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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Pussy boy"
Date: 18 Dec 2003 06:41:16 PM
Object: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms
Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.
"Even in times of national emergency... it is the obligation of the judicial
branch to ensure the preservation of our constitutional values and to
prevent the executive branch from running roughshod over the rights of
citizens and aliens alike," the 2-1 ruling by the Ninth Circuit Court of
Appeals said.
I agree with this ruling.
I'm amazed at how fucked up Bush truly is. I sincerely hope for their own
sakes that the American people get rid of this criminal and repeal the
Patriot Act.
***
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3332739.stm
Double legal terror blow for Bush


About 660 people are being held at the base in Guantanamo Bay
The Bush administration has suffered two legal setbacks in its efforts to
curtail the rights of those it accuses of being involved in terrorism.
A federal appeals court has ruled US authorities do not have the power to
detain a US citizen seized on US soil as an "enemy combatant".
And a court said detainees being held by the US military at Guantanamo Bay
in Cuba should have access to lawyers.
However, analysts say both rulings could be overturned by higher courts.
'Flawed' decision
The appeal court in New York ruled that Jose Padilla - a US citizen arrested
at Chicago airport and accused of being involved in a plot to set off a
radiological weapon, cannot be held indefinitely in a military prison.

Jose Padilla is currently being held in a military jail
Mr Padilla has been held in a naval facility in Charleston, South Carolina,
since June 2002 as an enemy combatant following a presidential decree.
Mr Padilla is thought to be the only US citizen since World War II to be
detained on a presidential order.
The court said that, although it recognised that the US Government had a
responsibility to protect the nation, presidential authority "does not exist
in a vacuum".
The judges said Mr Padilla should be released from military custody, but
added that the US Government was free to transfer him to civilian
jurisdiction.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan called the court's ruling "troubling
and flawed" and said the US Justice Department would seek a stay on the
court's ruling and request further judicial review.
'Challenging' trend
The decision came shortly after another US federal appeals court ruled that
detainees being held by the US military at Camp Delta in Guantanamo Bay,
Cuba should have access to lawyers.
The Guantanamo ruling - relating to the case of a Libyan national captured
in Afghanistan - is the first to overrule the US administration's position
that the men held there can be detained indefinitely without legal recourse.
"Even in times of national emergency... it is the obligation of the judicial
branch to ensure the preservation of our constitutional values and to
prevent the executive branch from running roughshod over the rights of
citizens and aliens alike," the 2-1 ruling by the Ninth Circuit Court of
Appeals said.
The issue of representation in US courts for Guantanamo detainees is already
under investigation by the nation's highest legal body, the US Supreme
Court.
BBC correspondent Justin Webb in Washington says this judgement will
probably not take effect until the Court rules next year on the issue and it
could be overturned.
Nonetheless, the decisions are a sign of a growing tendency by US judges to
challenge the Bush administration in this legal area, our correspondent
adds.
--
Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
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User: "Tommy"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 18 Dec 2003 06:46:01 PM
***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.

Does he go to AA - maybe he could do a few of the 12 steps - like taking a
moral inventory. Many a criminal has found recovery, peace, joy and
freedom,
Who the fsck is this bush fellow anyway, wouldn't you do better praying for
him.
Send a donation to the 'Free All Repressed Terrorists ", put a bit of wind
in their sales :-)
and claim your taxes back
Cheers
Tommy
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User: "F.U."

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 30 Dec 2003 01:56:53 PM
"Tommy" <tormyleprechaun@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.


Does he go to AA -

Judging from the "deer in the headlights look" he gives the media, I'd say
he does...
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 30 Dec 2003 03:53:35 PM
"F.U." <fu@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Tommy" <tormyleprechaun@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.


Does he go to AA -


Judging from the "deer in the headlights look" he gives the media, I'd say
he does...


You can learn more about the candidates if you stay aware of politicians
in general before they run for President, than from all of the blow by blow
campaign crap. E.g., when Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, he was
in the news for his involvement in a water pollution issue, of chicken *****
running off into the watershed. That characterized his whole administration.
When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and proceeded in
executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around outside,
I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do it again.
U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.
.
User: "F.H."

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personalfreedoms 30 Dec 2003 04:34:26 PM
"Douglas D. Anderson" wrote:

You can learn more about the candidates if you stay aware of politicians
in general before they run for President, than from all of the blow by blow
campaign crap. E.g., when Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, he was
in the news for his involvement in a water pollution issue, of chicken *****
running off into the watershed. That characterized his whole administration.
When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and proceeded in
executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around outside,
I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do it again.
U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.

Was he famous for his stands on polluting the environment?
.
User: "Johnny Bravo"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 30 Dec 2003 07:31:14 PM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:34:26 GMT, "F.H."
<disconnectedxxxxx@chimpthlinkxxx.net> wrote:

When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and proceeded in
executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around outside,

The Governor of Texas does not have the power to execute anyone; he
does not have the power to issue a pardon or give clemency, he only
has the power to stay an execution for 30 days. Don't let any facts
get in the way of your idiotic ranting though.

I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do it again.
U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.


Was he famous for his stands on polluting the environment?

In 1995 when GWB became Governor, Texas was the most poluted state
in the country. He can hardly be blamed for the situation that was
created by his predecessors. After taking office Texas led the nation
in the reduction of toxic releases from 1995 to 1998. According to
the EPA 1998 Toxic Release Inventory, Texas had dropped from First to
the Fith in total emissions in the air, water and soil where it
remained in 1999. In 1995, Texas accounted for 11.4% of the nations
toxic releases, in 1999 that figure had dropped to 4.1%.
--
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability
of the human mind to correlate all its contents." - H.P. Lovecraft
.


User: "Drier"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 30 Dec 2003 06:26:34 PM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:53:35 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"F.U." <fu@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Tommy" <tormyleprechaun@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.


Does he go to AA -


Judging from the "deer in the headlights look" he gives the media, I'd say
he does...



You can learn more about the candidates if you stay aware of politicians
in general before they run for President, than from all of the blow by blow
campaign crap. E.g., when Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, he was
in the news for his involvement in a water pollution issue, of chicken *****
running off into the watershed. That characterized his whole administration.
When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and proceeded in
executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around outside,
I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do it again.

You should educate yourself a bit about capital punishment in general
and in particular in Texas.
First of all, it is not the executive branch which sentences convicted
criminals.
Secondly, in Texas, the Governor does not have to power to stay
executions. This stems from corruption (in the US? Yes, Virginia,
there is corruption in the US) earlier last century.
It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.

U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.

.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 30 Dec 2003 06:32:56 PM
"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message news:9o54vv453nh4jav5q61191c5niin7mu2b4@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:53:35 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"F.U." <fu@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Tommy" <tormyleprechaun@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.


Does he go to AA -


Judging from the "deer in the headlights look" he gives the media, I'd say
he does...



You can learn more about the candidates if you stay aware of politicians
in general before they run for President, than from all of the blow by blow
campaign crap. E.g., when Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, he was
in the news for his involvement in a water pollution issue, of chicken *****
running off into the watershed. That characterized his whole administration.
When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and proceeded in
executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around outside,
I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do it again.


You should educate yourself a bit about capital punishment in general
and in particular in Texas.

First of all, it is not the executive branch which sentences convicted
criminals.

Secondly, in Texas, the Governor does not have to power to stay
executions. This stems from corruption (in the US? Yes, Virginia,
there is corruption in the US) earlier last century.

You need to stay in the oven a bit longer- the Texas Governor does have
the power to stay execution for thirty days. What you mean is -commute
sentence-, which he does not have, without the recommendation of an 18
member Board of Pardons and Paroles.


It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.

It's too bad ignorant fools like you have the freedom to freely speak
your ignorant errors publicly.




U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.


.
User: "Kai"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personalfreedoms 31 Dec 2003 01:32:00 AM
Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message news:9o54vv453nh4jav5q61191c5niin7mu2b4@4ax.com...


It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.



It's too bad ignorant fools like you have the freedom to freely speak
your ignorant errors publicly.

I'm sure you'd put a stop to all that free speech nonsense if you only
could.
--
Kai
"Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines."
- General "Buck" Turgidson -
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 31 Dec 2003 09:17:56 AM
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Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message

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It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.



It's too bad ignorant fools like you have the freedom to freely speak
your ignorant errors publicly.


I'm sure you'd put a stop to all that free speech nonsense if you only
could.

Abslutely not. If I didn't think America was the best place to be I'd move
to Finland.... well, maybe not... fact is, there's a whole world out there.

--
Kai

"Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines."
- General "Buck" Turgidson -

.


User: "Drier"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 31 Dec 2003 01:10:20 PM
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:32:56 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message news:9o54vv453nh4jav5q61191c5niin7mu2b4@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:53:35 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"F.U." <fu@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Tommy" <tormyleprechaun@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.


Does he go to AA -


Judging from the "deer in the headlights look" he gives the media, I'd say
he does...



You can learn more about the candidates if you stay aware of politicians
in general before they run for President, than from all of the blow by blow
campaign crap. E.g., when Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, he was
in the news for his involvement in a water pollution issue, of chicken *****
running off into the watershed. That characterized his whole administration.
When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and proceeded in
executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around outside,
I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do it again.


You should educate yourself a bit about capital punishment in general
and in particular in Texas.

First of all, it is not the executive branch which sentences convicted
criminals.

Secondly, in Texas, the Governor does not have to power to stay
executions. This stems from corruption (in the US? Yes, Virginia,
there is corruption in the US) earlier last century.


You need to stay in the oven a bit longer- the Texas Governor does have
the power to stay execution for thirty days. What you mean is -commute
sentence-, which he does not have, without the recommendation of an 18
member Board of Pardons and Paroles.

So you do know how it works, but you misrepresent it until taken to
task.
Very good.





It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.


It's too bad ignorant fools like you have the freedom to freely speak
your ignorant errors publicly.

It's too bad you don't believe in free speech.





U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.



.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 31 Dec 2003 01:39:57 PM
"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message news:8n76vv8r4cm7rhbbblj04pi6iljicgi2f7@4ax.com...

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:32:56 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:53:35 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"F.U." <fu@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Tommy" <tormyleprechaun@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.


Does he go to AA -


Judging from the "deer in the headlights look" he gives the media, I'd say
he does...



You can learn more about the candidates if you stay aware of politicians
in general before they run for President, than from all of the blow by blow
campaign crap. E.g., when Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, he was
in the news for his involvement in a water pollution issue, of chicken *****
running off into the watershed. That characterized his whole administration.
When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and proceeded in
executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around outside,
I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do it again.


You should educate yourself a bit about capital punishment in general
and in particular in Texas.

First of all, it is not the executive branch which sentences convicted
criminals.

Secondly, in Texas, the Governor does not have to power to stay
executions. This stems from corruption (in the US? Yes, Virginia,
there is corruption in the US) earlier last century.


You need to stay in the oven a bit longer- the Texas Governor does have
the power to stay execution for thirty days. What you mean is -commute
sentence-, which he does not have, without the recommendation of an 18
member Board of Pardons and Paroles.


So you do know how it works, but you misrepresent it until taken to
task.

Very good.





It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.


It's too bad ignorant fools like you have the freedom to freely speak
your ignorant errors publicly.


It's too bad you don't believe in free speech.

Oh but I do.... I also encourage ignorant fools to vote.






U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.




.
User: "MosZibby APATHY@ATJ"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 31 Dec 2003 08:27:53 PM
"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
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"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:32:56 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:53:35 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"F.U." <fu@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Tommy" <tormyleprechaun@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.


Does he go to AA -


Judging from the "deer in the headlights look" he gives the media,

I'd say

he does...



You can learn more about the candidates if you stay aware of

politicians

in general before they run for President, than from all of the blow

by blow

campaign crap. E.g., when Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, he

was

in the news for his involvement in a water pollution issue, of

chicken *****

running off into the watershed. That characterized his whole

administration.

When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and

proceeded in

executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around

outside,

I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do

it again.


You should educate yourself a bit about capital punishment in general
and in particular in Texas.

First of all, it is not the executive branch which sentences

convicted

criminals.

Secondly, in Texas, the Governor does not have to power to stay
executions. This stems from corruption (in the US? Yes, Virginia,
there is corruption in the US) earlier last century.


You need to stay in the oven a bit longer- the Texas Governor does have
the power to stay execution for thirty days. What you mean is -commute
sentence-, which he does not have, without the recommendation of an 18
member Board of Pardons and Paroles.


So you do know how it works, but you misrepresent it until taken to
task.

Very good.





It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.


It's too bad ignorant fools like you have the freedom to freely speak
your ignorant errors publicly.


It's too bad you don't believe in free speech.


Oh but I do.... I also encourage ignorant fools to vote.

That explains how Clinton got into the Whitehouse.








U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.






.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 31 Dec 2003 08:51:03 PM
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"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
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"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:32:56 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:53:35 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"F.U." <fu@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Tommy" <tormyleprechaun@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.


Does he go to AA -


Judging from the "deer in the headlights look" he gives the media,

I'd say

he does...



You can learn more about the candidates if you stay aware of

politicians

in general before they run for President, than from all of the blow

by blow

campaign crap. E.g., when Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, he

was

in the news for his involvement in a water pollution issue, of

chicken *****

running off into the watershed. That characterized his whole

administration.

When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and

proceeded in

executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around

outside,

I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do

it again.


You should educate yourself a bit about capital punishment in general
and in particular in Texas.

First of all, it is not the executive branch which sentences

convicted

criminals.

Secondly, in Texas, the Governor does not have to power to stay
executions. This stems from corruption (in the US? Yes, Virginia,
there is corruption in the US) earlier last century.


You need to stay in the oven a bit longer- the Texas Governor does have
the power to stay execution for thirty days. What you mean is -commute
sentence-, which he does not have, without the recommendation of an 18
member Board of Pardons and Paroles.


So you do know how it works, but you misrepresent it until taken to
task.

Very good.





It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.


It's too bad ignorant fools like you have the freedom to freely speak
your ignorant errors publicly.


It's too bad you don't believe in free speech.


Oh but I do.... I also encourage ignorant fools to vote.


That explains how Clinton got into the Whitehouse.

While I got a chuckle out of that, I've got to say that part of being an
American is playing along with the majority, while still recognizing that
the rights of the minority figure into the picture (using minority in its
actual sense, not the perverted modern sense of "dark skinned"). I
think that even if a Libertarian or Larouchite gets elected, the main
thing is that the ballot box is the first line of defense against established
governments. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and we the people
need to keep our leaders a bit insecure.









U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.








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User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 01 Jan 2004 01:41:46 PM
"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote

(using minority in its actual sense, not the perverted modern
sense of "dark skinned").

Can you say "troll"?
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 01 Jan 2004 03:41:08 PM
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote


"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote

(using minority in its actual sense, not the perverted modern
sense of "dark skinned").


Can you say "troll"?

There's some irony there, but I did want to make clear that when I
spoke of the rights of the minority, I do mean in the classical sense,
in which, for example, in a meeting of ten landlords and a hundred
tenants, the landlords are in the minority. In the modern sense, the
one hundred tenants might be called the minority.
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 01 Jan 2004 09:49:41 PM
"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote

Can you say "troll"?

There's some irony there,

In fact, you're swimming in it!
.



User: "MosZibby APATHY@ATJ"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 31 Dec 2003 08:54:55 PM
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:32:56 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


"Drier" <drunkard@dev.null> wrote in message

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:53:35 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com>


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"Tommy" <tormyleprechaun@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.


Does he go to AA -


Judging from the "deer in the headlights look" he gives the

media,

I'd say

he does...



You can learn more about the candidates if you stay aware of

politicians

in general before they run for President, than from all of the

blow

by blow

campaign crap. E.g., when Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas,

he

was

in the news for his involvement in a water pollution issue, of

chicken *****

running off into the watershed. That characterized his whole

administration.

When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for

executing

as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and

proceeded in

executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping

around

outside,

I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll

do

it again.


You should educate yourself a bit about capital punishment in

general

and in particular in Texas.

First of all, it is not the executive branch which sentences

convicted

criminals.

Secondly, in Texas, the Governor does not have to power to stay
executions. This stems from corruption (in the US? Yes,

Virginia,

there is corruption in the US) earlier last century.


You need to stay in the oven a bit longer- the Texas Governor does

have

the power to stay execution for thirty days. What you mean

is -commute

sentence-, which he does not have, without the recommendation of an

18

member Board of Pardons and Paroles.


So you do know how it works, but you misrepresent it until taken to
task.

Very good.





It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.


It's too bad ignorant fools like you have the freedom to freely

speak

your ignorant errors publicly.


It's too bad you don't believe in free speech.


Oh but I do.... I also encourage ignorant fools to vote.


That explains how Clinton got into the Whitehouse.


While I got a chuckle out of that, I've got to say that part of being an
American is playing along with the majority, while still recognizing that
the rights of the minority figure into the picture (using minority in its
actual sense, not the perverted modern sense of "dark skinned"). I
think that even if a Libertarian or Larouchite gets elected, the main
thing is that the ballot box is the first line of defense against

established

governments. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and we the people
need to keep our leaders a bit insecure.

Seems the last line also ties in with gun grabbing laws.


U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.

.





User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 31 Dec 2003 10:39:31 PM
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:32:56 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes:



It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.


It's too bad ignorant fools like you have the freedom to freely speak
your ignorant errors publicly.

I disagree. Ignorant fools should be given the opportunity to prove
it as often as possible.
--
V.G.
"People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it is easier to harrass
rich women than it is motorcycle gangs." - Bumper Sticker
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User: "MosZibby APATHY@ATJ"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 01 Jan 2004 09:20:47 AM
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:32:56 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes:



It's too bad ignorant fools like you are allowed to vote.


It's too bad ignorant fools like you have the freedom to freely speak
your ignorant errors publicly.


I disagree. Ignorant fools should be given the opportunity to prove
it as often as possible.

Well, that names all of ATJ. DouG excluded.

--
V.G.

"People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it is

easier to harrass

rich women than it is motorcycle gangs." - Bumper Sticker
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)

Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.

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User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 30 Dec 2003 04:19:45 PM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

... When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and proceeded in
executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around outside,
I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do it again.
U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.

Grant's judgment may have been clouded off and on from tippling, but it's
not likely it was clouded by an inclination to trash separation of
state/church as is George Bush's.
.
User: "Artfulcodger"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 30 Dec 2003 04:26:08 PM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

... When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and proceeded in
executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around

outside,

I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do it

again.

U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.


Grant's judgment may have been clouded off and on from tippling, but it's
not likely it was clouded by an inclination to trash separation of
state/church as is George Bush's.

You want world leaders as tipplers do not exclude Winston Churchill, now
that boy could tipple.
The Codge
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User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 30 Dec 2003 04:31:54 PM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

... When George Bush was Governor of Texas, and was famous for executing
as many capital criminals as he could get his hands on, and proceeded in
executions with a smile even when protesters were stomping around outside,
I knew he was the right man for the job, voted for him, and I'll do it again.
U.S.Grant was a tippler too, but won the Civil War.


Grant's judgment may have been clouded off and on from tippling, but it's
not likely it was clouded by an inclination to trash separation of
state/church as is George Bush's.

You're right. He was an earnest Christian who ordered his men to
church and appreciated and enforced the Presidential orders to hold
days of Christian prayer and thanksgiving. In those days people knew
how to read the Constitution and understood what it meant. They
took for granted the Christian religion, expected everyone to go to
church, and knew the amendment simply meant there will not be a
specific established national church. The historical context of this
was of course the Church of England, which the colonists were
required to support, also called "the established church". In those
days, most Americans were familiar with history. The modern spin
on that amendment is not what the authors meant.
.




User: "Artfulcodger"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 18 Dec 2003 06:50:06 PM
"Tommy" <tormyleprechaun@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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***** boy wrote in alt recovery aa -

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.


Does he go to AA - maybe he could do a few of the 12 steps - like taking a
moral inventory. Many a criminal has found recovery, peace, joy and
freedom,
Who the fsck is this bush fellow anyway, wouldn't you do better praying

for

him.

Send a donation to the 'Free All Repressed Terrorists ", put a bit of wind
in their sales :-)
and claim your taxes back
Cheers
Tommy


Sure let's all send money to FART
.


User: "Fester"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 23 Dec 2003 04:36:52 PM

ruling by the Ninth Circuit Court of
Appeals said.

'Nuff said ***** Boy
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 23 Dec 2003 11:37:27 PM
"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote

ruling by the Ninth Circuit Court of
Appeals said.

'Nuff said ***** Boy

On the contrary, you dickless gnat, you've said far too much.
.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 24 Dec 2003 05:27:42 AM
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"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote

ruling by the Ninth Circuit Court of
Appeals said.


'Nuff said ***** Boy


On the contrary, you dickless gnat, you've said far too much.

Monkey changed his address I see.
<plonk>
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 24 Dec 2003 12:57:14 PM
"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote

Monkey changed his address I see.

Um, no. But you're not very observant.
.




User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 20 Dec 2003 04:12:26 PM
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:41:16 +0200, "***** boy" <fdhfhf@djfdjdjf.com>
wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes:

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.

"Even in times of national emergency... it is the obligation of the judicial
branch to ensure the preservation of our constitutional values and to
prevent the executive branch from running roughshod over the rights of
citizens and aliens alike," the 2-1 ruling by the Ninth Circuit Court of
Appeals said.

I agree with this ruling.

Nobody gives half a ***** what you agree with, Asshat. HTH.
--
V.G.
"People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it is easier to harrass
rich women than it is motorcycle gangs." - Bumper Sticker
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
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User: "Dr Tormento"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 21 Dec 2003 05:59:26 AM
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:41:16 +0200, "***** boy" <fdhfhf@djfdjdjf.com>
wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes:

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.

"Even in times of national emergency... it is the obligation of the
judicial branch to ensure the preservation of our constitutional
values and to prevent the executive branch from running roughshod over
the rights of citizens and aliens alike," the 2-1 ruling by the Ninth
Circuit Court of Appeals said.

I agree with this ruling.


Nobody gives half a ***** what you agree with, Asshat. HTH.

Wrong. If I had his address, I'd mail him half a *****.
.
User: "John"

Title: Re: vote Bush out or suffer the most dire consequences to your personal freedoms 21 Dec 2003 01:27:09 PM
On 21 Dec 2003 11:59:26 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com> wrote in
message <Xns94584745146DFrforschrcncom@199.184.165.239>:

"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:41:16 +0200, "***** boy" <fdhfhf@djfdjdjf.com>
wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes:

Let's face it, Bush is out of control. He is a criminal.
"Even in times of national emergency... it is the obligation of the
judicial branch to ensure the preservation of our constitutional
values and to prevent the executive branch from running roughshod over
the rights of citizens and aliens alike," the 2-1 ruling by the Ninth
Circuit Court of Appeals said.
I agree with this ruling.

Nobody gives half a ***** what you agree with, Asshat. HTH.

Wrong. If I had his address, I'd mail him half a *****.

would you really?
if you promise you'll do it, i'll give you my street address.
i'm feeling hungry.
i know i'm being greedy now, but would it be possible for you to mail me an
entire sack of *****?
in fact it would be great if everyone reading this would mail me a sack of
*****.
Greg Evans is going to be sooooooooooo jealous!
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Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
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