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"maff" |
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29 Apr 2005 06:26:28 AM |
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Vatican - Terrorist state |
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR2005042801665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority. Eight
million others worship in illegal underground churches that have
defied the Communist Party by remaining loyal to the pope.
Vatican
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/e5aca37471b6fc88
Is the wakening giant a monster?
http://tinyurl.com/iws6
A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f
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| User: "Carlque" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican - Terrorist state |
29 Apr 2005 12:19:30 PM |
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"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:18510aff.0504290326.36d34fa3@posting.google.com...
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR2005042801665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority. Eight
million others worship in illegal underground churches that have
defied the Communist Party by remaining loyal to the pope.
Looks like history repeating itself. The "illegal underground churches"
persecuted by the ancient pagan Rome has now become the present Church of
Rome. You wonder why China is scared?
Vatican
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/e5aca37471b6fc88
Is the wakening giant a monster?
http://tinyurl.com/iws6
A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican - Terrorist state |
29 Apr 2005 03:05:46 PM |
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Carlque wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:18510aff.0504290326.36d34fa3@posting.google.com...
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR2005042801665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority.
Eight
million others worship in illegal underground churches that have
defied the Communist Party by remaining loyal to the pope.
Looks like history repeating itself. The "illegal underground
churches"
persecuted by the ancient pagan Rome has now become the present
Church of
Rome. You wonder why China is scared?
Why would China be afraid of 5 million Catholics? Did you know China's
population is about 1.2 billion? Most are Daoists, Confucianists and
Buddhists. You must be thinking of Africa and the Americas where
Vatican fascists destroyed their religion and culture.
We know about your installation of puppet Catholic Diem in a
predominantly Buddhist country and the killing of 3 million or so
Buddhist Vietnamese.
Cardinal Spellman
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d47e3ec030bae2ba
Vatican
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/e5aca37471b6fc88
Is the wakening giant a monster?
http://tinyurl.com/iws6
A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican - Terrorist state |
29 Apr 2005 12:37:23 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:19:30 -0400, "Carlque" <cqabug@idirect.com>
wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:18510aff.0504290326.36d34fa3@posting.google.com...
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR2005042801665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority. Eight
million others worship in illegal underground churches that have
defied the Communist Party by remaining loyal to the pope.
Looks like history repeating itself. The "illegal underground churches"
persecuted by the ancient pagan Rome has now become the present Church of
Rome. You wonder why China is scared?
Bwaaaaaaaaahahahahaha.........
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican - Terrorist state |
29 Apr 2005 09:58:10 AM |
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In article <18510aff.0504290326.36d34fa3@posting.google.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR2005042801665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority. ...
• They probably got the idea from cafeteria Catholics in the U. S.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "IKnowMoreThanYou" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican - Terrorist state |
29 Apr 2005 10:52:40 AM |
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=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <18510aff.0504290326.36d34fa3@posting.google.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR200504280=
1665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority. ...
=B7 They probably got the idea from cafeteria Catholics in the U. S.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
No, probably from the old state sanctioned version of the Russian
Orthodox Church of the former USSR.
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| User: "•R.L.Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican - Terrorist state |
29 Apr 2005 11:51:26 AM |
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In article <1114789960.524951.260640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"IKnowMoreThanYou" <iknow_morethanyou@hotmail.com> wrote:
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <18510aff.0504290326.36d34fa3@posting.google.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR200504280=
1665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority. ...
=B7 They probably got the idea from cafeteria Catholics in the U. S.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
No, probably from the old state sanctioned version of the Russian
Orthodox Church of the former USSR.
^^^ could be.
--
€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican - Terrorist state |
29 Apr 2005 12:19:55 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:51:26 -0700 in alt.atheism, •R.L.Measures
(r_@somis.org (•R.L.Measures)) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
In article <1114789960.524951.260640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"IKnowMoreThanYou" <iknow_morethanyou@hotmail.com> wrote:
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <18510aff.0504290326.36d34fa3@posting.google.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR200504280=
1665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority. ...
=B7 They probably got the idea from cafeteria Catholics in the U. S.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
No, probably from the old state sanctioned version of the Russian
Orthodox Church of the former USSR.
^^^ could be.
If we're talking state sanctioned Churches, what about the C of E,
which has any Marxist state church beaten by centuries!
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican - Terrorist state |
29 Apr 2005 04:15:42 PM |
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In article <b4r471dq58i0nj1s243i949p6a2hbjs0vb@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:51:26 -0700 in alt.atheism, •R.L.Measures
(r_@somis.org (•R.L.Measures)) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
In article <1114789960.524951.260640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"IKnowMoreThanYou" <iknow_morethanyou@hotmail.com> wrote:
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <18510aff.0504290326.36d34fa3@posting.google.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR200504280=
1665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority. ...
=B7 They probably got the idea from cafeteria Catholics in the U. S.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
No, probably from the old state sanctioned version of the Russian
Orthodox Church of the former USSR.
^^^ could be.
If we're talking state sanctioned Churches, what about the C of E,
which has any Marxist state church beaten by centuries!
• Church of England?
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican - Terrorist state |
29 Apr 2005 04:26:21 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:15:42 -0700 in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, • R. L. Measures (_r@somis.org
(• R. L. Measures)) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
In article <b4r471dq58i0nj1s243i949p6a2hbjs0vb@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:51:26 -0700 in alt.atheism, •R.L.Measures
(r_@somis.org (•R.L.Measures)) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
In article <1114789960.524951.260640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"IKnowMoreThanYou" <iknow_morethanyou@hotmail.com> wrote:
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <18510aff.0504290326.36d34fa3@posting.google.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR200504280=
1665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority. ...
=B7 They probably got the idea from cafeteria Catholics in the U. S.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
No, probably from the old state sanctioned version of the Russian
Orthodox Church of the former USSR.
^^^ could be.
If we're talking state sanctioned Churches, what about the C of E,
which has any Marxist state church beaten by centuries!
• Church of England?
Indeed!
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican - Terrorist state |
29 Apr 2005 07:44:39 AM |
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On 29 Apr 2005 04:26:28 -0700, (maff) wrote:
Up From the Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR2005042801665_pf.html
Despite Official Scrutiny, China's Catholics Have Made Gains
By Philip P. Pan, Page A14
About 5 million Chinese Catholics belong to government-approved
"patriotic" churches that reject the Vatican's full authority. Eight
million others worship in illegal underground churches that have
defied the Communist Party by remaining loyal to the pope.
What "Vatican's full authority"? That only exists in the deluded
imagination of the Pope.
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