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"Flint Mitchell" |
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21 Jan 2005 08:19:09 AM |
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turn your back on Bush-- what happened? |
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as far as
the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing mention on
one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: turn your back on Bush-- what happened? |
21 Jan 2005 08:48:24 AM |
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"Flint Mitchell" <lisfanpress@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in
news:35chb0F4jh57kU1@individual.net:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as far
as the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing
mention on one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on
the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
They got about five seconds on ABC.
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Fred Stone
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Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: turn your back on Bush-- what happened? |
21 Jan 2005 08:27:17 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:48:24 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Flint Mitchell" <lisfanpress@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in
news:35chb0F4jh57kU1@individual.net:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as far
as the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing
mention on one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on
the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
They got about five seconds on ABC.
Liberal media strikes again.
Oh, yeah, guess it didn't because it isn't....
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: turn your back on Bush-- what happened? |
22 Jan 2005 12:33:34 PM |
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(Kate ) wrote in news:41fdb94b.105977250@news-
west.newscene.com:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:48:24 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Flint Mitchell" <lisfanpress@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in
news:35chb0F4jh57kU1@individual.net:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as
far
as the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing
mention on one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on
the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
They got about five seconds on ABC.
Liberal media strikes again.
Oh, yeah, guess it didn't because it isn't....
In the course of their inaugural coverage, ABC managed to bring up
everything negative that has ever been said about Bush, and even had the
class to specifically find and show a military funeral for a serviceman
who died in Iraq.
Yes, liberal media lives.
http://www.mediaresearch.org/
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: turn your back on Bush-- what happened? |
21 Jan 2005 11:01:19 AM |
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Flint Mitchell wrote:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as
far as
the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing
mention on
one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
It dependeed upon which news channel you watched. ABC showed some of
the protests. (It was funny to see some protesters, way off the parade
route, throwing snowballs at the police and the police spraying them
with pepper spray for it.) CBS mentioned them in their evening news,
but if they showed it during the parade I missed it. NBC didn't show
any dissent that I saw. Of course I was flipping channels so I might
have missed a word here and there.
jwk
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: turn your back on Bush-- what happened? |
21 Jan 2005 09:01:36 AM |
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Flint Mitchell wrote:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as far as
the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing mention on
one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
Ho hum.....
http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/january2005/210105dubbedout.htm
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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| Title: Re: turn your back on Bush-- what happened? |
22 Jan 2005 06:10:07 PM |
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In article <35chb0F4jh57kU1@individual.net>, Flint Mitchell
said...
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
We live in Oceania. Of course we didn't see much of the protest.
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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21 Jan 2005 05:02:51 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:19:09 -0600, "Flint Mitchell"
<lisfanpress@NOSPAMhotmail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as far as
the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing mention on
one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
It was mainly due to the 'Librul' news shows not showing the dissent.
(Whether they were told to not show it is another matter. The
presidential news 'conferences' are all scripted, so would a scripted
inauguration be such a far out idea? We already know about protestors
being 'corralled' blocks from anywhere the President might be.)
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"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: turn your back on Bush-- what happened? |
22 Jan 2005 04:15:45 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:02:51 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:19:09 -0600, "Flint Mitchell"
<lisfanpress@NOSPAMhotmail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as far as
the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing mention on
one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
It was mainly due to the 'Librul' news shows not showing the dissent.
(Whether they were told to not show it is another matter. The
presidential news 'conferences' are all scripted, so would a scripted
inauguration be such a far out idea? We already know about protestors
being 'corralled' blocks from anywhere the President might be.)
The reason I wouldn't turn my back on Bush is that's a good way to get
stabbed in the front.
drift
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| User: "stoney" |
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23 Jan 2005 11:32:49 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:19:09 -0600, "Flint Mitchell"
<lisfanpress@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as far as
the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing mention on
one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-nyhen214121505jan21,0,6136269.column?coll=ny-news-columnists
A real patriot sends a silent message
Ellis Henican
January 21, 2005
It's always the men who've never fought one who call the loudest for
war. It's the quiet dissent that tends to come from men who have.
Men like Alex Ryabov.
Alex is 22 years old. He was born in Ukraine and moved as a child to
Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn. When he was old enough, he was proud to
join the Marines. Without complaint, he went off to fight in Operation
Iraqi Freedom, the hopeful name the Bush administration gave to the
early part of the war. This gung-ho corporal was ammo chief for
R-battery, 5th Battalion, 10th Regiment, a legendarily tough artillery
unit that brought giant howitzers into war. R-battery seemed to be
everywhere when U.S. troops rolled across Iraq.
"We moved in from the Kuwait-Iraq border," Alex was recalling
yesterday. "Fired into Nasiriyah. Fired into Baghdad. We kept on
firing all the way to Tikrit."
The war comes alive when he talks. But as Alex spoke yesterday, he was
about as far as you could get from those battered Iraqi cities and the
people on both sides who died there. He was standing at Constitution
Avenue and Third Street in the heart of downtown Washington, waiting
for his former commander-in-chief to roll by.
Four blocks away at the Capitol, George W. Bush had delivered an
especially pugnacious inaugural address. It was wrapped in the
sentimental language of modern politics. But the meaning was
infinitely clear, as far-reaching and as bellicose as any inaugural
ever. Bush sketched out his second-term vision for America, a nation
with an almost moral duty to topple whatever governments don't meet
our definition of free.
"It is the policy of the United States," Bush announced, "to seek and
support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every
nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our
world. ... America's influence is considerable, and we will use it
confidently in freedom's cause."
What nations come next? When will persuasion give way to invasion?
Which allies will join us? Where will we get the troops? Bush didn't
say. But he left no doubt in the crisp Washington air: If he has his
way, Iraq won't be his last war.
With his curly, close-cropped hair and his favorite camouflage pants,
Alex Ryabov wasn't the only military man who felt a need to register
dissent yesterday. These soldiers with doubts are still a minority in
the military. But their numbers are growing. Their boldness, too. And
they were a surprising part of yesterday's presidential inaugural
events.
Said Alex: "The president told us Iraq was a threat to our freedom.
But how much of a threat could it be if we could take the capital in
three weeks? I knew I had to come down from New York and stand with
other veterans in the cold. We had to say, 'No, this doesn't make any
sense.'"
It is not easy for a military man to talk like that. No gung-ho Marine
from Brooklyn is raised to protest wars. But it's been truly
heartening, Alex said, to meet so many others - soldiers still, but
soldiers who've learned from all they've seen.
"When I got back from Iraq," he said, "I didn't know so many veterans
were thinking like I was. More and more are coming forward every day."
He didn't shout when the president's limousine passed.
He didn't wave a sign or demand impeachment.
In fact, to be precise about it, he didn't say anything at all.
But yesterday afternoon, at the corner of Constitution and Third, Alex
Ryabov - and quite a few others, too - turned their backs in silent
protest as the president rode by.
It was hard to know if Bush even saw them through the smoky glass of
his limousine. But the president's security detail apparently did. The
car sped up noticeably just as it passed the vets.
Others in the crowd noticed, too. Not all of them were charmed.
A few scattered boos from the bleachers behind them.
A couple of stocky fellows in cowboy hats stormed up.
"You have to honor the dead," one of the cowboy hats called out.
"Those dead were our friends," Alex told him, soft but direct. "This
is personal for us."
The man didn't seem to know who he'd been taunting. "Oh, OK," he said,
before turning and walking off.
"I think it was very symbolic," Alex Ryabov said later, after the
inaugural parade had passed. "A lot of people came here today to see
the president and cheer him and all that stuff. That's OK. But we
thought it was important to say not everybody agrees with that. Some
people think this war is a very bad thing. People who've been there
and know.
"No, Mr. President, we don't support what you are doing. We won't
pretend we do."
Copyright © 2005, Newsday, Inc.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Jan 2005 01:06:11 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:19:09 -0600, "Flint Mitchell" <lisfanpress@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as far as
the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing mention on
one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
The blue jokers were a no show.
duke
In God We Trust
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Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "Ike" |
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21 Jan 2005 06:27:25 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:9kk2v0tr9pl1h8ap23o9sb5l3hf3a96m7i@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:19:09 -0600, "Flint Mitchell"
<lisfanpress@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as far as
the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing mention on
one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
The blue jokers were a no show.
duke
A lot of the protestors were kept far away. However a lot of protestors
braved the extreme cold and did turn their backs on Bush. Due to heavy
security the protests were micro-managed. Some protestors were, I heard on
local news, mistreated at the remote locations they were forced to use.
Could have been worse.
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| User: "jwk" |
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22 Jan 2005 03:20:26 PM |
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Ike wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:9kk2v0tr9pl1h8ap23o9sb5l3hf3a96m7i@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:19:09 -0600, "Flint Mitchell"
<lisfanpress@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as
far as
the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing
mention on
one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
The blue jokers were a no show.
duke
A lot of the protestors were kept far away. However a lot of
protestors
braved the extreme cold and did turn their backs on Bush. Due to
heavy
security the protests were micro-managed. Some protestors were, I
heard on
local news, mistreated at the remote locations they were forced to
use.
Like I said above, ABC showed some of these protesters. They were
corralled way off the parade route, and the police were responding to
thrown snowballs with heavy pepper spray. (Big things that sprayed a
big stream from a good distance off.)
jwk
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| User: "Ike" |
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22 Jan 2005 08:28:21 PM |
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"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ike wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:9kk2v0tr9pl1h8ap23o9sb5l3hf3a96m7i@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:19:09 -0600, "Flint Mitchell"
<lisfanpress@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
I've been looking for news on what happened at the inauguration as
far as
the turn your back on Bush protest. Other than a very passing
mention on
one newscast, there was no mention of it (that I saw) on the news.
Was it a non event, or did I just watch the wrong news show? :)
The blue jokers were a no show.
duke
A lot of the protestors were kept far away. However a lot of
protestors
braved the extreme cold and did turn their backs on Bush. Due to
heavy
security the protests were micro-managed. Some protestors were, I
heard on
local news, mistreated at the remote locations they were forced to
use.
Like I said above, ABC showed some of these protesters. They were
corralled way off the parade route, and the police were responding to
thrown snowballs with heavy pepper spray. (Big things that sprayed a
big stream from a good distance off.)
jwk
WPFW FM radio (Pacifica) reported that pepper spray was sprayed in some
faces.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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21 Jan 2005 09:53:19 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:27:25 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
A lot of the protestors were kept far away. However a lot of protestors
braved the extreme cold and did turn their backs on Bush. Due to heavy
security the protests were micro-managed. Some protestors were, I heard on
local news, mistreated at the remote locations they were forced to use.
Could have been worse.
They could all have been sent to Guantanamo.
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faculties to prove the statement 'dogshit is not peanut butter' if we
gave you a jar of each and a box of crackers" - John Hattan to Tichy
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