Religions > Atheism > Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda
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"Craig Chilton" |
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13 May 2005 01:33:42 AM |
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Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
If he hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propaganda
by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much respect for
human rights and personal liberties as did the National Socialist
party in the 1930s and '40s... he *should* be. Because just like
Goebbels, he spews the cult's hate-propaganda all over the place
like a high-pressure fire hose run amuck. And SELDOM has any-
thing creative of his *own* to say. Just as Goebbels was Hitler's
parrot, so is Rob Wade (ether voluntarily or compensated) acting
as a parrot of the party like of the RRR's oligarchical leadership.
And even if he *were* to include his own opinions, you
can count on their being total garbage, and worth as much
as Goebbels' opinions would have been -- just like the copied
SWILL that he SPAMS all over Usenet... a net-abusing NINE
crossposted (and often irrelevant and off-topic) newsgroups
at a time.
For example... just to post this head's-up about him, it was
necessary to OMIT the 4 least irrelevant ones, so that my ISP
would process it out, Omitted were these groups:
rec.scouting.issues
soc.culture.jewish
ne.general
alt.atheism
A separate copy of this post was sent to them, also to call
their attention to the lengths to which the RRR cult goes...
to be mindless, hateful, and sociopathic toward its targeted
groups of innocent people who have never been deserving
of such abusive treatment. (It will appear twice in the group
I'm posting this from, alt,politics.homosexuality.)
RRR : society :: 5% arsenic solution : glass of drinking water
And "Rob" is one of the Goebbels wanna-bes of the RRR.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
13 May 2005 02:06:47 AM |
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Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> writes:
If he hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propaganda
by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much respect for
human rights and personal liberties as did the National Socialist
party in the 1930s and '40s... he *should* be. Because just like
Goebbels, he spews the cult's hate-propaganda all over the place
like a high-pressure fire hose run amuck.
Please don't compare Rob Wade to Josef Goebbels. Goebbels was a
contemptible rat, but he was a highly competent rat, which is what
made him such a dangerous rat. Rob Wade is more of a lap dog
that barks a lot, but that is too ineffective to do any real
damage.
See <http://www.annefrank.eril.net/teaching/propaganda.htm>, which
states,
In establishing themselves in power the German Nazi party
tried to be very scientific, using the latest technology to
build support for the state. It did this especially through a
cult of personal loyalty to Hitler, the so-called F.AN|hrer, and
to the Vaterland ($B!H(BFatherland$B!I(B or Latin $B!H(BPatria$B!I(B).
Dr. Josef Goebbels was among the most intelligent and
committed of the Nazi leaders. From 1933 to 1945 he was the
Minister for Enlightenment and Propaganda. He was very
sophisticated in his use of psychology to manipulate public
opinion, and opposed some of Hitler's much cruder ideas.
Goebbels didn't spread hate like "a high pressure fire hose run
amuck". If he had run amuck, he would have done far less damage than
he actually did. I think it is important not to underestimate such
people - we don't want a repeat and underestimating the enemy is
a sure way to lose the war.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
13 May 2005 03:54:05 AM |
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On Fri, 13 May 2005 07:06:47 GMT,
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
If he hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propaganda
by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much respect for
human rights and personal liberties as did the National Socialist
party in the 1930s and '40s... he *should* be. Because just like
Goebbels, he spews the cult's hate-propaganda all over the place
like a high-pressure fire hose run amuck.
Please don't compare Rob Wade to Josef Goebbels. Goebbels
was a contemptible rat, but he was a highly competent rat, which
is what made him such a dangerous rat. Rob Wade is more of a
lap dog that barks a lot, but that is too ineffective to do any real
damage.
See <http://www.annefrank.eril.net/teaching/propaganda.htm>,
which states,
In establishing themselves in power the German Nazi party
tried to be very scientific, using the latest technology to
build support for the state. It did this especially through a
cult of personal loyalty to Hitler, the so-called Fuehrer, and
to the Vaterland ("Fatherland" or Latin "Patria")
Dr. Josef Goebbels was among the most intelligent and
committed of the Nazi leaders. From 1933 to 1945 he was the
Minister for Enlightenment and Propaganda. He was very
sophisticated in his use of psychology to manipulate public
opinion, and opposed some of Hitler's much cruder ideas.
Goebbels didn't spread hate like "a high pressure fire hose run
amuck". If he had run amuck, he would have done far less damage
than he actually did. I think it is important not to underestimate such
people - we don't want a repeat and underestimating the enemy is
a sure way to lose the war.
Good points. But lapdogs can be harmful to some extent, too.
And remember that in my previous post, I also said THIS:
RRR : society :: 5% arsenic solution : glass of drinking water
And "Rob" is one of the Goebbels wanna-bes of the RRR.
The "wanna-be" comment aligns with what you said, above.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Scott Hendricks" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
13 May 2005 08:10:38 AM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
If he hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propaganda
by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much respect for
human rights and personal liberties as did the National Socialist
party in the 1930s and '40s... he *should* be.
So in other words he said something that you could not refute so now he
is more evil than the devil himself.
--
What is the modern definition of a racist? anyone winning an argument
with a liberal -- author unknown
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
15 May 2005 01:37:51 AM |
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"Scott Hendricks" <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote in message
news:M8mdnWli6LDUOhnfRVn-3Q@massilloncabletv.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
If he hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propaganda
by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much respect for
human rights and personal liberties as did the National Socialist
party in the 1930s and '40s... he *should* be.
So in other words he said something that you could not refute so now he is
more evil than the devil himself.
No, he has said something that he can't back up with facts, *because* he
wants to be as evil as Goebbels.
Susan
--
What is the modern definition of a racist? anyone winning an argument with
a liberal -- author unknown
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
13 May 2005 08:31:35 AM |
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On Fri, 13 May 2005 09:10:38 -0400,
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <Xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
If he hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propaganda
by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much respect for
human rights and personal liberties as did the National Socialist
party in the 1930s and '40s... he *should* be. ...
So in other words he said something that you could not refute
so now he is more evil than the devil himself.
ROTFL!!!! You present me with **anything** that he's *ever*
SPAMMED in here on either the topics of abortion or access
by gays to across-the-board EQUAL rights, and I will immediately
respond to that tripe with a FACT-based and conclusive refutation.
Are you up to that challenge, or do you just enjoy exercising
your fingers on keyboards and supporting *vacuous* and hateful
agendas?
... Because just like Goebbels, he spews the cult's hate-
propaganda all over the place like a high-pressure fire hose
run amuck. And SELDOM has anything creative of his *own*
to say. Just as Goebbels was Hitler's parrot, so is Rob Wade
(ether voluntarily or compensated) acting as a parrot of the
party like of the RRR's oligarchical leadership.
And even if he *were* to include his own opinions, you
can count on their being total garbage, and worth as much
as Goebbels' opinions would have been -- just like the copied
SWILL that he SPAMS all over Usenet... a net-abusing NINE
crossposted (and often irrelevant and off-topic) newsgroups
at a time.
For example... just to post this head's-up about him, it was
necessary to OMIT the 4 least irrelevant ones, so that my ISP
would process it out, Omitted were these groups:
rec.scouting.issues
soc.culture.jewish
ne.general
alt.atheism
A separate copy of this post was sent to them, also to call
their attention to the lengths to which the RRR cult goes...
to be mindless, hateful, and sociopathic toward its targeted
groups of innocent people who have never been deserving
of such abusive treatment. (It will appear twice in the group
I'm posting this from, alt,politics.homosexuality.)
RRR : society :: 5% arsenic solution : glass of drinking water
And "Rob" is one of the Goebbels wanna-bes of the RRR.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Scott Hendricks" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
13 May 2005 07:48:09 PM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
On Fri, 13 May 2005 09:10:38 -0400,
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <Xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
If he hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propaganda
by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much respect for
human rights and personal liberties as did the National Socialist
party in the 1930s and '40s... he *should* be. ...
So in other words he said something that you could not refute
so now he is more evil than the devil himself.
ROTFL!!!! You present me with **anything** that he's *ever*
SPAMMED in here on either the topics of abortion or access
by gays to across-the-board EQUAL rights, and I will immediately
respond to that tripe with a FACT-based and conclusive refutation.
Are you up to that challenge, or do you just enjoy exercising
your fingers on keyboards and supporting *vacuous* and hateful
agendas?
Oh so now it is up to me to post his past, for you, to sulk over with
hatred and intolerance and project your opinion as to why he is wrong
about something even though you have no real facts to prove he is wrong.
--
What is the modern definition of a racist? anyone winning an argument
with a liberal -- author unknown
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
14 May 2005 08:24:01 AM |
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On Fri, 13 May 2005 20:48:09 -0400,
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
If "Lob Lowe" hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propa
ganda by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much
respect for human rights and personal liberties as did Goebbels,
of the National Socialist Party, in the 1930s and '40s... he *should*
be. ...
So in other words he said something that you could not refute
so now he is more evil than the devil himself.
ROTFL!!!! You present me with **anything** that he's *ever*
SPAMMED in here on either the topics of abortion or access
by gays to across-the-board EQUAL rights, and I will immediately
respond to that tripe with a FACT-based and conclusive refutation.
Are you up to that challenge, or do you just enjoy exercising
your fingers on keyboards and supporting *vacuous* and hateful
agendas?
Oh so now it is up to me to post his past, for you, to sulk over with
hatred and intolerance and project your opinion as to why he is wrong
about something even though you have no real facts to prove he
is wrong.
TRANSLATION: I'm too lazy to attempt to show why you're wrong,
know full well that the homophobic and Anti-
Choice agendas don't have a leg to stand on,
much less ANY relevant FACTS that could
support their loathsome agendas against per-
sonal liberties. And that if I **were** to
cite anything that "Rob" posted for you to
have a go at, you'd make total dog meat out
of it BY employing relevant facts. So this
response is just my way of trying to weasel
out (but I know in my heart that it's SO
lame, and such an obvious LIE, that all I'll
accomplish in this response is to make a
total laughingstock in here. As usual.)
Why didn't you have the guts and integrity simply to say *that* in
the FIRST place?
Oh. Yeah. Because guts and integrity are two qualities NEVER
found in RRR cult lemmings. Or they couldn't *be* RRR cult lemmings.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Scott Hendricks" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
14 May 2005 11:05:28 AM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
On Fri, 13 May 2005 20:48:09 -0400,
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
If "Lob Lowe" hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propa
ganda by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much
respect for human rights and personal liberties as did Goebbels,
of the National Socialist Party, in the 1930s and '40s... he *should*
be. ...
So in other words he said something that you could not refute
so now he is more evil than the devil himself.
ROTFL!!!! You present me with **anything** that he's *ever*
SPAMMED in here on either the topics of abortion or access
by gays to across-the-board EQUAL rights, and I will immediately
respond to that tripe with a FACT-based and conclusive refutation.
Are you up to that challenge, or do you just enjoy exercising
your fingers on keyboards and supporting *vacuous* and hateful
agendas?
Oh so now it is up to me to post his past, for you, to sulk over with
hatred and intolerance and project your opinion as to why he is wrong
about something even though you have no real facts to prove he
is wrong.
TRANSLATION: I'm too lazy to attempt to show why you're wrong,
know full well that the homophobic and Anti-
Choice agendas don't have a leg to stand on,
much less ANY relevant FACTS that could
support their loathsome agendas against per-
sonal liberties. And that if I **were** to
cite anything that "Rob" posted for you to
have a go at, you'd make total dog meat out
of it BY employing relevant facts. So this
response is just my way of trying to weasel
out (but I know in my heart that it's SO
lame, and such an obvious LIE, that all I'll
accomplish in this response is to make a
total laughingstock in here. As usual.)
Why didn't you have the guts and integrity simply to say *that* in
the FIRST place?
Oh. Yeah. Because guts and integrity are two qualities NEVER
found in RRR cult lemmings. Or they couldn't *be* RRR cult lemmings.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
Then that settles it, you can't refute anything he said.
This also goes to show that you are a liar since I don't belong to any
"cult", lying hatemonger.
--
What is the modern definition of a racist? anyone winning an argument
with a liberal -- author unknown
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
14 May 2005 11:21:56 AM |
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On Sat, 14 May 2005 12:05:28 -0400,
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
If "Lob Lowe" hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propa
ganda by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much
respect for human rights and personal liberties as did Goebbels,
of the National Socialist Party, in the 1930s and '40s... he *should*
be. ...
So in other words he said something that you could not refute
so now he is more evil than the devil himself.
ROTFL!!!! You present me with **anything** that he's *ever*
SPAMMED in here on either the topics of abortion or access
by gays to across-the-board EQUAL rights, and I will immediately
respond to that tripe with a FACT-based and conclusive refutation.
Are you up to that challenge, or do you just enjoy exercising
your fingers on keyboards and supporting *vacuous* and hateful
agendas?
Oh so now it is up to me to post his past, for you, to sulk over with
hatred and intolerance and project your opinion as to why he is wrong
about something even though you have no real facts to prove he
is wrong.
TRANSLATION: I'm too lazy to attempt to show why you're wrong,
know full well that the homophobic and Anti-
Choice agendas don't have a leg to stand on,
much less ANY relevant FACTS that could
support their loathsome agendas against per-
sonal liberties. And that if I **were** to
cite anything that "Rob" posted for you to
have a go at, you'd make total dog meat out
of it BY employing relevant facts. So this
response is just my way of trying to weasel
out (but I know in my heart that it's SO
lame, and such an obvious LIE, that all I'll
accomplish in this response is to make a
total laughingstock in here. As usual.)
Why didn't you have the guts and integrity simply to say *that* in
the FIRST place?
Oh. Yeah. Because guts and integrity are two qualities NEVER
found in RRR cult lemmings. Or they couldn't *be* RRR cult
lemmings.
Then that settles it, you can't refute anything he said.
All that's settled is that you're a dishonest dolt. Since you keep
doing such a great job of proving it to everyone.
This also goes to show that you are a liar since I don't belong to
any "cult", lying hatemonger.
The RRR cult is most assuredly a cult, as cults are defined,
even though it has no official name as such (being an oligarchical
confederacy of several bigoted organizations having the very same
loathsome, anti-human-rights, agendas. By subscribing to those
agendas, you ARE a lemming of that very real cult.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Scott Hendricks" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
14 May 2005 11:42:43 AM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2005 12:05:28 -0400,
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
If "Lob Lowe" hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propa
ganda by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much
respect for human rights and personal liberties as did Goebbels,
of the National Socialist Party, in the 1930s and '40s... he *should*
be. ...
So in other words he said something that you could not refute
so now he is more evil than the devil himself.
ROTFL!!!! You present me with **anything** that he's *ever*
SPAMMED in here on either the topics of abortion or access
by gays to across-the-board EQUAL rights, and I will immediately
respond to that tripe with a FACT-based and conclusive refutation.
Are you up to that challenge, or do you just enjoy exercising
your fingers on keyboards and supporting *vacuous* and hateful
agendas?
Oh so now it is up to me to post his past, for you, to sulk over with
hatred and intolerance and project your opinion as to why he is wrong
about something even though you have no real facts to prove he
is wrong.
TRANSLATION: I'm too lazy to attempt to show why you're wrong,
know full well that the homophobic and Anti-
Choice agendas don't have a leg to stand on,
much less ANY relevant FACTS that could
support their loathsome agendas against per-
sonal liberties. And that if I **were** to
cite anything that "Rob" posted for you to
have a go at, you'd make total dog meat out
of it BY employing relevant facts. So this
response is just my way of trying to weasel
out (but I know in my heart that it's SO
lame, and such an obvious LIE, that all I'll
accomplish in this response is to make a
total laughingstock in here. As usual.)
Why didn't you have the guts and integrity simply to say *that* in
the FIRST place?
Oh. Yeah. Because guts and integrity are two qualities NEVER
found in RRR cult lemmings. Or they couldn't *be* RRR cult
lemmings.
Then that settles it, you can't refute anything he said.
All that's settled is that you're a dishonest dolt. Since you keep
doing such a great job of proving it to everyone.
How is that dishonest? I challenged you to refute something and all you
done was pound your fists in a hateful and bigoted temper tantrum and
demanded that I help you with meeting the challenge and then called me a
liar when I wouldn't cooperate.
This also goes to show that you are a liar since I don't belong to
any "cult", lying hatemonger.
The RRR cult is most assuredly a cult, as cults are defined,
even though it has no official name as such (being an oligarchical
confederacy of several bigoted organizations having the very same
loathsome, anti-human-rights, agendas. By subscribing to those
agendas, you ARE a lemming of that very real cult.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I don't remember subscribing to any agenda, perhaps you could post proof
that I subscribed to *anything* let alone an agenda that probably
doesn't even exist.
Also, simply because you claim something is a cult doesn't make it so,
you are certainly in no position, being the hateful and intolerant bigot
that you are, to be able to proclaim anything as being a bonafide cult,
at least not to the point of people having to accept it as a cult
(whatever the hell RRR is).
--
What is the modern definition of a racist? anyone winning an argument
with a liberal -- author unknown
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
14 May 2005 07:35:47 PM |
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On Sat, 14 May 2005 12:42:43 -0400,
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777t@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
If "Rob Lowe" hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propa
ganda by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much
respect for human rights and personal liberties as did Goebbels,
of the National Socialist Party, in the 1930s and '40s... he *should*
be. ...
So in other words he said something that you could not refute
so now he is more evil than the devil himself.
ROTFL!!!! You present me with **anything** that he's *ever*
SPAMMED in here on either the topics of abortion or access
by gays to across-the-board EQUAL rights, and I will immediately
respond to that tripe with a FACT-based and conclusive refutation.
Are you up to that challenge, or do you just enjoy exercising
your fingers on keyboards and supporting *vacuous* and hateful
agendas?
Oh so now it is up to me to post his past, for you, to sulk over with
hatred and intolerance and project your opinion as to why he is wrong
about something even though you have no real facts to prove he
is wrong.
TRANSLATION: I'm too lazy to attempt to show why you're wrong,
know full well that the homophobic and Anti-
Choice agendas don't have a leg to stand on,
much less ANY relevant FACTS that could
support their loathsome agendas against per-
sonal liberties. And that if I **were** to
cite anything that "Rob" posted for you to
have a go at, you'd make total dog meat out
of it BY employing relevant facts. So this
response is just my way of trying to weasel
out (but I know in my heart that it's SO
lame, and such an obvious LIE, that all I'll
accomplish in this response is to make a
total laughingstock in here. As usual.)
Why didn't you have the guts and integrity simply to say *that* in
the FIRST place?
Oh. Yeah. Because guts and integrity are two qualities NEVER
found in RRR cult lemmings. Or they couldn't *be* RRR cult
lemmings.
Then that settles it, you can't refute anything he said.
All that's settled is that you're a dishonest dolt. Since you keep
doing such a great job of proving it to everyone.
How is that dishonest?
Since I never lie in my posts, you proved your dishonesty by
calling me a liar.
I challenged you to refute something...
No. You challenged me to refute something UNSPECIFIED. And
my challenge to you was for you to cite something from one of "Rob's"
SPAMMED postings that you thought I couldn't refute -- so that I
could proceed to make dog meat out of it.
And you said, "even though you have no real facts to prove he
is wrong."
There, you were wrong again. Marshalling facts that prove bigots
and their hateful agendas are wrong is one of the easiest things in the
world for egalitarians to do. And here in Usenet, we do it to the likes
of "Rob" regularly.
...and all you [did was demand] that I help you with meeting the
challenge and then called me a liar when I wouldn't cooperate.
LOL!!! You were too gutless, lazy, or both to PRESENT me with
a challenge.
This also goes to show that you are a liar since I don't belong to
any "cult", lying hatemonger.
The RRR cult is most assuredly a cult, as cults are defined,
even though it has no official name as such (being an oligarchical
confederacy of several bigoted organizations having the very same
loathsome, anti-human-rights, agendas. By subscribing to those
agendas, you ARE a lemming of that very real cult.
Either by intentionally doing so, or you're one by default because
you are inadvertently supporting their hatefulness.
I don't remember subscribing to any agenda, perhaps you could post
proof that I subscribed to *anything* let alone an agenda that probably
doesn't even exist.
ROTFL!!!! you think that there may not be an agenda that seeks to
deprive gays of having EQUAL rights, across-the-board -- even though
you are PART of that problem? You either lie like a rug, or you've been
living in a cave for the last couple of decades.
Also, simply because you claim something is a cult doesn't make it so,...
Okay. Let's see if you can comprehend this ---
The DEFINING Flaw of the RRR Cultists
They are SO vocal, SO absurd, and SO high-profile, they get
FAR more press and attention than they deserve. Possibly it's because
most of them claim to be Christians. And America has 150 million or so
of those. Thus, the news media and our politicians may still have the
mistaken impression that they are REPRESENTATIVE of Christians.
That perhaps maybe even MOST Christians are like the squeaky-wheel
types who walk around carrying signs with photos of aborted fetuses on
them. Or who protest loudly that "Those &%$# faggots want 'SPECIAL'
rights!" Or worse, beat them to death, or shoot the abortion doctors.
They're giving Christians, and Christianity in general, a bad name.
Ironically, and unfortunately, fully 98% of Christians are therefore
getting a VERY bad rap.
That's because 98% of all U.S. Christians either ignore the
above-described cultists of the Religious Radical Right... or want
NOTHING whatsoever to do with them. Most Christians are quiet,
tolerant people who go about their daily jobs and bother no one.
So what IS it about the RRR Cultists that set them apart?
We could say that it's the disinformation they've soaked up like
sponges from their False Teachers who daily spew the phony and
unbiblical "we-must-impose-change-upon-the-world" dogma to all
two million or so of them over Christian radio stations. Teachers like
James Dobson, D. James Kennedy, Gary Bauer, Beverly LaHaye,
Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson, who have mostly abandoned the
Great Commission (spreading the gospel), in favor of pouring more
energy into their hateful vendetta against many of our individual
freedoms and rights. But... not ALL of them listen to Christian radio.
No. There is ONE flaw that is common to EVERY cultist of the
RRR. Without it, one cannot BE an RRR Cultist.
...Busybodyism.
Consider the fact that whatever consenting adults may choose
to do in their own, personal lives, as long as they don't break the law
or overtly do harm to others and/or their property, that is their OWN
business, and no one else's.
So listen up, RRR Cultists (and in the case of abortion,
Anti-Choicers, who so often are the same people):
(1) If a women CHOOSES -- from among the three avail-
and legal choices -- to obtain an abortion... that is
NONE of YOUR business.
(2) Homosexuals have sex with people of the same gender
and you don't? So what? No big deal. Why should
you care? No one's dragging you into their bedrooms
to watch, any more than you would do that to them.
Again: NONE of your business.
(3) Homosexuals seek EQUAL rights in the workplace.
NOT "special" ones. I have YET to EVER hear of
a gay person asking for "special" rights, or even for
rights that anyone could CONSIDER "special." That
is a lie, constantly promoted by the RRR's leaders.
They have been, and are, discriminated against
in the workplace. Often, the fact that they are known
to be gay -- EVEN THOUGH they are just like the
heterosexuals, except in bed (and, BTW, millions of
HETEROsexuals engage in the *same* sexual acts
with each other that the gays employ!) -- is enough to
keep them from being hired, or enough to get them
fired. They want such discriminatory practices to be
illegal, and there is nothing wrong with that. They
simply want to be on an EQUAL playing field.
(4) Unmarried HETEROSEXUAL couples often are
unable to rent the apartments they want... because
they're unmarried! Can you imagine what would
happen to the landlord if he/she were to refuse to
rent to ANYONE just because the would-be renters
were BLACK? Good luck! They'd better have a
very good lawyer. And the practice is LUDICROUS,
because their renting to unmarried couples does
NO one any harm. And... guess what? Whether
or not a couple is married is NO one else's business.
(5) Many (not all) homosexuals want the right to marry
their partners, and thus share the SAME benefits
(insurance, etc.) that heterosexuals who love each
other have. Well -- why not? This would do no
harm to anyone. but it would make our society
much more FAIR.
(6) The two biggest targets of the RRR Cultists are
abortion rights and homosexual rights. But gay
rights have three major aspects, an another of those
is the same as described in (4), above. There is
no way that being assured that discrimination is
NOT imposed of them could be, by ANY stretch
of the imagination, regarded a "special" right.
It is a CIVIL right, plain and simple.
Is there ANY biblical basis that the deceived Christians of
the RRR Cult can draw upon for to support their bigotry and
busybodyism? No. Neither Jesus, nor God, anywhere in the
Bible, appointed Their believers to be Their Enforcers, or Their
Gestapo vs. society.
Does God disagree with any of the above-listed practices?
Probably not, as regards abortion. Nowhere does the Bible
defend developing human entities. It defends humanity only
after a person has been born. God is AWARE of fetuses (as
some verses indicate), just as He is aware of sperm and ova,
and probably the position of every atom in the universe. But
He does not DEFEND them. In fact, defense sometimes can
be lacking, even for already-born, essentially innocent adults.
To see this most clearly, use the NIV Bible, and see how
slaves are regarded in Exodus 21:20-21.
As for the other points... there is significant evidence that
He does. However, it is the right of every individual to sort
these issues out with Him, if they so desire. Or NOT to, if
they don't. The issues are personal, all the way, and the
business of NO other people.
DOES God condone enforcement by people of His laws
and pronouncements? Yes... but NOT the way the RRR Cult
does it. There is clear-cut instruction in the New Testament
for disciplinary action that can be taken against those who
violate those. BUT... and this is a HUGE "but"... those
instructions apply ONLY to the practice of CHURCH disci-
pline by Christians, vis-a-vis disobedient FELLOW Christians.
NOT vis-a-vis society in general. In fact, there is even a
verse that PROHIBITS their doing that.
BOTTOM LINE: The DEFINING characteristic of RRR
Cultists is *busybodyism.* No sensible
person would be an advocate of
discrimination. Or even want anything
to do with discriminating against any
person or group over mere TRIVIALITES.
Nor does the Bible advocate it.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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After a short exchange with Craig I feel that he has some serious
issues, in fact I believe he is a danger to those around him and I
wouldn't put it past him to try and murder someone because they think
differently than Craig.
Unless he is on drugs he is mentally ill, there really is no other
explaination for his seething hatred and intolerance as well as outright
lies and name-calling.
Get help Craig, you really need it badly, get help before you kill someone.
--
What is the modern definition of a racist? anyone winning an argument
with a liberal -- author unknown
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Usenet's own **Joseph Goebbels**: "Rob Wade" -- SPAMMER of Hate-Propaganda |
15 May 2005 01:51:16 PM |
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:29:14 -0400,
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777@sssnet.com> wrote:
After a short exchange with Craig I feel that he has some
serious issues...
No surprise. We always knew your elevator stops about 50 stories
short of the top floor of a 51-story building.
[[[ READERS: By way of clarification, to *normal* and *sensible*
people, "issues" always have been, and still
are, TOPICS. My guess is that Scott here is dumb enough to be into
psychobabble, which refers inanely to PROBLEMS as "issues." ]]]
Sorry to disappoint you, loon, but I don't have any problems of
significance, and the TOPICS surrounding harmless and beneficial
personal liberties that are being interfered with by doltish and
buttinskyish bigots like you are problems only **because** of bigots
like you, who are too brainless to recognize that the way people live
their PERSONAL lives, wherein they are doing no overt harm to their
neighbors, is absolutely NONE of your/their business.
In fact I believe he is a danger to those around him...
Nah. Only to the AGENDAS of hateful people. As the segreg-
ationists learned, with a lot of help from *many* egalitarian friends,
40 years ago.
...and I wouldn't put it past him to try and murder someone
because they think differently than Craig.
ROTFL!!!! We knew you' were a loon before, Scott -- but NOW
you have proven yourself a viable candidate for the rubber room in
the nearest cackle factory. You are LITERALLY a loon!
Unless he is on drugs....
Does an occasional aspirin count?
...he is mentally ill, there really is no other explaination for his
seething hatred and intolerance as well as outright lies and
name-calling.
I never lie in my posts, and what *you* so ignorantly refer to as
"name-calling" is the employment of ACCURATE DESCRIPTORS,
which first must be publicly *earned* by the people and agendas
to which they are applied.
Get help Craig, you really need it badly, get help before
you kill someone.
ROTFLMAO!!! You certainly are well on your way to being
regarded in these groups as one of the **craziest** people in
Usenet.
BTW -- people of *your* hateful ilk usually are Anti-Choicers with
regard to abortion. And as such, they support a loathsome agenda
that seeks to impose IMMENSE hardship upon no fewer than tens
of MILLIONS of women by FORCING childbirth upon them.
AGAINST their will. Resulting in the DENIAL of their rights... their
RELEGATION to second-class-citizen status... their INVOLUNTARY
SERVITUDE to mere, NON-sentient developing entities which are,
in all important ways, equivalent to sperm and ova (human, unique,
NON-sentient, a stage of development without which NO births
would occur -- and alive); entities which the WOMEN would very
properly, under the circumstances, regard to be parasitic. Further
manifestations of that hardship would be the DISRUPTION of their
well-being, both short-term and long-term (as in, for decades or a
lifetime)... and the DESTRUCTION of countless of their oppor-
tunities.
It takes a *sociopath* to do that. JUST as it takes a sociopath to
seek to deprive any person or group of people of ANY of their rights
over something as TRIVIAL as the way they happen to have sex in
private, and with whom -- as YOU do.
To say that you are nuttier than a fruitcake would be a kindness.
For the readers' benefit, I'm restoring the previous post -- which,
dishonest coward that you are -- you DUCKED completely. No
surprise, since it so thoroughly **indicted** you. (LOL!!!) ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
On Sat, 14 May 2005 12:42:43 -0400,
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777t@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Scott Hendricks <hendricks777_spam_me_not@sssnet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
If "Rob Lowe" hasn't *officially* been deemed Minister of Propa
ganda by the loathsome RRR cult... which has about as much
respect for human rights and personal liberties as did Goebbels,
of the National Socialist Party, in the 1930s and '40s... he *should*
be. ...
So in other words he said something that you could not refute
so now he is more evil than the devil himself.
ROTFL!!!! You present me with **anything** that he's *ever*
SPAMMED in here on either the topics of abortion or access
by gays to across-the-board EQUAL rights, and I will immediately
respond to that tripe with a FACT-based and conclusive refutation.
Are you up to that challenge, or do you just enjoy exercising
your fingers on keyboards and supporting *vacuous* and hateful
agendas?
Oh so now it is up to me to post his past, for you, to sulk over with
hatred and intolerance and project your opinion as to why he is wrong
about something even though you have no real facts to prove he
is wrong.
TRANSLATION: I'm too lazy to attempt to show why you're wrong,
know full well that the homophobic and Anti-
Choice agendas don't have a leg to stand on,
much less ANY relevant FACTS that could
support their loathsome agendas against per-
sonal liberties. And that if I **were** to
cite anything that "Rob" posted for you to
have a go at, you'd make total dog meat out
of it BY employing relevant facts. So this
response is just my way of trying to weasel
out (but I know in my heart that it's SO
lame, and such an obvious LIE, that all I'll
accomplish in this response is to make a
total laughingstock in here. As usual.)
Why didn't you have the guts and integrity simply to say *that* in
the FIRST place?
Oh. Yeah. Because guts and integrity are two qualities NEVER
found in RRR cult lemmings. Or they couldn't *be* RRR cult
lemmings.
Then that settles it, you can't refute anything he said.
All that's settled is that you're a dishonest dolt. Since you keep
doing such a great job of proving it to everyone.
How is that dishonest?
Since I never lie in my posts, you proved your dishonesty by
calling me a liar.
I challenged you to refute something...
No. You challenged me to refute something UNSPECIFIED. And
my challenge to you was for you to cite something from one of "Rob's"
SPAMMED postings that you thought I couldn't refute -- so that I
could proceed to make dog meat out of it.
And you said, "even though you have no real facts to prove he
is wrong."
There, you were wrong again. Marshalling facts that prove bigots
and their hateful agendas are wrong is one of the easiest things in the
world for egalitarians to do. And here in Usenet, we do it to the likes
of "Rob" regularly.
...and all you [did was demand] that I help you with meeting the
challenge and then called me a liar when I wouldn't cooperate.
LOL!!! You were too gutless, lazy, or both to PRESENT me with
a challenge.
This also goes to show that you are a liar since I don't belong to
any "cult", lying hatemonger.
The RRR cult is most assuredly a cult, as cults are defined,
even though it has no official name as such (being an oligarchical
confederacy of several bigoted organizations having the very same
loathsome, anti-human-rights, agendas. By subscribing to those
agendas, you ARE a lemming of that very real cult.
Either by intentionally doing so, or you're one by default because
you are inadvertently supporting their hatefulness.
I don't remember subscribing to any agenda, perhaps you could post
proof that I subscribed to *anything* let alone an agenda that probably
doesn't even exist.
ROTFL!!!! you think that there may not be an agenda that seeks to
deprive gays of having EQUAL rights, across-the-board -- even though
you are PART of that problem? You either lie like a rug, or you've been
living in a cave for the last couple of decades.
Also, simply because you claim something is a cult doesn't
make it so,...
Okay. Let's see if you can comprehend this ---
The DEFINING Flaw of the RRR Cultists
They are SO vocal, SO absurd, and SO high-profile, they get
FAR more press and attention than they deserve. Possibly it's because
most of them claim to be Christians. And America has 150 million or so
of those. Thus, the news media and our politicians may still have the
mistaken impression that they are REPRESENTATIVE of Christians.
That perhaps maybe even MOST Christians are like the squeaky-wheel
types who walk around carrying signs with photos of aborted fetuses on
them. Or who protest loudly that "Those &%$# faggots want 'SPECIAL'
rights!" Or worse, beat them to death, or shoot the abortion doctors.
They're giving Christians, and Christianity in general, a bad name.
Ironically, and unfortunately, fully 98% of Christians are therefore
getting a VERY bad rap.
That's because 98% of all U.S. Christians either ignore the
above-described cultists of the Religious Radical Right... or want
NOTHING whatsoever to do with them. Most Christians are quiet,
tolerant people who go about their daily jobs and bother no one.
So what IS it about the RRR Cultists that set them apart?
We could say that it's the disinformation they've soaked up like
sponges from their False Teachers who daily spew the phony and
unbiblical "we-must-impose-change-upon-the-world" dogma to all
two million or so of them over Christian radio stations. Teachers like
James Dobson, D. James Kennedy, Gary Bauer, Beverly LaHaye,
Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson, who have mostly abandoned the
Great Commission (spreading the gospel), in favor of pouring more
energy into their hateful vendetta against many of our individual
freedoms and rights. But... not ALL of them listen to Christian radio.
No. There is ONE flaw that is common to EVERY cultist of the
RRR. Without it, one cannot BE an RRR Cultist.
...Busybodyism.
Consider the fact that whatever consenting adults may choose
to do in their own, personal lives, as long as they don't break the law
or overtly do harm to others and/or their property, that is their OWN
business, and no one else's.
So listen up, RRR Cultists (and in the case of abortion,
Anti-Choicers, who so often are the same people):
(1) If a women CHOOSES -- from among the three avail-
and legal choices -- to obtain an abortion... that is
NONE of YOUR business.
(2) Homosexuals have sex with people of the same gender
and you don't? So what? No big deal. Why should
you care? No one's dragging you into their bedrooms
to watch, any more than you would do that to them.
Again: NONE of your business.
(3) Homosexuals seek EQUAL rights in the workplace.
NOT "special" ones. I have YET to EVER hear of
a gay person asking for "special" rights, or even for
rights that anyone could CONSIDER "special." That
is a lie, constantly promoted by the RRR's leaders.
They have been, and are, discriminated against
in the workplace. Often, the fact that they are known
to be gay -- EVEN THOUGH they are just like the
heterosexuals, except in bed (and, BTW, millions of
HETEROsexuals engage in the *same* sexual acts
with each other that the gays employ!) -- is enough to
keep them from being hired, or enough to get them
fired. They want such discriminatory practices to be
illegal, and there is nothing wrong with that. They
simply want to be on an EQUAL playing field.
(4) Unmarried HETEROSEXUAL couples often are
unable to rent the apartments they want... because
they're unmarried! Can you imagine what would
happen to the landlord if he/she were to refuse to
rent to ANYONE just because the would-be renters
were BLACK? Good luck! They'd better have a
very good lawyer. And the practice is LUDICROUS,
because their renting to unmarried couples does
NO one any harm. And... guess what? Whether
or not a couple is married is NO one else's business.
(5) Many (not all) homosexuals want the right to marry
their partners, and thus share the SAME benefits
(insurance, etc.) that heterosexuals who love each
other have. Well -- why not? This would do no
harm to anyone. but it would make our society
much more FAIR.
(6) The two biggest targets of the RRR Cultists are
abortion rights and homosexual rights. But gay
rights have three major aspects, an another of those
is the same as described in (4), above. There is
no way that being assured that discrimination is
NOT imposed of them could be, by ANY stretch
of the imagination, regarded a "special" right.
It is a CIVIL right, plain and simple.
Is there ANY biblical basis that the deceived Christians of
the RRR Cult can draw upon for to support their bigotry and
busybodyism? No. Neither Jesus, nor God, anywhere in the
Bible, appointed Their believers to be Their Enforcers, or Their
Gestapo vs. society.
Does God disagree with any of the above-listed practices?
Probably not, as regards abortion. Nowhere does the Bible
defend developing human entities. It defends humanity only
after a person has been born. God is AWARE of fetuses (as
some verses indicate), just as He is aware of sperm and ova,
and probably the position of every atom in the universe. But
He does not DEFEND them. In fact, defense sometimes can
be lacking, even for already-born, essentially innocent adults.
To see this most clearly, use the NIV Bible, and see how
slaves are regarded in Exodus 21:20-21.
As for the other points... there is significant evidence that
He does. However, it is the right of every individual to sort
these issues out with Him, if they so desire. Or NOT to, if
they don't. The issues are personal, all the way, and the
business of NO other people.
DOES God condone enforcement by people of His laws
and pronouncements? Yes... but NOT the way the RRR Cult
does it. There is clear-cut instruction in the New Testament
for disciplinary action that can be taken against those who
violate those. BUT... and this is a HUGE "but"... those
instructions apply ONLY to the practice of CHURCH disci-
pline by Christians, vis-a-vis disobedient FELLOW Christians.
NOT vis-a-vis society in general. In fact, there is even a
verse that PROHIBITS their doing that.
BOTTOM LINE: The DEFINING characteristic of RRR
Cultists is *busybodyism.* No sensible
person would be an advocate of
discrimination. Or even want anything
to do with discriminating against any
person or group over mere TRIVIALITES.
Nor does the Bible advocate it.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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