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08 Mar 2007 11:28:04 AM |
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Walter Reed Hosptial run by............... |
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:espe3e$h23$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
I've visited wounded friends at W. Reed.
It was a beautiful place then.......Like 1972-73.
Sucks that it's been allowed to go downhill.
I wonder if the Clinton era military buget cuts
affected it.....I'll look into it.
I haven't heard the HMFIC's side of the story.
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"The wages of sin are death, but by the time taxes are taken out, it's
just sort of a tired feeling". -Paula Poundstone
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08 Mar 2007 09:50:30 PM |
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On 8 Mar 2007 09:28:04 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:espe3e$h23$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
I've visited wounded friends at W. Reed.
It was a beautiful place then.......Like 1972-73.
Sucks that it's been allowed to go downhill.
I wonder if the Clinton era military buget cuts
affected it.....I'll look into it.
The damage seems to have begun under the Greatest Secretary of Defense
We Have Ever Had, Donald Rumsfield.
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| User: "magilla" |
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10 Mar 2007 03:12:36 PM |
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On Mar 8, 10:50 pm, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
On 8 Mar 2007 09:28:04 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.H...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <c...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:espe3e$h23$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
I've visited wounded friends at W. Reed.
It was a beautiful place then.......Like 1972-73.
Sucks that it's been allowed to go downhill.
I wonder if the Clinton era military buget cuts
affected it.....I'll look into it.
By all means, you go ahead and do that.
And if you aren't a total coward and poltroon, you'll come back and
report that those "Clinton era military budget cuts" were budget
increases. In case you missed it, we were a prosperous country under
Clinton. The military was built up, not cut.
You go ahead and look.
Then think about this: the army that did what no other army ever
accomplished in all recorded history was Clinton's army. What the
British Empire couldn't do despite 50 years of war, what the Soviet
might couldn't do despite 20 years of occupation, Clinton's army
accomplished in months. Clinton's army subdued Afghanistan, and it was
squandered by Bush's- and yours, apparently- need to show Saddam you
had a bigger weewee than he did. Bush was in office less than a year
when he invaded Afghanistan- you think that was his army? If so you
are wrong. Now the President of Afghanistan controls his palace and
not much else, opium crops are at bumper levels, and our troops- plus
the Reserves and National Guard, the ones that should have, could
have, been in New Orleans rinning the heavy equipment that kept the
levees up long enough to save the city- they're still dying. Or
coming home missing eyes and breasts and legs and arms but it's OK,
cause your vote went to the guy who won't let the photographers in to
take pictures, and you've got a bigger ***** than Saddam.
Chris
The damage seems to have begun under the Greatest Secretary of Defense
We Have Ever Had, Donald Rumsfield.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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10 Mar 2007 08:03:51 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:28:04 -0800, HVAC wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:espe3e$h23$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
I've visited wounded friends at W. Reed.
It was a beautiful place then.......Like 1972-73.
Sucks that it's been allowed to go downhill.
I wonder if the Clinton era military buget cuts
affected it.....I'll look into it.
Irrelevant. Even *if previous administrations made a mess of things, Bush
should have taken care to deal with the inevitable casualties before
taking us to war.
By the way, under Clinton, we weren't in a major war were we? Why do you
need to be prepared for the casualties of a major war when you're not at
war?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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10 Mar 2007 10:22:52 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:pan.2007.03.10.14.03.51.239480@com.mkbilbo:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:28:04 -0800, HVAC wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:espe3e$h23$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
I've visited wounded friends at W. Reed.
It was a beautiful place then.......Like 1972-73.
Sucks that it's been allowed to go downhill.
I wonder if the Clinton era military buget cuts
affected it.....I'll look into it.
Irrelevant. Even *if previous administrations made a mess of things,
Bush should have taken care to deal with the inevitable casualties
before taking us to war.
By the way, under Clinton, we weren't in a major war were we? Why do
you need to be prepared for the casualties of a major war when you're
not at war?
Uhh, Mark, that's the time when you *need* to be prepared for war, so
that you're not caught short when war comes.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "magilla" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Reed Hosptial run by............... |
10 Mar 2007 02:59:11 PM |
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On Mar 10, 11:22 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote innews:pan.2007.03.10.14.03.51.239480@com.mkbilbo:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:28:04 -0800, HVAC wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <c...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:espe3e$h23$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
I've visited wounded friends at W. Reed.
It was a beautiful place then.......Like 1972-73.
Sucks that it's been allowed to go downhill.
I wonder if the Clinton era military buget cuts
affected it.....I'll look into it.
Irrelevant. Even *if previous administrations made a mess of things,
Bush should have taken care to deal with the inevitable casualties
before taking us to war.
By the way, under Clinton, we weren't in a major war were we? Why do
you need to be prepared for the casualties of a major war when you're
not at war?
Uhh, Mark, that's the time when you *need* to be prepared for war, so
that you're not caught short when war comes.
There are nonessential expenses during peacetime that can result in
substantial savings. For example, as surses retire from little-used
facilities, they need not be replaced. Buildings can be mothballed-
if done properly they can last decades- and an effort can be made to
dispose of equipment that is at or near the end of its serviceable
life.
This is very much different from being in the middle of a conflict and
cutting the veterans budget, which Bush has done several times. This
is very much different from being inundated with casualties and
shopping out their care to a low-bid outfit that has profit as its
primary concern, which this administration did.
There's no way the buck is getting passed on this one, Fred.
Chris
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Reed Hosptial run by............... |
10 Mar 2007 07:23:24 PM |
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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1173560351.742486.105450@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:
On Mar 10, 11:22 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote
innews:pan.2007.03.10.14.03.51.239480@com.mkbilbo:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:28:04 -0800, HVAC wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <c...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:espe3e$h23$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
I've visited wounded friends at W. Reed.
It was a beautiful place then.......Like 1972-73.
Sucks that it's been allowed to go downhill.
I wonder if the Clinton era military buget cuts
affected it.....I'll look into it.
Irrelevant. Even *if previous administrations made a mess of
things, Bush should have taken care to deal with the inevitable
casualties before taking us to war.
By the way, under Clinton, we weren't in a major war were we? Why
do you need to be prepared for the casualties of a major war when
you're not at war?
Uhh, Mark, that's the time when you *need* to be prepared for war, so
that you're not caught short when war comes.
There are nonessential expenses during peacetime that can result in
substantial savings. For example, as surses retire from little-used
facilities, they need not be replaced. Buildings can be mothballed-
if done properly they can last decades- and an effort can be made to
dispose of equipment that is at or near the end of its serviceable
life.
This is very much different from being in the middle of a conflict and
cutting the veterans budget, which Bush has done several times.
Chris, this is not a problem that just sprang up during the Bush
administration. Don't pull that ***** with me.
This
is very much different from being inundated with casualties and
shopping out their care to a low-bid outfit that has profit as its
primary concern, which this administration did.
There's no way the buck is getting passed on this one, Fred.
Chris, the "buck" has been passed on this one for *years*, and there is
no fucking way that the Democrats *JUST NOW* are figuring out that there
is a problem here.
Don Imus, who is not any sort of a Republican partisan, just got done
reaming Chuck Schumer a new one for the Democrats' hypocrisy on this
issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV1YWBsKS6k&embed=1
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "magilla" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Reed Hosptial run by............... |
11 Mar 2007 03:34:34 PM |
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On Mar 10, 10:23 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"magilla" <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com> wrote innews:1173560351.742486.105450@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:
On Mar 10, 11:22 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote
innews:pan.2007.03.10.14.03.51.239480@com.mkbilbo:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:28:04 -0800, HVAC wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <c...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:espe3e$h23$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
I've visited wounded friends at W. Reed.
It was a beautiful place then.......Like 1972-73.
Sucks that it's been allowed to go downhill.
I wonder if the Clinton era military buget cuts
affected it.....I'll look into it.
Irrelevant. Even *if previous administrations made a mess of
things, Bush should have taken care to deal with the inevitable
casualties before taking us to war.
By the way, under Clinton, we weren't in a major war were we? Why
do you need to be prepared for the casualties of a major war when
you're not at war?
Uhh, Mark, that's the time when you *need* to be prepared for war, so
that you're not caught short when war comes.
There are nonessential expenses during peacetime that can result in
substantial savings. For example, as surses retire from little-used
facilities, they need not be replaced. Buildings can be mothballed-
if done properly they can last decades- and an effort can be made to
dispose of equipment that is at or near the end of its serviceable
life.
This is very much different from being in the middle of a conflict and
cutting the veterans budget, which Bush has done several times.
Chris, this is not a problem that just sprang up during the Bush
administration. Don't pull that ***** with me.
You're the one spewing *****, Fred. At the same time people were
coming home wounded, Bush was cutting their benefits. And yes, while
facilities might not have been preserved properly, in the last 2
Democratic administrations, there have not been this huge influx of
wounded soldiers. Why was Bush not gearing up for these casualties?
This
is very much different from being inundated with casualties and
shopping out their care to a low-bid outfit that has profit as its
primary concern, which this administration did.
There's no way the buck is getting passed on this one, Fred.
Chris, the "buck" has been passed on this one for *years*, and there is
no fucking way that the Democrats *JUST NOW* are figuring out that there
is a problem here.
Don Imus, who is not any sort of a Republican partisan, just got done
reaming Chuck Schumer a new one for the Democrats' hypocrisy on this
issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV1YWBsKS6k&embed=1
Like everything else Fred, you're totally fucked here. Imus IS a
Republican partisan. I've been listening to Imus on my morning commute
for 25 years, and all that time he's been fond of saying he's the only
registered Republican on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Imus has
ALWAYS been conservative, even in his drug and booze days. And as it
happens, I was in the car and I heard that Schumer interview live, and
Schumer admitted that Congress had fallen down off the oversight
wagon. He also pointed out something Imus didn't want to hear, namely
that there HAD been attempts by members to attach amendments to budget
bills to increase funding, mostly for the VA (which would not have
helped Walter Reed Hosp., but a LOT of other places would have
benefited). Listen carefully and Schumer actually cites a couple,
before Imus cuts him off. All voted down by the Republican majority.
Imus not a Republican- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Fred, how are things on
Neptune these days?
Chris
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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11 Mar 2007 04:52:18 PM |
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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1173645274.082668.196170@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
On Mar 10, 10:23 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"magilla" <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:1173560351.742486.105450@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:
On Mar 10, 11:22 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote
innews:pan.2007.03.10.14.03.51.239480@com.mkbilbo:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:28:04 -0800, HVAC wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <c...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:espe3e$h23$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
I've visited wounded friends at W. Reed.
It was a beautiful place then.......Like 1972-73.
Sucks that it's been allowed to go downhill.
I wonder if the Clinton era military buget cuts
affected it.....I'll look into it.
Irrelevant. Even *if previous administrations made a mess of
things, Bush should have taken care to deal with the inevitable
casualties before taking us to war.
By the way, under Clinton, we weren't in a major war were we?
Why do you need to be prepared for the casualties of a major war
when you're not at war?
Uhh, Mark, that's the time when you *need* to be prepared for war,
so that you're not caught short when war comes.
There are nonessential expenses during peacetime that can result in
substantial savings. For example, as surses retire from little-used
facilities, they need not be replaced. Buildings can be
mothballed- if done properly they can last decades- and an effort
can be made to dispose of equipment that is at or near the end of
its serviceable life.
This is very much different from being in the middle of a conflict
and cutting the veterans budget, which Bush has done several times.
Chris, this is not a problem that just sprang up during the Bush
administration. Don't pull that ***** with me.
You're the one spewing *****, Fred. At the same time people were
coming home wounded, Bush was cutting their benefits. And yes, while
facilities might not have been preserved properly, in the last 2
Democratic administrations, there have not been this huge influx of
wounded soldiers. Why was Bush not gearing up for these casualties?
This
is very much different from being inundated with casualties and
shopping out their care to a low-bid outfit that has profit as its
primary concern, which this administration did.
There's no way the buck is getting passed on this one, Fred.
Chris, the "buck" has been passed on this one for *years*, and there
is no fucking way that the Democrats *JUST NOW* are figuring out that
there is a problem here.
Don Imus, who is not any sort of a Republican partisan, just got done
reaming Chuck Schumer a new one for the Democrats' hypocrisy on this
issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV1YWBsKS6k&embed=1
Like everything else Fred, you're totally fucked here. Imus IS a
Republican partisan.
Just because *YOU* are a partisan doesn't mean that everybody is.
I've been listening to Imus on my morning commute
for 25 years, and all that time he's been fond of saying he's the only
registered Republican on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Imus has
ALWAYS been conservative, even in his drug and booze days.
That doesn't make him a partisan either. Keep digging.
And as it
happens, I was in the car and I heard that Schumer interview live, and
Schumer admitted that Congress had fallen down off the oversight
wagon. He also pointed out something Imus didn't want to hear, namely
that there HAD been attempts by members to attach amendments to budget
bills to increase funding, mostly for the VA (which would not have
helped Walter Reed Hosp., but a LOT of other places would have
benefited). Listen carefully and Schumer actually cites a couple,
before Imus cuts him off. All voted down by the Republican majority.
All of which are a big fat red herring: you even admit that he's not
talking about Walter Reed.
Imus not a Republican- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Fred, how are things on
Neptune these days?
When you recover your sanity and you finish avoiding the issue, Chris,
let the rest of us know, OK?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"...the Nevada Democratic Party caved in to the lunatic fringe and began
seeking a more "appropriate" television partner.
Comedy Central, perhaps?"
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| User: "magilla" |
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11 Mar 2007 07:29:07 PM |
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On Mar 11, 5:52 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
snip
Like everything else Fred, you're totally fucked here. Imus IS a
Republican partisan.
Just because *YOU* are a partisan doesn't mean that everybody is.
That crashing you hear is irony meters throughout the Milky Way
exploding in hopelessness.
Imus IS a Republican partisan. Did you hear the soft soap he gave the
Vice President at the Inaugaral Ball? It made Brit Hume puke.
I've been listening to Imus on my morning commute
for 25 years, and all that time he's been fond of saying he's the only
registered Republican on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Imus has
ALWAYS been conservative, even in his drug and booze days.
That doesn't make him a partisan either. Keep digging.
What it makes me is knowledgeable about Imus' politics. You know less
than squat.
The difference between Imus and you, however, is that he long ago
realized that Bush's war was a travesty. He's also done more to help
the people wounded and maimed in this horrific endeavor than the whole
administration, and the neocon scum who toss the vets away "like last
year's Ipod", to quote Imus again.
Chris
And as it
happens, I was in the car and I heard that Schumer interview live, and
Schumer admitted that Congress had fallen down off the oversight
wagon. He also pointed out something Imus didn't want to hear, namely
that there HAD been attempts by members to attach amendments to budget
bills to increase funding, mostly for the VA (which would not have
helped Walter Reed Hosp., but a LOT of other places would have
benefited). Listen carefully and Schumer actually cites a couple,
before Imus cuts him off. All voted down by the Republican majority.
All of which are a big fat red herring: you even admit that he's not
talking about Walter Reed.
Imus not a Republican- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Fred, how are things on
Neptune these days?
When you recover your sanity and you finish avoiding the issue, Chris,
let the rest of us know, OK?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"...the Nevada Democratic Party caved in to the lunatic fringe and began
seeking a more "appropriate" television partner.
Comedy Central, perhaps?"
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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12 Mar 2007 07:09:32 AM |
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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1173659347.067296.243320@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
On Mar 11, 5:52 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
snip
Like everything else Fred, you're totally fucked here. Imus IS a
Republican partisan.
Just because *YOU* are a partisan doesn't mean that everybody is.
That crashing you hear is irony meters throughout the Milky Way
exploding in hopelessness.
Imus IS a Republican partisan. Did you hear the soft soap he gave the
Vice President at the Inaugaral Ball? It made Brit Hume puke.
I've been listening to Imus on my morning commute
for 25 years, and all that time he's been fond of saying he's the
only registered Republican on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.
Imus has ALWAYS been conservative, even in his drug and booze days.
That doesn't make him a partisan either. Keep digging.
What it makes me is knowledgeable about Imus' politics. You know less
than squat.
The difference between Imus and you, however, is that he long ago
realized that Bush's war was a travesty. He's also done more to help
the people wounded and maimed in this horrific endeavor than the whole
administration, and the neocon scum who toss the vets away "like last
year's Ipod", to quote Imus again.
Thank you, Chris, for negating your entire phony line of argument.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"...the Nevada Democratic Party caved in to the lunatic fringe and began
seeking a more "appropriate" television partner.
Comedy Central, perhaps?"
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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13 Mar 2007 07:58:02 PM |
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On 11 Mar 2007 17:29:07 -0700, "magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mar 11, 5:52 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
snip
Like everything else Fred, you're totally fucked here. Imus IS a
Republican partisan.
Just because *YOU* are a partisan doesn't mean that everybody is.
That crashing you hear is irony meters throughout the Milky Way
exploding in hopelessness.
BWAHAHA
Fred Stone, so dishonest, he's funny.
Imus IS a Republican partisan. Did you hear the soft soap he gave the
Vice President at the Inaugaral Ball? It made Brit Hume puke.
I've been listening to Imus on my morning commute
for 25 years, and all that time he's been fond of saying he's the only
registered Republican on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Imus has
ALWAYS been conservative, even in his drug and booze days.
That doesn't make him a partisan either. Keep digging.
What it makes me is knowledgeable about Imus' politics. You know less
than squat.
The difference between Imus and you, however, is that he long ago
realized that Bush's war was a travesty. He's also done more to help
the people wounded and maimed in this horrific endeavor than the whole
administration, and the neocon scum who toss the vets away "like last
year's Ipod", to quote Imus again.
Chris
And as it
happens, I was in the car and I heard that Schumer interview live, and
Schumer admitted that Congress had fallen down off the oversight
wagon. He also pointed out something Imus didn't want to hear, namely
that there HAD been attempts by members to attach amendments to budget
bills to increase funding, mostly for the VA (which would not have
helped Walter Reed Hosp., but a LOT of other places would have
benefited). Listen carefully and Schumer actually cites a couple,
before Imus cuts him off. All voted down by the Republican majority.
All of which are a big fat red herring: you even admit that he's not
talking about Walter Reed.
Imus not a Republican- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Fred, how are things on
Neptune these days?
When you recover your sanity and you finish avoiding the issue, Chris,
let the rest of us know, OK?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"...the Nevada Democratic Party caved in to the lunatic fringe and began
seeking a more "appropriate" television partner.
Comedy Central, perhaps?"
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3194 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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