Religions > Atheism > VETERAN CBS ANCHOR reportedly admitted for "Exhaustion Psychiatric observation"
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11 Sep 2004 09:42:29 PM |
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VETERAN CBS ANCHOR reportedly admitted for "Exhaustion Psychiatric observation" |
www.drudgereport.com/ratheradmitted.jsp
RATHER: IN PERSONAL CRISIS
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6127704
VETERAN CBS ANCHOR admitted for "Exhaustion"
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6127704
"RATHER BROKEN"
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/NotedNow/Noted_Now.html
CBS ANCHOR DAN RATHER ROCKED BY CREDIBILITY BOMBSHELL
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationalpolitics/2002032742_bushguard11.html
"Reportedly being heavily medicated for depression anxiety"
RATHER'S REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED:
Dan Rather reportedly admitted to local Psych Facility that specializes in
the treatment of individuals who are in personal crisis, or suffering from
other emotional trauma ranging from severe exhaustion to suicidal behavior.
"Exhaustion" was the reason for admission given by a Rather spokesperson,
speaking strictly off record. Daniel Irvin Rather was born October 31, 1931
In a related story, the Nation's foremost authority and top analyst of
computer-generated documents.William Flynn pro-claimed the documents to be
fraudulent and that Rather and the CBS staff had been duped.
"These sure look like forgeries," said William Flynn, a forensic document
expert widely considered the nation's top analyst of computer-generated
documents. Flynn looked at copies of the documents posted on the CBS News
website. "I would say it looks very likely that these documents could not
have existed" in the early 1970s, he says, when they were allegedly written.
Rather is likely under what we call 48 hour watch, where he is accompanied
at all times by a caregiver that can prevent him from harming himself or
others during this critical time. Counselors are available during this time
and Family members are discouraged from visiting during this period.
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11 Sep 2004 10:04:40 PM |
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"Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh" <RVtherfordT@The_blinding_light_of_TrVth.com>
wrote in message news:fIqdnexOXr4KKt7cRVn-jA@gwi.net...
Bush will lose because of liars like you.
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12 Sep 2004 04:01:09 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:04:40 -0700, Shrubya in Troubya! wrote:
"Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh" <RVtherfordT@The_blinding_light_of_TrVth.com>
wrote in message news:fIqdnexOXr4KKt7cRVn-jA@gwi.net...
Bush will lose because of liars like you.
Bush will win because of liars like him.
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| User: "John" |
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11 Sep 2004 09:47:11 PM |
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Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh wrote:
www.drudgereport.com/ratheradmitted.jsp
RATHER: IN PERSONAL CRISIS
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6127704
VETERAN CBS ANCHOR admitted for "Exhaustion"
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6127704
"RATHER BROKEN"
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/NotedNow/Noted_Now.html
CBS ANCHOR DAN RATHER ROCKED BY CREDIBILITY BOMBSHELL
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationalpolitics/2002032742_bushguard11.html
"Reportedly being heavily medicated for depression anxiety"
STUPID IGNORANT MORON. You LIED. Just going to each of the links
proves that.
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| User: "Capn RVtherford T TrVTh" |
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11 Sep 2004 09:54:03 PM |
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"John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:10k7e5dgn0q2h94@news.supernews.com...
Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh wrote:
www.drudgereport.com/ratheradmitted.jsp
RATHER: IN PERSONAL CRISIS
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6127704
VETERAN CBS ANCHOR admitted for "Exhaustion"
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6127704
"RATHER BROKEN"
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/NotedNow/Noted_Now.html
CBS ANCHOR DAN RATHER ROCKED BY CREDIBILITY BOMBSHELL
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationalpolitics/2002032742_bushguard11.html
"Reportedly being heavily medicated for depression anxiety"
STUPID IGNORANT MORON. You LIED. Just going to each of the links
proves that.
Heh.. He clicked the links ;>
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| User: "Senor Chico" |
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11 Sep 2004 10:06:50 PM |
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"Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh" <RVtherfordT@The_blinding_light_of_TrVth.com>
wrote in message news:Dt6dnQ64TKbSJ97cRVn-qg@gwi.net...
"John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:10k7e5dgn0q2h94@news.supernews.com...
Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh wrote:
www.drudgereport.com/ratheradmitted.jsp
RATHER: IN PERSONAL CRISIS
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6127704
VETERAN CBS ANCHOR admitted for "Exhaustion"
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6127704
"RATHER BROKEN"
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/NotedNow/Noted_Now.html
CBS ANCHOR DAN RATHER ROCKED BY CREDIBILITY BOMBSHELL
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationalpolitics/2002032742_bushguard11.html
"Reportedly being heavily medicated for depression anxiety"
STUPID IGNORANT MORON. You LIED. Just going to each of the links
proves that.
Heh.. He clicked the links ;>
There's one born every minute...
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| User: "Clave" |
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11 Sep 2004 10:31:28 PM |
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"Senor Chico" <SenorChico@Byetme.org> wrote in message
news:Q1P0d.51892$Np2.41545@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
"Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh" <RVtherfordT@The_blinding_light_of_TrVth.com>
wrote in message news:Dt6dnQ64TKbSJ97cRVn-qg@gwi.net...
"John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:10k7e5dgn0q2h94@news.supernews.com...
Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh wrote:
www.drudgereport.com/ratheradmitted.jsp
RATHER: IN PERSONAL CRISIS
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6127704
VETERAN CBS ANCHOR admitted for "Exhaustion"
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6127704
"RATHER BROKEN"
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/NotedNow/Noted_Now.html
CBS ANCHOR DAN RATHER ROCKED BY CREDIBILITY BOMBSHELL
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationalpolitics/2002032742_bushguard11.html
"Reportedly being heavily medicated for depression anxiety"
STUPID IGNORANT MORON. You LIED. Just going to each of the links
proves that.
Heh.. He clicked the links ;>
There's one born every minute...
Not everyone knows what a degenerate liar Cap'n Jeffy is. Almost, but not quite
everyone.
Jim
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| User: "Capn RVtherford T TrVTh" |
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11 Sep 2004 11:24:15 PM |
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"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@CableSpeed.com> wrote in message
Not everyone knows what a degenerate liar Cap'n Jeffy is. Almost, but not
quite everyone.
Jim
Nancyboy, how come you failed to give your dissertation on Socialism?
You were just on the verge of making the claim that Socialistic aspects of
the U.S. Military PROVE that "Socialism" is Humanity's one great and last
chance for survival....
Whatever happened to that story? Sounded interesting.
C'mon, go for it... Let's see something original come out of your brain.
Come out on that limb just a little bit further Clammikens ;>
I'll pop in a Totino's and mix up some gravy-train with the warm
water, -just the way Daisy likes it.
It makes it's own broth you know?
-Cap'n TrVth
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| User: "Rafael Block" |
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12 Sep 2004 01:49:39 AM |
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Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh wrote:
"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@CableSpeed.com> wrote in message
Not everyone knows what a degenerate liar Cap'n Jeffy is. Almost, but not
quite everyone.
Jim
Nancyboy, how come you failed to give your dissertation on Socialism?
Your homophobia and repressed same-sex urges are pretty funny! No they're
not...they're sad and pathetic. How does it feel to be pathetic? I've never known
anyone who was pathetic. Of course, I don't hang around homophobic brain-dead
neocons much.
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| User: "Capn RVtherford T TrVTh" |
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12 Sep 2004 03:04:16 AM |
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"Rafael Block" <rafaelb@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7kS0d.1197$_G4.220@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh wrote:
"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@CableSpeed.com> wrote in message
Not everyone knows what a degenerate liar Cap'n Jeffy is. Almost, but
not
quite everyone.
Jim
Nancyboy, how come you failed to give your dissertation on Socialism?
Your homophobia and repressed same-sex urges are pretty funny! No they're
not...they're sad and pathetic. How does it feel to be pathetic? I've
never known anyone who was pathetic. Of course, I don't hang around
homophobic brain-dead neocons much.
Ahhh.. This explains much about Rafilthy... I had my suspicions.
ONE of the surest ways to get the phones ringing on any Massachusetts
talk-radio show is to ask people to call in and tell their John Kerry
stories. The phone lines are soon filled, and most of the stories have a
common theme: our junior senator pulling rank on one of his constituents,
breaking in line, demanding to pay less (or nothing) or ducking out before
the bill arrives.
The tales often have one other common thread. Most end with Sen. Kerry
inquiring of the lesser mortal: "Do you know who I am?"
And now he's running for president as a populist. His first wife came from a
Philadelphia Main Line family worth $300 million. His second wife is a
pickle-and-ketchup heiress.
Kerry lives in a mansion on Beacon Hill on which he has borrowed $6 million
to finance his campaign. A fire hydrant that prevented him and his wife from
parking their SUV in front of their tony digs was removed by the city of
Boston at his behest.
The Kerrys ski at a spa the widow Heinz owns in Aspen, and they summer on
Nantucket in a sprawling seaside "cottage" on Hurlbert Avenue, which is so
well-appointed that at a recent fund-raiser, they imported porta-toilets
onto the front lawn so the donors wouldn't use the inside bathrooms. (They
later claimed the decision was made on septic, not social, considerations).
It's a wonderful life these days for John Kerry. He sails Nantucket Sound in
"the Scaramouche," a 42-foot Hinckley powerboat. Martha Stewart has a
similar boat; the no-frills model reportedly starts at $695,000. Sen. Kerry
bought it new, for cash.
Every Tuesday night, the local politicians here that Kerry elbowed out of
his way on his march to the top watch, fascinated, as he claims victory in
more primaries and denounces the special interests, the "millionaires" and
"the overprivileged."
"His initials are JFK," longtime state Senate President William M. Bulger
used to muse on St. Patrick's Day, "Just for Kerry. He's only Irish every
sixth year." And now it turns out that he's not Irish at all.
But in the parochial world of Bay State politics, he was never really seen
as Irish, even when he was claiming to be (although now, of course, he says
that any references to his alleged Hibernian heritage were mistakenly put
into the Congressional Record by an aide who apparently didn't know that on
his paternal side he is, in fact, part-Jewish).
Kerry is, in fact, a Brahmin - his mother was a Forbes, from one of
Massachusetts' oldest WASP families. The ancestor who wed Ralph Waldo
Emerson's daughter was marrying down.
At the risk of engaging in ethnic stereotyping, Yankees have a reputation
for, shall we say, frugality. And Kerry tosses around quarters like they
were manhole covers. In 1993, for instance, living on a senator's salary of
about $100,000, he managed to give a total of $135 to charity.
Yet that same year, he was somehow able to scrape together $8,600 for a
brand-new, imported Italian motorcycle, a Ducati Paso 907 IE. He kept it for
years, until he decided to run for president, at which time he traded it in
for a Harley-Davidson like the one he rode onto "The Tonight Show" set a
couple of months ago as Jay Leno applauded his fellow Bay Stater.
Of course, in 1993 he was between his first and second heiresses - a time he
now calls "the wandering years," although an equally apt description might
be "the freeloading years."
For some of the time, he was, for all practical purposes, homeless. His
friends allowed him into a real-estate deal in which he flipped a condo for
quick resale, netting a $21,000 profit on a cash investment of exactly
nothing. For months he rode around in a new car supplied by a shady local
Buick dealer. When the dealer's ties to a congressman who was later indicted
for racketeering were exposed, Kerry quickly explained that the non-payment
was a mere oversight, and wrote out a check.
In the Senate, his record of his constituent services has been lackluster,
and most of his colleagues, despite their public support, are hard-pressed
to list an accomplishment. Just last fall, a Boston TV reporter ambushed
three congressmen with the question, name something John Kerry has
accomplished in Congress. After a few nervous giggles, two could think of
nothing, and a third mentioned a baseball field, and then misidentified
Kerry as "Sen. Kennedy."
Many of his constituents see him in person only when he is cutting them in
line - at an airport, a clam shack or the Registry of Motor Vehicles. One
talk-show caller a few weeks back recalled standing behind a police
barricade in 2002 as the Rolling Stones played the Orpheum Theater, a short
limousine ride from Kerry's Louisburg Square mansion.
The caller, Jay, said he began heckling Kerry and his wife as they attempted
to enter the theater. Finally, he said, the senator turned to him and asked
him the eternal question.
"Do you know who I am?"
"Yeah," said Jay. "You're a gold-digger."
John Kerry. First he looks at the purse.
Howie Carr, a Boston Herald columnist and syndicated talk-radio host, has
been covering John Kerry for 25 years.
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| User: "Domenico Rosa" |
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16 Sep 2004 10:24:10 PM |
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"Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh" <RVtherfordT@The_blinding_light_of_TrVth.com> wrote in message news:<6ZqdnXI6rPOentncRVn-oQ@gwi.net>...
ONE of the surest ways to get the phones ringing on any Massachusetts
talk-radio show is to ask people to call in and tell their John Kerry
stories. ...
Howie Carr, a Boston Herald columnist and syndicated talk-radio host, has
been covering John Kerry for 25 years.
Howie Carr has one of the more entertaining talk-radio shows, 3-7 PM,
based at WRKO AM680 in Boston, which is syndicated in New England. He
is carried by a Springfield, MA station on AM560.
This year he is a rabid Bush supporter, and he has been really
spoofing Kerry. However, before the 2000 New Hampshire primary he
uttered the definitive sound bite:
"Do you really want Jethro Bodine for president?"
At that time Carr was a strong supporter of John McCain. It seems to
me that Carr should update this sound bite to: "Do we really want
Jethro Bodine as president for four more years?"
DR
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| User: "C a p n T r V t h" |
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16 Sep 2004 10:59:34 PM |
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"Domenico Rosa" <DRosa@teikyopost.edu> wrote in message
news:915472c2.0409161924.76bfe4e4@posting.google.com...
"Cap'n RVtherford T TrVTh" <RVtherfordT@The_blinding_light_of_TrVth.com>
wrote in message news:<6ZqdnXI6rPOentncRVn-oQ@gwi.net>...
ONE of the surest ways to get the phones ringing on any Massachusetts
talk-radio show is to ask people to call in and tell their John Kerry
stories. ...
Howie Carr, a Boston Herald columnist and syndicated talk-radio host, has
been covering John Kerry for 25 years.
Howie Carr has one of the more entertaining talk-radio shows, 3-7 PM,
based at WRKO AM680 in Boston, which is syndicated in New England. He
is carried by a Springfield, MA station on AM560.
This year he is a rabid Bush supporter, and he has been really
spoofing Kerry. However, before the 2000 New Hampshire primary he
uttered the definitive sound bite:
"Do you really want Jethro Bodine for president?"
At that time Carr was a strong supporter of John McCain. It seems to
me that Carr should update this sound bite to: "Do we really want
Jethro Bodine as president for four more years?"
DR
Howie still trashes Bush on a regular basis.. On the spending and the
borders...
He had Pat Buchanan on today and they yukked it up like a couple of
schoolgirls for at least an hour.
-Cap
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18 Sep 2004 05:21:18 AM |
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WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
Steven Pitkin, an Army combat veteran, told FOX News that Kerry coached him
and others to say they
had witnessed war crimes, even after Pitkin told Kerry that he had not.
"Before they started the camera, Kerry told me, 'We need you to speak about
the atrocities that
happened over there.' The whole company line that I initially came out and
said, I was coached to
say that over and over again," Pitkin said.
Kerry's former brother-in-law, David Thorne, attended that Winter Soldier
investigation, in which
more than 100 Vietnam veterans told anti-war activists that they had either
committed or witnessed
unspeakable war crimes. Thorne flatly denied Pitkin's charges.
"Kerry never forced anyone to testify to war crimes in any way. [Kerry] went
to Winter Soldier to
listen to what they had to say and to investigate for himself," Thorne said.
Kerry collected the testimony ahead of his appearance during a 1971 hearing
in front of the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee on widespread atrocities against Vietnamese
civilians. He has said the
graphic testimony he gave was merely a repetition of testimony combat
veterans told him
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in Vietnam.
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| User: "Rev. 11D Ricardo MadGello" |
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18 Sep 2004 06:16:58 AM |
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Well!
That Proves It!
NUKE 'EM ALL!
Vote For Anybody But Cheney/DUHbya or Kerry/Edwards in 2004!!!
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18 Sep 2004 03:36:38 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:16:58 GMT, "Rev. 11D Ricardo MadGello"
<visualize.whirled.peas@sweet.*****.juice> wrote:
Well!
That Proves It!
NUKE 'EM ALL!
Vote For Anybody But Cheney/DUHbya or Kerry/Edwards in 2004!!!
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18 Sep 2004 12:13:42 PM |
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"Jim" <KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote in message news:<y_T2d.10226$YU2.5670@twister.socal.rr.com>...
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
Steven Pitkin, an Army combat veteran, told FOX News that Kerry coached him
and others to say they
had witnessed war crimes, even after Pitkin told Kerry that he had not.
"Before they started the camera, Kerry told me, 'We need you to speak about
the atrocities that
happened over there.' The whole company line that I initially came out and
said, I was coached to
say that over and over again," Pitkin said.
Kerry's former brother-in-law, David Thorne, attended that Winter Soldier
investigation, in which
more than 100 Vietnam veterans told anti-war activists that they had either
committed or witnessed
unspeakable war crimes. Thorne flatly denied Pitkin's charges.
"Kerry never forced anyone to testify to war crimes in any way. [Kerry] went
to Winter Soldier to
listen to what they had to say and to investigate for himself," Thorne said.
Kerry collected the testimony ahead of his appearance during a 1971 hearing
in front of the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee on widespread atrocities against Vietnamese
civilians. He has said the
graphic testimony he gave was merely a repetition of testimony combat
veterans told him
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in Vietnam.
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Ah yes, the 'I was lying then, but I'm not now' school of testimony.
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18 Sep 2004 10:13:51 AM |
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"Jim" <KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote in message news:<y_T2d.10226$YU2.5670@twister.socal.rr.com>...
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
Steven Pitkin, an Army combat veteran, told FOX News that Kerry coached him
and others to say they
had witnessed war crimes, even after Pitkin told Kerry that he had not.
"Before they started the camera, Kerry told me, 'We need you to speak about
the atrocities that
happened over there.' The whole company line that I initially came out and
said, I was coached to
say that over and over again," Pitkin said.
Kerry's former brother-in-law, David Thorne, attended that Winter Soldier
investigation, in which
more than 100 Vietnam veterans told anti-war activists that they had either
committed or witnessed
unspeakable war crimes. Thorne flatly denied Pitkin's charges.
"Kerry never forced anyone to testify to war crimes in any way. [Kerry] went
to Winter Soldier to
listen to what they had to say and to investigate for himself," Thorne said.
Kerry collected the testimony ahead of his appearance during a 1971 hearing
in front of the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee on widespread atrocities against Vietnamese
civilians. He has said the
graphic testimony he gave was merely a repetition of testimony combat
veterans told him
Then he needs to explain why Kerry sait "I" in the following interview.
Kerry to Meet the Press on April 18 1971
A portion of John Kerry's remarks on NBC's "Meet the Press" April 18, 1971:
MR. CROSBY NOYES (Washington Evening Star): Mr. Kerry, you said at one time
or another that you think our policies in Vietnam are tantamount to genocide
and that the responsibility lies at all chains of command over there. Do you
consider that you personally as a Naval officer committed atrocities in Vietnam
or crimes punishable by law in this country?
KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes,
I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have
committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted
harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we
were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against
people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages.
All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the
Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written
established policy by the government of the United States from the top
down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who
designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed
off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the
same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in Vietnam.
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21 Sep 2004 03:33:24 PM |
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In article <y_T2d.10226$YU2.5670@twister.socal.rr.com>,
Jim <KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
The war's been over for 30 years. US atrocities are very well
documented.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in Vietnam.
They still have a ways to go to match the level of deceit in the
Smear Boat Liars.
--
Quote Of The Week: "We are here to affirm that when Americans stand up
and speak their minds and say America can do better, that is not a
challenge to patriotism; it is the heart and soul of patriotism."
-- John Kerry
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21 Sep 2004 04:09:41 PM |
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Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
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In article <y_T2d.10226$YU2.5670@twister.socal.rr.com>,
Jim <KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about
atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
The war's been over for 30 years. US atrocities are very well
documented.
yet kerry constantly brings it up.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the
claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in Vietnam.
They still have a ways to go to match the level of deceit in the
Smear Boat Liars.
absolutely true. howeer, the swifties have not given testimony before
congress (iow, they are not given the imprimateur of credibility)
whit
--
Quote Of The Week: "We are here to affirm that when Americans stand up
and speak their minds and say America can do better, that is not a
challenge to patriotism; it is the heart and soul of patriotism."
-- John Kerry
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| User: "Eric da Red" |
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21 Sep 2004 05:34:05 PM |
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In article <pM04d.6545$gG4.27@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
ester <ester@home.net> wrote:
Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:ciq36k$aoc$1@drizzle.com...
In article <y_T2d.10226$YU2.5670@twister.socal.rr.com>,
Jim <KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about
atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
The war's been over for 30 years. US atrocities are very well
documented.
yet kerry constantly brings it up.
No, he doesn't.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the
claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in Vietnam.
They still have a ways to go to match the level of deceit in the
Smear Boat Liars.
absolutely true. howeer, the swifties have not given testimony before
congress (iow, they are not given the imprimateur of credibility)
Afaik, neither has Dan Rather, at least not about this.
--
Quote Of The Week: "We are here to affirm that when Americans stand up
and speak their minds and say America can do better, that is not a
challenge to patriotism; it is the heart and soul of patriotism."
-- John Kerry
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| User: "ester" |
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21 Sep 2004 05:44:21 PM |
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Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:ciqa8t$nug$1@drizzle.com...
In article <pM04d.6545$gG4.27@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
ester <ester@home.net> wrote:
Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:ciq36k$aoc$1@drizzle.com...
In article <y_T2d.10226$YU2.5670@twister.socal.rr.com>,
Jim <KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about
atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
The war's been over for 30 years. US atrocities are very well
documented.
yet kerry constantly brings it up.
No, he doesn't.
rubbish.
i'd love to see some techie with access to the text of all of kerry's
speeches, ads, etc. do a text search for the word "vietnam" and see what the
frequency of occurence was.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the
claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in Vietnam.
They still have a ways to go to match the level of deceit in the
Smear Boat Liars.
absolutely true. howeer, the swifties have not given testimony before
congress (iow, they are not given the imprimateur of credibility)
Afaik, neither has Dan Rather, at least not about this.
correct. but the issue i am saying is that the winter soldier testimony WAS
before congress, and swift boat stuff is not
so, the winter soldier LIARS may have a ways to go to match the LEVEL of
deceit of the Swifties, but the winter soldiertestimony was given
congressional review before congress
that's the point.
dan's done.
whit
--
Quote Of The Week: "We are here to affirm that when Americans stand up
and speak their minds and say America can do better, that is not a
challenge to patriotism; it is the heart and soul of patriotism."
-- John Kerry
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| User: "Eric da Red" |
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22 Sep 2004 02:25:48 PM |
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In article <9924d.1806$g42.1434@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
ester <ester@home.net> wrote:
Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:ciqa8t$nug$1@drizzle.com...
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about
atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
The war's been over for 30 years. US atrocities are very well
documented.
yet kerry constantly brings it up.
No, he doesn't.
rubbish.
It's true. I showed you already.
i'd love to see some techie with access to the text of all of kerry's
speeches, ads, etc. do a text search for the word "vietnam" and see what the
frequency of occurence was.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/
Pick a day. Any day.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the
claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in Vietnam.
They still have a ways to go to match the level of deceit in the
Smear Boat Liars.
absolutely true. howeer, the swifties have not given testimony before
congress (iow, they are not given the imprimateur of credibility)
Afaik, neither has Dan Rather, at least not about this.
correct. but the issue i am saying is that the winter soldier testimony WAS
before congress, and swift boat stuff is not
And the alleged forgery of one memo about the Shrub's service has
nothing to do with the "winter soldier" hearings.
so, the winter soldier LIARS may have a ways to go to match the LEVEL of
deceit of the Swifties, but the winter soldiertestimony was given
congressional review before congress
And the substance of the testimony was not a lie.
that's the point.
dan's done.
I don't care. I'm sure his masters at CBS will be able to find
another pliable stooge to appear on camera.
--
Quote Of The Week: "We are here to affirm that when Americans stand up
and speak their minds and say America can do better, that is not a
challenge to patriotism; it is the heart and soul of patriotism."
-- John Kerry
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| User: "ester" |
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22 Sep 2004 03:54:07 PM |
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Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:cisjjs$e5c$1@drizzle.com...
In article <9924d.1806$g42.1434@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
ester <ester@home.net> wrote:
Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:ciqa8t$nug$1@drizzle.com...
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about
atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic
presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
The war's been over for 30 years. US atrocities are very well
documented.
yet kerry constantly brings it up.
No, he doesn't.
rubbish.
It's true. I showed you already.
i'm not aware you did. did i miss that revealing post?
i'd love to see some techie with access to the text of all of kerry's
speeches, ads, etc. do a text search for the word "vietnam" and see what
the
frequency of occurence was.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/
Pick a day. Any day.
ok.
it doesn't include the text for ads, and interaction on talk shows etc. i
assume but it's a start
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the
claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in
Vietnam.
They still have a ways to go to match the level of deceit in the
Smear Boat Liars.
absolutely true. howeer, the swifties have not given testimony before
congress (iow, they are not given the imprimateur of credibility)
Afaik, neither has Dan Rather, at least not about this.
correct. but the issue i am saying is that the winter soldier testimony
WAS
before congress, and swift boat stuff is not
And the alleged forgery of one memo about the Shrub's service has
nothing to do with the "winter soldier" hearings.
nothing except that they are examples of (intentional or not) fraudulent
statements.
so, the winter soldier LIARS may have a ways to go to match the LEVEL of
deceit of the Swifties, but the winter soldiertestimony was given
congressional review before congress
And the substance of the testimony was not a lie.
much of it was not. much of it was.
that's the point.
dan's done.
I don't care. I'm sure his masters at CBS will be able to find
another pliable stooge to appear on camera.
he was not the pliable stooge at all.
he was the molder more than the clay. that is what insiders (such as
goldberg) at CBS have said.
whit
--
Quote Of The Week: "We are here to affirm that when Americans stand up
and speak their minds and say America can do better, that is not a
challenge to patriotism; it is the heart and soul of patriotism."
-- John Kerry
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| User: "Eric da Red" |
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23 Sep 2004 12:08:18 PM |
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In article <PDl4d.452$zG1.194@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
ester <ester@home.net> wrote:
Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:cisjjs$e5c$1@drizzle.com...
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about
atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic
presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
The war's been over for 30 years. US atrocities are very well
documented.
yet kerry constantly brings it up.
No, he doesn't.
rubbish.
It's true. I showed you already.
i'm not aware you did. did i miss that revealing post?
Apparently.
i'd love to see some techie with access to the text of all of kerry's
speeches, ads, etc. do a text search for the word "vietnam" and see what
the
frequency of occurence was.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/
Pick a day. Any day.
ok.
it doesn't include the text for ads, and interaction on talk shows etc. i
assume but it's a start
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the
claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in
Vietnam.
They still have a ways to go to match the level of deceit in the
Smear Boat Liars.
absolutely true. howeer, the swifties have not given testimony before
congress (iow, they are not given the imprimateur of credibility)
Afaik, neither has Dan Rather, at least not about this.
correct. but the issue i am saying is that the winter soldier testimony
WAS
before congress, and swift boat stuff is not
And the alleged forgery of one memo about the Shrub's service has
nothing to do with the "winter soldier" hearings.
nothing except that they are examples of (intentional or not) fraudulent
statements.
What about the Winter Soldier testimony was fraudulent?
so, the winter soldier LIARS may have a ways to go to match the LEVEL of
deceit of the Swifties, but the winter soldiertestimony was given
congressional review before congress
And the substance of the testimony was not a lie.
much of it was not. much of it was.
Be specific. Point out the lies.
These reminders might help:
http://www.vvaw.org/faq/#9
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/08/24/vietnam/print.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6937.htm
that's the point.
dan's done.
I don't care. I'm sure his masters at CBS will be able to find
another pliable stooge to appear on camera.
he was not the pliable stooge at all.
Sure he is. For example, he correctly complained to a foreign
interview how the US mainstream press had become little more than a
propaganda organ in the months immediately after 9/11/01 and in the
months before the invasion of Iraq. Yet, he did essentially nothing
about it.
That's pliable.
he was the molder more than the clay. that is what insiders (such as
goldberg) at CBS have said.
Did he "mold" this, too?
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6073449/site/newsweek
--
Quote Of The Week: "We are here to affirm that when Americans stand up
and speak their minds and say America can do better, that is not a
challenge to patriotism; it is the heart and soul of patriotism."
-- John Kerry
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| User: "ester" |
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23 Sep 2004 02:40:36 PM |
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Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:ciuvu2$tsd$1@drizzle.com...
In article <PDl4d.452$zG1.194@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
ester <ester@home.net> wrote:
Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:cisjjs$e5c$1@drizzle.com...
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search)
about
atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic
presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
The war's been over for 30 years. US atrocities are very well
documented.
yet kerry constantly brings it up.
No, he doesn't.
rubbish.
It's true. I showed you already.
i'm not aware you did. did i miss that revealing post?
Apparently.
i'd love to see some techie with access to the text of all of kerry's
speeches, ads, etc. do a text search for the word "vietnam" and see
what
the
frequency of occurence was.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/
Pick a day. Any day.
ok.
it doesn't include the text for ads, and interaction on talk shows etc. i
assume but it's a start
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of
the
claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in
Vietnam.
They still have a ways to go to match the level of deceit in the
Smear Boat Liars.
absolutely true. howeer, the swifties have not given testimony
before
congress (iow, they are not given the imprimateur of credibility)
Afaik, neither has Dan Rather, at least not about this.
correct. but the issue i am saying is that the winter soldier
testimony
WAS
before congress, and swift boat stuff is not
And the alleged forgery of one memo about the Shrub's service has
nothing to do with the "winter soldier" hearings.
nothing except that they are examples of (intentional or not) fraudulent
statements.
What about the Winter Soldier testimony was fraudulent?
some of the soldier's stories have been shown to be fraudulent, in that (for
example) some people were not even where they said they were. that's
fraudulent.
so, the winter soldier LIARS may have a ways to go to match the LEVEL
of
deceit of the Swifties, but the winter soldiertestimony was given
congressional review before congress
And the substance of the testimony was not a lie.
much of it was not. much of it was.
Be specific. Point out the lies.
These reminders might help:
http://www.vvaw.org/faq/#9
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/08/24/vietnam/print.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6937.htm
http://www.nationalreview.com/owens/owens200401270825.asp
http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/W/Winter-Soldier-Investigation.htm
this is my favorite from the abve
"According to the investigative work of Burkett, Lewy and others, there were
many imposters, liars, and plain nutjobs who infiltrated the ranks of the
anti-war movement, and, in some cases, testified to war crimes and
atrocities that never occurred in order to get attention, sympathy, and, in
one documented case, medals and honors. It is also true, as noted by author
Gerald Nicosia in his authoritative history of the Vietnam Veterans Movement
"Home to War", that those discredited voices were never key witnesses in
either the Winter Soldier Investigation or in subsequent war crimes
investigations such as the congressional Dellums Hearings of 1971"
iow, they admit there were some lies, but say they were not "key witnesses"
classic
whit
that's the point.
dan's done.
I don't care. I'm sure his masters at CBS will be able to find
another pliable stooge to appear on camera.
he was not the pliable stooge at all.
Sure he is. For example, he correctly complained to a foreign
interview how the US mainstream press had become little more than a
propaganda organ in the months immediately after 9/11/01 and in the
months before the invasion of Iraq. Yet, he did essentially nothing
about it.
That's pliable.
he was the molder more than the clay. that is what insiders (such as
goldberg) at CBS have said.
Did he "mold" this, too?
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6073449/site/newsweek
--
Quote Of The Week: "We are here to affirm that when Americans stand up
and speak their minds and say America can do better, that is not a
challenge to patriotism; it is the heart and soul of patriotism."
-- John Kerry
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21 Sep 2004 06:30:42 PM |
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ester <ester@home.net> wrote:
Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:ciqa8t$nug$1@drizzle.com...
In article <pM04d.6545$gG4.27@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
ester <ester@home.net> wrote:
[..]
yet kerry constantly brings it up.
No, he doesn't.
rubbish.
i'd love to see some techie with access to the text of all of kerry's
speeches, ads, etc. do a text search for the word "vietnam" and see what
the frequency of occurence was.
Hey, there's this nifty thing called 'the internet.' Maybe you've heard
of it. There's also this thing called 'lexis nexis.' Maybe you've heard
of *that.*
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "ester" |
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21 Sep 2004 06:38:24 PM |
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Paul Mitchum <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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ester <ester@home.net> wrote:
Eric da Red <bergamot@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:ciqa8t$nug$1@drizzle.com...
In article <pM04d.6545$gG4.27@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
ester <ester@home.net> wrote:
[..]
yet kerry constantly brings it up.
No, he doesn't.
rubbish.
i'd love to see some techie with access to the text of all of kerry's
speeches, ads, etc. do a text search for the word "vietnam" and see what
the frequency of occurence was.
Hey, there's this nifty thing called 'the internet.' Maybe you've heard
of it. There's also this thing called 'lexis nexis.' Maybe you've heard
of *that.*
i don't (anymore) have access to lexisnexis. you need a password.
furthermore, i am not sure that would pull up the text of every kerry ad,
the text of his words on every teevee show appearance, etc.
it would not be that all inclusive, but it woudl be a good start
whit
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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18 Sep 2004 03:29:50 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:21:18 GMT, "Jim"
<KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
Steven Pitkin, an Army combat veteran, told FOX News that Kerry coached him
and others to say they
had witnessed war crimes, even after Pitkin told Kerry that he had not.
"Before they started the camera, Kerry told me, 'We need you to speak about
the atrocities that
happened over there.' The whole company line that I initially came out and
said, I was coached to
say that over and over again," Pitkin said.
Kerry's former brother-in-law, David Thorne, attended that Winter Soldier
investigation, in which
more than 100 Vietnam veterans told anti-war activists that they had either
committed or witnessed
unspeakable war crimes. Thorne flatly denied Pitkin's charges.
"Kerry never forced anyone to testify to war crimes in any way. [Kerry] went
to Winter Soldier to
listen to what they had to say and to investigate for himself," Thorne said.
Kerry collected the testimony ahead of his appearance during a 1971 hearing
in front of the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee on widespread atrocities against Vietnamese
civilians. He has said the
graphic testimony he gave was merely a repetition of testimony combat
veterans told him
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in Vietnam.
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19 Sep 2004 11:25:10 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:29:50 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:21:18 GMT, "Jim"
<KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
Steven Pitkin, an Army combat veteran, told FOX News that Kerry coached him
and others to say they
had witnessed war crimes, even after Pitkin told Kerry that he had not.
Th Dummycrats will discount Steven Pitkin but will hang on to every
word Bill Burkett says.
-
Ted Kennedy, Terry McAuliffe and John Kerry
The Three Stooges
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18 Sep 2004 03:36:28 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:21:18 GMT, "Jim"
<KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
Steven Pitkin, an Army combat veteran, told FOX News that Kerry coached him
and others to say they
had witnessed war crimes, even after Pitkin told Kerry that he had not.
"Before they started the camera, Kerry told me, 'We need you to speak about
the atrocities that
happened over there.' The whole company line that I initially came out and
said, I was coached to
say that over and over again," Pitkin said.
Kerry's former brother-in-law, David Thorne, attended that Winter Soldier
investigation, in which
more than 100 Vietnam veterans told anti-war activists that they had either
committed or witnessed
unspeakable war crimes. Thorne flatly denied Pitkin's charges.
"Kerry never forced anyone to testify to war crimes in any way. [Kerry] went
to Winter Soldier to
listen to what they had to say and to investigate for himself," Thorne said.
Kerry collected the testimony ahead of his appearance during a 1971 hearing
in front of the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee on widespread atrocities against Vietnamese
civilians. He has said the
graphic testimony he gave was merely a repetition of testimony combat
veterans told him
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html
Numerous investigations after the fact have found that many of the claimed
veteran witnesses
from that day either were never in the military or never in Vietnam.
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| Title: Re: Winter Soldier Witness excites "JIMLOON" |
18 Sep 2004 08:15:44 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:21:18 GMT, "Jim"
<KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON - A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about atrocities
he committed in the
Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential
candidate coerced him to tell
tales.
Well, that's ONE out of thousands
Pretty lame start, wouldn't you say?
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After being told by an aide; "America is under attack", George
Bush, (supposed protector of America/leader) sat in a silent stupor
for 7 minutes, frozen like a deer in a cars headlights. Sources say that
it was more like 26 minutes because after he left the "kiddies"
he had no idea what to do.
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