Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
news:1n2qu053lbqdru8k5q9fg41s0blkvq2em2@4ax.com:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:10:18 +0800, Jim Walsh
<jimwalsh@ms74.hinet.net> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:10:58 -0800, maff thought carefully and

Jim Walsh wrote:

Anyone assisting in the spread of nuclear weapons should be
stopped. If only the US will do so, so be it.

So are you going to attack Chinese nuclear installations

No.

Go to the beginning of this thread to see the context of my words.

I am supporting punishing the 8 Chinese firms (no doubt acting on
behalf of the CCP) who are helping the Iranians obtain nuclear
weapons.

Tell you what, why not set an example and scrap yours, instead of
hiding behind a double standard?

Because we don't trust anybody else to follow that example without
coercion.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.

In article <pan.2005.01.18.13.32.05.397104@ms74.hinet.net>, Jim
Walsh said...

If my memory is correct, I first signed a petition to that effect in
the winter of 1961. (You should not make assumptions about what I
think until you know me better.)

A rogue nation like the U.S., currently bent on increasing its
own nuclear arsenal and demonstrably dedicated to spreading its
hegemony by use of force,

cannot claim leadership (or even
legitimacy) in the push for worldwide nuclear disarmament. U.S.
pressure on other nations to abandon their weapons programs is
deemed -- quite correctly -- not as a move toward nuclear
nonproliferation but as an attempt to weaken any country that
resists the hegemon. It would be as if Hugh Hefner initiated a
crusade against nudity and eroticism, with _Playboy_ excepted.

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:27:48 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:36:57 -0500, Yummy <Popsicle@Icecream.com> said
in alt.atheism:

USA thinks she is immune to nuclear attacks from other Nuclear states.

Except from pre-war Iraq, which could have launched a 'nucular' attack
on the US in 15 minutes.

Kinda difficult to launch what you don't have.

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:13:18 -0800, maff thought carefully and wrote:

Jim Walsh wrote:

To directly answer your question, I don't think the effort to

their spread will cause their use.

But U.S. is the only country to use nuclear weapons on anyone.

Not logically related.

--
Love, Jim

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:13:18 -0800, maff thought carefully and wrote:

Jim Walsh wrote:

To directly answer your question, I don't think the effort to reduce
their spread will cause their use.

But U.S. is the only country to use nuclear weapons on anyone.

Not logically related.

Subject: Re: U.S. Is Punishing 8 Chinese Firms for Aiding Iran
From: Jim Walsh <

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:54:15 +0800, Jim Walsh
<

To directly answer your question, I don't think the effort to reduce
their spread will cause their use.

If the US continues on it's "rogue" path of only adhering to
international law when it is convenient and invading sovereign
countries without due cause such as Iran or North Korea I fear it
will indeed cause their use.

I support the USA involving itself with and cooperating with others to
suppress the spread of nuclear weapons.