Religions > Atheism > UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells
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14 Aug 2007 06:38:25 PM |
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UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
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University of California - Los Angeles
UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem
cells
Neurons will be used to create models of neurological diseases
Scientists with the Institute of Stem Cell Biology and Medicine at UCLA
were able to produce from human embryonic stem cells a highly pure,
large quantity of functioning neurons that will allow them to create
models of and study diseases such as Alzheimer¹s, Parkinson¹s,
prefrontal dementia and schizophrenia.
Researchers previously had been able to produce neurons - the
impulse-conducting cells in the brain and spinal cord - from human
embryonic stem cells. However, the percentage of neurons in the cell
culture was not high and the neurons were difficult to isolate from the
other cells.
UCLA¹s Yi Sun, an associate professor of psychiatry and biobehavioral
sciences, and Howard Hughes Medical Institute investigator Thomas Südhof
at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center were able to
produce 70 to 80 percent of neurons in cell culture. Sun and Südhof also
were able to isolate the neurons and determine that they had a
functional synaptic network, which the neurons use to communicate.
Because they were functional, the neurons can be used to create a
variety of human neurological disease models.
The study results are published today in an early online edition of the
peer-reviewed journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
³Previously, the system to grow and isolate neurons was very messy and
it was unknown whether those neurons were functioning,² Sun said. ³We¹re
excited because we have been able to purify so many more neurons out of
the cell culture and they were, surprisingly, healthy enough to form
synapses. These cells will be excellent for doing gene expression
studies and biochemical and protein analyses.²
Sun¹s method prodded human embryonic stem cells to differentiate into
neural stem cells, the cells that give rise to neurons. When the time
was right, Sun¹s team added protein growth factors into the cell culture
that stopped the neural stem cells from self-renewing and prodded them
into differentiating into neurons. To isolate the cells, Sun and her
team added an enzyme that digests a sort of protein matrix that holds
cells in culture together. The neurons could then be separated from the
neural stem cells that had not yet differentiated, a sort of chemical
round-up that isolated the neurons. The cells were then put into a cell
strainer that allowed passage through of the isolated neurons.
The large number of pure neurons produced will allow Sun and her team to
study their biological form and structure, the genes they express, the
development of synapses and the electric and chemical communication
activities within the synapse network.
³We will be able to study the cellular properties of neurons in a very
defined way that will maybe tell us what goes wrong in diseases such as
Alzheimer¹s and Parkinson¹s,² Sun said. ³We¹re currently creating many
models of human neurological diseases that may provide the answers we¹re
looking for. We don¹t know what causes prefrontal dementia, Huntington¹s
disease or schizophrenia. The key is likely in the quality of neuronal
communications. By studying the chemical and electrical transmissions,
we may be able to determine what goes wrong that leads to these
debilitating diseases and find a way to stop or treat it.²
Sun will be among the first researchers to be able to study true neuron
function.
A second important discovery in Sun¹s study showed that two embryonic
stem cells lines derived in similar manners, and therefore expected to
behave similarly when differentiating, did not. Using the same
techniques to prod the two embryonic stem cells lines to differentiate,
Sun found that one line had a bias to become neurons that are found in
the forebrain. The other line differentiated into neurons found in rear
portions of the brain and spinal cord. The finding was surprising, and
significant, Sun said.
³The realization that not all human embryonic stem cell lines are born
equal is critical,² Sun said. ³If you¹re studying a disease found in a
certain part of the brain, you should use a human embryonic stem cell
line that produces the neurons from that region of the brain to get the
most accurate results from your study. Huntington¹s disease, for
example, is a forebrain disease, so the neurons should be differentiated
from a cell line that is biased to produce neurons from the forebrain.²
Sun said there are ways to prod an embryonic stem cell line biased to
become neurons found in the rear brain to become neurons found in the
forebrain. However, there are limits to how much prodding can be done.
Sun and her team confirmed that the two embryonic stem cell lines were
different through gene expression analysis neurons that perform
different functions in different parts of the brain express different
genes. The cell line prone to becoming neurons found in the forebrain
expressed genes typically found those neurons, while the other line
expressed genes found in the rear brain and spinal cord.
Sun and her team now are studying why the two human embryonic stem cell
lines have biases to become different types of neurons.
³If we knew that, we might be able to tweak or alter whatever is driving
the bias so that limitation in the stem cell line could be bypassed,²
Sun said.
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The Institute for Stem Cell Biology and Medicine was launched in 2005
with a UCLA commitment of $20 million over five years. With more than
150 members, the ISCBM is committed to a multi-disciplinary, integrated
collaboration of scientific, academic, and medical disciplines for the
purpose of understanding adult and human embryonic stem cells. The
institute supports innovation, excellence and the highest ethical
standards focused on stem cell research with the intent of facilitating
basic scientific inquiry directed towards future clinical applications
to treat disease. The institute is a collaboration of the David Geffen
School of Medicine, UCLA¹s Jonsson Cancer Center, the Henry Samueli
School of Engineering and Applied Science and the UCLA College.
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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-08/uoc--usp080707.php
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John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
15 Aug 2007 11:01:13 PM |
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On Aug 14, 4:38 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Since when was the federal government supposed to fund stem cell
research?
Michael
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| User: "johac" |
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15 Aug 2007 11:50:11 PM |
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In article <1187236873.479966.182430@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:38 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Since when was the federal government supposed to fund stem cell
research?
Why not? Most advanced countries support basic research.
Michael
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "TheLetterK" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonicstem cells |
16 Aug 2007 02:24:46 PM |
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johac wrote:
In article <1187236873.479966.182430@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:38 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Since when was the federal government supposed to fund stem cell
research?
Why not? Most advanced countries support basic research.
A lemming probably says much the same thing to itself as it walks off
the cliff. "All the other lemmings are doing it, so what could be so bad?"
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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16 Aug 2007 02:48:21 PM |
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TheLetterK <none@none.net>
johac wrote:
In article <1187236873.479966.182430@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:38 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Since when was the federal government supposed to fund stem cell
research?
Why not? Most advanced countries support basic research.
A lemming probably says much the same thing to itself as it walks off
the cliff. "All the other lemmings are doing it, so what could be so bad?"
Basic research reveals many interesting things. As, for example, that
the myth which says that lemmings engage in suicidal mass marches off the
edges of cliffs, is just that: a myth -- the faked scene in Disney's
1958 movie notwithstanding.
-- cary
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| User: "TheLetterK" |
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16 Aug 2007 09:39:28 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
TheLetterK <none@none.net>
johac wrote:
In article <1187236873.479966.182430@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:38 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Since when was the federal government supposed to fund stem cell
research?
Why not? Most advanced countries support basic research.
A lemming probably says much the same thing to itself as it walks off
the cliff. "All the other lemmings are doing it, so what could be so bad?"
Basic research reveals many interesting things. As, for example, that
the myth which says that lemmings engage in suicidal mass marches off the
edges of cliffs, is just that: a myth -- the faked scene in Disney's
1958 movie notwithstanding.
Metaphors are, after all, never based on myths and common misconceptions.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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16 Aug 2007 10:27:19 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:48:21 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
TheLetterK <none@none.net>
johac wrote:
In article <1187236873.479966.182430@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:38 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Since when was the federal government supposed to fund stem cell
research?
Why not? Most advanced countries support basic research.
A lemming probably says much the same thing to itself as it walks off
the cliff. "All the other lemmings are doing it, so what could be so bad?"
Basic research reveals many interesting things. As, for example, that
the myth which says that lemmings engage in suicidal mass marches off the
edges of cliffs, is just that: a myth -- the faked scene in Disney's
1958 movie notwithstanding.
Most of "K's" reactionary blather is based on pure myth, if not every
tiny bit of it.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
17 Aug 2007 12:35:28 AM |
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In article <lb5ac31k5t7p5ip2nu9mrv0te8p3q5kh3d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:48:21 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
TheLetterK <none@none.net>
johac wrote:
In article <1187236873.479966.182430@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:38 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Since when was the federal government supposed to fund stem cell
research?
Why not? Most advanced countries support basic research.
A lemming probably says much the same thing to itself as it walks off
the cliff. "All the other lemmings are doing it, so what could be so bad?"
Basic research reveals many interesting things. As, for example, that
the myth which says that lemmings engage in suicidal mass marches off the
edges of cliffs, is just that: a myth -- the faked scene in Disney's
1958 movie notwithstanding.
Most of "K's" reactionary blather is based on pure myth, if not every
tiny bit of it.
Just typical Reganite "Gubmint is bad!" thinking.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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17 Aug 2007 03:17:26 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:35:28 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <lb5ac31k5t7p5ip2nu9mrv0te8p3q5kh3d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:48:21 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
TheLetterK <none@none.net>
johac wrote:
In article <1187236873.479966.182430@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:38 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Since when was the federal government supposed to fund stem cell
research?
Why not? Most advanced countries support basic research.
A lemming probably says much the same thing to itself as it walks off
the cliff. "All the other lemmings are doing it, so what could be so bad?"
Basic research reveals many interesting things. As, for example, that
the myth which says that lemmings engage in suicidal mass marches off the
edges of cliffs, is just that: a myth -- the faked scene in Disney's
1958 movie notwithstanding.
Most of "K's" reactionary blather is based on pure myth, if not every
tiny bit of it.
Just typical Reganite "Gubmint is bad!" thinking.
Reaganite.
Kills Rationalman at 1000 yards!
Faster than speeding gossip!
More powerful than Billy Graham!
Able to leap to spurious conclusions in a single bound!
What's that in the sky?
A Turd?
A Plain?
No it's the Letter K!
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| User: "TheLetterK" |
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17 Aug 2007 01:44:45 PM |
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johac wrote:
In article <lb5ac31k5t7p5ip2nu9mrv0te8p3q5kh3d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:48:21 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
TheLetterK <none@none.net>
johac wrote:
In article <1187236873.479966.182430@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:38 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Since when was the federal government supposed to fund stem cell
research?
Why not? Most advanced countries support basic research.
A lemming probably says much the same thing to itself as it walks off
the cliff. "All the other lemmings are doing it, so what could be so bad?"
Basic research reveals many interesting things. As, for example, that
the myth which says that lemmings engage in suicidal mass marches off the
edges of cliffs, is just that: a myth -- the faked scene in Disney's
1958 movie notwithstanding.
Most of "K's" reactionary blather is based on pure myth, if not every
tiny bit of it.
Just typical Reganite "Gubmint is bad!" thinking.
Reaganites support government spending, they just don't support
government spending on social programs. I disagree with all forms of
government spending, and that's the key difference. Reaganites just take
funding from social programs and feed it into "defense" spending. That's
just as wrong, backwards, and unconstitutional as funding social programs.
Theft is wrong, even when the thief is the government.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
17 Aug 2007 11:40:01 PM |
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In article <_%lxi.30122$jH3.8180@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
TheLetterK <none@none.net> wrote:
johac wrote:
In article <lb5ac31k5t7p5ip2nu9mrv0te8p3q5kh3d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:48:21 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
TheLetterK <none@none.net>
johac wrote:
In article <1187236873.479966.182430@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:38 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Since when was the federal government supposed to fund stem cell
research?
Why not? Most advanced countries support basic research.
A lemming probably says much the same thing to itself as it walks off
the cliff. "All the other lemmings are doing it, so what could be so
bad?"
Basic research reveals many interesting things. As, for example, that
the myth which says that lemmings engage in suicidal mass marches off the
edges of cliffs, is just that: a myth -- the faked scene in Disney's
1958 movie notwithstanding.
Most of "K's" reactionary blather is based on pure myth, if not every
tiny bit of it.
Just typical Reganite "Gubmint is bad!" thinking.
Reaganites support government spending, they just don't support
government spending on social programs. I disagree with all forms of
government spending, and that's the key difference. Reaganites just take
funding from social programs and feed it into "defense" spending. That's
just as wrong, backwards, and unconstitutional as funding social programs.
So do you believe in government of, by and for the well to do and screw
everbody else?
Theft is wrong, even when the thief is the government.
No, the government works for the people. The people through their
representatives tell the government on what they wish their tax money
spent. The government needs to relearn these lessons.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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14 Aug 2007 10:01:56 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
15 Aug 2007 12:29:51 AM |
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In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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15 Aug 2007 12:54:24 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
15 Aug 2007 01:54:09 AM |
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In article <p755c35km8r193tohs3kr0cr21lj7550i1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
Dubya: "Ooooooh! Is that a WMD?"
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
15 Aug 2007 02:20:25 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:54:09 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <p755c35km8r193tohs3kr0cr21lj7550i1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
Dubya: "Ooooooh! Is that a WMD?"
Yeah:
Where's My *****?
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15 Aug 2007 11:52:38 PM |
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In article <09a5c35r85k4qrkin30909h3akjph9a0gf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:54:09 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <p755c35km8r193tohs3kr0cr21lj7550i1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
Dubya: "Ooooooh! Is that a WMD?"
Yeah:
Where's My *****?
Dubya couldn't find his with both hands and a road map.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
16 Aug 2007 03:06:54 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:52:38 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <09a5c35r85k4qrkin30909h3akjph9a0gf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:54:09 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <p755c35km8r193tohs3kr0cr21lj7550i1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
Dubya: "Ooooooh! Is that a WMD?"
Yeah:
Where's My *****?
Dubya couldn't find his with both hands and a road map.
It's tied up in chainys.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
16 Aug 2007 05:36:48 PM |
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In article <0c18c359hcq2ftnvpa7qq0qhi6fl2br15t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:52:38 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <09a5c35r85k4qrkin30909h3akjph9a0gf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:54:09 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <p755c35km8r193tohs3kr0cr21lj7550i1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
Dubya: "Ooooooh! Is that a WMD?"
Yeah:
Where's My *****?
Dubya couldn't find his with both hands and a road map.
It's tied up in chainys.
Cheney ties him up? Then they 'play'?
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
19 Aug 2007 09:44:07 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:52:38 -0500, johac wrote
(in article <jhachmann-8865DC.21523815082007@news.giganews.com>):
In article <09a5c35r85k4qrkin30909h3akjph9a0gf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:54:09 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <p755c35km8r193tohs3kr0cr21lj7550i1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
Dubya: "Ooooooh! Is that a WMD?"
Yeah:
Where's My *****?
Dubya couldn't find his with both hands and a road map.
Of course not, it is at an "undisclosed location."
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"We're sorry, the neurons you have reached are temporarily out of service.
Please try your post again later."-Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
15 Aug 2007 07:13:50 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:24 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
And unlike Iraq "nuclear" components have been identified.
Ben
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
15 Aug 2007 08:34:52 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:50 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:24 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
And unlike Iraq "nuclear" components have been identified.
And Bush is NOT hiding neurons on his person.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
15 Aug 2007 11:49:20 PM |
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In article <0da7c39kpljki24hs8utp8h88pl0u1qc7o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:50 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:24 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
And unlike Iraq "nuclear" components have been identified.
And Bush is NOT hiding neurons on his person.
And they proved that the other week when they looked up his butt.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
16 Aug 2007 03:07:51 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:49:20 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <0da7c39kpljki24hs8utp8h88pl0u1qc7o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:50 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:24 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
And unlike Iraq "nuclear" components have been identified.
And Bush is NOT hiding neurons on his person.
And they proved that the other week when they looked up his butt.
Not 3 inches away from his brainstem.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
16 Aug 2007 05:35:55 PM |
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In article <6e18c39ets9hrgnug1lkigdq3g4udhuf94@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:49:20 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <0da7c39kpljki24hs8utp8h88pl0u1qc7o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:50 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:24 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
And unlike Iraq "nuclear" components have been identified.
And Bush is NOT hiding neurons on his person.
And they proved that the other week when they looked up his butt.
Not 3 inches away from his brainstem.
That's where his brain stem is located. And his vocal chords too, since
he's always talking out of his *****.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
16 Aug 2007 10:24:32 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:35:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <6e18c39ets9hrgnug1lkigdq3g4udhuf94@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:49:20 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <0da7c39kpljki24hs8utp8h88pl0u1qc7o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:50 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:24 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
And unlike Iraq "nuclear" components have been identified.
And Bush is NOT hiding neurons on his person.
And they proved that the other week when they looked up his butt.
Not 3 inches away from his brainstem.
That's where his brain stem is located. And his vocal chords too, since
he's always talking out of his *****.
<Shrek>
"Donkey!"
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
17 Aug 2007 12:36:19 AM |
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In article <275ac3d20t4tgeq3upapaf1i8nus5ntg7j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:35:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <6e18c39ets9hrgnug1lkigdq3g4udhuf94@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:49:20 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <0da7c39kpljki24hs8utp8h88pl0u1qc7o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:50 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:24 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without
Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't?
It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
And unlike Iraq "nuclear" components have been identified.
And Bush is NOT hiding neurons on his person.
And they proved that the other week when they looked up his butt.
Not 3 inches away from his brainstem.
That's where his brain stem is located. And his vocal chords too, since
he's always talking out of his *****.
<Shrek>
"Donkey!"
Heh!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
16 Aug 2007 10:30:51 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:52 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:50 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:24 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
And unlike Iraq "nuclear" components have been identified.
And Bush is NOT hiding neurons on his person.
Why should he when he's got the finest puppet wire money can buy?
Ben
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
16 Aug 2007 10:25:34 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:30:51 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:52 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:50 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:24 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
And unlike Iraq "nuclear" components have been identified.
And Bush is NOT hiding neurons on his person.
Why should he when he's got the finest puppet wire money can buy?
Taxpayers money, and Daddy's money at that!
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
15 Aug 2007 10:42:01 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:50 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:24 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:29:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <e4r4c31dom4ag4939jpi1g62ofpm52va6t@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:38:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I wonder how much more we could have done in the US without Bush's
stupid restrictions on stem cell research.
Bush is dead set against functioning neurons.
Dubya: "How come those dumb sciences folks got neurons an I don't? It
ain't fair!"
They could sell it to him as a "Neuron Bomb".
And unlike Iraq "nuclear" components have been identified.
That's "nukular".
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: UCLA scientists produce functioning neurons from human embryonic stem cells |
14 Aug 2007 07:02:55 PM |
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That's ridiculous, they should have started on this over a year ago when they
knew Rove's days were limited.
Ben
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