Oct 2007 08:25:09 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:26:27 -0400, AUK Registrar <cjiii@mxyzptlk.net>
wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157450@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
The whole deal is political anyway.
The Democrats screw up our relations with Turkey - then blame the
President.
--
There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
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| User: "Eris" |
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15 Oct 2007 09:09:08 PM |
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On Oct 15, 9:25 pm, Colin Campbell <activated_...@gmail.com (remove
underscore)> wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:26:27 -0400, AUK Registrar <cj...@mxyzptlk.net>
wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
The whole deal is political anyway.
The Democrats screw up our relations with Turkey - then blame the
President.
--
There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
Kind of like the good old days when the Republican's were screwing
things up and blaming Clinton.
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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15 Oct 2007 10:39:41 PM |
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Eris wrote:
On Oct 15, 9:25 pm, Colin Campbell <activated_...@gmail.com (remove
underscore)> wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:26:27 -0400, AUK Registrar <cj...@mxyzptlk.net>
wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
The whole deal is political anyway.
The Democrats screw up our relations with Turkey - then blame the
President.
--
There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
Kind of like the good old days when the Republican's were screwing
things up and blaming Clinton.
he didn't need any help there......
redc1c4,
(all the Republicans did was slow him and his wife down. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Horvath" |
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15 Oct 2007 10:11:49 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:09:08 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote
this crap:
Kind of like the good old days when the Republican's were screwing
things up and blaming Clinton.
Actually, Clinton was screwing up. literally, and blaming the
republicans.
My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
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| User: "Eris" |
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19 Oct 2007 07:29:41 PM |
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On Oct 15, 9:25 pm, Colin Campbell <activated_...@gmail.com (remove
underscore)> wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:26:27 -0400, AUK Registrar <cj...@mxyzptlk.net>
wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
The whole deal is political anyway.
The Democrats screw up our relations with Turkey - then blame the
President.
--
There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
Sounds like the Republicans and Clinton doesn't it?
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| User: "Eris" |
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15 Oct 2007 09:10:42 PM |
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On Oct 15, 7:26 pm, AUK Registrar <cj...@mxyzptlk.net> wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
You say tomatoe I say tomato!
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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15 Oct 2007 10:44:17 PM |
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Eris wrote:
On Oct 15, 7:26 pm, AUK Registrar <cj...@mxyzptlk.net> wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
You say tomatoe I say tomato!
Good work men
Ignoring the 6 women on the committee. Good move.
the difference being that the two spellings you quote above refer to the
same meaning, whereas your original error uses the completely wrong word,
as AUK pointed out.
redc1c4,
thanks for redemonstrating your inadequacy for all to see. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "AUK Registrar" |
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16 Oct 2007 05:19:11 PM |
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In <1192500642.880956.325840@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 15, 7:26 pm, AUK Registrar <cj...@mxyzptlk.net> wrote:
In <1192403251.931149.157...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Eris
<vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
What else can you chickenhawks ***** up?
I guess you didn't know that the Foreign Affairs Committee is run by
Democrat Tom Lantos.
Oh ya you can censor Turkey for genocide that happened about a hundred
fucking years ago.
The word is "censure". Look it up and educate yourself, if that's at all
possible.
You say tomatoe I say tomato!
You say "censor". I say "censure". They are completely different words and
only an irrational, poorly educated person thinks that are interchangeable
in any way.
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