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Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
LifeSiteNews ^ | 12/21/06 | LifeSiteNews
Posted on 12/21/2006 5:43:40 PM PST by wagglebee
WASHINGTON, December 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Catholic League
is reporting vandalism to nativity scenes across the United States.
Figures from nativity scenes were stolen or vandalized in Tucson, AZ ;
Millbrae, CA; Mission Viejo, CA; Moorpark, CA; San Francisco, CA;
Naugatuck, CT; Waterbury, CT (Jesus was taken, but one of the arms was
left behind); Fort Walton Beach, FL; Des Moines, IA; Sioux City, IA;
Ammon, ID; Chicago, IL (32 figures of baby Jesus were nabbed-they were
later dumped on the lawn of a Catholic church); Jackson County, IL (two
incidents); Tinley Park, IL; Floyd County, IN; Fort Wayne, IN;
Montgomery County, IN; Wichita, KS; Hardin, KY; Lafayette, LA (two
incidents); Youngsville, LA; Fitchburg, MA; Southborough, MA; Winthrop,
ME; Portage Township, MI; Fayettville, NC; New Bern, NC; Columbus, NE
(12 baby Jesus figures were stolen in one day); Plaistow, NH; Dover,
OH; Utica, OH (three incidents); Artemis, PA; Bucks County, PA;
Greenfield, PA; Hilton Head, SC; Halom City, TX; Santa Fe, TX; Salt
Lake City, UT; Winfield, WV and West Allis, WI.
"Some of these attacks were clearly motivated by malice," the League's
Bill Donohue commented. "The baby Jesus figure stolen in Plaistow, NH
was later returned, having been defiled by a pair of devil horns. The
hooligan who stole the manger from Southborough, MA left the
surrounding secular decorations standing."
Donohue continued, "In Sioux Falls, SD, someone crushed the face of the
statue of Jesus. What's worse, the creep in Des Moines, IA burned
Jesus' face, doused the statue with red nail polish, and twisted the
electrical cord around its neck."
Commenting Wednesday on the tradition of nativity scenes, Pope Benedict
XVI said, "In a few days it will be Christmas, and I imagine that, in
your homes, you are putting the final touches to your nativity scenes,
which are such an evocative depiction of Christmas. I hope that this
important element, not only of our spirituality but also of our culture
and art, may endure as a simple and eloquent way to remember the One
Who came 'to dwell among us'."
See related coverage:
Nativity Scenes Vandalized in Three Major Canadian Cities - Montreal,
Ottawa, Toronto
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06122003.html
Nativity Scene Stolen by Abortion Clinic Worker Returned by Police
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121501.html
New York Village Would Rather Remove 9-Foot Menorah than Allow Nativity
Scene
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06122004.html
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22 Dec 2006 06:40:47 AM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote in message
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Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
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The first stirring of the wind of the coming persecution of Christian -
leaves rustling as the storm approaches.
"He who endures to the end, the same shall be saved" (Jesus)
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22 Dec 2006 11:29:57 PM |
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Does this mean Jesus is now dead after all this torture he endured?
On 22 Dec 2006 03:36:39 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1757069/posts
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
LifeSiteNews ^ | 12/21/06 | LifeSiteNews
Posted on 12/21/2006 5:43:40 PM PST by wagglebee
WASHINGTON, December 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Catholic League
is reporting vandalism to nativity scenes across the United States.
Figures from nativity scenes were stolen or vandalized in Tucson, AZ ;
Millbrae, CA; Mission Viejo, CA; Moorpark, CA; San Francisco, CA;
Naugatuck, CT; Waterbury, CT (Jesus was taken, but one of the arms was
left behind); Fort Walton Beach, FL; Des Moines, IA; Sioux City, IA;
Ammon, ID; Chicago, IL (32 figures of baby Jesus were nabbed-they were
later dumped on the lawn of a Catholic church); Jackson County, IL (two
incidents); Tinley Park, IL; Floyd County, IN; Fort Wayne, IN;
Montgomery County, IN; Wichita, KS; Hardin, KY; Lafayette, LA (two
incidents); Youngsville, LA; Fitchburg, MA; Southborough, MA; Winthrop,
ME; Portage Township, MI; Fayettville, NC; New Bern, NC; Columbus, NE
(12 baby Jesus figures were stolen in one day); Plaistow, NH; Dover,
OH; Utica, OH (three incidents); Artemis, PA; Bucks County, PA;
Greenfield, PA; Hilton Head, SC; Halom City, TX; Santa Fe, TX; Salt
Lake City, UT; Winfield, WV and West Allis, WI.
"Some of these attacks were clearly motivated by malice," the League's
Bill Donohue commented. "The baby Jesus figure stolen in Plaistow, NH
was later returned, having been defiled by a pair of devil horns. The
hooligan who stole the manger from Southborough, MA left the
surrounding secular decorations standing."
Donohue continued, "In Sioux Falls, SD, someone crushed the face of the
statue of Jesus. What's worse, the creep in Des Moines, IA burned
Jesus' face, doused the statue with red nail polish, and twisted the
electrical cord around its neck."
Commenting Wednesday on the tradition of nativity scenes, Pope Benedict
XVI said, "In a few days it will be Christmas, and I imagine that, in
your homes, you are putting the final touches to your nativity scenes,
which are such an evocative depiction of Christmas. I hope that this
important element, not only of our spirituality but also of our culture
and art, may endure as a simple and eloquent way to remember the One
Who came 'to dwell among us'."
See related coverage:
Nativity Scenes Vandalized in Three Major Canadian Cities - Montreal,
Ottawa, Toronto
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06122003.html
Nativity Scene Stolen by Abortion Clinic Worker Returned by Police
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121501.html
New York Village Would Rather Remove 9-Foot Menorah than Allow Nativity
Scene
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06122004.html
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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22 Dec 2006 11:08:00 AM |
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In article <1166787399.652308.37990@
79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
says...
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
yaaaawwwwwnnnnn
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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22 Dec 2006 04:16:29 PM |
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On 22 Dec 2006 03:36:39 -0800 "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I
was immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's
"Messiah" for some reason...
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
Gosh. So much for your claims that Americans are religious.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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23 Dec 2006 05:23:14 AM |
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On 22 Dec 2006 03:36:39 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
You know what is utterly revolting about you? You are more upset
about damage to a doll than real children.
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Priorities: Prevent global climate destabilisation. End both wars. Prepare for oil shortages.
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22 Dec 2006 07:53:14 AM |
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On 22 Dec 2006 03:36:39 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1757069/posts
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
So someone broke some dolls. So what? At very worst, it's malicious
mischief.
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| User: "James A. Donald" |
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22 Dec 2006 08:17:47 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet"
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus
Smashed, Dismembered, Desecrated
Al Klein
So someone broke some dolls. So what? At very worst,
it's malicious mischief.
Let us hear you say that next time someone breaks into a
synagogue and trashes it.
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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22 Dec 2006 08:52:01 PM |
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:17:47 +1000 James A. Donald
<jamesd@echeque.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I was
immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah"
for some reason...
"Sound of Trumpet"
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus
Smashed, Dismembered, Desecrated
Al Klein
So someone broke some dolls. So what? At very worst,
it's malicious mischief.
Let us hear you say that next time someone breaks into a
synagogue and trashes it.
That would involve breaking into something. A common thread I've seen
in all these reports is that all these fantasy scenes were outside, in
plain view, and left unguarded for long periods. Attractive nuisance
is the term we are looking for here.
Of course, Jesus had some choice words for those who felt they had to
make public announcements of their faith...
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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23 Dec 2006 01:41:09 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet"
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus
Smashed, Dismembered, Desecrated
Al Klein
So someone broke some dolls. So what? At very
worst, it's malicious mischief.
James A. Donald
Let us hear you say that next time someone breaks
into a synagogue and trashes it.
Douglas Berry
That would involve breaking into something.
Fair enough. OK. Let us hear Al Klien's reaction the
next time a synagogue gets spray painted with a red star
of david containing a dollar sign.
Attractive nuisance is the term we are looking for
here.
Are synagogues also attractive nuisances?
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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23 Dec 2006 09:23:53 PM |
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On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 05:41:09 +1000 James A. Donald
<jamesd@echeque.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I was
immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah"
for some reason...
"Sound of Trumpet"
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus
Smashed, Dismembered, Desecrated
Al Klein
So someone broke some dolls. So what? At very
worst, it's malicious mischief.
James A. Donald
Let us hear you say that next time someone breaks
into a synagogue and trashes it.
Douglas Berry
That would involve breaking into something.
Fair enough. OK. Let us hear Al Klien's reaction the
next time a synagogue gets spray painted with a red star
of david containing a dollar sign.
Attractive nuisance is the term we are looking for
here.
Are synagogues also attractive nuisances?
Nope. But putting something that is obviously temporary, contains
small parts that can be easily removed, and is not secured is.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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23 Dec 2006 10:41:07 PM |
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On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 03:23:53 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 05:41:09 +1000 James A. Donald
<jamesd@echeque.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I was
immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah"
for some reason...
Are synagogues also attractive nuisances?
Nope. But putting something that is obviously temporary, contains
small parts that can be easily removed, and is not secured is.
Even something more or less permanent, secured against public access,
is. Look at cases involving drownings in private, fenced-in swimming
pools.
Power line towers are also considered attractive nuisances if someone
climbs one and gets hurt as a result.
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02 Jan 2007 04:20:09 AM |
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On 23-Dec-2006, James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
James A. Donald
Let us hear you say that next time someone breaks
into a synagogue and trashes it.
Douglas Berry
That would involve breaking into something.
Fair enough. OK. Let us hear Al Klien's reaction the
next time a synagogue gets spray painted with a red star
of david containing a dollar sign.
If something that specific happens, we'll all assume you did it.
Susan
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23 Dec 2006 10:38:27 PM |
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:17:47 +1000, James A. Donald
<jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
"Sound of Trumpet"
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus
Smashed, Dismembered, Desecrated
Al Klein
So someone broke some dolls. So what? At very worst,
it's malicious mischief.
Let us hear you say that next time someone breaks into a
synagogue and trashes it.
I wouldn't say it next time someone breaks into a church and trashes
it. There's a difference between destroying a few almost worthless
dolls owned by public entities (why is the government using public tax
monies to play with dolls anyway?) and destroying buildings owned by
private entities.
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22 Dec 2006 08:49:48 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On 22 Dec 2006 03:36:39 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1757069/posts
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
So someone broke some dolls. So what? At very worst, it's malicious
mischief.
Looks like someone at Lie News just picked a few random locations - one of the
Texas alleged vandalisms happened in Santa Fe, which is in the Houston area,
and the local media haven't issued a peep about it. (Had it happened, the
locals would be putting up roadblocks on Texas 6.)
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chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Manitoba 1 (December 16)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 22 vs. Chicago, 7:35
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22 Dec 2006 09:33:40 AM |
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The Chief Instigator wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On 22 Dec 2006 03:36:39 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1757069/posts
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
So someone broke some dolls. So what? At very worst, it's malicious
mischief.
Looks like someone at Lie News just picked a few random locations - one of the
Texas alleged vandalisms happened in Santa Fe, which is in the Houston area,
and the local media haven't issued a peep about it. (Had it happened, the
locals would be putting up roadblocks on Texas 6.)
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and cultivate,
fanatical Christians also project their hatred and fear on
others, and spend a lot of time fantasizing about being
persecuted.
However, the only actual persecution that occurs is that
they're sometimes prevented from telling everyone else
what to do and how to live. Since this doesn't suffice
to feed the feelings they enjoy, they make up atrocity
and persecution stories.
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22 Dec 2006 08:35:04 PM |
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"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
If christians hated and feared, we would see menorahs
desecrated, instead of seeing nativity scenes
desecrated.
What we see is christians turning the other cheek, and
meeting hatred with love and sacrifice.
For example when the pope suggested that Muslims were
prone to violence, Muslims proceeded to demonstrate the
falsity of that suggestion by murdering a sixty five
year old nun, Sister Leonella who had lived in Africa
for almost four decades helping sick people. Her last
words were murmured in Italian, her mother tongue.
``Perdono, perdono," she whispered. I forgive, I
forgive.
Christianity is the least deadly of faiths, because of
its other worldliness, because of its doctrine of
turning the other cheek, and because of its doctrine of
"render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, render unto
God that which is God."
And, in fact, fairly uniformly, Christians *do* turn the
other cheek - observe recent events - the ***** christ
controversy, and the controversy over the Pope's remarks
on Islam. Indeed observe ancient history. As I pointed
out earlier: The fact that absolutely zero Christians
took violent action against "***** christ", while
hundreds of thousands of Muslims committed acts of
violence in response to cartoon Mohammed directly
reflects the fact that all major historical Islamic
religious leaders over the past fourteen hundred years
have personally commanded in war, pillage, rape and
massacre, and absolutely zero major historical Christian
religious leaders over the past two thousand years have
personally commanded in war, pillage, rape and massacre.
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote in message
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"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
If christians hated and feared, we would see menorahs
desecrated, instead of seeing nativity scenes
desecrated.
that would be the synagogues getting trashed on a regular basis then.....
oh, of course, that isn't doen by christians, its done by.....oh, some-one
else....
What we see is christians turning the other cheek, and
meeting hatred with love and sacrifice.
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth? I dont recall you damning any major
christian sects for not supporting the Iraq debacle.....
For example when the pope suggested that Muslims were
prone to violence, Muslims proceeded to demonstrate the
falsity of that suggestion by murdering a sixty five
year old nun, Sister Leonella who had lived in Africa
for almost four decades helping sick people. Her last
words were murmured in Italian, her mother tongue.
``Perdono, perdono," she whispered. I forgive, I
forgive.
You were there? You had a tape-recorder and caught her dying breath?
Christianity is the least deadly of faiths, because of
its other worldliness, because of its doctrine of
turning the other cheek, and because of its doctrine of
"render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, render unto
God that which is God."
And, in fact, fairly uniformly, Christians *do* turn the
other cheek - observe recent events - the ***** christ
controversy, and the controversy over the Pope's remarks
on Islam. Indeed observe ancient history. As I pointed
out earlier: The fact that absolutely zero Christians
took violent action against "***** christ", while
hundreds of thousands of Muslims committed acts of
violence in response to cartoon Mohammed directly
reflects the fact that all major historical Islamic
religious leaders over the past fourteen hundred years
have personally commanded in war, pillage, rape and
massacre, and absolutely zero major historical Christian
religious leaders over the past two thousand years have
personally commanded in war, pillage, rape and massacre.
Best not mention the crusades then......
or any war the British have been involved in since HenryVIII.....
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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23 Dec 2006 01:31:45 PM |
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"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
James A. Donald
If christians hated and feared, we would see
menorahs desecrated, instead of seeing nativity
scenes desecrated.
"brique"
that would be the synagogues getting trashed on a
regular basis then..... oh, of course, that isn't doen
by christians, its done by.....oh, some-one else....
These days, Muslims and commies - often Jewish commies.
Go on to any university campus. It is not Christians
chanting "death to the Zionists."
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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24 Dec 2006 09:51:36 AM |
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James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote in message
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"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
James A. Donald
If christians hated and feared, we would see
menorahs desecrated, instead of seeing nativity
scenes desecrated.
"brique"
that would be the synagogues getting trashed on a
regular basis then..... oh, of course, that isn't doen
by christians, its done by.....oh, some-one else....
These days, Muslims and commies - often Jewish commies.
Go on to any university campus. It is not Christians
chanting "death to the Zionists."
Muslims and commies...... jewish commies even.... my, isnt your brain a
fertle little breeding ground....
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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On 23-Dec-2006, James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
James A. Donald
If christians hated and feared, we would see
menorahs desecrated, instead of seeing nativity
scenes desecrated.
"brique"
that would be the synagogues getting trashed on a
regular basis then..... oh, of course, that isn't doen
by christians, its done by.....oh, some-one else....
These days, Muslims and commies - often Jewish commies.
Stop lying.
Susan
Go on to any university campus. It is not Christians
chanting "death to the Zionists."
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On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 05:31:45 +1000, in alt.atheism , James A. Donald
<jamesd@echeque.com> in <lq0ro250qfklj5p94fdee6rlvtkb3ffvsu@4ax.com>
wrote:
"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
James A. Donald
If christians hated and feared, we would see
menorahs desecrated, instead of seeing nativity
scenes desecrated.
"brique"
that would be the synagogues getting trashed on a
regular basis then..... oh, of course, that isn't doen
by christians, its done by.....oh, some-one else....
These days, Muslims and commies - often Jewish commies.
So the current Polish anti-Semitism, Moslems or Jews?
Go on to any university campus. It is not Christians
chanting "death to the Zionists."
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Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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23 Dec 2006 07:43:04 PM |
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"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
James A. Donald
If christians hated and feared, we would see
menorahs desecrated, instead of seeing nativity
scenes desecrated.
"brique"
that would be the synagogues getting trashed on a
regular basis then..... oh, of course, that isn't doen
by christians, its done by.....oh, some-one else....
James A. Donald:
These days, Muslims and commies - often Jewish commies.
Matt Silberstein
So the current Polish anti-Semitism, Moslems or Jews?
Commies.
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote in message
news:6lmro2l0ccrcb8q61kd6ul52t8ikad7a3d@4ax.com...
"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
James A. Donald
If christians hated and feared, we would see
menorahs desecrated, instead of seeing nativity
scenes desecrated.
"brique"
that would be the synagogues getting trashed on a
regular basis then..... oh, of course, that isn't doen
by christians, its done by.....oh, some-one else....
James A. Donald:
These days, Muslims and commies - often Jewish commies.
Matt Silberstein
So the current Polish anti-Semitism, Moslems or Jews?
Commies.
Aryan Nation are commies too, doncha know....... the British National Party
is all self-hating jewish commies.... the Russian skinheads are osama-loving
Muslims..... see, ti all makes sense when you look at it the correct Donut
manner...
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 11:43:04 +1000, in alt.atheism , James A. Donald
<jamesd@echeque.com> in <6lmro2l0ccrcb8q61kd6ul52t8ikad7a3d@4ax.com>
wrote:
"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
James A. Donald
If christians hated and feared, we would see
menorahs desecrated, instead of seeing nativity
scenes desecrated.
"brique"
that would be the synagogues getting trashed on a
regular basis then..... oh, of course, that isn't doen
by christians, its done by.....oh, some-one else....
James A. Donald:
These days, Muslims and commies - often Jewish commies.
Matt Silberstein
So the current Polish anti-Semitism, Moslems or Jews?
Commies.
And you evidence is?
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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24 Dec 2006 03:19:29 AM |
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"brique"
that would be the synagogues getting trashed
on a regular basis then..... oh, of course,
that isn't doen by christians, its done
by.....oh, some-one else....
James A. Donald:
These days, Muslims and commies - often Jewish
commies.
Matt Silberstein
So the current Polish anti-Semitism, Moslems or
Jews?
James A. Donald:
Commies.
Matt Silberstein
And you evidence is?
On checking, I find I was wrong. The major antisemitic
force in Poland is "International third position", which
is closer to nazism than communism.
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:usnro2l7i5kv284bp59s7lo7chno2kh5v7@4ax.com:
On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 11:43:04 +1000, in alt.atheism , James A. Donald
<jamesd@echeque.com> in <6lmro2l0ccrcb8q61kd6ul52t8ikad7a3d@4ax.com>
wrote:
"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
James A. Donald
If christians hated and feared, we would see
menorahs desecrated, instead of seeing nativity
scenes desecrated.
"brique"
that would be the synagogues getting trashed on a
regular basis then..... oh, of course, that isn't doen
by christians, its done by.....oh, some-one else....
James A. Donald:
These days, Muslims and commies - often Jewish commies.
Matt Silberstein
So the current Polish anti-Semitism, Moslems or Jews?
Commies.
And you evidence is?
Evidence? Evidence? He don't need no stinkin' evidence!!! Jesus beat
upon his brain with a holy stick!
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Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
War Begins With Dubya
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23 Dec 2006 07:24:10 PM |
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James A. Donald wrote:
"Anarcissie"
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and
cultivate, fanatical Christians also project their
hatred and fear on others
If christians hated and feared, we would see menorahs
desecrated, instead of seeing nativity scenes
desecrated.
No, the types of Christians who specialize in hate and
fear have adopted the Jews, at least, those Jews who
are far away in Israel.
What we see is christians turning the other cheek, and
meeting hatred with love and sacrifice.
For example when the pope suggested that Muslims were
prone to violence, Muslims proceeded to demonstrate the
falsity of that suggestion by murdering a sixty five
year old nun, Sister Leonella who had lived in Africa
for almost four decades helping sick people. Her last
words were murmured in Italian, her mother tongue.
``Perdono, perdono," she whispered. I forgive, I
forgive.
Christianity is the least deadly of faiths, because of
its other worldliness, because of its doctrine of
turning the other cheek, and because of its doctrine of
"render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, render unto
God that which is God."
And, in fact, fairly uniformly, Christians *do* turn the
other cheek - observe recent events - the ***** christ
controversy, and the controversy over the Pope's remarks
on Islam. Indeed observe ancient history. As I pointed
out earlier: The fact that absolutely zero Christians
took violent action against "***** christ", while
hundreds of thousands of Muslims committed acts of
violence in response to cartoon Mohammed directly
reflects the fact that all major historical Islamic
religious leaders over the past fourteen hundred years
have personally commanded in war, pillage, rape and
massacre, and absolutely zero major historical Christian
religious leaders over the past two thousand years have
personally commanded in war, pillage, rape and massacre.
The significant fact of Christianity in the contemporary
world is the ardent support of the Evangelical Community
for the war criminal George Bush and his friends, and the
enabling silence of most of the rest of publicly professing
Christians, at least until opposition to the war went
safely mainstream.
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On 22-Dec-2006, "Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On 22 Dec 2006 03:36:39 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1757069/posts
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
So someone broke some dolls. So what? At very worst, it's malicious
mischief.
Looks like someone at Lie News just picked a few random locations - one
of the
Texas alleged vandalisms happened in Santa Fe, which is in the Houston
area,
and the local media haven't issued a peep about it. (Had it happened,
the
locals would be putting up roadblocks on Texas 6.)
Steeped in the hatred and fear they feel and cultivate,
fanatical Christians also project their hatred and fear on
others, and spend a lot of time fantasizing about being
persecuted.
However, the only actual persecution that occurs is that
they're sometimes prevented from telling everyone else
what to do and how to live. Since this doesn't suffice
to feed the feelings they enjoy, they make up atrocity
and persecution stories.
None of that excuses this anti-Xian vandalism.
Susan
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1757069/posts
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
If you really want to make `em mad, replace Babyjesus(tm) with a black
doll. Makes the hypocritical bastards go beserk!
...Uh, not that *I've* ever done that, of course. No, really. Not ever..
<sweating, whistling, walking away>
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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22 Dec 2006 12:38:40 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1757069/posts
Vandals Storm Creches Nationwide - Baby Jesus Smashed, Dismembered,
Desecrated
Now, THAT'S FUNNY!!!!!! Merry Christmas to all you /hate/ /thy/ /neighbor/
Pentecostals and Evangelicals. What goes around, comes around. There really IS
a Santa Claus.
LifeSiteNews ^ | 12/21/06 | LifeSiteNews
Posted on 12/21/2006 5:43:40 PM PST by wagglebee
WASHINGTON, December 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Catholic League
is reporting vandalism to nativity scenes across the United States.
Figures from nativity scenes were stolen or vandalized in Tucson, AZ ;
Millbrae, CA; Mission Viejo, CA; Moorpark, CA; San Francisco, CA;
Naugatuck, CT; Waterbury, CT (Jesus was taken, but one of the arms was
left behind); Fort Walton Beach, FL; Des Moines, IA; Sioux City, IA;
Ammon, ID; Chicago, IL (32 figures of baby Jesus were nabbed-they were
later dumped on the lawn of a Catholic church); Jackson County, IL (two
incidents); Tinley Park, IL; Floyd County, IN; Fort Wayne, IN;
Montgomery County, IN; Wichita, KS; Hardin, KY; Lafayette, LA (two
incidents); Youngsville, LA; Fitchburg, MA; Southborough, MA; Winthrop,
ME; Portage Township, MI; Fayettville, NC; New Bern, NC; Columbus, NE
(12 baby Jesus figures were stolen in one day); Plaistow, NH; Dover,
OH; Utica, OH (three incidents); Artemis, PA; Bucks County, PA;
Greenfield, PA; Hilton Head, SC; Halom City, TX; Santa Fe, TX; Salt
Lake City, UT; Winfield, WV and West Allis, WI.
"Some of these attacks were clearly motivated by malice," the League's
Bill Donohue commented. "The baby Jesus figure stolen in Plaistow, NH
was later returned, having been defiled by a pair of devil horns. The
hooligan who stole the manger from Southborough, MA left the
surrounding secular decorations standing."
Donohue continued, "In Sioux Falls, SD, someone crushed the face of the
statue of Jesus. What's worse, the creep in Des Moines, IA burned
Jesus' face, doused the statue with red nail polish, and twisted the
electrical cord around its neck."
Commenting Wednesday on the tradition of nativity scenes, Pope Benedict
XVI said, "In a few days it will be Christmas, and I imagine that, in
your homes, you are putting the final touches to your nativity scenes,
which are such an evocative depiction of Christmas. I hope that this
important element, not only of our spirituality but also of our culture
and art, may endure as a simple and eloquent way to remember the One
Who came 'to dwell among us'."
See related coverage:
Nativity Scenes Vandalized in Three Major Canadian Cities - Montreal,
Ottawa, Toronto
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06122003.html
Nativity Scene Stolen by Abortion Clinic Worker Returned by Police
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121501.html
New York Village Would Rather Remove 9-Foot Menorah than Allow Nativity
Scene
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06122004.html
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