In article <c687e307.0409020311.37c1b6a@posting.google.com>,
saguaro@surfbest.net (Dave Cook) wrote:

Jake M <jamal@funvt.calm> wrote in message

news:<413688E3.1077F55A@funvt.calm>...

"Yang, AthD (h.c)" wrote:

How many smearboat lies have these clowns been caught in now?
Seriously, how incompetent and dishonest can you be?

They lie, even incompetently, because sometimes it works.

Kerry dishonored himself with lies about medals he didn't deserve

OK, you're lying.

and
lies about the military.

Such as?

Kerry supporters like moveon.org claim that
the SBV lied, but like you, they offer no proof of any lies.

www.factcheck.org
www.nytimes.com

I haven't
seen anything from them of any substance.

We're sorry you're such an idiot.

On the other hand, here is
what I see from the book, "Unfit for Command" that they cannot
disprove.

See above references

it is interesting that it only took a few good men to start
us all looking at what he had been claiming. It is a real show of the
power of the 1st Amendment when combined with the power of Internet.
With this, a biased media has no match for the power of free people.

Biased media? Yes, you are an idiot.

There are a lot of problems with Kerry's Vietnam stories of heroism.

Liar.

Regarding his Bronze Star, Kerry claimed that he got the medal for
actions on the night of 13 March 1969. It was then, he said, after a
mine explosion and while under fire, that three swift boats in the
patrol team fled the area while he kept his boat back to rescue Lt.
James Rassmann. Kerry's campaign now admits that (against SOP) he fled
leaving the injured crew of SBF-3 to whatever fate awaited, while the
other boats remained on station. Kerry returned later to pull the
Green Beret Rassmann out of the water -- the same Rassmann who'd been
dumped into the water when Kerry's boat sped off. The other boats
stayed to defend the injured men.

See above references

Kerry put in for three Purple Hearts so he could get out of Vietnam.
Two of the three are bogus.

Liar.

John Kerry's first Purple Heart was for action on December 2, 1968.
According to the Military Order of the Purple Heart, if enemy fire is
not involved in the incident, no medal should be awarded. "The Purple
Heart is awarded to members of the armed forces of the U.S. who are
wounded by an instrument of war in the hands of the enemy," according
to the organization chartered by Congress.

From Kerry's own diary, they had not been shot at as late as December
11, 1968, so he was not eligible. Kerry has now backed off of his
first medal claim that he was hit by hostile fire on December 2.
Indeed, the injury in question (a small abrasion on his arm which was
treated with the equivalent of Neosporin and a Band-Aid) was most
likely self-inflicted. Kerry's request for a Purple Heart was flatly
rejected by his treating physician, and by his command, until he
reapplied through an alternate chain of command some weeks later.

Retired Rear Adm. William L. Schachte Jr. said Thursday in his first
on-the-record interview about the swift boat veterans dispute that "I
was absolutely in the skimmer" in the early morning on Dec. 2, 1968,
when Lt. (j.g.) John Kerry was involved in an incident that led to his
first Purple Heart. "Kerry nicked himself with a M-79 [grenade
launcher]," Schachte said in a telephone interview from his home in
Charleston, S.C.

The Doctor that treated the wound recalled:

The one whose name doesn't appear on the report?

According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight, receiving
small arms fire from on shore. He said that his injury resulted from
this enemy action. Some of his crew confided that they did not
receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round
at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewman thought that the
injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round
when it struck the rocks. That seemed to fit the injury which I
treated. The wound was covered with a bandaid. No [sic] other injuries
were reported and I do not recall that there was any reported damage
to the boat.

The third Purple Heart, obtained at the same time as his Bronze Star,
is very questionable for similar reasons. For this one, there are
conflicting reports about the presence of VC and gunfire directed at
the Swift Boats. One fact that tells us a lot. The records show that
there was no damage to Kerry's Swift Boat in the March 13,1969
"ambush" that got Kerry the bronze star and got him out of Vietnam.
(One of the other boats had three bullet holes from the previous day,
but only the boat that hit the mine was damaged on the 13th.) That
seems a little strange, in fact, impossible. There is no way that VC
could have fired at a 50 foot long boat from less than 50 yards away
(half the length of a football field) and never hit it. Clearly, this
data infers that there was NO GUNFIRE FROM THE RIVER BANK, and Kerry
lied. His lie added a Bronze Star to his collection. His "wound" from
that "battle" got him out of Vietnam. Two injuries - a small bruise on
his right arm and a minor injury to his buttocks - won Kerry his Third
Purple Heart and a trip home. According to those present, Kerry
injured himself earlier in the day while trying to destroy a VC rice
cache from an unsafe distance.

Kerry's "Christmas in Cambodia" story is not supported by anything,

Only his biographer's book.

and his crew of that time says it didn't happen, and Kerry
acknowledges that it didn't happen:
Posted: August 12, 2004, Days after charges were first made public,
John Kerry's campaign is beginning to respond to allegations the
senator has lied for decades about being in Cambodia for Christmas in
1968, saying he was at or near the border but not actually in the
country for the holiday.

Look, Kerry wanted to get out of there in the worst way, and he
apparently believed that it was a war that we shouldn't be in. I am
sure he was looking for the quickest way out. If a lie would get him
out of there, then he would not hesitate to lie. I think the SBV and
"Unfit for Command" has it right.

As I said, you're an idiot.

His anti-war activities after he came home are the really rotten part
of Kerry's past.

Because dissent and free speech are so not what this nation stands for.

Kerry returned from his 4 month "Tour of Duty",

Two tours of duty, liar.

and
told the world that we in the United States were terrible people. We
supported corruption in Vietnam, and that the war was racial. (The
percentage of African Americans killed in Vietnam was actually a
little less than the percentage in the US population.) He said our
military were as bad as the VC for the people, destroying their
villages, and that our troops shot anything and destroyed anything. He
said we accepted the My Lai massacre, and didn't value the lives of
Orientals.

Read what he actually said, idiot.

LIBERALS HATE AMERICA! If old lies work, why tell new ones? (For Black
Americans-Liberalism Worst Than Crack)


I continue to find it interesting that for the bravado, for all the
garrulous talk, for all the race-baiting comments, and certainly for
all of the "Republicans are racist and interested in keeping you
[black] folks down" talk, Democrats are only able to choose white
liberals for national and key party positions.

Kerry seems to have taken this to a whole new level, having to first
be reminded that he had no blacks in key campaign positions, then
selecting the fourth-most-liberal senator in the senate as an
unambiguous example of white privilege and superiority.

Kerry-Edwards is yet another flagrant example of what liberals really
think of blacks. To the Kerry-Edwards liberals, it is sufficient to
show up on the church doorsteps, perform what amounts to a "Saturday
Night Live" rendition of "The Old Rugged Cross" or "We Shall Overcome"
while smiling and preening like Al Jolson without black face (my
apologies to Jolson).

One cannot help but wonder when blacks will realize the only thing
black about white liberals like Kerry and Edwards is their hearts. And
the only thing they view blacks as being good for is a few million
votes in election cycles.

Until their track record for appointing blacks to key national
positions improves dramatically, it would be good for them to stop
attacking conservatives. But we shan't hold our breaths for that one
shall we?

Once again I ask the question I have asked every presidential election
and off-year election cycle since Jimmy Carter: What have liberal
Democrats done for blacks other than raise the misery index?

Once again the answer is zip, nadda, nothing, zilch - unless one
counts delivering pre-packaged messages of inferiority as counting
toward something positive.

I don't hide my contempt for elite liberals as a whole - having pulled
my head out of that place which graces a saddle long ago. And coming
from a lifelong belief (even before I realized it) in meritocracy, I
don't want to hear how bad I have it - I want to hear how good I can
have it.

I don't want a slick, botox-lipped, snake-oil salesman to tell me how
he is my only hope for a better life. But I get ahead of myself.

Kerry believes in a woman's right to choose (read: a woman's right to
murder her unborn child). That notwithstanding, he has recently
claimed to believe life starts at conception, making all the more
deplorable his pro-abortion position.

Yet he claims to have blacks' best interest in mind. Has he not seen
national studies showing abortion as the No. 1 killer of blacks? Has
he not wondered why the majority of abortion clinics are located in or
near black and minority neighborhoods?

Kerry claims 1 million more poor and minority students will graduate
from college if he is elected president. My question to Mr. Kerry is:
Why does it take being president to be concerned about minority
graduation rates? When he loses his presidential bid, will he still be
interested? And where has he been all of the years he has been playing
the liberal playboy, marry-a-rich-widow senator role? Wasn't there a
college-graduation problem for minorities then?

Wasn't he concerned about the abuses to undereducated blacks, thinking
they could punt, pass and kick their way out of the ghetto only to
find themselves without professional contracts and without college
degrees?

Kerry tells black church groups he will encourage their students to
study math, science and technology by spending $100 million more of
taxpayer's money on scholarships for college with large minority
enrollments.

But he offers no insight into his plans to curb black-on-black crime,
disproportionate illegitimacy rates, homes without fathers, etc. He
offers no insight into the phenomena of black students purposefully
failing so as not to be like "whitey."

I submit blaming President Bush is not the answer. Nor is having
Kerry's vice presidential candidate, John Edwards, set his litigation
brothers on the schools for failing to prepare students.

I submit the only evil perpetrated upon blinded blacks greater than
crack cocaine, is liberal Democrats. Instead of treating minorities
with the respect and encouragement they give their own children, they
treat them as handicapped retards. And to their impassioned delight,
it still works.

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An aborted baby has way more stuff than you do, voodoo.

Chicken Robin.

Needle to DUHbya's Grave.

You shot DUH pResident?

Damn, that could cause you all kinds of trouble!


"Michael Marxist Moore", you are so bloisted!

Pay no attention to the Kerryslandering Ketchup Kommunist. KKK's just a
pathetic spamtroll that thrives on replies to its senseless drivel.