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"Xomicron" |
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21 Apr 2004 04:17:23 PM |
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Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical foundation
of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved stand up take a
stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
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PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
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| User: "Can Altinbay" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
22 Apr 2004 10:35:35 AM |
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:DxBhc.27425$Yf6.11571@fed1read07...
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation
of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved stand up take a
stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
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PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
Sure as long as you are REALLY sticking with Jesus's teachings and not doing
this holier than thou hellfire stuff that most people who call for this
insist on. Many of the preacers live in luxurious homes.
Start by giving up everything. That is the way that Jesus taught.
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| User: "Edward M. Kennedy" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
22 Apr 2004 10:53:16 AM |
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"Can Altinbay" <caltinbaytry123@earthlink.net> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation
of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved stand up take a
stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
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PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
Sure as long as you are REALLY sticking with Jesus's teachings and not doing
this holier than thou hellfire stuff that most people who call for this
insist on. Many of the preacers live in luxurious homes.
Start by giving up everything. That is the way that Jesus taught.
I'll take it off your hands.
Magnaminously,
--Ted
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| User: "Alan Watkins" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
22 Apr 2004 08:01:55 PM |
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Many of the preacers live in luxurious homes.
I am not personally bothered about the luxurious homes. I am more
bothered about "Thou Shall Not Kill."
Kind regards,
Alan M. Watkins
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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21 Apr 2004 05:30:35 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> thought
hard and said:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical foundation
of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved stand up take a
stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
I think Snubis is following me. First, there were posts in AGVNGC.
Then AA. Now RMC.
I think I have a stalker.
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-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, and Krzysztof Penderecki are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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| User: "The Last Church" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
21 Apr 2004 10:28:56 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
<Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical foundation
<of our nation.
You can't restore what never was.
"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife
that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for
centuries." - James Madison
"The United States is in no sense founded upon
the Christian doctrine." - George Washington,
JOHN ADAMS: Letters to F.A. Van Der Kamp 1809-1816. "How has it
happened that millions of myths, fables, legends and tales have been
blended with Jewish and Christian fables and myths and have made them
the
most bloody religion that has ever existed? Filled with the sordid and
detestable purposes of superstition and fraud?"
THOMAS JEFFERSON: Notes on Religion, passed in the Assembly of
Virginia, in the Year, 1786. "Millions of innocent men, women and
children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt,
tortured, fined, and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this
coercion? To make one-half the world fools and the other half
hypocrites.
To support roguery and error all over the earth."
THOMAS JEFFERSON: Letter to Thomas Whittemore, June 5, 1822:
"Christian creeds and doctrines, the clergy's own fatal inventions,
through all the ages has made of Christendom a slaughterhouse,
and divided it into sects of inextinguishable hatred for one another."
"I believe in one God, Creator of the universe.... That the most
acceptable service we can render Him is doing good to His other
children.... As to Jesus ... I have ... some doubts as to his
divinity; though it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having
never studied it, and think it needless to busy myself with it now,
when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the truth with less
trouble." - Benjamin Franklin
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great
nation was founded not by religionists.- Patrick Henry
"The prayers of both [sides] could not be answered.
--Abraham Lincoln's second inaugural address
"The bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements
of Christian dogma."--Abraham Lincoln
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Michael
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| User: "Xomicron" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
22 Apr 2004 07:12:39 AM |
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The Last Church <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:1kee80t4lbic74nj9arc9i5kdahc6r4q84@4ax.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation.
You can't restore what never was.
"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife
that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for
centuries." - James Madison
Of course James Madison is not refering to separation of church and state
as it means today.
"The United States is in no sense founded upon
the Christian doctrine." - George Washington,
George Washington never said this.
I can only assume that the remainder of the quotes are grossly out of
context or completely false.
The founding fathers may have not been the most pious of men but they sure
had no problem with religious influence on government.
A review of a sampling of their activities makes it is clear that the
founders had no intention of neutralizing government from all religious
reference:
A review of a sampling of their activities makes it is clear that the
founders had no intention of neutralizing government from all religious
reference:
The House of Representatives called for a national day of prayer and
thanksgiving on September 24, 1789the same day that it passed the First
Amendment.
From 1789 to today, Congress has authorized chaplains, paid by public
funds, to offer prayers in Congress and in the armed services.
Jefferson closed the Danbury letter, written in his official capacity as
President, with a prayer: I reciprocate your kind prayers for the
protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man.
On the very day Jefferson sent his letter to the Danbury Baptists he was
making plans to attend church services in the House of Representatives.
Jefferson signed a treaty into law in 1803 that provided for a
government-funded missionary to the Kaskaskia Indians.
In response to Congress request of July 9, 1812, President James Madison
issued a proclamation recommending a day of public humiliation and prayer
to be observed by the people of the United States, with religious
solemnity.
In 1832 and 1833, Congress approved land grants to Columbian College
(later George Washington University) and Georgetown University, Baptist and
Jesuit schools respectively.
The Ten Commandments are inscribed on the wall of the United States
Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court begins each session with the prayer: God save the
United States and this Honorable Court.
The ongoing use of the New England Primer in public schools despite its
many religious references.
Most states had an official state religion for years after the
ratification of the Constitution.
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| User: "Dr.Matt" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
22 Apr 2004 09:21:16 AM |
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In article <XEOhc.80839$U83.64988@fed1read03>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
The Last Church <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:1kee80t4lbic74nj9arc9i5kdahc6r4q84@4ax.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation.
You can't restore what never was.
"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife
that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for
centuries." - James Madison
Of course James Madison is not refering to separation of church and state
as it means today.
Cf. Disestablishment of Virginia.
"The United States is in no sense founded upon
the Christian doctrine." - George Washington,
George Washington never said this.
Cf. Treaty of Tripoli.
I can only assume that the remainder of the quotes are grossly out of
context or completely false.
Try looking them up. You may be surprised to find that for
most of them the location of the original manuscript is known.
--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
"Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria."
Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/
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| User: "Xomicron" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
22 Apr 2004 12:38:27 PM |
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(Dr.Matt) wrote in message news:<wxQhc.4367$Nz2.92033@news.itd.umich.edu>...
In article <XEOhc.80839$U83.64988@fed1read03>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
The Last Church <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:1kee80t4lbic74nj9arc9i5kdahc6r4q84@4ax.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation.
You can't restore what never was.
"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife
that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for
centuries." - James Madison
Of course James Madison is not refering to separation of church and state
as it means today.
Cf. Disestablishment of Virginia.
"The United States is in no sense founded upon
the Christian doctrine." - George Washington,
George Washington never said this.
Cf. Treaty of Tripoli.
The final version of the Treaty of Tripoli does no contain that phrase.
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| User: "Dr.Matt" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
22 Apr 2004 12:40:23 PM |
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In article <5b9de012.0404220938.199d790e@posting.google.com>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in message
news:<wxQhc.4367$Nz2.92033@news.itd.umich.edu>...
In article <XEOhc.80839$U83.64988@fed1read03>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
The Last Church <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:1kee80t4lbic74nj9arc9i5kdahc6r4q84@4ax.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation.
You can't restore what never was.
"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife
that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for
centuries." - James Madison
Of course James Madison is not refering to separation of church and state
as it means today.
Cf. Disestablishment of Virginia.
"The United States is in no sense founded upon
the Christian doctrine." - George Washington,
George Washington never said this.
Cf. Treaty of Tripoli.
The final version of the Treaty of Tripoli does no contain that phrase.
Fascinating watching how your mind works.
--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
"Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria."
Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/
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| User: "Xomicron" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
22 Apr 2004 02:38:48 PM |
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(Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:bsThc.4385$Nz2.92002@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <5b9de012.0404220938.199d790e@posting.google.com>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in message
news:<wxQhc.4367$Nz2.92033@news.itd.umich.edu>...
In article <XEOhc.80839$U83.64988@fed1read03>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
The Last Church <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:1kee80t4lbic74nj9arc9i5kdahc6r4q84@4ax.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation.
You can't restore what never was.
"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife
that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for
centuries." - James Madison
Of course James Madison is not refering to separation of church and
state as it means today.
Cf. Disestablishment of Virginia.
"The United States is in no sense founded upon
the Christian doctrine." - George Washington,
George Washington never said this.
Cf. Treaty of Tripoli.
The final version of the Treaty of Tripoli does no contain that phrase.
Fascinating watching how your mind works.
Glad to see you're finally learning the truth from me.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
22 Apr 2004 03:29:30 PM |
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:cbVhc.66994$Gp4.1699021@news20.bellglobal.com...
Thank you, Xomicron/Snubis. Thanks to the tireless efforts of you and your
fellow Christians, we can rest assured that the rest of the world will
continue to view Americans as ignorant, stupid and uncultured for the
foreseeable future. Keep up the good work.
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| User: "Dr.Matt" |
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22 Apr 2004 03:12:17 PM |
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In article <cbVhc.66994$Gp4.1699021@news20.bellglobal.com>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@timepilot.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:bsThc.4385$Nz2.92002@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <5b9de012.0404220938.199d790e@posting.google.com>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in message
news:<wxQhc.4367$Nz2.92033@news.itd.umich.edu>...
In article <XEOhc.80839$U83.64988@fed1read03>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
The Last Church <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:1kee80t4lbic74nj9arc9i5kdahc6r4q84@4ax.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation.
You can't restore what never was.
"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife
that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for
centuries." - James Madison
Of course James Madison is not refering to separation of church and
state as it means today.
Cf. Disestablishment of Virginia.
"The United States is in no sense founded upon
the Christian doctrine." - George Washington,
George Washington never said this.
Cf. Treaty of Tripoli.
The final version of the Treaty of Tripoli does no contain that phrase.
Fascinating watching how your mind works.
Glad to see you're finally learning the truth from me.
Truely, the working of your mind is a lesson... in abnormal neurology.
--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
"Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria."
Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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22 Apr 2004 03:53:24 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl>
in <cbVhc.66994$Gp4.1699021@news20.bellglobal.com>:
fields@timepilot.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:bsThc.4385$Nz2.92002@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <5b9de012.0404220938.199d790e@posting.google.com>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in message
news:<wxQhc.4367$Nz2.92033@news.itd.umich.edu>...
In article <XEOhc.80839$U83.64988@fed1read03>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
The Last Church <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:1kee80t4lbic74nj9arc9i5kdahc6r4q84@4ax.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation.
You can't restore what never was.
"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife
that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for
centuries." - James Madison
Of course James Madison is not refering to separation of church and
state as it means today.
Cf. Disestablishment of Virginia.
"The United States is in no sense founded upon
the Christian doctrine." - George Washington,
George Washington never said this.
Cf. Treaty of Tripoli.
The final version of the Treaty of Tripoli does no contain that phrase.
Fascinating watching how your mind works.
Glad to see you're finally learning the truth from me.
The truth about how brainless fundies live in a little cocoon
of pure stupidity that insulates them from all facts and logic.
--
The Very Irrev. Fear gan dia # http://goddamliberal.port5.com
There's one born again every minute.
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22 Apr 2004 10:59:22 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:12:39 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
<Of course James Madison is not refering to separation of church and state
<as it means today.
Really? I think it has always meant the same thing. Mix god and
money to get politics.
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<> "The United States is in no sense founded upon
<> the Christian doctrine." - George Washington,
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<George Washington never said this.
It is a historical document and can not be denied. George said it.
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<I can only assume that the remainder of the quotes are grossly out of
<context or completely false.
You can hide your eyes but all these quotes are from Government
documents and letters archived and true. You can hide your eyes
but you can't hide the truth.
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<The founding fathers may have not been the most pious of men but they sure
<had no problem with religious influence on government.
Of course not once they saw how to use religious people to get
elected.
< The House of Representatives called for a national day of prayer and
<thanksgiving on September 24, 1789the same day that it passed the First
<Amendment.
How many votes were they able to buy with that?
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< From 1789 to today, Congress has authorized chaplains, paid by public
<funds, to offer prayers in Congress and in the armed services.
Amazing how fast they learn to suck up to a block of votes.
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< Jefferson closed the Danbury letter, written in his official capacity as
<President, with a prayer: I reciprocate your kind prayers for the
<protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man.
God is not a religion. God doesn't go to any church that I know of.
< On the very day Jefferson sent his letter to the Danbury Baptists he was
<making plans to attend church services in the House of Representatives.
Bush goes to church also but you can bet your ***** he is not religious.
If they could get more votes in a ***** house that is where you
would find them.
< Jefferson signed a treaty into law in 1803 that provided for a
<government-funded missionary to the Kaskaskia Indians.
Did he send them any small pox blankets or just let the missionaries
kill them?
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< The Supreme Court begins each session with the prayer: God save the
<United States and this Honorable Court.
< Most states had an official state religion for years after the
<ratification of the Constitution.
Yes the corruption of the constitution began the day it was signed.
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Coven in the Courtroom
Magick is all around us.
One of the darkest forms of Magick around is practiced most every day
in the courtrooms. The judge walks into to the room wearing a
ceremonial shaman's robe, expecting an act of worship from those
assembled, and bangs a shaman's wand on his alter. He then proceeds to
demand a curse from each of his victims, as a price of admission to
the ritual defense. Most modern judges would probably not admit to a
belief in Magick, but they all practice it, and heaven forbid you
should open their eyes and expose their folly to them.
We would all like to believe that judges are rational people who try
to dispense fair justice, but an overall effect of staging a
ceremonial circus can be to create the opposite effect on the
subconscious. If you feel that you are threatened by what is rational,
then you have handles by which to deal with it. If what threatens you
is clearly irrational, then you have no clear defense. The ceremonial
circus has no science behind it, other than the "science" of long dead
magicians. There is no legal body of knowledge (that I could find)
explaining or justifying the whys or where fore's of the ceremonies.
"The Judicial Code of Ethics" makes no attempt to justify it. There
are only bits and pieces of related historical data. In spite of our
Constitution's injunction against the involvement of church and state,
the ceremonial circus is practiced as a Pistic religion, permitting
only those who accept and practice the ritual and ceremony without
questioning, without Reason. Can judges, who try NOT to understand why
they do things they way they do, possibly be reasonable and objective,
especially when dealing with disputes involving religion, Magick or
science? Can we reasonably continue to claim that we have a separation
of church and state when the equipment, procedures and symbols of
theocracy are in use and in full display? I think somebody needs a
reality check.
The judge's robe looks like a woman's garment, because it is. In
ancient shamans societies, women were usually regarded as the more
powerful magicians, so for a man to establish himself as a magical
power in his community, he had to give evidence of having bested a
witch. the common way of doing this was to wear a woman's garment and
say that he stole it from a witch. (As such, a shaman's robe is, in
fact, the mark of a liar, or a thief.)
When the bailiff announces the judge's arrival, he cries out: "All
rise". What he is doing is to demand of those present, that they
participate in an act of worship of his lordship, the judge, as a
divine power (a demigod) in violation Moses' first commandment. If
this isn't enough, the Judge may also demand to be called: "His
honor", regardless of whether he has actually earned that distinction.
A gavel does not look much like a wand, but in Egypt, perhaps 6,000
years ago, when only magicians could be judges, it took precisely that
form. It later became a gavel in correspondence with the rules of
Pagan sympathetic Magick: gavels are used, not to drive fasteners, but
to adJUST the positions of bricks in mortar. JUSTice and adJUSTment
have the same root and are therefore in sympathy.
The original form of the oath of honesty, was a curse: "May the gods
destroy me if I speak falsely". The wording has changed, but the form
and intent, has not. The fact that their demand violates Christ's
commandment against oaths (Matt.5:34) is not completely ignored
anymore. We are now permitted the option of AFFIRMING. This is
supposed to get around that commandment, for those few astute enough
to remember it. Does it? Jesus obviously considered this to be
important enough to warrant an explanation, because he provided one.
"Nor by your head must you swear, because you cannot turn one hair
white or black. Just let your word Yes mean Yes, your No, No; anything
added to this is a deception." Matt. 5:36-37. Doesn't that sound like
he is saying: Don't give assurances; just present the facts as you see
them? This is an entirely reasonable position. It also precludes
AFFIRMING as an option. You are expected to declare: "I wouldn't lie
to you!", as if you could reasonably trust someone who makes the same
declaration to you. This is totally contrary to the rules of
scientific inquiry and the rules of logic. Scientists don't accept
assurances before evidence; they want evidence first, then skip the
assurances. Are judges truly interested in "TRUTH" or "JUSTICE" when
they place ritual and procedure before facts and evidence? Surely,
that is NOT a reasonable conclusion.
So what does the oath REALLY mean? It is possible that judges are
really trying to convince you:
That you will actually be allowed to tell the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth. (You may not. Today, judges can dictate what may, or
may not, be presented as evidence.)
That you will actually be taken seriously if you do tell the truth.
(Since procedure comes before facts, is he really going to care? Since
most courts and police are now financed by fines and bail forfeitures,
does he not have a stake in assuming you a liar, until you can prove
otherwise?)
So, given all this, what can we conclude about our judiciary?
Could it be that they are all just superstitious savages?
Are they of the same mentality as television evangelists, with a
captive audience that they don't have to sell to?
Can a system committed to strict pistic acceptance of superstitious
shaman ism possibly be trusted to be objective? About anything?
Perhaps the whole system is utterly crooked and the ceremonial circus
is just a big happy-face painted on the picture to fool dumb plebs
into thinking its all legit.
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MORE STATEMENTS OF THOMAS JEFFERSON!!
ESTABLISHMENTS OF RELIGION UNDERMINE RIGHTS:
"The clergy, by getting themselves established by law and engrafted
into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine
against the civil and religious rights of man." --Thomas Jefferson to
Jeremiah Moor, 1800.
"The Christian religion, when divested of the rags in which they [the
clergy] have enveloped it, and brought to the original purity and
simplicity of it's benevolent institutor, is a religion of all others
most friendly to liberty, science, and the freest expansion of the
human mind." --Thomas Jefferson to Moses Robinson, 1801. ME 10:237
"But a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of
the Jewish religion, before his principles were departed from by
those who professed to be his special servants, and perverted into an
engine for enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in
Church and State." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1810. ME
12:345
"[If] the nature of... government [were] a subordination of the civil
to the ecclesiastical power, I [would] consider it as desperate for
long years to come. Their steady habits [will] exclude the advances
of information, and they [will] seem exactly where they [have always
been]. And there [the] clergy will always keep them if they can.
[They] will follow the bark of liberty only by the help of a tow-
rope." --Thomas Jefferson to Pierrepont Edwards, July 1801. (*)
"This doctrine ['that the condition of man cannot be ameliorated,
that what has been must ever be, and that to secure ourselves where
we are we must tread with awful reverence in the footsteps of our
fathers'] is the genuine fruit of the alliance between Church and
State, the tenants of which finding themselves but too well in their
present condition, oppose all advances which might unmask their
usurpations and monopolies of honors, wealth and power, and fear
every change as endangering the comforts they now hold." --Thomas
Jefferson: Report for University of Virginia, 1818.
"I am for freedom of religion, and against all maneuvers to bring
about a legal ascendency of one sect over another." --Thomas
Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799. ME 10:78
"The advocate of religious freedom is to expect neither peace nor
forgiveness from [the clergy]." --Thomas Jefferson to Levi Lincoln,
1802. ME 10:305
"The clergy...believe that any portion of power confided to me [as
President] will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they
believe rightly: for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal
hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But
this is all they have to fear from me: and enough, too, in their
opinion." --Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1800. ME 10:173
"Believing... that religion is a matter which lies solely between man
and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his
worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only,
and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of
the whole American people which declared that their Legislature
should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of
separation between Church and State." --Thomas Jefferson to Danbury
Baptists, 1802. ME 16:281
"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of
ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will
always avail themselves for their own purposes." --Thomas Jefferson
to Alexander von Humboldt, 1813. ME 14:21
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to
liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his
abuses in return for protection to his own." --Thomas Jefferson to
Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:119
"I have been just reading the new constitution of Spain. One of its
fundamental bases is expressed in these words: 'The Roman Catholic
religion, the only true one, is, and always shall be, that of the
Spanish nation. The government protects it by wise and just laws, and
prohibits the exercise of any other whatever.' Now I wish this
presented to those who question what [a bookseller] may sell or we
may buy, with a request to strike out the words, 'Roman Catholic,'
and to insert the denomination of their own religion. This would
ascertain the code of dogmas which each wishes should domineer over
the opinions of all others, and be taken, like the Spanish religion,
under the 'protection of wise and just laws.' It would show to what
they wish to reduce the liberty for which one generation has
sacrificed life and happiness. It would present our boasted freedom
of religion as a thing of theory only, and not of practice, as what
would be a poor exchange for the theoretic thraldom, but practical
freedom of Europe." --Thomas Jefferson to N. G. Dufief, 1814. ME
14:128
THE BENEFITS OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM:
"The law for religious freedom... [has] put down the aristocracy of
the clergy and restored to the citizen the freedom of the mind." --
Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:400
"[When] the [Virginia] bill for establishing religious freedom... was
finally passed,... a singular proposition proved that its protection
of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares
that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our
religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus
Christ," so that it should read "a departure from the plan of Jesus
Christ, the holy author of our religion." The insertion was rejected
by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend within
the mantle of its protection the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian
and Mahometan, the Hindoo and infidel of every denomination." --
Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821. ME 1:67
"No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious
worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced,
restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor...
otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief...
All men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain their
opinions in matters of religion, and... the same shall in no wise
diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities." --Thomas
Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. ME 2:302, Papers
2:546
"Our civil rights have no dependence upon our religious opinions more
than our opinions in physics or geometry." --Thomas Jefferson:
Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. ME 2:301, Papers 2:545
"We have no right to prejudice another in his civil enjoyments
because he is of another church." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on
Religion, 1776. Papers 1:546
"The proscribing any citizen as unworthy the public confidence by
laying upon him an incapacity of being called to offices of trust and
emolument unless he profess or renounce this or that religious
opinion is depriving him injuriously of those privileges and
advantages to which, in common with his fellow citizens, he has a
natural right." --Thomas Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom,
1779. ME 2:301, Papers 2:546
"A recollection of our former vassalage in religion and civil
government will unite the zeal of every heart, and the energy of
every hand, to preserve that independence in both which, under the
favor of Heaven, a disinterested devotion to the public cause first
achieved, and a disinterested sacrifice of private interests will now
maintain." --Thomas Jefferson to Baltimore Baptists, 1808. ME 16:318
OTHER STATEMENTS:
The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the
Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed
with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.
Thomas Jefferson, 1823
Neither the trappings of robes, nor temples of stone, nor a fixed
liturgy, nor an extensive literature or history is required to meet
the test of beliefs cognizable under the Constitution as religious.
So far as our law is concerned, one person's religious beliefs held
for one day are presumptively entitled to the same protection as the
beliefs of millions which have been shared for thousands of years.
-- Judge Jack Weinstein, New York State, 1977
**************************
..
Michael
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22 Apr 2004 03:43:22 PM |
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Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<XEOhc.80839$U83.64988@fed1read03>...
The Last Church <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:1kee80t4lbic74nj9arc9i5kdahc6r4q84@4ax.com:
*snippage*
? The Ten Commandments are inscribed on the wall of the United States
Supreme Court
Pray tell, where in the USSC are the commandments inscribed?
As far as I can tell, nowhere in the entire building, are the Commandments
themselves written out. (Paired tablets are associated with Moses, who
is in turn, associated with other notable lawgivers such as Solon,
Confucius, King John, Charlemagne, etc. but the tablets that Moses holds
are blank.)
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22 Apr 2004 07:32:28 PM |
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(Dave) wrote in
news:3ef83eec.0404221243.5d8a5f6a@posting.google.com:
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:<XEOhc.80839$U83.64988@fed1read03>...
The Last Church <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:1kee80t4lbic74nj9arc9i5kdahc6r4q84@4ax.com:
*snippage*
? The Ten Commandments are inscribed on the wall of the United States
Supreme Court
Pray tell, where in the USSC are the commandments inscribed?
As far as I can tell, nowhere in the entire building, are the
Commandments themselves written out. (Paired tablets are associated
with Moses, who is in turn, associated with other notable lawgivers such
as Solon, Confucius, King John, Charlemagne, etc. but the tablets that
Moses holds are blank.)
Actually inscribed with 1-10 ...
.... perhaps representing a recent Letterman top ten list.
Including any particular religious document, while
forbidding others that were requested _would_ be
"shoving a religious viewpoint down your gullet".
o A figure of the crucified Christ is in the Rotunda.
o In the Prayer room in the Capitol, a large open Bible
lies on the altar facing a stained glass window
showing George Washington in prayer.
o Cut into a marble fireplace in the Capitol is President
John Adam's prayer.
o Displayed on the walls of the Library of Congress are
quotations from Psalms, Proverbs and Micah.
o Eight selections of Scriptures are inscribed in the stone
blocks of the Washington Monument.
o Matthew 18:7 is inscribed on the Lincoln Memorial.
o Leviticus 25:10 is inscribed on the Liberty Bell.
We're not taking them down. It's not pornography, you know.
You may accept the underlying beliefs or ignore them
entirely. If you want Confucious, The Code of Hammurabi
and the Magna Carta in the next building, that's fine. If
nobody asks for them, they're built with some religious
inscriptions, and you're later offended by the uneven
treatment ...
... too bad.
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22 Apr 2004 12:18:20 AM |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical foundation
of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved stand up take a
stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
--
PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
What da ***** does this have to do with wabbits?
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22 Apr 2004 03:05:47 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical foundation
of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved stand up take a
stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
--
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
W. Syme (pseudonym), European, non-native English speaker, "soft" atheist.
Email will not be read.
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22 Apr 2004 03:09:05 PM |
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W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
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22 Apr 2004 03:47:50 PM |
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In article <k9Q2pWKKEHA.1140@prospero.stardock.local>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Prove that the Invisible Pink Unicorn doesn't exist!
http://www.geocities.com/ipu_temple
--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
"Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria."
Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/
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22 Apr 2004 04:47:39 PM |
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(Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:WbWhc.4401$Nz2.92410@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <k9Q2pWKKEHA.1140@prospero.stardock.local>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Can you prove that you exist?
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22 Apr 2004 06:05:40 PM |
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In article <%3Xhc.34601$fq4.20319@lakeread05>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:WbWhc.4401$Nz2.92410@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <k9Q2pWKKEHA.1140@prospero.stardock.local>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Can you prove that you exist?
If you don't believe that I exist, come over here where I can kick you.
--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
"Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria."
Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/
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23 Apr 2004 11:27:37 AM |
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(Dr.Matt) wrote in news:8dYhc.4402
$Nz2.92471@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <%3Xhc.34601$fq4.20319@lakeread05>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:WbWhc.4401$Nz2.92410@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <k9Q2pWKKEHA.1140@prospero.stardock.local>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Can you prove that you exist?
If you don't believe that I exist, come over here where I can kick you.
Is that a no?
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23 Apr 2004 12:11:10 PM |
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In article <Ztbic.108294$_g4.25526570@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@mspacman.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in news:8dYhc.4402
$Nz2.92471@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <%3Xhc.34601$fq4.20319@lakeread05>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:WbWhc.4401$Nz2.92410@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <k9Q2pWKKEHA.1140@prospero.stardock.local>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Can you prove that you exist?
If you don't believe that I exist, come over here where I can kick you.
Is that a no?
Nope. Now, come over here where I can kick you.
--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
"Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria."
Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/
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23 Apr 2004 12:20:31 PM |
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In article <O6cic.4459$Nz2.92910@news.itd.umich.edu>,
Dr.Matt <fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu> wrote:
In article <Ztbic.108294$_g4.25526570@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@mspacman.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in news:8dYhc.4402
$Nz2.92471@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <%3Xhc.34601$fq4.20319@lakeread05>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:WbWhc.4401$Nz2.92410@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <k9Q2pWKKEHA.1140@prospero.stardock.local>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Can you prove that you exist?
If you don't believe that I exist, come over here where I can kick you.
Is that a no?
Nope. Now, come over here where I can kick you.
As you are having a lot of trouble understanding the logic behind this,
let me spell it out for you.
A person who doesn't exist cannot hurt you. Now, come over here where
I can kick you. If you don't believe that I exist, you ought to be
unafraid to do so. After all, imaginary people cannot kick you. Come
on, don't be a wimp!
--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
"Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria."
Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/
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27 Apr 2004 08:46:24 AM |
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(Dr.Matt) wrote:
In article <O6cic.4459$Nz2.92910@news.itd.umich.edu>,
Dr.Matt < > wrote:
In article <Ztbic.108294$_g4.25526570@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@mspacman.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in news:8dYhc.4402
$Nz2.92471@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <%3Xhc.34601$fq4.20319@lakeread05>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
(Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:WbWhc.4401$Nz2.92410@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <k9Q2pWKKEHA.1140@prospero.stardock.local>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Can you prove that you exist?
If you don't believe that I exist, come over here where I can kick you.
Is that a no?
Nope. Now, come over here where I can kick you.
As you are having a lot of trouble understanding the logic behind this,
let me spell it out for you.
A person who doesn't exist cannot hurt you. Now, come over here where
I can kick you. If you don't believe that I exist, you ought to be
unafraid to do so. After all, imaginary people cannot kick you. Come
on, don't be a wimp!
Xomicron: Go and kick him in the teeth until the astral projection.
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27 Apr 2004 02:55:10 PM |
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In article <a1ps801lc2g2nr865e6bgsae13pg79dmra@4ax.com>,
charlie at the sea <charlie@the.sea> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote:
In article <O6cic.4459$Nz2.92910@news.itd.umich.edu>,
Dr.Matt <fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu> wrote:
In article <Ztbic.108294$_g4.25526570@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@mspacman.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in news:8dYhc.4402
$Nz2.92471@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <%3Xhc.34601$fq4.20319@lakeread05>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:WbWhc.4401$Nz2.92410@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <k9Q2pWKKEHA.1140@prospero.stardock.local>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Can you prove that you exist?
If you don't believe that I exist, come over here where I can kick you.
Is that a no?
Nope. Now, come over here where I can kick you.
As you are having a lot of trouble understanding the logic behind this,
let me spell it out for you.
A person who doesn't exist cannot hurt you. Now, come over here where
I can kick you. If you don't believe that I exist, you ought to be
unafraid to do so. After all, imaginary people cannot kick you. Come
on, don't be a wimp!
Xomicron: Go and kick him in the teeth until the astral projection.
I see you wanna play "let's you and him fight". Wimp.
--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
"Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria."
Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/
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23 Apr 2004 05:29:11 AM |
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Dr.Matt wrote:
In article <%3Xhc.34601$fq4.20319@lakeread05>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:WbWhc.4401$Nz2.92410@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <k9Q2pWKKEHA.1140@prospero.stardock.local>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Can you prove that you exist?
If you don't believe that I exist, come over here where I can kick you.
This reminds me of Robert A. Heinlein's terrific short story "All You
Zombies", in which the protagonist, through a series of events, becomes
the very cause of his own existence and realises that he is responsible
for his own origin all by himself. The question that remains is: who is
everybody else?
--
Nicolai P. Zwar
"Quite frankly, I'd much rather be David Lee Roth with a blonde on his
arm than a damp and dumpy water fowl with a zit on his nose!! But then
that pretty much goes without saying."
(Opus)
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27 Apr 2004 03:49:03 PM |
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Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<%3Xhc.34601$fq4.20319@lakeread05>...
fields@rastan.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt) wrote in
news:WbWhc.4401$Nz2.92410@news.itd.umich.edu:
In article <k9Q2pWKKEHA.1140@prospero.stardock.local>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:0f5a95a4e91e6d4c08c549cfe4652a95@news.1usenet.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:17:23 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
Go here and lets sign the petition to restore the moral biblical
foundation of our nation. Calling all true believers to get involved
stand up take a stand for the lord Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name.
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/
http://www.afa.net/
Great, a country founded on a nonexistent and imaginary being.
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Can you prove that you exist?
Can you prove god exists? Bet not.
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| User: "Samuel Vriezen" |
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| Title: Re: Turn america back to the one true Lord thy god Jesus |
22 Apr 2004 05:37:10 PM |
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Xomicron wrote:
Prove God doesn't exist.
And he's a burden-shifter too!
Can you prove that you exist?
No, but I'm sure God could, if only he existed.
Aw hell, let's just have God exist on probation or something.
--
samuel
concerten.free.fr
http://composers21.com/compdocs/vriezens.htm
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....nur mittelmaessige Auffuehrungen koennen mich retten! Vollstaendig
gute muessen die Leute verrueckt machen...
- R. Wagner
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