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"J Young" |
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10 Jul 2005 11:32:56 PM |
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Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
Abstinence is still the best policy, if you are in one of the risk
catagories. Can't catch anything if you aren't doing anything. It's by
far the most successful method of birth control; which is not such a
bad idea in Africa and parts of Asia. Healthier people, less people,
more food and less diseases to go around. That's a sound policy that
works and once again, the pontiff promotes life.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,1059068,00.html
Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids
The Catholic Church is telling people in countries stricken by Aids not
to use condoms because they have tiny holes in them through which HIV
can pass - potentially exposing thousands of people to risk.
The church is making the claims across four continents despite a
widespread scientific consensus that condoms are impermeable to HIV.
A senior Vatican spokesman backs the claims about permeable condoms,
despite assurances by the World Health Organisation that they are
untrue.
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| User: "ۥ R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
14 Jul 2005 10:11:30 AM |
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In article <%JjBe.3070$oZ.2362@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"ۥ R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"ۥ R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <xn%Ae.1039$Rv7.192@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, "Mike
Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
?. R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <db1fo0$7et$8@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote
Stop projecting your character flaws into everyone else.
"Illicit sex" is a personal judgement call - you do NOT get to
decide for *other* people what constitutes "illicit sex".
Susan
Superficially it seems like sexual morality is in chaos, with
widely
varying views about what does and does not consitute acceptable
behaviour.
Actually if you dig down you'll see that there is a fair amount
of
consensus. Episcopalians in favour of gay bishops talk a lot
about
"committed homosexual relationships" but no one else takes this
seriously. People talk about divorce being better for the kids
and
about loving step families, but it is rare for a stepfather to
put
a
step child through college (in the US), it is rare for the
stepchild
not to be bitter about not having two natural parents.
You might think that the exception is contraception. But liberal
activists threw condoms at a Catholic speaker once (I think the
debate was about abortion, can't remember).
. Act Up protestors tossed condoms about in New York City's St
Patrick's Cathedral partly because Archbishop John Cardinal
O'Connor
blocked non-hetero New Yorkers from marching in the St. Patrick's
Day
parade. During the protest, O'Connor became visibly enraged.
This is an implict admission that condoms degrade
the sexual act.
. Condoms degrade, but STDs are destroyers.
Only if the sole purpose is sex and your pleasure.
Carrying enough to not send the very best can be an act of love.
** ??
Interpreter!!
• The sentences: "Only if the sole purpose is sex and your pleasure.
Carrying enough to not send the very best can be an act of love." is
not
determinate.
LOL! I read that a couple of times and still don't know what he/she was
trying to say.
• Indeed. Perhaps some higher power will help us to decrypt it?
I find that my concernometer isn't registering at a high enough number. :c)
chortle
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
12 Jul 2005 08:36:17 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote
Stop projecting your character flaws into everyone else.
"Illicit sex" is a personal judgement call - you do NOT get to decide for
*other* people what constitutes "illicit sex".
Hey Stu - butt out.
I'm not tied into expressions like you homos. I can paraphrase. If you don't
like the term "illicit sex", I'll say "sex outside of marriage".
Ain't about words - it's about actions.
BAM
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
12 Jul 2005 07:13:17 PM |
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in article OGPAe.93008$du.20398@bignews1.bellsouth.net, bam at
mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net wrote on 7/12/05 9:36 AM:
"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote
Stop projecting your character flaws into everyone else.
"Illicit sex" is a personal judgement call - you do NOT get to decide for
*other* people what constitutes "illicit sex".
Hey Stu - butt out.
I'm not tied into expressions like you homos. I can paraphrase. If you don't
like the term "illicit sex", I'll say "sex outside of marriage".
Ain't about words - it's about actions.
Which YOU'LL never get to enjoy...
Paul
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| User: "Mickey" |
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12 Jul 2005 07:23:00 PM |
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"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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in article OGPAe.93008$du.20398@bignews1.bellsouth.net, bam at
mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net wrote on 7/12/05 9:36 AM:
"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote
Stop projecting your character flaws into everyone else.
"Illicit sex" is a personal judgement call - you do NOT get to decide
for
*other* people what constitutes "illicit sex".
Hey Stu - butt out.
I'm not tied into expressions like you homos. I can paraphrase. If you
don't
like the term "illicit sex", I'll say "sex outside of marriage".
Ain't about words - it's about actions.
Which YOU'LL never get to enjoy...
*****, I would have made a TERRIBLE Catholic. Before my wife reigned me in, I
was a hound dog. I couldn't guess how many correctly within an order of
magnitude.
Mickey
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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12 Jul 2005 07:35:54 PM |
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in article qZqdnZlvFtd1w0nfRVn-2Q@comcast.com, Mickey at
wrote on 7/12/05 8:23 PM:
"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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in article OGPAe.93008$du.20398@bignews1.bellsouth.net, bam at
mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net wrote on 7/12/05 9:36 AM:
"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote
Stop projecting your character flaws into everyone else.
"Illicit sex" is a personal judgement call - you do NOT get to decide
for
*other* people what constitutes "illicit sex".
Hey Stu - butt out.
I'm not tied into expressions like you homos. I can paraphrase. If you
don't
like the term "illicit sex", I'll say "sex outside of marriage".
Ain't about words - it's about actions.
Which YOU'LL never get to enjoy...
*****, I would have made a TERRIBLE Catholic. Before my wife reigned me in, I
was a hound dog. I couldn't guess how many correctly within an order of
magnitude.
Careful...that's going to make Bam even MORE jealous and resentful
of you--his mommy must have cut his off (psycholocically) before she got him
out of diapers.
Paul
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
12 Jul 2005 07:46:56 PM |
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"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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in article qZqdnZlvFtd1w0nfRVn-2Q@comcast.com, Mickey at
mickeyb@comcast.net
wrote on 7/12/05 8:23 PM:
"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:BEF9D4DD.96C7%p.duca@comcast.net...
in article OGPAe.93008$du.20398@bignews1.bellsouth.net, bam at
mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net wrote on 7/12/05 9:36 AM:
"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote
Stop projecting your character flaws into everyone else.
"Illicit sex" is a personal judgement call - you do NOT get to decide
for
*other* people what constitutes "illicit sex".
Hey Stu - butt out.
I'm not tied into expressions like you homos. I can paraphrase. If you
don't
like the term "illicit sex", I'll say "sex outside of marriage".
Ain't about words - it's about actions.
Which YOU'LL never get to enjoy...
*****, I would have made a TERRIBLE Catholic. Before my wife reigned me
in, I
was a hound dog. I couldn't guess how many correctly within an order of
magnitude.
Careful...that's going to make Bam even MORE jealous and resentful
of you--his mommy must have cut his off (psycholocically) before she got
him
out of diapers.
Who knows, she may have been one of the many :)
Mickey
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| User: "Matty" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
14 Jul 2005 12:14:56 AM |
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On 2005-07-13 01:25:27 +1200, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> said:
"Matty" <kaiwai.gardiner$NOSPAM$@g$NOSPAM$mail.com> wrote in message
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On 2005-07-12 01:34:19 +1200, "bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> said:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:32:56 -0700, J Young wrote:
Abstinence is still the best policy, if you are in one of the risk
I don't suppose it occurs to them that abstinence has a much higher
failure rate than any other method of AIDS prevention, for the simple
reason that people forget to use it!
A person might fail in abstinence now and then. But once he puts on the
rubber, he has no intention of ever stopping.
But this is a ridiculous argument. Any doctor will tell you the same
thing. Condoms do not make illicit sex 100% safe.
BAM
But then again, if a person is having illicit sex, the issue isn't so
much the sex but WHY they are - you'll find that those who feel the
need to have illicit sex seem to have some deep seated need that they
think they can fill by having sex with different people; the fact
remains, however, they'll remain hollo until they get to the root cause
of it.
Stop projecting your character flaws into everyone else.
"Illicit sex" is a personal judgement call - you do NOT get to decide
for *other* people what constitutes "illicit sex".
Correct; one mans illicit sex is another mans prudishness.
Susan, could you also show some restraint, there is no need to act like
a spoilt, attention seeking brat.
Matt
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| User: "Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
12 Jul 2005 09:20:16 AM |
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Matty wrote:
But then again, if a person is having illicit sex, the issue isn't so
much the sex but WHY they are - you'll find that those who feel the need
to have illicit sex seem to have some deep seated need that they think
they can fill by having sex with different people; the fact remains,
however, they'll remain hollo until they get to the root cause of it.
Can you define what you mean by "illicit sex" please? I got no answer
from the moron when I asked, just rudeness.
I'd just like to know what you're talking about.
Matty
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| User: "Matty" |
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14 Jul 2005 12:24:50 AM |
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On 2005-07-13 02:20:16 +1200, Martin <martin_nospam@btinternet.com> said:
Matty wrote:
But then again, if a person is having illicit sex, the issue isn't so
much the sex but WHY they are - you'll find that those who feel the
need to have illicit sex seem to have some deep seated need that they
think they can fill by having sex with different people; the fact
remains, however, they'll remain hollo until they get to the root cause
of it.
Can you define what you mean by "illicit sex" please? I got no answer
from the moron when I asked, just rudeness.
I'd just like to know what you're talking about.
Well, when I read 'illicit sex', I assumed, 'unprotected, promiscuous sex".
Maybe the original poster of the thread can inform the group what he
meant by illicit.
Matty
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| User: "Martin" |
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14 Jul 2005 02:52:07 AM |
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Matty wrote:
On 2005-07-13 02:20:16 +1200, Martin <martin_nospam@btinternet.com> said:
Matty wrote:
But then again, if a person is having illicit sex, the issue isn't so
much the sex but WHY they are - you'll find that those who feel the
need to have illicit sex seem to have some deep seated need that they
think they can fill by having sex with different people; the fact
remains, however, they'll remain hollo until they get to the root
cause of it.
Can you define what you mean by "illicit sex" please? I got no answer
from the moron when I asked, just rudeness.
I'd just like to know what you're talking about.
Well, when I read 'illicit sex', I assumed, 'unprotected, promiscuous sex".
Maybe the original poster of the thread can inform the group what he
meant by illicit.
I was supposing he was refering to the definition "contrary to accepted
morality". That's begging the question as to whose morality is going to
be the yardstick (metre rule?).
From your example, how often do you need to have "unprotected,
promiscuous sex" and with how many people for it to be against accepted
morality? Is it once a year? 10 times/year?
Matty
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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11 Jul 2005 08:40:04 AM |
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:34:19 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.11.11.48.50.891098@stopspam.net...
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:32:56 -0700, J Young wrote:
Abstinence is still the best policy, if you are in one of the risk
I don't suppose it occurs to them that abstinence has a much higher
failure rate than any other method of AIDS prevention, for the simple
reason that people forget to use it!
A person might fail in abstinence now and then. But once he puts on the
rubber, he has no intention of ever stopping.
But this is a ridiculous argument. Any doctor will tell you the same thing.
Condoms do not make illicit sex 100% safe.
When is you church going to admit that people have sex whatever the
church says?
BAM
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| User: "Mickey" |
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11 Jul 2005 08:46:39 AM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:34:19 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.11.11.48.50.891098@stopspam.net...
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:32:56 -0700, J Young wrote:
Abstinence is still the best policy, if you are in one of the risk
I don't suppose it occurs to them that abstinence has a much higher
failure rate than any other method of AIDS prevention, for the simple
reason that people forget to use it!
A person might fail in abstinence now and then. But once he puts on the
rubber, he has no intention of ever stopping.
But this is a ridiculous argument. Any doctor will tell you the same
thing.
Condoms do not make illicit sex 100% safe.
When is you church going to admit that people have sex whatever the
church says?
Seeing as how it took them 400 years to admit that the earth revolves around
the sun, I wouldn't be holding my breath on this one :)
Mickey
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| User: "bam" |
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11 Jul 2005 10:51:38 AM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:34:19 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.11.11.48.50.891098@stopspam.net...
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:32:56 -0700, J Young wrote:
Abstinence is still the best policy, if you are in one of the risk
I don't suppose it occurs to them that abstinence has a much higher
failure rate than any other method of AIDS prevention, for the simple
reason that people forget to use it!
A person might fail in abstinence now and then. But once he puts on the
rubber, he has no intention of ever stopping.
But this is a ridiculous argument. Any doctor will tell you the same
thing.
Condoms do not make illicit sex 100% safe.
When is you church going to admit that people have sex whatever the
church says?
Seeing as how it took them 400 years to admit that the earth revolves
around
the sun, I wouldn't be holding my breath on this one :)
You know nothing.
BAM
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| User: "Mickey" |
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11 Jul 2005 11:49:23 AM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:34:19 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.11.11.48.50.891098@stopspam.net...
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:32:56 -0700, J Young wrote:
Abstinence is still the best policy, if you are in one of the risk
I don't suppose it occurs to them that abstinence has a much higher
failure rate than any other method of AIDS prevention, for the
simple
reason that people forget to use it!
A person might fail in abstinence now and then. But once he puts on
the
rubber, he has no intention of ever stopping.
But this is a ridiculous argument. Any doctor will tell you the same
thing.
Condoms do not make illicit sex 100% safe.
When is you church going to admit that people have sex whatever the
church says?
Seeing as how it took them 400 years to admit that the earth revolves
around
the sun, I wouldn't be holding my breath on this one :)
You know nothing.
Translation: You aren't Catholic, so you won't sing along with me, so I have
to dismiss you before you make a fool of me
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| User: "bam" |
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11 Jul 2005 12:05:55 PM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:34:19 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.11.11.48.50.891098@stopspam.net...
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:32:56 -0700, J Young wrote:
Abstinence is still the best policy, if you are in one of the risk
I don't suppose it occurs to them that abstinence has a much higher
failure rate than any other method of AIDS prevention, for the
simple
reason that people forget to use it!
A person might fail in abstinence now and then. But once he puts on
the
rubber, he has no intention of ever stopping.
But this is a ridiculous argument. Any doctor will tell you the same
thing.
Condoms do not make illicit sex 100% safe.
When is you church going to admit that people have sex whatever the
church says?
Seeing as how it took them 400 years to admit that the earth revolves
around
the sun, I wouldn't be holding my breath on this one :)
You know nothing.
Translation: You aren't Catholic, so you won't sing along with me, so I
have
to dismiss you before you make a fool of me
You're a dope.
BAM
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| User: "Mickey" |
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11 Jul 2005 12:12:44 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:34:19 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.11.11.48.50.891098@stopspam.net...
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:32:56 -0700, J Young wrote:
Abstinence is still the best policy, if you are in one of the
risk
I don't suppose it occurs to them that abstinence has a much
higher
failure rate than any other method of AIDS prevention, for the
simple
reason that people forget to use it!
A person might fail in abstinence now and then. But once he puts on
the
rubber, he has no intention of ever stopping.
But this is a ridiculous argument. Any doctor will tell you the
same
thing.
Condoms do not make illicit sex 100% safe.
When is you church going to admit that people have sex whatever the
church says?
Seeing as how it took them 400 years to admit that the earth revolves
around
the sun, I wouldn't be holding my breath on this one :)
You know nothing.
Translation: You aren't Catholic, so you won't sing along with me, so I
have
to dismiss you before you make a fool of me
You're a dope.
Coming from a religious fanatic and fool, that's a hearty compliment
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| User: "One with Christ" |
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11 Jul 2005 12:25:27 PM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Coming from a religious fanatic and fool, that's a hearty compliment
Don't you love America? Aren't you the least bit patriotic?
As America is a Christian nation, accept Christ and become
an American!
Isn't that amazing? If you want to join the greatest nation on
Earth, all you have to do is reward yourself with the everlasting
joys of Heaven!
Deny Satan. Deny Hell. Turn your back on an eternity of burning
in the fires of Hell and become an American.
Accept Christ.
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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11 Jul 2005 12:21:38 PM |
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"One with Christ" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:tcadnX0ngdrXNE_fRVn-vg@comcast.com:
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Coming from a religious fanatic and fool, that's a hearty compliment
Don't you love America? Aren't you the least bit patriotic?
As America is a Christian nation, accept Christ and become
an American!
Isn't that amazing? If you want to join the greatest nation on
Earth, all you have to do is reward yourself with the everlasting
joys of Heaven!
Deny Satan. Deny Hell. Turn your back on an eternity of burning
in the fires of Hell and become an American.
Accept Christ.
Anything the requires me to resemble you in even the smallest way is no-
go.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so."
-- Mark Twain
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
11 Jul 2005 12:22:35 PM |
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"One with Christ" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Coming from a religious fanatic and fool, that's a hearty compliment
Troll
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
12 Jul 2005 10:00:06 AM |
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"One with Christ" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Coming from a religious fanatic and fool, that's a hearty compliment
Don't you love America? Aren't you the least bit patriotic?
As America is a Christian nation, accept Christ and become
an American!
Isn't that amazing? If you want to join the greatest nation on
Earth, all you have to do is reward yourself with the everlasting
joys of Heaven!
Deny Satan. Deny Hell. Turn your back on an eternity of burning
in the fires of Hell and become an American.
Accept Christ.
are you being ironic?
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
12 Jul 2005 10:07:17 AM |
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
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"One with Christ" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Coming from a religious fanatic and fool, that's a hearty compliment
Don't you love America? Aren't you the least bit patriotic?
As America is a Christian nation, accept Christ and become
an American!
Isn't that amazing? If you want to join the greatest nation on
Earth, all you have to do is reward yourself with the everlasting
joys of Heaven!
Deny Satan. Deny Hell. Turn your back on an eternity of burning
in the fires of Hell and become an American.
Accept Christ.
are you being ironic?
He's a troll best sent to the kill file
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
12 Jul 2005 10:12:50 AM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
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"One with Christ" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Coming from a religious fanatic and fool, that's a hearty compliment
Don't you love America? Aren't you the least bit patriotic?
As America is a Christian nation, accept Christ and become
an American!
Isn't that amazing? If you want to join the greatest nation on
Earth, all you have to do is reward yourself with the everlasting
joys of Heaven!
Deny Satan. Deny Hell. Turn your back on an eternity of burning
in the fires of Hell and become an American.
Accept Christ.
are you being ironic?
He's a troll best sent to the kill file
a troll or totally off his trolley
or both I suppose
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
12 Jul 2005 10:16:33 AM |
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
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"One with Christ" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Coming from a religious fanatic and fool, that's a hearty compliment
Don't you love America? Aren't you the least bit patriotic?
As America is a Christian nation, accept Christ and become
an American!
Isn't that amazing? If you want to join the greatest nation on
Earth, all you have to do is reward yourself with the everlasting
joys of Heaven!
Deny Satan. Deny Hell. Turn your back on an eternity of burning
in the fires of Hell and become an American.
Accept Christ.
are you being ironic?
He's a troll best sent to the kill file
a troll or totally off his trolley
or both I suppose
Any and all of which qualify him for the virtual garbage bin.
Mickey
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
14 Jul 2005 03:00:42 AM |
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On 2005-07-11 10:25:27 -0700, "One with Christ" <gymraven@hotmail.com> said:
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Coming from a religious fanatic and fool, that's a hearty compliment
Don't you love America? Aren't you the least bit patriotic?
As America is a Christian nation, accept Christ and become
an American!
Isn't that amazing? If you want to join the greatest nation on
Earth, all you have to do is reward yourself with the everlasting
joys of Heaven!
Deny Satan. Deny Hell. Turn your back on an eternity of burning
in the fires of Hell and become an American.
Accept Christ.
This spoof is rather old.
--
GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
"Genocide is used sparingly by God in only extreme circumstances." -Jim Spaza
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
11 Jul 2005 09:33:01 PM |
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in article tcadnX0ngdrXNE_fRVn-vg@comcast.com, One with Christ at
gymraven@hotmail.com wrote on 7/11/05 1:25 PM:
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Coming from a religious fanatic and fool, that's a hearty compliment
Don't you love America? Aren't you the least bit patriotic?
As America is a Christian nation, accept Christ and become
an American!
Not unless a LARGE sum of money is placed up front...no
pie-in-the-sky crap.
Paul
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
11 Jul 2005 04:09:18 PM |
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It is you who know nothing!
Keep your fucking beliefs to yourself!
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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: "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
: news:x_adnZk5wqbd5U_fRVn-ug@comcast.com...
: > "Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
: > news:rjt4d1p9cahek60hae1svpju0cdti98kr0@4ax.com...
: >> On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:34:19 -0400, "bam"
: >> <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
: >>
: >> >
: >> >"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
: >> >news:pan.2005.07.11.11.48.50.891098@stopspam.net...
: >> >> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:32:56 -0700, J Young wrote:
: >> >>
: >> >>> Abstinence is still the best policy, if you are in one of the
risk
: >> >>
: >> >> I don't suppose it occurs to them that abstinence has a much
higher
: >> >> failure rate than any other method of AIDS prevention, for the
simple
: >> >> reason that people forget to use it!
: >> >
: >> >A person might fail in abstinence now and then. But once he puts
on the
: >> >rubber, he has no intention of ever stopping.
: >> >
: >> >But this is a ridiculous argument. Any doctor will tell you the
same
: > thing.
: >> >Condoms do not make illicit sex 100% safe.
: >>
: >> When is you church going to admit that people have sex whatever the
: >> church says?
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: > Seeing as how it took them 400 years to admit that the earth
revolves
: > around
: > the sun, I wouldn't be holding my breath on this one :)
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: You know nothing.
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: BAM
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
11 Jul 2005 10:51:15 AM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:34:19 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.11.11.48.50.891098@stopspam.net...
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:32:56 -0700, J Young wrote:
Abstinence is still the best policy, if you are in one of the risk
I don't suppose it occurs to them that abstinence has a much higher
failure rate than any other method of AIDS prevention, for the simple
reason that people forget to use it!
A person might fail in abstinence now and then. But once he puts on the
rubber, he has no intention of ever stopping.
But this is a ridiculous argument. Any doctor will tell you the same
thing.
Condoms do not make illicit sex 100% safe.
When is you church going to admit that people have sex whatever the
church says?
Who are you to question or even care about Church teachings? You probably
don't even believe that Jesus rose from the dead.
BAM
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
11 Jul 2005 05:43:32 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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When is you church going to admit that people have sex whatever the
church says?
Who are you to question or even care about Church teachings? You probably
don't even believe that Jesus rose from the dead.
BAM
What does people having sex have to do with someone rising from the dead??
Is there something about yourself that you're not telling us Bam? Little
midnight trips to the mortuary perhaps?
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
22 Jul 2005 09:02:36 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote
When is you church going to admit that people have sex whatever the
church says?
Who are you to question or even care about Church teachings? You probably
don't even believe that Jesus rose from the dead.
BAM
What does people having sex have to do with someone rising from the dead??
Is there something about yourself that you're not telling us Bam? Little
midnight trips to the mortuary perhaps?
I know this will give your brain a real tough workout, but the Church has
teachings about sex, and the Church has teachings about the Resurrection.
So why would someone expect you to agree with the Church on sexual matters,
when you don't even believe in Jesus Christ?
Get the point - numbskull?
BAM
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| User: "maf 1029" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids |
22 Jul 2005 11:23:48 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:02:36 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
Get the point - numbskull?
"You know they're just dupes trying to rectify a false conscience like
yourself."--- guess who wrote that?
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