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"J Young" |
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27 Jun 2005 02:16:43 AM |
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US accused over Muslim detentions |
Let me get this straight; there are "civil-rights" groups criticizing
the United States because we detained 70 lowlifes who may have
information about future attacks upon Americans, perhaps saving
thousands, if not millions of lives. The ACLU should go practice their
brand of bullsh*t in Iran or Afghanistan.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4625201.stm
US accused over Muslim detentions
The report says the US detained the men without good reason
The US indefinitely detained some 70 Muslim men after the 11 September
attacks on baseless accusations of terrorist links, US rights bodies
say.
The US Justice Department held the men under a federal law as witnesses
likely to flee, Human Rights Watch and the American Civil Liberties
Union say.
In a new report, the US is criticised for not arresting the men as
criminal suspects, and later releasing many.
The Justice Department says the witness ruling is crucial to
crime-fighting.
The material witness law was designed to allow the detention of
witnesses thought to have information relating to a crime but who might
flee.
Judges were willing to co-operate with FBI calls for detentions in the
weeks and months after 11 September 2001 as authorities attempted both
to investigate the attacks and to prevent fresh strikes.
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| User: "El Conquistador" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 03:51:57 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119838603.725770.54780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Let me get this straight; there are "civil-rights" groups criticizing
the United States because we detained 70 lowlifes
US detained 14,000 muslims for no reason at all, destroyed their family
relationships and subjected them to inhumane treatment, beatings and
torture.
Former MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job
Former MI5 agent David Shayler, who previously blew the whistle on the
British government paying Al Qaeda $200,000 to carry out political
assassinations, has gone on the record with his conviction that 9/11
was an inside job meant to bring about a permanent state of emergency
in America and pave the way for the invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and
ultimately Iran and Syria.
(snip)
Shayler said that his suspicions were first aroused about 9/11 when
the usual route of crime scene investigation was impeded when the
debris was immediately seized and shipped off to China.
"It is in fact a criminal offence to interfere with a crime scene and
yet in the case of 9/11 all the metal from the buildings is shipped
out to China, there are no forensications done on that metal. Now that
to me suggests they never wanted anybody to look at that metal because
it was not going to provide the evidence they wanted to show people
that it was Al-Qaeda."
(snip)
Shayler ended by questioning the highly suspicious nature of the
collapse of the twin towers and Building 7, the first buildings in
history, all in the same day, to collapse from so-called fire damage
alone.
"I've seen the results of terroristic explosions and so on and no
terrorist explosion has ever brought down a building. When the IRA put
something like a thousands tonnes of home-made explosives in front of
the Baltic Exchange building in Bishopsgate and let off the bomb, all
the glass came out, the building shook a bit but there was no question
about the building falling down and it doesn't obey the laws of
physics for buildings to fall down in the way the World Trade Center
came down. So you have the comparison of the two, Building 7 compared
with the north and south towers coming down and those two things are
exactly the same, they were demolished."
David Shayler joins a spate of recent credible whistleblowers who
share the same sentiments about the real story behind 9/11. Former
Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W.
Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds publicly questioned the unexplained
collapse of WTC Building 7 earlier this month. In addition, a former
Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Reagan, Paul Craig
Roberts, shared his concerns last week when he said the Bush
Administration were making the same mistakes as the Nazis when they
invaded Russia in the dead of Winter. Roberts seriously doubts the
official explanation behind 9/11.
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 12:02:25 PM |
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"El Conquistador" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:oIKve.7610$gr.6905@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119838603.725770.54780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Let me get this straight; there are "civil-rights" groups criticizing
the United States because we detained 70 lowlifes
US detained 14,000 muslims for no reason at all, destroyed their family
relationships and subjected them to inhumane treatment, beatings and
torture.
Former MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job
More lies from the King of Lies and Cowardice
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Below is the post that the spineless little coward has ducked for 18 months
now. He hasn't the balls to come close to this
post, and runs every time I make it.
Recent "truths", by Alex Seredin (ak.a. Strider, El Paredon, Saleh El Din,
AmigoCabal, et. al.)
WARNING: Do not drink while reading this
"Mossad created Hamas, Hamas created Hezbollah. Saddam is a Mossad employee,
and so is George Bush!"
"Osama is Great"
"Osama is a Mosad agent"
"Saddam is great"
"Saddam is a Jew"
"Saddam is a butcher"
"Saddam is a hero of Israel. He has never ever done anything to harm Jews!
He started two wars on behalf and behest of Jews!"
"The Holocaust never happened"
"We got 6 million of you in WWII"
"You are an arsehole! Dr. Shahak is a jew, a real Holocaust survivor"
"60 million Russians died in German concentration camps."
"Jews killed JFK because he would not allow them to have nukes!"
"Israel was behind the Sept. 11 attacks"
"Eye Witness Testimony Is Conclusive That North Tower Collapsed From
Controlled Demolition"
"Is that why several hundred (Muslims) of the died anyway (in the WTC)?
"Israel set off a nuke in Bali"
"Jews killed 19 members of my family in Russia"
"Jews killed 19 members of my family in the Ukraine"
"Jews killed 50 members of my family in Germany"
"Jews have killed 10 million Palestinians "
"Jews killed 50 million in Russia"
"Jews killed 80 million in Russia"
"Jews killed 100 million in Russia"
"Who the ***** do you think most Jews are? Krauts of course!"
"Russians were garbage when they were raping Serbian children in 1944,
and murdering half a million Chechens and will remain the piece of dung
wrapped in a cabbage leaf!"
"Russians are genocidists, Serbs are past that stage of decline!"
"Jews put James Traficant in jail for standing up to them."
"THERE ARE ABOUT 700,000 SLAVES IN ISRAEL"
"You are too stupid to understand that millions of people during WWII
comitted suicide out of desperation and fear!"
"There are 700,000 Thai slaves in Israel."
"Every single day Jews kill at least half a dozen Palestinians, mostly
children."
"I was in WWI" - But hasn't the balls to reply to this post
"I was in the Boer War in South Africa" - But hasn't the balls to reply to
this post
"I was in WWII" - But hasn't the balls to reply to this post
"I was in the Autralian RAAF" - But hasn't the balls to reply to this post
"I was in Viet Nam" - But hasn't the balls to reply to this post
"I was in Ubon Cambodia in 1963, when you were being shitted out! " But
hasn't the balls to reply to this post
"Thank you Frank, I am witness of the chetnik participation in the Battle of
Belgrade in 1944"
"I am part Masai"
"I'm a Serbian"
"I'm Canadian"
"I'm Australian"
"I'm an American"
"I'm a direct descendant of Tamerlame"
"I'm a direct descendant of Kublai Khan"
"I like Jews"
"ANY KILLING IS NOT A JOKE EXCEPT FOR A JEW!"
"On April 20th we celebrate the birth of the greatest man of all time:
Adolf Hitler."
"Human? jews are not humans!"
"I am NOT an anti-Semite!!!!!"
"99% of the Jews are Russian ex-communist trash. They must be deported"
"Jews came to America as slave traders and slave keepers."
"ISRAEL NEVER REPAID A SINGLE CENT OF ANY LOAN TO UNITED STATES FOR THE PAST
30 YEARS!"
"ACTUALLY SEVERAL AUSCHWITZES EXIST IN ISRAEL, ONLY THEY ARE FAR MORE BRUTAL
THAN THE ORIGINAL AUSCHWITZ EVER WAS!"
"The sole supplier of arms to palestinians are the jews."
"NO JEWS WILL BE ELECTED IN 2004!!"
"THE ONLY TERRORISTS IN PALESTINE ARE ISRAELIS!"
"Adolf Hitler sent Eichman to Palestine, to encourage the establishment of
Israel."
"Arafat and his government have been adamant in opposing all forms of
violence!"
"After the bible, Mein Kampf was the biggest seller in U.S."
"Only one Jew died in the WTC attacks!!!"
"Anthrax cover up! (Jews did it)"
"Mossad Bombs Paradise Hotel in Mombasa"
"The US is commiting war crimes in Iraq!!!!!"
"I do have a Talmud written in the original Yiddish 19th century!"
"There is no 428 Hemi unless the kike farted into the cylinders, it is 427
arsehole!" (the 427 is a Chevy Block, the 428 Hemi was a Morpar block)
"There is secret version of the Talmud, made in a place called Cracow, that
is for Jews only. When you call Amazon.com and try to order a Talmud, they
will ask you if you are Jewish. If you aren't they won't send it. If you
say you are, they still won't send it. I was taught about it by a rabbi,
who did so after all the Jews left."
"Albert Einstein was a genius and a thief at the same time. he was married
to Mileva Maric, a Serb, who was far gteater
physicist than he ever was"
"I was educated in Prva Muska Gimnazija in Belgrade, moron! And studied
Serbian history in detail. I also visited the Slavija hill with the person
whom Serbia respects Nikola Pasic!" - Nikola Pasic died in 1926, which would
mean Alex is 100 years old.
But the best I saved for last:
"Every single word I have ever said was the truth!"
Oh, we could go on for days, but you get the picture.
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| User: "Razor 616" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 03:59:17 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:51:57 -0400, "El Conquistador"
<serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Former MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job
Sigh... I know the Bush regime is both morally corrupt and corrupt in
other ways as well, but I think we all know that's not true.
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#1295
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| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 11:41:29 PM |
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Speak for yourself...
"Razor 616" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:eg80c197a0j3bqmr6m8aoihhrk5o69pdvh@4ax.com...
: On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:51:57 -0400, "El Conquistador"
: <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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: >Former MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job
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: Sigh... I know the Bush regime is both morally corrupt and corrupt in
: other ways as well, but I think we all know that's not true.
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: #1295
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| User: "Razor 616" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
28 Jun 2005 01:12:20 AM |
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:41:29 +0300, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Speak for yourself...
That's just plain paranoid :-)
--
#1295
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| User: "Bad Wolf" |
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| Title: Re: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
29 Jun 2005 06:15:21 AM |
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In the great debate about "Re: US accused over Muslim detentions" in
alt.atheism, Razor 616 <nobody@nowhere.net> catapaulted the following
boulder:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:41:29 +0300, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Speak for yourself...
That's just plain paranoid :-)
Not entirely. Who set Al Quaeda up in the first place? Who trained Bin
Laden? So if it was Bin Laden, then it sort of was an inside job.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
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| User: "Jeff Welch" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 05:34:45 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119838603.725770.54780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Let me get this straight; there are "civil-rights" groups criticizing
the United States because we detained 70 lowlifes who may have
information about future attacks upon Americans, perhaps saving
thousands, if not millions of lives.
I say YOU are a lowlife, and could have such information.
Here's hoping that the authorities pick up your idiot unAmerican *****,
torture you until you'll confess to anything, and hold you indefinitely
without any hope of release.
EVER.
-Jeff
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| User: "El Conquistador" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
29 Jun 2005 01:38:10 AM |
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"Jeff Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1119850481.e57145319e7bcf3c3963a742f96841f6@meganetnews2...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119838603.725770.54780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Let me get this straight; there are "civil-rights" groups criticizing
the United States because we detained 70 lowlifes who may have
information about future attacks upon Americans, perhaps saving
thousands, if not millions of lives.
I say YOU are a lowlife, and could have such information.
Here's hoping that the authorities pick up your idiot unAmerican *****,
torture you until you'll confess to anything, and hold you indefinitely
without any hope of release.
EVER.
-Jeff
TO TEACH HIM RESPECT FOR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY! RIGHT?
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| User: "WJ20K" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 03:37:34 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Let me get this straight; there are "civil-rights" groups criticizing
the United States because we detained 70 lowlifes who may have
information about future attacks upon Americans, perhaps saving
thousands, if not millions of lives. The ACLU should go practice their
brand of bullsh*t in Iran or Afghanistan.
Another one of those who ONLY listen to what this inept US
administration SAYS rather than what actually happens.
Lowlifes??? Recall that the majority of them have been let go WITHOUT
ANY charges whatsoever. Thus they had NOTHING to do with terrorism.
And you go to call them lowlifes after that???
The Justice department said "only 28 people were charged with offences,
and just seven were charged with providing material support to
terrorist bodies." And what were the offenses? Credit card fraud,
Bank fraud, only 7 (that is 10% - for the mathematically challenged)
had anything even closely resembling to terrorism charges.
And you smear ALL of them as Lowlifes; what a total idiot or a simple
racist. The ACLU is doing just the right thing to protect the
innocent.
[WJ20K]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4625201.stm
US accused over Muslim detentions
The report says the US detained the men without good reason
The US indefinitely detained some 70 Muslim men after the 11 September
attacks on baseless accusations of terrorist links, US rights bodies
say.
The US Justice Department held the men under a federal law as witnesses
likely to flee, Human Rights Watch and the American Civil Liberties
Union say.
In a new report, the US is criticised for not arresting the men as
criminal suspects, and later releasing many.
The Justice Department says the witness ruling is crucial to
crime-fighting.
The material witness law was designed to allow the detention of
witnesses thought to have information relating to a crime but who might
flee.
Judges were willing to co-operate with FBI calls for detentions in the
weeks and months after 11 September 2001 as authorities attempted both
to investigate the attacks and to prevent fresh strikes.
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| User: "Ordog" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 03:17:26 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Let me get this straight; there are "civil-rights" groups criticizing
the United States because we detained 70 lowlifes who may have
information about future attacks upon Americans, perhaps saving
thousands, if not millions of lives. The ACLU should go practice their
brand of bullsh*t in Iran or Afghanistan.
The last I have heard neither Iran nor Afghanistan claimed to be the
best and most advanced democracy as well as the only saviour of true
freedom on this planet.
US accused over Muslim detentions
How does this relate to Atheism?
The report says the US detained the men without good reason
The US indefinitely detained some 70 Muslim men after the 11 September
attacks on baseless accusations of terrorist links, US rights bodies
say.
The US Justice Department held the men under a federal law as witnesses
likely to flee, Human Rights Watch and the American Civil Liberties
Union say.
In a new report, the US is criticised for not arresting the men as
criminal suspects, and later releasing many.
The Justice Department says the witness ruling is crucial to
crime-fighting.
The material witness law was designed to allow the detention of
witnesses thought to have information relating to a crime but who might
flee.
Judges were willing to co-operate with FBI calls for detentions in the
weeks and months after 11 September 2001 as authorities attempted both
to investigate the attacks and to prevent fresh strikes.
What is the point you want to make?
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "Razor 616" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 03:57:42 PM |
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On 26 Jun 2005 20:17:26 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
The last I have heard neither Iran nor Afghanistan claimed to be the
best and most advanced democracy as well as the only saviour of true
freedom on this planet.
So if the US dropped the act, they'd be off the hook? Not buying it,
dude :-)
Instead, these organizations, which live off of criticizing everyone
else, should take a good, long look at themselves and their mission.
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#1295
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| User: "Tak" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 02:55:10 AM |
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On 26 Jun 2005 19:16:43 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Let me get this straight;
tx.politics,seattle.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.atheism,soc.culture.jewish
You really love to troll?
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| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 03:23:33 AM |
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Its not so much he loves it, as it is his LIFE. Rather sad isn't it?
"Tak" <null@null.com> wrote in message
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: On 26 Jun 2005 19:16:43 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
: wrote:
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: >Let me get this straight;
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tx.politics,seattle.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.atheism,soc.culture.jewish
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: You really love to troll?
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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| Title: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
27 Jun 2005 02:15:05 PM |
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Schizophrenic troll "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> AKA
(IBen Getiner) "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119838603.725770.54780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Let me get this straight
Ha! That'll be the day.
LC~ Straight over IBen's head, that is.
"One must wonder why so many Christians like "J Young" are such
dishonest, in-your-face nasty, personal liars. A well as sanctimonious
hypocrites who pretend that this nastiness is "love of neighbour".
From: Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>
Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,soc.culture.jewish,seattle.politics
Subject: Re: Atheists - God Love 'Em
Message-ID: <s47tb15387o5kobdh6j87pjulgflku6bko@4ax.com>
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| User: "Bad Wolf" |
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| Title: Re: Re: US accused over Muslim detentions |
29 Jun 2005 06:21:30 AM |
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In the great debate about "Re: US accused over Muslim detentions" in
alt.atheism, "Loose Cannon" <looseain't@this.com> catapaulted the
following boulder:
"One must wonder why so many Christians like "J Young" are such
dishonest, in-your-face nasty, personal liars. A well as sanctimonious
hypocrites who pretend that this nastiness is "love of neighbour".
From: Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>
No, one mustn't One must accept it as a rule of thumb that it is so.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
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