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23 Nov 2005 03:45:34 PM |
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UK Document Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network |
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
LONDON -- President Bush expressed interest in bombing the
headquarters of the Arabic television network al-Jazeera during a
White House conversation with Prime Minister Tony Blair in April 2004,
a British newspaper reported Tuesday.
The Daily Mirror report was attributed to two anonymous sources
describing a classified document they said contained a transcript of
the two leaders' talk...
In 2003, during the invasion of Iraq, a U.S. missile hit the network's
office in Baghdad, killing a correspondent. U.S. officials called the
incident an accident. In 2001, American bombs exploded in its bureau
in Kabul, Afghanistan. Washington said the targeting officers did not
know that the site was an office of the television service...
A spokesman for Blair's office declined to comment on grounds that the
document is part of a criminal investigation. Two civil servants have
been charged with violating Britain's Official Secrets Act for
allegedly disclosing the document.
According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
The network is based in downtown Doha, the capital of Qatar, a Persian
Gulf state that is closely allied with the United States and has
allowed U.S. forces to base their military headquarters there during
the Iraq war...
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| User: "george" |
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23 Nov 2005 07:24:42 PM |
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All leftist moonbat nonsense.
"bobw" <bobw@noemail.com> wrote in message
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Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
LONDON -- President Bush expressed interest in bombing the
headquarters of the Arabic television network al-Jazeera during a
White House conversation with Prime Minister Tony Blair in April 2004,
a British newspaper reported Tuesday.
The Daily Mirror report was attributed to two anonymous sources
describing a classified document they said contained a transcript of
the two leaders' talk...
In 2003, during the invasion of Iraq, a U.S. missile hit the network's
office in Baghdad, killing a correspondent. U.S. officials called the
incident an accident. In 2001, American bombs exploded in its bureau
in Kabul, Afghanistan. Washington said the targeting officers did not
know that the site was an office of the television service...
A spokesman for Blair's office declined to comment on grounds that the
document is part of a criminal investigation. Two civil servants have
been charged with violating Britain's Official Secrets Act for
allegedly disclosing the document.
According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
The network is based in downtown Doha, the capital of Qatar, a Persian
Gulf state that is closely allied with the United States and has
allowed U.S. forces to base their military headquarters there during
the Iraq war...
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| User: "John Starrett" |
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23 Nov 2005 09:18:11 PM |
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george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
Then why are they threatening papers who publish this under the British
Official Secrets Act?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1123/dailyUpdate.html
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John Starrett
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| User: "george" |
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23 Nov 2005 09:25:39 PM |
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"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
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george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
Then why are they threatening papers who publish this under the British
Official Secrets Act?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1123/dailyUpdate.html
The official secrets act also covers the fabrication of stories that appear
to come from official sources which are designed to defame the government.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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23 Nov 2005 10:53:34 PM |
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"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in
news:dm2mr8$ubl$0@pita.alt.net:
"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
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george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
Then why are they threatening papers who publish this under the British
Official Secrets Act?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1123/dailyUpdate.html
The official secrets act also covers the fabrication of stories that
appear to come from official sources which are designed to defame the
government.
Nonsense.
Klazmon.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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23 Nov 2005 11:43:58 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "george"
<nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> posting the following on Wed, 23 Nov
2005 15:25:39 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
news:tZudnZ1qZojzQRneRVn-hA@nmt.edu...
george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
Then why are they threatening papers who publish this under the British
Official Secrets Act?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1123/dailyUpdate.html
The official secrets act also covers the fabrication of stories that appear
to come from official sources which are designed to defame the government.
Funny, but reading the actual Act doesn't support that claim. Care to
provide a citation that backs you up?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "MikeC" |
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25 Nov 2005 08:00:35 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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What's so funny about peace, love and "george"
<nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> posting the following on Wed, 23 Nov
2005 15:25:39 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
news:tZudnZ1qZojzQRneRVn-hA@nmt.edu...
george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
Then why are they threatening papers who publish this under the British
Official Secrets Act?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1123/dailyUpdate.html
The official secrets act also covers the fabrication of stories that
appear
to come from official sources which are designed to defame the government.
Funny, but reading the actual Act doesn't support that claim. Care to
provide a citation that backs you up?
He could provide his *****, which is where he pulled that from.
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23 Nov 2005 09:44:13 PM |
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george wrote:
"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
news:tZudnZ1qZojzQRneRVn-hA@nmt.edu...
george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
Then why are they threatening papers who publish this under the British
Official Secrets Act?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1123/dailyUpdate.html
The official secrets act also covers the fabrication of stories that appear
to come from official sources which are designed to defame the government.
Thanks.
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John Starrett
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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23 Nov 2005 11:32:14 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:44:13 -0700 in alt.atheism, John Starrett
(John Starrett <jstarret@sdc.org>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
george wrote:
"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
news:tZudnZ1qZojzQRneRVn-hA@nmt.edu...
george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
Then why are they threatening papers who publish this under the British
Official Secrets Act?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1123/dailyUpdate.html
The official secrets act also covers the fabrication of stories that appear
to come from official sources which are designed to defame the government.
Thanks.
He's full of bollocks of course. You can see for yourself at:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1989/Ukpga_19890006_en_1.htm
Interestingly, HM government will have to prove that the material
revealed by the men in question was "seriously harmful to national
security" - i.e. not simply embarrassing to Tony and the government.
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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24 Nov 2005 02:46:57 AM |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:32:14 +0000, in alt.atheism
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
<onu9o1l4mdfk28md72qfgmhatscjot0s8o@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:44:13 -0700 in alt.atheism, John Starrett
(John Starrett <jstarret@sdc.org>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
george wrote:
"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
news:tZudnZ1qZojzQRneRVn-hA@nmt.edu...
george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
Then why are they threatening papers who publish this under the British
Official Secrets Act?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1123/dailyUpdate.html
The official secrets act also covers the fabrication of stories that appear
to come from official sources which are designed to defame the government.
Thanks.
He's full of bollocks of course. You can see for yourself at:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1989/Ukpga_19890006_en_1.htm
Interestingly, HM government will have to prove that the material
revealed by the men in question was "seriously harmful to national
security" - i.e. not simply embarrassing to Tony and the government.
I wish it were a crime in the USA to classify any document that does not
need to be classified for reasons of true national security. Fraudulent
classification should cost the classifier their job, their pension and
one year per incident.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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24 Nov 2005 07:05:36 AM |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:46:57 -0600 in alt.atheism, David Jensen
(David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:32:14 +0000, in alt.atheism
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
<onu9o1l4mdfk28md72qfgmhatscjot0s8o@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:44:13 -0700 in alt.atheism, John Starrett
(John Starrett <jstarret@sdc.org>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
george wrote:
"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
news:tZudnZ1qZojzQRneRVn-hA@nmt.edu...
george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
Then why are they threatening papers who publish this under the British
Official Secrets Act?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1123/dailyUpdate.html
The official secrets act also covers the fabrication of stories that appear
to come from official sources which are designed to defame the government.
Thanks.
He's full of bollocks of course. You can see for yourself at:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1989/Ukpga_19890006_en_1.htm
Interestingly, HM government will have to prove that the material
revealed by the men in question was "seriously harmful to national
security" - i.e. not simply embarrassing to Tony and the government.
I wish it were a crime in the USA to classify any document that does not
need to be classified for reasons of true national security. Fraudulent
classification should cost the classifier their job, their pension and
one year per incident.
Section 2 of the OSA was replaced in 1989 but a better thought out bit
of legislation: prior to that theoretically a park keeper could get 30
years for revealing how many daffodils were planted in the local part,
or similar information!
How does it go.... (from "Yes Minister")
I confidentially brief
you leak
he gets 5 years under section 2 of the OSA...
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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23 Nov 2005 08:27:51 PM |
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george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
No, Bush moonbat, rabid, murderous nonsense.
The man is a vicious, stupid *****.
That's why you love him, right.
Lies us into a war,doesn't know how
to fight it, and was considering murder.
And he pretends he's a christian.
Somehow, you think calling people who do not
want to ignore this bizarre, evil, outrageous,
unacceptable plan of bush's names makes it all go
away.
It doesn't.
There are two kinds of people, people who
dislike this sort of murder, and assholes
like you, that do not care.
Calling people who care names tells us a
lot about you.
Bush was contemplating cold blooded murder here
for political reasons. The man is evil.
"bobw" <bobw@noemail.com> wrote in message
news:tj39o1l8nbug7vsa4hdgu154bg1n6pha81@4ax.com...
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
LONDON -- President Bush expressed interest in bombing the
headquarters of the Arabic television network al-Jazeera during a
White House conversation with Prime Minister Tony Blair in April
2004, a British newspaper reported Tuesday.
The Daily Mirror report was attributed to two anonymous sources
describing a classified document they said contained a transcript
of the two leaders' talk...
In 2003, during the invasion of Iraq, a U.S. missile hit the
network's office in Baghdad, killing a correspondent. U.S.
officials called the incident an accident. In 2001, American bombs
exploded in its bureau in Kabul, Afghanistan. Washington said the
targeting officers did not know that the site was an office of the
television service...
A spokesman for Blair's office declined to comment on grounds that
the document is part of a criminal investigation. Two civil
servants have been charged with violating Britain's Official
Secrets Act for allegedly disclosing the document.
According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was
also quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do --
and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
The network is based in downtown Doha, the capital of Qatar, a
Persian Gulf state that is closely allied with the United States
and has allowed U.S. forces to base their military headquarters
there during the Iraq war...
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An Englishman who was wrecked on a strange shore and
wandering along the coast . . . came to a gallows
with a victim hanging on it, and fell down on his
knees and thanked God that he at last beheld a sign
of civilization.
--James A. Garfield (1831-1881)
(House of Representatives speech, June 15, 1870)
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "george" |
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23 Nov 2005 08:47:25 PM |
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"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
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george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
No, Bush moonbat, rabid, murderous nonsense.
Prove that ANY of it is true, moonbat.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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23 Nov 2005 10:43:38 PM |
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george wrote:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11o9k6sa8p6h742@corp.supernews.com...
george wrote:
All leftist moonbat nonsense.
No, Bush moonbat, rabid, murderous nonsense.
Prove that ANY of it is true, moonbat.
The transcripts have been released. There are two witnesses
that these are the real deal.
The Brits are using their official secret acts law against
the british civil serrvbvant that released this publically.
Its the real deal. Your pathetic whimpering is just inane,
anile and stupid.
Prove its not all a mistake, liar.
Bush wanted to bomb al Jareel in Qatar. He was begging
somebody to tell him it was a great idea. Blair was not
that man.
The US has bombed Jazreel's headquarters in Bagdad and in
Afghanistan. The US already has a record here of murder.
*****, lying right winger!
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An Englishman who was wrecked on a strange shore and
wandering along the coast . . . came to a gallows
with a victim hanging on it, and fell down on his
knees and thanked God that he at last beheld a sign
of civilization.
--James A. Garfield (1831-1881)
(House of Representatives speech, June 15, 1870)
Cheerful Charlie
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24 Nov 2005 09:09:22 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:45:34 -0600, bobw <bobw@noemail.com> wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
LONDON -- President Bush expressed interest in bombing the
headquarters of the Arabic television network al-Jazeera during a
White House conversation with Prime Minister Tony Blair in April 2004,
a British newspaper reported Tuesday.
The Daily Mirror report was attributed to two anonymous sources
describing a classified document they said contained a transcript of
the two leaders' talk...
In 2003, during the invasion of Iraq, a U.S. missile hit the network's
office in Baghdad, killing a correspondent. U.S. officials called the
incident an accident. In 2001, American bombs exploded in its bureau
in Kabul, Afghanistan. Washington said the targeting officers did not
know that the site was an office of the television service...
A spokesman for Blair's office declined to comment on grounds that the
document is part of a criminal investigation. Two civil servants have
been charged with violating Britain's Official Secrets Act for
allegedly disclosing the document.
According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
The network is based in downtown Doha, the capital of Qatar, a Persian
Gulf state that is closely allied with the United States and has
allowed U.S. forces to base their military headquarters there during
the Iraq war...
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23 Nov 2005 05:04:52 PM |
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bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
....> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come the
clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
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| User: "george" |
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23 Nov 2005 07:25:15 PM |
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"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come the
clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense and a
lie.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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23 Nov 2005 08:13:49 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:25:15 -0600 in alt.atheism, george ("george"
<nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come the
clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense and a
lie.
Which is presumably why David Keogh and Tony Clarke have been charged
under the official secrets act, and the Mirror was threatened with an
injunction by Attorney General Lord Goldsmith. That's the best way to
stop nonsense, after all....
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23 Nov 2005 08:00:50 PM |
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TV's george wrote:
"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
news:Ui1hf.1258$A23.227@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come the
clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense and a
lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
--
aa #2133
ap #19
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23 Nov 2005 08:30:18 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JbCdnRjBGaUUVxneRVn-gA@centurytel.net...
TV's george wrote:
"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
news:Ui1hf.1258$A23.227@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come the
clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense and a
lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and threatened
with an injunction.
In the UK, the press can't lie about this stuff and get away with it as the
press does in the USA.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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23 Nov 2005 09:34:43 PM |
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"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in
news:dm2jj6$h42$0@pita.alt.net:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JbCdnRjBGaUUVxneRVn-gA@centurytel.net...
TV's george wrote:
"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
news:Ui1hf.1258$A23.227@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come
the clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense
and a lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and
threatened with an injunction.
That almost certainly means the allegations are correct. The official
secrets act is used to stop information getting out that would prove
embarrasing to the government. They are not saying that the document is
fake, they are saying that the document should not be disclosed.
Klazmon.
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23 Nov 2005 11:19:42 PM |
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On 24 Nov 2005 10:34:43 +1300 in alt.atheism, Llanzlan Klazmon
(Llanzlan Klazmon <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt>) said, directing the
reply to alt.atheism
"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in
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bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come
the clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense
and a lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and
threatened with an injunction.
That almost certainly means the allegations are correct. The official
secrets act is used to stop information getting out that would prove
embarrasing to the government. They are not saying that the document is
fake, they are saying that the document should not be disclosed.
The OSA is supposed to be used to protect state secrets relevant to
national security, *not* to protect the government from embarrassment.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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| Title: Re: UK Document Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network |
24 Nov 2005 12:13:35 AM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
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On 24 Nov 2005 10:34:43 +1300 in alt.atheism, Llanzlan Klazmon
(Llanzlan Klazmon <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt>) said, directing the
reply to alt.atheism
"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in
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TV's george wrote:
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bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told
Bush that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was
also quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do --
and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come
the clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense
and a lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and
threatened with an injunction.
That almost certainly means the allegations are correct. The official
secrets act is used to stop information getting out that would prove
embarrasing to the government. They are not saying that the document is
fake, they are saying that the document should not be disclosed.
The OSA is supposed to be used to protect state secrets relevant to
national security, *not* to protect the government from embarrassment.
In practice "National security" is often a euphemism for "protect the
government from embarrassment".
Klazmon.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: UK Document Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network |
24 Nov 2005 06:54:40 AM |
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On 24 Nov 2005 13:13:35 +1300 in alt.atheism, Llanzlan Klazmon
(Llanzlan Klazmon <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt>) said, directing the
reply to alt.atheism
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
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On 24 Nov 2005 10:34:43 +1300 in alt.atheism, Llanzlan Klazmon
(Llanzlan Klazmon <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt>) said, directing the
reply to alt.atheism
"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in
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TV's george wrote:
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bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told
Bush that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was
also quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do --
and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come
the clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense
and a lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and
threatened with an injunction.
That almost certainly means the allegations are correct. The official
secrets act is used to stop information getting out that would prove
embarrasing to the government. They are not saying that the document is
fake, they are saying that the document should not be disclosed.
The OSA is supposed to be used to protect state secrets relevant to
national security, *not* to protect the government from embarrassment.
In practice "National security" is often a euphemism for "protect the
government from embarrassment".
Fortunately that ultimately depends on how the jury, and/or the judge
is feeling!
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
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| User: "dave" |
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24 Nov 2005 03:04:33 AM |
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"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in message
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TV's george wrote:
"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come the
clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense and
a
lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and
threatened with an injunction.
In the UK, the press can't lie about this stuff and get away with it as
the press does in the USA.
What? The UK press can't lie? Where did the wrtier get that idea? I
believe last year the BBC almost lost it's license because of false
reporting. But of course, the report supports the writer's belief and,
therefore, must be creditable. Oh and yes, the British press supports Bush
so if they report negative stories about Bush it must be true. Makes sense
to me. Why do I believe that the writer would discredit a positive article
about Bush published by the UK press? Must be my mistake...
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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| Title: Re: UK Document Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network |
24 Nov 2005 12:38:36 AM |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:30:18 -0600, in alt.atheism
"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TV's george wrote:
"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come the
clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense and a
lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and threatened
with an injunction.
In the UK, the press can't lie about this stuff and get away with it as the
press does in the USA.
If they're charged under the Official Secrets Act, it's because it isn't
a lie.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: UK Document Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network |
23 Nov 2005 11:40:42 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "george"
<nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> posting the following on Wed, 23 Nov
2005 14:30:18 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and threatened
with an injunction.
Which shows that the story is accurate. After all, what official
secrets would be involved in a falsification?
In the UK, the press can't lie about this stuff and get away with it as the
press does in the USA.
They're not being accused of lying, but of revealing a classified
document - the memo regarding Bush wanting to bomb the station.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "John Starrett" |
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| Title: Re: UK Document Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network |
23 Nov 2005 09:21:18 PM |
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george wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JbCdnRjBGaUUVxneRVn-gA@centurytel.net...
TV's george wrote:
"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
news:Ui1hf.1258$A23.227@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come the
clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense and a
lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and threatened
with an injunction.
In the UK, the press can't lie about this stuff and get away with it as the
press does in the USA.
In other words, it is true. If they just made it up, then they wouldn't
be charged with revealing it.
--
John Starrett
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| User: "george" |
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23 Nov 2005 09:22:44 PM |
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"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
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george wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JbCdnRjBGaUUVxneRVn-gA@centurytel.net...
TV's george wrote:
"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
news:Ui1hf.1258$A23.227@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come the
clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense and
a
lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and
threatened with an injunction.
In the UK, the press can't lie about this stuff and get away with it as
the press does in the USA.
In other words, it is true. If they just made it up, then they wouldn't be
charged with revealing it.
They're being investigated for defaming the British government with this
false story.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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| Title: Re: UK Document Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network |
23 Nov 2005 10:52:27 PM |
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"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in
news:dm2mll$tnp$0@pita.alt.net:
"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
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george wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JbCdnRjBGaUUVxneRVn-gA@centurytel.net...
TV's george wrote:
"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
news:Ui1hf.1258$A23.227@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and
no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come
the clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense
and a
lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and
threatened with an injunction.
In the UK, the press can't lie about this stuff and get away with it
as the press does in the USA.
In other words, it is true. If they just made it up, then they wouldn't
be charged with revealing it.
They're being investigated for defaming the British government with this
false story.
The charge is for leaking official information under the official secrets
act.
Klazmon.
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| User: "towelie" |
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23 Nov 2005 09:27:47 PM |
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TV's george wrote:
"John Starrett" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
news:tZudnZ9qZoi1QBneRVn-hA@nmt.edu...
george wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JbCdnRjBGaUUVxneRVn-gA@centurytel.net...
TV's george wrote:
"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
news:Ui1hf.1258$A23.227@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
bobw wrote:
Paper Says Bush Talked of Bombing Arab TV Network
By Kevin Sullivan and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, November 23, 2005; Page A14
...> According to a source quoted in the Daily Mail, Blair told Bush
that
bombing al-Jazeera "would cause a big problem." The source was also
quoted as saying: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do -- and no
doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."
Strange that we need foreigners to give bush good advice. How come
the clowns in bush's admin couldn't figure this out.
Because, moonbat, it never happened. The story is moonbat nonsense
and a
lie.
Prove it's a lie, reichtard.
The authors have been charged under the official secrets act and
threatened with an injunction.
In the UK, the press can't lie about this stuff and get away with it as
the press does in the USA.
In other words, it is true. If they just made it up, then they wouldn't
be charged with revealing it.
They're being investigated for defaming the British government with this
false story.
No, they're being investigated for leaking official government secrets. If
they were being investigated for defamation, they would be charged for that,
not a crime that makes the UK government look worse than if it were a
defamation case.
--
aa #2133
ap #19
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