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Religions > Atheism |
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"dapra" |
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20 Aug 2007 09:00:03 PM |
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Veterans of Foreign Wars |
Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton spoke today at the Veterans of Foreign Wars
convention. Though, they differed on Iraq somewhat, both advocated a
militaristic, aggressive foreign policy. They called it "defense".
Since when, maintaining close to 200 military bases in foreign countries
is called "defense"? Waging aggressive wars and occupation are called
"defense"? I'd guess since the Department of War was renamed to the
Department of Defense (August 10, 1949).
The Orwellian language has a long history in the US. Bush & Co just
tremendously improved on it. They have taken it to the upper limits,
that would embarrass any of the previous totalitarian regimes, as they
would be seen incompetent comparing to Bush & Co.
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| User: "Hal" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
04 Sep 2007 01:35:04 PM |
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On Sep 3, 12:24 pm, Colin Campbell <activated_...@gmail.com (remove
underscore)> wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:35:10 -0700, Hal <SpamTh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 2, 2:43 pm, Colin Campbell <activated_...@gmail.com (remove
underscore)> wrote:
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:18:46 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote:
And what? An apology for being insulting? That might be a good track for
you to take.
Why should I apologize? You are running around with the Usenet
equalivalent of a 'kick me' sign when you demonstrated that you were
commenting on things you know noting about.
If you want my respect - stop making stuff up.
LMAO You think that someone out their *wants* your respect!!
I think Scruffy has gotten past the angst of not getting your respect
Colin. The ridiculing of your usual insults and ignorance should have
been a hint. Thanks for the laugh though :)
It must be horrible having people disagree with you.
It's telling that you don't know.
I treat people as they act.
The same is true of all of the people that treat you like a jerk.
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 01:58:29 AM |
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Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.3697848E@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1cnb3@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell
at (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on "clueless"......
redc1c4,
pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 02:29:47 AM |
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In News 46D7BC4B.AE1C521C@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.3697848E@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1cnb3@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell
at (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on
The facts, of course. I can always tell that I'm close to the facts by the
rapidity in which my detractors resort to insult. Since you took about one
post, I must be very close to the facts.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 03:35:34 AM |
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Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7BC4B.AE1C521C@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.3697848E@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1cnb3@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell
at (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on
The facts, of course. I can always tell that I'm close to the facts by the
rapidity in which my detractors resort to insult. Since you took about one
post, I must be very close to the facts.
yet you remain "fact free".... how do you explain that?
redc1c4,
my theory is that you are indeed "fact proof", & i'm collecting data. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 05:32:27 AM |
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In News 46D7D2D6.3F918A07@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7BC4B.AE1C521C@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.3697848E@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1cnb3@4ax.com,, Colin
Campbell at (remove underscore), typed
this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on
The facts, of course. I can always tell that I'm close to the facts
by the rapidity in which my detractors resort to insult. Since you
took about one post, I must be very close to the facts.
yet you remain "fact free
Nope, I remain 100% factual.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 10:41:42 AM |
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Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7D2D6.3F918A07@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7BC4B.AE1C521C@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.3697848E@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1cnb3@4ax.com,, Colin
Campbell at (remove underscore), typed
this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on
The facts, of course. I can always tell that I'm close to the facts
by the rapidity in which my detractors resort to insult. Since you
took about one post, I must be very close to the facts.
yet you remain "fact free
Nope, I remain 100% factual.
and yet those "facts" are meaningless, because they are wrong. ergo, you
are clueless, which is where we came in. %-)
redc1c4,
denying the validity of an essential truth doesn't make it any less so.
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 11:26:34 AM |
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In News 46D836ED.3E1BC7AE@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7D2D6.3F918A07@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7BC4B.AE1C521C@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.3697848E@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1cnb3@4ax.com,, Colin
Campbell at (remove underscore), typed
this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on
The facts, of course. I can always tell that I'm close to the
facts by the rapidity in which my detractors resort to insult.
Since you took about one post, I must be very close to the facts.
yet you remain "fact free
Nope, I remain 100% factual.
and yet
I am 100% factual.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 11:26:02 AM |
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On Aug 31, 4:35 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7BC4B.AE1C5...@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.36978...@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1c...@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell
at (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on
The facts, of course. I can always tell that I'm close to the facts by the
rapidity in which my detractors resort to insult. Since you took about one
post, I must be very close to the facts.
yet you remain "fact free".... how do you explain that?
redc1c4,
my theory is that you are indeed "fact proof", & i'm collecting data. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
My the crickets are loud tonight!
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 11:26:35 AM |
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On Aug 31, 2:58 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.36978...@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1c...@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell
at (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on "clueless"......
redc1c4,
pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
Komm souse tod!
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 12:21:21 PM |
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Eris wrote:
On Aug 31, 2:58 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.36978...@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1c...@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell
at (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on "clueless"......
redc1c4,
pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
Komm souse tod!
Päässäsi tekee paska patoja ja kusi puroja.
redc1c4,
how's your BGL this morning? %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 12:24:55 PM |
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In News 1188577595.030872.110810@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com,, Eris at
vithant@gmail.com, typed this:
On Aug 31, 2:58 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.36978...@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1c...@4ax.com,, Colin
Campbell at (remove underscore), typed
this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on "clueless"......
redc1c4,
pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
Komm souse tod!
What's "souse" mean? My German is a bit rusty.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 05:10:05 PM |
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On Aug 31, 1:24 pm, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET>
wrote:
In News 1188577595.030872.110...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com,, Eris at
vith...@gmail.com, typed this:
On Aug 31, 2:58 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.36978...@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1c...@4ax.com,, Colin
Campbell at (remove underscore), typed
this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on "clueless"......
redc1c4,
pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
Komm souse tod!
What's "souse" mean? My German is a bit rusty.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
sweet, I may have misspelled it.
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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31 Aug 2007 05:20:04 PM |
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In News 1188598205.063949.284450@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, Eris at
vithant@gmail.com, typed this:
On Aug 31, 1:24 pm, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET>
wrote:
In News 1188577595.030872.110...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com,, Eris
at vith...@gmail.com, typed this:
On Aug 31, 2:58 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 46D7B713.36978...@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1c...@4ax.com,, Colin
Campbell at (remove underscore), typed
this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an
election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
Nope, I'm right on the money.
and all the money is on "clueless"......
redc1c4,
pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
Komm souse tod!
What's "souse" mean? My German is a bit rusty.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
sweet, I may have misspelled it.
Ah! süß, However, in the context of that sentence, it's: Kommen süsser
Tod!
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Eris" |
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31 Aug 2007 11:25:11 AM |
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On Aug 31, 2:37 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News 7hsed39ur5s60t5b6m47a2ihfghfa1c...@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell at
activated_...@gmail.com (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an
election either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
Nope, realistic.
realistically, you're clueless.
redc1c4,
either that, or willfully st00pid. your pick........ %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
Again no content,
Probably you spend your evenings throwing eggs at passing cars.
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| User: "Governor Swill" |
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30 Aug 2007 11:08:41 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:48:36 -0700, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:35 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an election.
To parties with no one viable to choose from isn't exactly an election
either.
Ok - so you are clueless.
You are not aware that Iraq elected a parliament and that 15 parties
that supplied lists of candidates.
At this point you are becoming nothing more than a source of
amusement.
I believe the comments were about Iraq under Hussein.
Swill
--
Money isn't always dollars, but dollars are always money.
Picture of the day
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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30 Aug 2007 06:28:56 PM |
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In News 46d6293e$1@news.i70west.com,, Daryl Hunt at
dhunt@celticommnospam.com, typed this:
"Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:13dc9lb2drd3ab0@corp.supernews.com...
In News 3v8cd3prvu0si9bmm6ken5gk22vr4qghp4@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell
at (remove underscore), typed this:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:34:25 GMT, Desmond and Molly Jones
<dmj@spamspamspamspam.org> wrote:
Did it ever cross your tiny little mind that Iraqis should chose
their own representatives?
Of course. I was there for the first elections.
I take it that you are not aware that the Iraqi people did exactly
this in the beginning of 2005?
The Iraqi people voted on their constitution then elected a
parliament to represent them. These elected representatives of the
Iraqi people are the people who should rule Iraq as long as they
remain answerable to the Iraqi people.
The people we are fighting in Iraq are trying to overthrow the
government selected by the Iraqi people in UN certified elections.
As I recall, Hussein was also elected.
A one party, one candidate to choose from isn't exactly an election.
Of course, his Parliament could have voted no instead of all voting
yes but that would be the last they would ever disagree with the
"Elected" Official President.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if Saddam's election was U.N.
Certified?
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore" |
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30 Aug 2007 08:53:38 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:28:56 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if Saddam's election was U.N.
Certified?
It wasn't.
"On October 16, 2002, after a well-publicized show election, Iraqi
officials declared that Saddam had been re-elected to another
seven-year term as President by a 100% unanimous vote of all
11,445,638 eligible Iraqis, eclipsing the 99.96% received in 1995. The
United States and others outside Iraq said the vote lacked any
credibility. Stories later surfaced stating that voting was compulsory
and that the "yes" box had already been checked for voters in advance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Iraq
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There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
30 Aug 2007 09:05:44 PM |
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In News rrsed3pdiqjrs4jf7kgga43vbuvhj78ln3@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell at
activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:28:56 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if Saddam's election was U.N.
Certified?
It wasn't.
Thanks, I was wondering about that.
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"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Tankfixer" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
29 Aug 2007 11:52:24 PM |
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In article <13dc9lb2drd3ab0@corp.supernews.com>,
mumbled
In News 3v8cd3prvu0si9bmm6ken5gk22vr4qghp4@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell at
activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore), typed this:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:34:25 GMT, Desmond and Molly Jones
<dmj@spamspamspamspam.org> wrote:
Did it ever cross your tiny little mind that Iraqis should chose
their own representatives?
Of course. I was there for the first elections.
I take it that you are not aware that the Iraqi people did exactly
this in the beginning of 2005?
The Iraqi people voted on their constitution then elected a parliament
to represent them. These elected representatives of the Iraqi people
are the people who should rule Iraq as long as they remain answerable
to the Iraqi people.
The people we are fighting in Iraq are trying to overthrow the
government selected by the Iraqi people in UN certified elections.
As I recall, Hussein was also elected.
So was Stalin.. What's your point ?
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Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
30 Aug 2007 05:19:39 AM |
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In News 13dcj7mo870q87f@corp.supernews.com,, Tankfixer at
paul.carrier@us.army.m, typed this:
In article <13dc9lb2drd3ab0@corp.supernews.com>,
mumbled
In News 3v8cd3prvu0si9bmm6ken5gk22vr4qghp4@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell
at (remove underscore), typed this:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:34:25 GMT, Desmond and Molly Jones
<dmj@spamspamspamspam.org> wrote:
Did it ever cross your tiny little mind that Iraqis should chose
their own representatives?
Of course. I was there for the first elections.
I take it that you are not aware that the Iraqi people did exactly
this in the beginning of 2005?
The Iraqi people voted on their constitution then elected a
parliament to represent them. These elected representatives of the
Iraqi people are the people who should rule Iraq as long as they
remain answerable to the Iraqi people.
The people we are fighting in Iraq are trying to overthrow the
government selected by the Iraqi people in UN certified elections.
As I recall, Hussein was also elected.
So was Stalin.. What's your point ?
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a "UN
certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep Hussein around for
decades.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Tankfixer" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 11:24:40 PM |
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In article <13dd6dslu2598d@corp.supernews.com>,
mumbled
In News 13dcj7mo870q87f@corp.supernews.com,, Tankfixer at
paul.carrier@us.army.m, typed this:
In article <13dc9lb2drd3ab0@corp.supernews.com>,
mumbled
In News 3v8cd3prvu0si9bmm6ken5gk22vr4qghp4@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell
at (remove underscore), typed this:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:34:25 GMT, Desmond and Molly Jones
<dmj@spamspamspamspam.org> wrote:
Did it ever cross your tiny little mind that Iraqis should chose
their own representatives?
Of course. I was there for the first elections.
I take it that you are not aware that the Iraqi people did exactly
this in the beginning of 2005?
The Iraqi people voted on their constitution then elected a
parliament to represent them. These elected representatives of the
Iraqi people are the people who should rule Iraq as long as they
remain answerable to the Iraqi people.
The people we are fighting in Iraq are trying to overthrow the
government selected by the Iraqi people in UN certified elections.
As I recall, Hussein was also elected.
So was Stalin.. What's your point ?
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a "UN
certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep Hussein around for
decades.
The irony is they arn't....
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Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
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| User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
30 Aug 2007 08:18:29 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:19:39 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
The people we are fighting in Iraq are trying to overthrow the
government selected by the Iraqi people in UN certified elections.
As I recall, Hussein was also elected.
So was Stalin.. What's your point ?
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a "UN
certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep Hussein around for
decades.
What makes you think that the Iraqi people are fighting to overthrow
the government they elected?
Do you have any clue whatsoever about who the factions in Iraq are and
what their political goals are?
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There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
30 Aug 2007 09:04:52 PM |
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In News vvqed3hc1k6qc7r480osl7k6kb43tnsr8e@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell at
activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:19:39 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
The people we are fighting in Iraq are trying to overthrow the
government selected by the Iraqi people in UN certified elections.
As I recall, Hussein was also elected.
So was Stalin.. What's your point ?
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a "UN
certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep Hussein
around for decades.
What makes you think that the Iraqi people are fighting to overthrow
the government they elected?
Pick up a newspaper.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 06:59:15 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:04:52 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News vvqed3hc1k6qc7r480osl7k6kb43tnsr8e@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell at
activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:19:39 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
The people we are fighting in Iraq are trying to overthrow the
government selected by the Iraqi people in UN certified elections.
As I recall, Hussein was also elected.
So was Stalin.. What's your point ?
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a "UN
certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep Hussein
around for decades.
What makes you think that the Iraqi people are fighting to overthrow
the government they elected?
Pick up a newspaper.
Name one newspaper article that provides a detailed description of the
political factions inside Iraq and what the goals are of the larger
social groups in Iraq.
For example: name one newspaper who can describe the differences in
political goals between the secular Sunni and the non-secular Sunni.
Even better - name one newspaper whose stories come from reporters who
have gone 'outside the wire.'
You don't have the faintest clue as to what you are talking about.
What is really sad is that here you are - aware that I can tell you
about the factions in Iraq but are not interested in actually learning
something.
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There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 01:35:52 AM |
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Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News vvqed3hc1k6qc7r480osl7k6kb43tnsr8e@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell at
activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:19:39 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
The people we are fighting in Iraq are trying to overthrow the
government selected by the Iraqi people in UN certified elections.
As I recall, Hussein was also elected.
So was Stalin.. What's your point ?
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a "UN
certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep Hussein
around for decades.
What makes you think that the Iraqi people are fighting to overthrow
the government they elected?
Pick up a newspaper.
and whack you with it for being a dumb *****? i don't think that would sink
in to what is obviously a fecally impacted brain case.
redc1c4,
are you related to Eris? %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 01:42:27 AM |
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In News 46D7B6C7.5CE07FF3@drunkenbastards.org.ies,, redc1c4 at
redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies, typed this:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News vvqed3hc1k6qc7r480osl7k6kb43tnsr8e@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell
at (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:19:39 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruffy_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
The people we are fighting in Iraq are trying to overthrow the
government selected by the Iraqi people in UN certified
elections.
As I recall, Hussein was also elected.
So was Stalin.. What's your point ?
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a
"UN certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep Hussein
around for decades.
What makes you think that the Iraqi people are fighting to overthrow
the government they elected?
Pick up a newspaper.
and whack you
Try reading it.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 11:23:51 AM |
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On Aug 31, 2:35 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
In News vvqed3hc1k6qc7r480osl7k6kb43tns...@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell at
activated_...@gmail.com (remove underscore), typed this:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:19:39 -0400, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
<Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote:
The people we are fighting in Iraq are trying to overthrow the
government selected by the Iraqi people in UN certified elections.
As I recall, Hussein was also elected.
So was Stalin.. What's your point ?
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a "UN
certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep Hussein
around for decades.
What makes you think that the Iraqi people are fighting to overthrow
the government they elected?
Pick up a newspaper.
and whack you with it for being a dumb *****? i don't think that would sink
in to what is obviously a fecally impacted brain case.
redc1c4,
are you related to Eris? %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
Again no content, reminds me of Tchaikovsky's sixth symphony
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| User: "Governor Swill" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
30 Aug 2007 11:10:22 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:18:29 -0700, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote:
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a "UN
certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep Hussein around for
decades.
What makes you think that the Iraqi people are fighting to overthrow
the government they elected?
I don't think he's talking about the Iraqi government anymore.
Swill
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Money isn't always dollars, but dollars are always money.
Picture of the day
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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| User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 07:01:46 PM |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:10:22 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:18:29 -0700, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote:
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a "UN
certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep Hussein around for
decades.
What makes you think that the Iraqi people are fighting to overthrow
the government they elected?
I don't think he's talking about the Iraqi government anymore.
He is claiming to be talking about the Iraqi people. The same Iraqi
people who voted on a constitution and elected a parliament to
represent them.
I am still waiting for him to rationalize how they people of Iraq can
be trying to overthrow a government they choose.
Unless of course - the thinks that Al Queda speaks for the people of
Iraq.
--
There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: Veterans of Foreign Wars |
31 Aug 2007 07:27:34 PM |
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In News 7rahd3d2ahsk7gd5d1ujtpc446a1ljkcdq@4ax.com,, Colin Campbell at
activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore), typed this:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:10:22 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:18:29 -0700, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote:
The irony that the Iraqi people would be fighting to overthrow a
"UN certified" elected government with such vigor, but keep
Hussein around for decades.
What makes you think that the Iraqi people are fighting to overthrow
the government they elected?
I don't think he's talking about the Iraqi government anymore.
He is claiming to be talking about the Iraqi people. The same Iraqi
people who voted on a constitution and elected a parliament to
represent them.
I am still waiting for him to rationalize how they people of Iraq can
be trying to overthrow a government they choose.
You still don't get it. Maliki is Sadr's boy, always has been, always will
be. The Sunni withdrawel completed the overthrow, but functionally the
overthrow happened the day the election results were known. The very
instant the U.S. withdraws, it's a Sunni nation. It doesn't matter how
many decades we stay, the result will be the same. Why do you think that
Sadr was begging the U.S. to take out Saddam in 91? For a democracy?
Guess again.
Hell, we might as well served Iraq to Iran on a silver platter, the end
result will be exactly the same.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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