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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Michael Gray"
Date: 06 May 2007 06:11:16 PM
Object: Unholy row at clergy soccer game
Unholy row at clergy soccer game
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6628929.stm
"A friendship-building football match between Muslim and Christian
clergy in Norway was called off after a row over the participation of
women players.
Muslim Imams had refused to play against women because it went against
their beliefs about close physical contact with the opposite sex.
But when the church decided to drop its women players, the priests'
team captain walked out in protest.
The game was meant to be an enjoyable end to a day-long conference in
Oslo.
Members of the two faiths had been discussing ways of encouraging
greater inter-faith dialogue at the "Shoulder to Shoulder" event.
'Wrong interpretation'
Church of Norway spokesman Olav Fykse Tveit said they had learnt of
the imams' objections over the match two days before Saturday's
conference.
"But because we thought it would be a nice conclusion of the
conference we didn't want to call it off, so we decided to stage an
all-men's team game instead," he said.
The decision outraged the women players in the Christian team, and
prompted the captain to resign.
Just hours before the match, the church released a statement saying it
had been called off.
"We realise now that it will be wrong to have a priest team without
women," the statement said.
"The reactions we have had today shows us that this is being
interpreted as a gender-political issue. This is why we cannot go
through with the soccer match."
Mr Fykse Tveit said the outcome had not been solely negative.
"Both sides have learned to better understand our cultures and we have
had an open discussion."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6628929.stm
Published: 2007/05/05 19:11:13 GMT
© BBC MMVII
.

User: "Codebreaker"

Title: Re: Unholy row at clergy soccer game 06 May 2007 06:34:36 PM
On May 6, 7:11 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

Unholy row at clergy soccer game

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6628929.stm

"A friendship-building football match between Muslim and Christian
clergy in Norway was called off after a row over the participation of
women players.

Muslim Imams had refused to play against women because it went against
their beliefs about close physical contact with the opposite sex.

But when the church decided to drop its women players, the priests'
team captain walked out in protest.

The game was meant to be an enjoyable end to a day-long conference in
Oslo.

Members of the two faiths had been discussing ways of encouraging
greater inter-faith dialogue at the "Shoulder to Shoulder" event.

'Wrong interpretation'

Church of Norway spokesman Olav Fykse Tveit said they had learnt of
the imams' objections over the match two days before Saturday's
conference.

"But because we thought it would be a nice conclusion of the
conference we didn't want to call it off, so we decided to stage an
all-men's team game instead," he said.

The decision outraged the women players in the Christian team, and
prompted the captain to resign.

Just hours before the match, the church released a statement saying it
had been called off.

"We realise now that it will be wrong to have a priest team without
women," the statement said.

"The reactions we have had today shows us that this is being
interpreted as a gender-political issue. This is why we cannot go
through with the soccer match."

Mr Fykse Tveit said the outcome had not been solely negative.

"Both sides have learned to better understand our cultures and we have
had an open discussion."

Story from BBC NEWS:http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6628929.=

stm


Published: 2007/05/05 19:11:13 GMT

=A9 BBC MMVII

On May 6, 7:11 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

Unholy row at clergy soccer game

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6628929.stm

"A friendship-building football match between Muslim and Christian
clergy in Norway was called off after a row over the participation of
women players.

Muslim Imams had refused to play against women because it went against
their beliefs about close physical contact with the opposite sex.

But when the church decided to drop its women players, the priests'
team captain walked out in protest.

The game was meant to be an enjoyable end to a day-long conference in
Oslo.

Members of the two faiths had been discussing ways of encouraging
greater inter-faith dialogue at the "Shoulder to Shoulder" event.

'Wrong interpretation'

Church of Norway spokesman Olav Fykse Tveit said they had learnt of
the imams' objections over the match two days before Saturday's
conference.

"But because we thought it would be a nice conclusion of the
conference we didn't want to call it off, so we decided to stage an
all-men's team game instead," he said.

The decision outraged the women players in the Christian team, and
prompted the captain to resign.

Just hours before the match, the church released a statement saying it
had been called off.

"We realise now that it will be wrong to have a priest team without
women," the statement said.

"The reactions we have had today shows us that this is being
interpreted as a gender-political issue. This is why we cannot go
through with the soccer match."

Mr Fykse Tveit said the outcome had not been solely negative.

"Both sides have learned to better understand our cultures and we have
had an open discussion."

Story from BBC NEWS:http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6628929.=

stm


Published: 2007/05/05 19:11:13 GMT

=A9 BBC MMVII

Why do westen Intelligensia and Society at large equates
women issues with Modernity.
They can't even sell a car without a naked woman in the Photo,and
for them this is viewed as being modern.
They want to sell Israel to the World, they made the girls
drop their skirts on the beach.
Why is nudism associated with Modernity.
Since the Medieval time, Islam has always tried to salvage
Christianity by cleaning it up from westen secularism
.
User: "Woden"

Title: Re: Unholy row at clergy soccer game 06 May 2007 08:55:47 PM
Codebreaker <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in
news:1178494476.263082.148360@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

On May 6, 7:11 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

Unholy row at clergy soccer game

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6628929.stm

"A friendship-building football match between Muslim and Christian
clergy in Norway was called off after a row over the participation of
women players.

Muslim Imams had refused to play against women because it went
against their beliefs about close physical contact with the opposite
sex.

But when the church decided to drop its women players, the priests'
team captain walked out in protest.

The game was meant to be an enjoyable end to a day-long conference in
Oslo.

Members of the two faiths had been discussing ways of encouraging
greater inter-faith dialogue at the "Shoulder to Shoulder" event.

'Wrong interpretation'

Church of Norway spokesman Olav Fykse Tveit said they had learnt of
the imams' objections over the match two days before Saturday's
conference.

"But because we thought it would be a nice conclusion of the
conference we didn't want to call it off, so we decided to stage an
all-men's team game instead," he said.

The decision outraged the women players in the Christian team, and
prompted the captain to resign.

Just hours before the match, the church released a statement saying
it had been called off.

"We realise now that it will be wrong to have a priest team without
women," the statement said.

"The reactions we have had today shows us that this is being
interpreted as a gender-political issue. This is why we cannot go
through with the soccer match."

Mr Fykse Tveit said the outcome had not been solely negative.

"Both sides have learned to better understand our cultures and we
have had an open discussion."

Story from BBC
NEWS:http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6628929.

stm


Published: 2007/05/05 19:11:13 GMT

© BBC MMVII


On May 6, 7:11 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

Unholy row at clergy soccer game

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6628929.stm

"A friendship-building football match between Muslim and Christian
clergy in Norway was called off after a row over the participation of
women players.

Muslim Imams had refused to play against women because it went
against their beliefs about close physical contact with the opposite
sex.

But when the church decided to drop its women players, the priests'
team captain walked out in protest.

The game was meant to be an enjoyable end to a day-long conference in
Oslo.

Members of the two faiths had been discussing ways of encouraging
greater inter-faith dialogue at the "Shoulder to Shoulder" event.

'Wrong interpretation'

Church of Norway spokesman Olav Fykse Tveit said they had learnt of
the imams' objections over the match two days before Saturday's
conference.

"But because we thought it would be a nice conclusion of the
conference we didn't want to call it off, so we decided to stage an
all-men's team game instead," he said.

The decision outraged the women players in the Christian team, and
prompted the captain to resign.

Just hours before the match, the church released a statement saying
it had been called off.

"We realise now that it will be wrong to have a priest team without
women," the statement said.

"The reactions we have had today shows us that this is being
interpreted as a gender-political issue. This is why we cannot go
through with the soccer match."

Mr Fykse Tveit said the outcome had not been solely negative.

"Both sides have learned to better understand our cultures and we
have had an open discussion."

Story from BBC
NEWS:http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6628929.

stm


Published: 2007/05/05 19:11:13 GMT

© BBC MMVII


Why do westen Intelligensia and Society at large equates
women issues with Modernity.
They can't even sell a car without a naked woman in the Photo,and
for them this is viewed as being modern.
They want to sell Israel to the World, they made the girls
drop their skirts on the beach.
Why is nudism associated with Modernity.

Since the Medieval time, Islam has always tried to salvage
Christianity by cleaning it up from westen secularism



If you feel that way, why don't you move to a muslim country and live in
a system based on that sort of belief? The taliban was good at that.
Those of us who prefer individual freedom wouldn't miss you in the least.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.
User: "Codebreaker"

Title: Re: Unholy row at clergy soccer game 07 May 2007 03:14:12 PM
On May 6, 9:55 pm, Woden <w...@charter.net> wrote:

Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote innews:1178494476.263082.14=

8360@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:






On May 6, 7:11 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

Unholy row at clergy soccer game


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6628929.stm


"A friendship-building football match between Muslim and Christian
clergy in Norway was called off after a row over the participation of
women players.


Muslim Imams had refused to play against women because it went
against their beliefs about close physical contact with the opposite
sex.


But when the church decided to drop its women players, the priests'
team captain walked out in protest.


The game was meant to be an enjoyable end to a day-long conference in
Oslo.


Members of the two faiths had been discussing ways of encouraging
greater inter-faith dialogue at the "Shoulder to Shoulder" event.


'Wrong interpretation'


Church of Norway spokesman Olav Fykse Tveit said they had learnt of
the imams' objections over the match two days before Saturday's
conference.


"But because we thought it would be a nice conclusion of the
conference we didn't want to call it off, so we decided to stage an
all-men's team game instead," he said.


The decision outraged the women players in the Christian team, and
prompted the captain to resign.


Just hours before the match, the church released a statement saying
it had been called off.


"We realise now that it will be wrong to have a priest team without
women," the statement said.


"The reactions we have had today shows us that this is being
interpreted as a gender-political issue. This is why we cannot go
through with the soccer match."


Mr Fykse Tveit said the outcome had not been solely negative.


"Both sides have learned to better understand our cultures and we
have had an open discussion."


Story from BBC
NEWS:http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6628929.

stm


Published: 2007/05/05 19:11:13 GMT


=A9 BBC MMVII


On May 6, 7:11 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

Unholy row at clergy soccer game


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6628929.stm


"A friendship-building football match between Muslim and Christian
clergy in Norway was called off after a row over the participation of
women players.


Muslim Imams had refused to play against women because it went
against their beliefs about close physical contact with the opposite
sex.


But when the church decided to drop its women players, the priests'
team captain walked out in protest.


The game was meant to be an enjoyable end to a day-long conference in
Oslo.


Members of the two faiths had been discussing ways of encouraging
greater inter-faith dialogue at the "Shoulder to Shoulder" event.


'Wrong interpretation'


Church of Norway spokesman Olav Fykse Tveit said they had learnt of
the imams' objections over the match two days before Saturday's
conference.


"But because we thought it would be a nice conclusion of the
conference we didn't want to call it off, so we decided to stage an
all-men's team game instead," he said.


The decision outraged the women players in the Christian team, and
prompted the captain to resign.


Just hours before the match, the church released a statement saying
it had been called off.


"We realise now that it will be wrong to have a priest team without
women," the statement said.


"The reactions we have had today shows us that this is being
interpreted as a gender-political issue. This is why we cannot go
through with the soccer match."


Mr Fykse Tveit said the outcome had not been solely negative.


"Both sides have learned to better understand our cultures and we
have had an open discussion."


Story from BBC
NEWS:http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6628929.

stm


Published: 2007/05/05 19:11:13 GMT


=A9 BBC MMVII


Why do westen Intelligensia and Society at large equates
women issues with Modernity.
They can't even sell a car without a naked woman in the Photo,and
for them this is viewed as being modern.
They want to sell Israel to the World, they made the girls
drop their skirts on the beach.
Why is nudism associated with Modernity.


Since the Medieval time, Islam has always tried to salvage
Christianity by cleaning it up from westen secularism


If you feel that way, why don't you move to a muslim country and live in
a system based on that sort of belief? The taliban was good at that.
Those of us who prefer individual freedom wouldn't miss you in the least.

--
Woden

"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."- Hide quoted t=

ext -


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What is up loser! I am glad to hear from you again though
you are my enemy. See I am a righteous believer.
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You shall love your enemies and you shall be glad to hear about them
and from them though you wish they met with their fate.
.
User: "Rick"

Title: Re: Unholy row at clergy soccer game 09 May 2007 01:00:30 AM
Codebreaker wrote in message
<1178568852.118591.198560@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>...
On May 6, 9:55 pm, Woden <w...@charter.net> wrote:
[snip]

Why do westen Intelligensia and Society at large equates
women issues with Modernity.
They can't even sell a car without a naked woman in the Photo,and
for them this is viewed as being modern.
They want to sell Israel to the World, they made the girls
drop their skirts on the beach.
Why is nudism associated with Modernity.

Why do you hate naked brown women?

Since the Medieval time, Islam has always tried to salvage
Christianity by cleaning it up from westen secularism


If you feel that way, why don't you move to a muslim country and live in
a system based on that sort of belief?

Better paying jobs in the west?

The taliban was good at that.
Those of us who prefer individual freedom wouldn't miss you in the least.

- Rick
.
User: "Codebreaker"

Title: Re: Unholy row at clergy soccer game 10 May 2007 06:58:35 PM
On May 9, 2:00 am, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:

Codebreaker wrote in message

<1178568852.118591.198...@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>...
On May 6, 9:55 pm, Woden <w...@charter.net> wrote:
[snip]

Why do westen Intelligensia and Society at large equates
women issues with Modernity.
They can't even sell a car without a naked woman in the Photo,and
for them this is viewed as being modern.
They want to sell Israel to the World, they made the girls
drop their skirts on the beach.
Why is nudism associated with Modernity.


Why do you hate naked brown women?

Since the Medieval time, Islam has always tried to salvage
Christianity by cleaning it up from westen secularism


If you feel that way, why don't you move to a muslim country and live in
a system based on that sort of belief?


Better paying jobs in the west?

The taliban was good at that.
Those of us who prefer individual freedom wouldn't miss you in the least.

Jobs without conscience is ruin of the soul


- Rick

.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Unholy row at clergy soccer game 11 May 2007 10:57:00 PM
On 10 May 2007 16:58:35 -0700, Codebreaker <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com>
wrote:

Jobs without conscience is ruin of the soul

I think your accusing our President of having a ruined soul could be
considered treason these days.
.







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