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"L. Raymond" |
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17 Nov 2006 02:23:00 AM |
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Vatican redefines "welcoming" |
This is the weirdest example of being open-minded I've ever seen.
Excerpted from
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/religion/4332921.html
BALTIMORE ¡X The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is debating how
parishes can be welcoming to gays while also upholding the teaching that
gay relationships are "disordered."
The proposed guidelines before the bishops today, called "Ministry to
Persons with a Homosexual Inclination," condemn discrimination against
gays, acknowledge that many try to live faithfully and state that it's
not a sin to be attracted to someone of the same gender.
But the document also directs gays to be celibate and reaffirms church
opposition to same-sex marriage and adoption by the couples. It also
discourages gays from disclosing their sexual orientation outside of a
close circle of parish friends and advisers.
"I think the whole tenor of the document is trying to be more welcoming
than condemning," said Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Paterson, N.J.,
chairman of the bishops' doctrine committee.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican redefines "welcoming" |
18 Nov 2006 01:06:23 AM |
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In article <6rlgxfi3gdar.voghncvnehgp.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
This is the weirdest example of being open-minded I've ever seen.
Excerpted from
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/religion/4332921.html
BALTIMORE °X The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is debating how
parishes can be welcoming to gays while also upholding the teaching that
gay relationships are "disordered."
That's nice. "You people can come in even if you are 'disordered'."
The proposed guidelines before the bishops today, called "Ministry to
Persons with a Homosexual Inclination," condemn discrimination against
gays, acknowledge that many try to live faithfully and state that it's
not a sin to be attracted to someone of the same gender.
But the document also directs gays to be celibate and reaffirms church
opposition to same-sex marriage and adoption by the couples. It also
discourages gays from disclosing their sexual orientation outside of a
close circle of parish friends and advisers.
So now the RCC is "don't ask, don't tell" too?
"I think the whole tenor of the document is trying to be more welcoming
than condemning," said Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Paterson, N.J.,
chairman of the bishops' doctrine committee.
Nothing about priestly pedophiles?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican redefines "welcoming" |
18 Nov 2006 10:14:09 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:06:23 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <6rlgxfi3gdar.voghncvnehgp.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
But the document also directs gays to be celibate and reaffirms church
opposition to same-sex marriage and adoption by the couples. It also
discourages gays from disclosing their sexual orientation outside of a
close circle of parish friends and advisers.
So now the RCC is "don't ask, don't tell" too?
"Don't ask, only tell a priest - others don't need to get their
jollies".
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rukbat at optonline dot net
Is he willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Whence then comes evil?
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican redefines "welcoming" |
18 Nov 2006 11:47:50 PM |
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In article <uemvl2pd7520ik40a8hfhn6vsspi6b01ob@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:06:23 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <6rlgxfi3gdar.voghncvnehgp.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
But the document also directs gays to be celibate and reaffirms church
opposition to same-sex marriage and adoption by the couples. It also
discourages gays from disclosing their sexual orientation outside of a
close circle of parish friends and advisers.
So now the RCC is "don't ask, don't tell" too?
"Don't ask, only tell a priest - others don't need to get their
jollies".
What's a sin for others is apparently a sacrament for the priests.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican redefines "welcoming" |
18 Nov 2006 01:32:18 AM |
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johac wrote:
"L. Raymond" wrote:
"I think the whole tenor of the document is trying to be more welcoming
than condemning," said Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Paterson, N.J.,
chairman of the bishops' doctrine committee.
Nothing about priestly pedophiles?
Not form the American conference, but the Vatican just reaffirmed its
commitment to a celibate priesthood, so I'm sure there will be many more
pedophiles to come.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican redefines "welcoming" |
18 Nov 2006 10:15:04 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 01:32:18 -0600, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
"L. Raymond" wrote:
"I think the whole tenor of the document is trying to be more welcoming
than condemning," said Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Paterson, N.J.,
chairman of the bishops' doctrine committee.
Nothing about priestly pedophiles?
Not form the American conference, but the Vatican just reaffirmed its
commitment to a celibate priesthood, so I'm sure there will be many more
pedophiles to come.
"Celibate" means "if you MUST do it, make sure it's with a young altar
boy".
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rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an
old religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
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