Religions > Atheism > Vista copy protection is defended {Content Protection specification as "the longest suicide note in history}
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08 Feb 2007 07:51:32 PM |
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Vista copy protection is defended {Content Protection specification as "the longest suicide note in history} |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6286245.stm
Monday, 22 January 2007, 12:12 GMT
Vista copy protection is defended
Microsoft has defended the digital rights management systems integrated
into its new Vista operating system.
It follows reports that Vista would "downgrade" the quality of all video
and audio, if they were not output via approved connections on the PC.
Microsoft said only the quality of "premium content" would be lowered,
and only if requested by copyright holders.
The measures are in place, says the firm, to protect content such as
high definition movies from being copied.
Vista's copy protection systems have come under fire from many quarters,
including recently from Peter Gutmann, a computer science lecturer at
the University of Auckland.
In a report looking at the impact Vista would have on video and audio
playback, he described Vista's Content Protection specification as "the
longest suicide note in history".
He said Vista was "broken by design" and intentionally crippled the way
it displayed video.
"The sheer obnoxiousness of Vista's content protection may end up being
the biggest incentive to piracy yet created," he wrote.
Enforced
In a response to the paper, Dave Marsh, lead program manager for video
at Microsoft, said many of the copy protection systems enforced by Vista
were common on all playback devices.
He said Vista did have the capability of downgrading video and audio
quality, like other devices, but that it would only be activated "when
required by the policy associated with the content being played".
The copyright holders of content on HD-DVD and Blu-ray discs, for
example, can insist that the video be played back in high definition
only if it is output via a connection that supports the HDCP protection
system on a PC and a TV or monitor.
That could prove a problem for many PC users whose graphics cards have a
DVI or component video connection which do not support HDCP.
Microsoft said that if picture quality was degraded it would still be
better than current DVD quality.
Mr Marsh also denied reports that the degradation would impact all video
output, insisting it would only apply to premium content video.
'Very unhappy'
Mr Gutmann told BBC News: "It's reassuring that they are saying that
only the ability to playback high definition video can be revoked.
"But if consumers have gone out and paid thousands of dollars on high
quality, high resolution, high definition displays and find the content
is downscaled or there is no picture at all, they are going to be very
unhappy.
"Some of the feedback I have been getting indicates that HD-DVD discs
are not playing on some PCs."
Mr Gutmann also highlighted the extra demands put on a computer's CPU to
handle Vista's Content Protection systems.
Microsoft admitted that the CPU will be taxed further but Mr Marsh said
"Vista's Content Protection features were developed to carefully balance
the need to provide robust protection... while still enabling great new
experiences..."
Mr Gutmann said it was insincere of Microsoft to lay the responsibility
for the increased copy protection systems at the feet of content
providers.
He said: "Saying 'we were only following orders' has historically proven
not to be a very good excuse.
"If you have got the protection measures there, the impulse is to use
the most stringent ones at your disposal.
"In general, some sort of DRM is necessary, but we need to strike a
balance. It's very consumer-hostile technology that is being deployed."
/end
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Vista copy protection is defended {Content Protection specification as "the longest suicide note in history} |
09 Feb 2007 12:37:32 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:51:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jmkns2dj64ipl406hkvj91r20ru2fjfce7@4ax.com>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6286245.stm
Monday, 22 January 2007, 12:12 GMT
Vista copy protection is defended
Microsoft has defended the digital rights management systems integrated
into its new Vista operating system.
It follows reports that Vista would "downgrade" the quality of all video
and audio, if they were not output via approved connections on the PC.
Microsoft said only the quality of "premium content" would be lowered,
and only if requested by copyright holders.
The measures are in place, says the firm, to protect content such as
high definition movies from being copied.
Vista's copy protection systems have come under fire from many quarters,
including recently from Peter Gutmann, a computer science lecturer at
the University of Auckland.
In a report looking at the impact Vista would have on video and audio
playback, he described Vista's Content Protection specification as "the
longest suicide note in history".
He said Vista was "broken by design" and intentionally crippled the way
it displayed video.
"The sheer obnoxiousness of Vista's content protection may end up being
the biggest incentive to piracy yet created," he wrote.
Enforced
In a response to the paper, Dave Marsh, lead program manager for video
at Microsoft, said many of the copy protection systems enforced by Vista
were common on all playback devices.
He said Vista did have the capability of downgrading video and audio
quality, like other devices, but that it would only be activated "when
required by the policy associated with the content being played".
The copyright holders of content on HD-DVD and Blu-ray discs, for
example, can insist that the video be played back in high definition
only if it is output via a connection that supports the HDCP protection
system on a PC and a TV or monitor.
That could prove a problem for many PC users whose graphics cards have a
DVI or component video connection which do not support HDCP.
Microsoft said that if picture quality was degraded it would still be
better than current DVD quality.
Mr Marsh also denied reports that the degradation would impact all video
output, insisting it would only apply to premium content video.
'Very unhappy'
Mr Gutmann told BBC News: "It's reassuring that they are saying that
only the ability to playback high definition video can be revoked.
"But if consumers have gone out and paid thousands of dollars on high
quality, high resolution, high definition displays and find the content
is downscaled or there is no picture at all, they are going to be very
unhappy.
"Some of the feedback I have been getting indicates that HD-DVD discs
are not playing on some PCs."
Mr Gutmann also highlighted the extra demands put on a computer's CPU to
handle Vista's Content Protection systems.
Microsoft admitted that the CPU will be taxed further but Mr Marsh said
"Vista's Content Protection features were developed to carefully balance
the need to provide robust protection... while still enabling great new
experiences..."
Mr Gutmann said it was insincere of Microsoft to lay the responsibility
for the increased copy protection systems at the feet of content
providers.
He said: "Saying 'we were only following orders' has historically proven
not to be a very good excuse.
"If you have got the protection measures there, the impulse is to use
the most stringent ones at your disposal.
"In general, some sort of DRM is necessary, but we need to strike a
balance. It's very consumer-hostile technology that is being deployed."
/end
It is *****-easy to defeat.
Non-event really.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Vista copy protection is defended {Content Protection specification as "the longest suicide note in history} |
09 Feb 2007 05:39:17 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:07:32 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:51:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jmkns2dj64ipl406hkvj91r20ru2fjfce7@4ax.com>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6286245.stm
Monday, 22 January 2007, 12:12 GMT
Vista copy protection is defended
Microsoft has defended the digital rights management systems integrated
into its new Vista operating system.
It follows reports that Vista would "downgrade" the quality of all video
and audio, if they were not output via approved connections on the PC.
Microsoft said only the quality of "premium content" would be lowered,
and only if requested by copyright holders.
The measures are in place, says the firm, to protect content such as
high definition movies from being copied.
Vista's copy protection systems have come under fire from many quarters,
including recently from Peter Gutmann, a computer science lecturer at
the University of Auckland.
In a report looking at the impact Vista would have on video and audio
playback, he described Vista's Content Protection specification as "the
longest suicide note in history".
He said Vista was "broken by design" and intentionally crippled the way
it displayed video.
"The sheer obnoxiousness of Vista's content protection may end up being
the biggest incentive to piracy yet created," he wrote.
Enforced
In a response to the paper, Dave Marsh, lead program manager for video
at Microsoft, said many of the copy protection systems enforced by Vista
were common on all playback devices.
He said Vista did have the capability of downgrading video and audio
quality, like other devices, but that it would only be activated "when
required by the policy associated with the content being played".
The copyright holders of content on HD-DVD and Blu-ray discs, for
example, can insist that the video be played back in high definition
only if it is output via a connection that supports the HDCP protection
system on a PC and a TV or monitor.
That could prove a problem for many PC users whose graphics cards have a
DVI or component video connection which do not support HDCP.
Microsoft said that if picture quality was degraded it would still be
better than current DVD quality.
Mr Marsh also denied reports that the degradation would impact all video
output, insisting it would only apply to premium content video.
'Very unhappy'
Mr Gutmann told BBC News: "It's reassuring that they are saying that
only the ability to playback high definition video can be revoked.
"But if consumers have gone out and paid thousands of dollars on high
quality, high resolution, high definition displays and find the content
is downscaled or there is no picture at all, they are going to be very
unhappy.
"Some of the feedback I have been getting indicates that HD-DVD discs
are not playing on some PCs."
Mr Gutmann also highlighted the extra demands put on a computer's CPU to
handle Vista's Content Protection systems.
Microsoft admitted that the CPU will be taxed further but Mr Marsh said
"Vista's Content Protection features were developed to carefully balance
the need to provide robust protection... while still enabling great new
experiences..."
Mr Gutmann said it was insincere of Microsoft to lay the responsibility
for the increased copy protection systems at the feet of content
providers.
He said: "Saying 'we were only following orders' has historically proven
not to be a very good excuse.
"If you have got the protection measures there, the impulse is to use
the most stringent ones at your disposal.
"In general, some sort of DRM is necessary, but we need to strike a
balance. It's very consumer-hostile technology that is being deployed."
/end
It is *****-easy to defeat.
Non-event really.
I think they design it that way intentionally. They toss it in as a
CYA measure to appease the megabuck conglomerates who hold the
copyrights, but make it so easy to get around that almost anyone but a
total noob can do it.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Vista copy protection is defended {Content Protectionspecification as "the longest suicide note in history} |
09 Feb 2007 06:51:47 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:51:32 -0800, stoney wrote:
"The sheer obnoxiousness of Vista's content protection may end up being
the biggest incentive to piracy yet created," he wrote.
<snicker>
And at a time when record companies are beginning to abandon the whole
idea because of consumer backlash and the continuing collapse of CD sales...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation
by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging
rational inquiry." - Richard Dawkins
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Vista copy protection is defended {Content Protection specification as "the longest suicide note in history} |
11 Feb 2007 06:25:12 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 06:51:47 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:51:32 -0800, stoney wrote:
"The sheer obnoxiousness of Vista's content protection may end up being
the biggest incentive to piracy yet created," he wrote.
<snicker>
And at a time when record companies are beginning to abandon the whole
idea because of consumer backlash and the continuing collapse of CD sales...
The fall in CD sales is their fault of course.
I love it personally.
I paid something like $14.00 to get a CD with Bette Midler singing the
Rose and it was the only song on the CD worth a damn.
I don't download copyrighted material but I will pay per song or video
and thats the future.
They had best get accustomed to the idea.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Vista copy protection is defended {Content Protectionspecification as "the longest suicide note in history} |
12 Feb 2007 09:25:00 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:25:12 -0600, atheist wrote:
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 06:51:47 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:51:32 -0800, stoney wrote:
"The sheer obnoxiousness of Vista's content protection may end up being
the biggest incentive to piracy yet created," he wrote.
<snicker>
And at a time when record companies are beginning to abandon the whole
idea because of consumer backlash and the continuing collapse of CD sales...
The fall in CD sales is their fault of course.
I love it personally.
I paid something like $14.00 to get a CD with Bette Midler singing the
Rose and it was the only song on the CD worth a damn.
I don't download copyrighted material but I will pay per song or video
and thats the future.
They had best get accustomed to the idea.
They do need to get over it. And *somebody should be looking into the
vanishing act of the "CD single." You want to talk classic anti-trust?
They conspired to eliminate the single to force us all to buy entire
albums for one song *then had tirades when people started downloading
single songs.
Heh. Every now and again, I used to pop over to the RIAA site and send
them a comment like:
"Let's see, when downloading came along, I started sampling songs and
hearing what music was out there which lead to me buying CDs. Now I can't
download and see what new music is out there and, funny thing, I don't buy
CDs anymore. Good job!"
There are actual charts tracking the rise and fall of Napster with the
rise *and *fall of CD sales running parallel to it.
I also won't buy single songs because of all the DRM crap. For one, they
don't like Linux (because it's for haaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkuuurs!). For two,
they're trying to push us to a "rental" model and I ain't going.
I just switched cell providers because I can't get a damn signal from
Sprint in my area. My new phone, of course, can do everything except the
dishes (that would impress me but short of that...). I was playing with it
last night to figure where all the controls and options and such were and
looked at the video and music it's capable of.
One of the things that was hysterical was that music videos are 99 cents
for 24 hours of access.
As if I'm going to pay them a dollar every time. And that's for the
"privilege" of squinting at a small screen?
They all need to go bankrupt already...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.
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