" \"- Prof Jonez©\"" <jonez@norcom.ca> wrote in message news:<TwU4e.11$cA5.470@news.uswest.net>...

Kenny Leong wrote:

"~ Typhøid Mary ~" <typhoid@mary.va> wrote in message
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For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
April 2, 2005

President Bush Orders Flags Flown at Half Staff in Honor of Pope
John Paul
II
A Proclamation by the President of the United States of America




As a mark of respect for His Holiness Pope John Paul II, I hereby
order, by
the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the
United States
of America, that the flag of the United States shall be flown at
half staff
at the White House and on all public buildings and grounds, at all
military
posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the Federal
Government
in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its
Territories and possessions until sunset on the day of his
interment. I also
direct that the flag shall be flown at half staff for the same
period at all
United States embassies, legations, consular offices, and other
facilities
abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and
stations.

I guess that if he could kick iraq's butt (good on him for that! nice
one and nice work) even though a lot of folks didn't like it, then he
could set the flag anywhere he likes...even at one-quarter up the mast
if he really wanted to...I guess.

Tell it to the 2000 DEAD US soldier who actually did the fighting and
dying you cowardly moron.

Kenny

If you think about it....the 2000 honourable heroes (those US
soldiers) died to save a bundle of people in the future.

If you allow
a fanatic/lunatic to continue with their actions/schemes in secrecy,
without the US etc being allowed to intervene, then they're eventually
going to obtain enough firepower to blow the crap out of you.

So what
do you reckon? Stop the weeds/bugs before they become unstoppable? Or
allow them to gain strength to a point where you could no longer stop
them from causing you a lot of pain in the future? This is called
slashing the grass, and destroying the roots. You could slash the
grass...but the grass will keep growing if you don't destroy the
roots.

So if you think about it....all those stupid protesters that say 'no
war!! peace!!!' and all that crap....they fail to realise that if you
don't stop the REAL lunatics,

then one day - when their neighbours,
friends, family get killed during a massive attack initiated by the
lunatics...the stupid idiots are going to say 'why the hell didn't we
stop them?

....when we could have actually done something?'.

And
actually....while we may stop some of the lunatics today, it may be
too late already....because other lunatic leaders have nuclear and
biological capabilities already.

This is sad, because it's a unstable
bomb situation. So I say ... good on him (bush) for at least trying to
stop whatever he can stop.

The Vatican , and this particular Pope were instrumental in

communism.
No wonder you are pissed.

Jim E

"~ Typhøid Mary ~" <typhoid@mary.va> wrote in message

redc1c4 wrote:

"~ Typhøid Mary ~" wrote:

(snipage occurs)

What a laugh that you'd ***** upon the memory and honor of
those who sacrificed, fought and died for the US flag.

The US Flag bows down for US citizens only, citizens of
honor. The Pope ain't a US citizen, the Vatican never fought
for the freedoms, liberty and constitution of the USA.

The Vatican , and this particular Pope were instrumental in defeating
communism.

No wonder you are pissed.

Jim E

You ***** upon the dignity and honor of all veterans.

good for him for 2 reasons:

1. JP was a good man, who did good things, and the world is a sadder
place with his passing, but for his memory.

2. it pissed your sorry ***** off.

redc1c4,
hth. hand. esad. %-)
Army Officer's Guide

Half-staff flags for pope questioned

00:00 am 4/06/05
Doug Erickson Wisconsin State Journal

A Madison secular organization is protesting Gov. Jim Doyle's order
to fly flags at half-staff at public buildings all week to remember
Pope John Paul
II.

The gesture "appears like an endorsement of Roman Catholicism over
other religious viewpoints," said Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president
of the Freedom
From Religion Foundation.

Gaylor said her organization would have looked the other way if the
order had been for just Friday - the day of the pope's funeral -
instead of all week.

"This seems excessive," she said. "Not everyone in the country is
Roman Catholic, and (the pope's) not even American."

Doyle's executive order, issued Monday, followed President Bush's
similar order from Saturday. The governor's office had received
calls from people wondering if the president's order covered public
buildings in Wisconsin, said Doyle spokeswoman Melanie Fonder.
Doyle's order cleared up any confusion, she said.

Both orders cover only government buildings, not private facilities
or businesses, Fonder said.

Doyle grew up Catholic and attends Queen of Peace Catholic Church in
Madison. His executive order says the pope "was not only an
inspirational spiritual leader but also made a significant impact on
social justice issues

and was a champion of peace."


Fonder said there is no connection between Doyle's personal beliefs
and the
executive order. Numerous other governors of various faiths issued
similar orders, she said.

Federal statutes allow a president to lower flags not only upon the
death of
principal figures of the U.S. government but also upon the death of
"other officials or foreign dignitaries." Given the prominence of
the Vatican in international affairs, the pope certainly falls in
the latter category, Fonder said.

Gaylor said she respects the private mourning of Catholics but
protests state-backed grieving.

The American Humanist Association in Washington, D.C., also opposes
the weeklong lowering of flags, said Tony Hileman, executive
director.

"We have to ask whether this would be done for other cleric - the
Dalai Lama
or Jewish or Muslim leaders."



--
The cautious seldom err.
--Confucius