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Religions > Atheism |
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"quibbler" |
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29 Jun 2005 11:10:40 PM |
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War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
I won't "spoil" it for anyone, although this story has been done a few
times before and I think it was probably done better before. In fact,
Mr. Spielberg has even done some of these types of stories before and at
least it was fresh back then.
Anyway, the reason this is relevant to alt.atheism is because of a
moronic little piece of theist drool thrown into the story at the very
end. But first, just to make sure I don't catch any flak for spoilers,
I'll provide a bit of space, just in case folks don't remember how the
whole "alien invasion" thing was resolved.
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In the original story, bacteria from the earth's atmosphere kill off the
aliens. That's retained in the story and I think that it strikes most
modern audiences as moronic. It was made all the worse by the fact that
at the end the narrator something to the effect that the humble bacteria
that "God saw fit" to put on earth defeated these mighty aliens. It
does further suggest, however, that humans have immunity because they
have adapted. So that really suggests that evolution was the proximate
cause of mankind surviving. That's certainly more believable than
crediting a god to begin with.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
30 Jun 2005 12:36:30 AM |
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TV's quibbler wrote:
Isn't Tom Snooze in it? Suckage is par for the course for him.
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Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
30 Jun 2005 12:10:02 PM |
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In article <PridnaatoLVGGV7fRVn-sg@centurytel.net>,
bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...
TV's quibbler wrote:
Isn't Tom Snooze in it? Suckage is par for the course for him.
I would say that he turned in an average performance. He wasn't
necessarily awful, but he didn't have to work particularly hard for his
money. It certainly wasn't oscar caliber or anything.
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"If you think your belief is based upon reason, you will support
it by argument rather than by persecution... But if your belief is
based upon faith, you will realize that argument is useless, and
will therefore resort to force."--Bertrand Russell
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
30 Jun 2005 10:53:29 PM |
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TV's quibbler wrote:
In article <PridnaatoLVGGV7fRVn-sg@centurytel.net>,
bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...
TV's quibbler wrote:
Isn't Tom Snooze in it? Suckage is par for the course for him.
I would say that he turned in an average performance. He wasn't
necessarily awful, but he didn't have to work particularly hard for his
money. It certainly wasn't oscar caliber or anything.
The only thing "Oscar caliber" that Cruise has ever done has been Oscar The
Grouch caliber- garbage.
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
30 Jun 2005 02:24:31 AM |
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:36:30 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
TV's quibbler wrote:
Isn't Tom Snooze in it? Suckage is par for the course for him.
Quite true..
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| User: "igtheist" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
01 Jul 2005 08:31:16 PM |
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The sequel will be that because God in his infinite wisdom also
provided the Martians with indigenous bacteria all multicellular life
on earth is also destroyed.
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| User: "Glenn Arnold" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
30 Jun 2005 08:01:49 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
I won't "spoil" it for anyone, although this story has been done a few
times before and I think it was probably done better before. In fact,
Mr. Spielberg has even done some of these types of stories before and at
least it was fresh back then.
Anyway, the reason this is relevant to alt.atheism is because of a
moronic little piece of theist drool thrown into the story at the very
end. But first, just to make sure I don't catch any flak for spoilers,
I'll provide a bit of space, just in case folks don't remember how the
whole "alien invasion" thing was resolved.
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In the original story, bacteria from the earth's atmosphere kill off the
aliens. That's retained in the story and I think that it strikes most
modern audiences as moronic.
I don't see anything moronic about it. It would kind of go one way or the
other. Either the invaders would have no predators here on earth (zebra
mussels) or they would have no protection from disease (native americans
vs. diseases europeans unleashed). Given that bacteria generally function
as decomposers rather than predators, I'd say the premise has pretty good
validity.
It was made all the worse by the fact that
at the end the narrator something to the effect that the humble bacteria
that "God saw fit" to put on earth defeated these mighty aliens.
Yeah, well, Spielberg's a theist. No big surprise. Depending on how it was
worded, it could be an issue for me, but I'm willing ot accept it as
background noise. 'Course I have no real interest in seeing the movie to
start with.
It
does further suggest, however, that humans have immunity because they
have adapted. So that really suggests that evolution was the proximate
cause of mankind surviving.
So in the sequel the few aliens that have natural immunity reproduce
and....
GlennArnold
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| User: "James" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
29 Jun 2005 11:57:03 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
I won't "spoil" it for anyone, although this story has been done a few
times before and I think it was probably done better before. In fact,
Mr. Spielberg has even done some of these types of stories before and at
least it was fresh back then.
Anyway, the reason this is relevant to alt.atheism is because of a
moronic little piece of theist drool thrown into the story at the very
end. But first, just to make sure I don't catch any flak for spoilers,
I'll provide a bit of space, just in case folks don't remember how the
whole "alien invasion" thing was resolved.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
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.
.
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.
.
In the original story, bacteria from the earth's atmosphere kill off the
aliens. That's retained in the story and I think that it strikes most
modern audiences as moronic. It was made all the worse by the fact that
at the end the narrator something to the effect that the humble bacteria
that "God saw fit" to put on earth defeated these mighty aliens. It
does further suggest, however, that humans have immunity because they
have adapted. So that really suggests that evolution was the proximate
cause of mankind surviving. That's certainly more believable than
crediting a god to begin with.
If God put bacteria in the atmosphere to kill alien invaders, why didn't
he just kill the alien invaders before they reached Earth?
--
James B
aa #944
"Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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30 Jun 2005 08:36:56 AM |
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I won't "spoil" it for anyone, although this story has been done a few
times before and I think it was probably done better before. In fact,
Mr. Spielberg has even done some of these types of stories before and at
least it was fresh back then. Anyway, the reason this is relevant to
alt.atheism is because of a moronic little piece of theist drool thrown
into the story at the very end. But first, just to make sure I don't
catch any flak for spoilers, I'll provide a bit of space, just in case
folks don't remember how the whole "alien invasion" thing was resolved.
.
.
.
In the original story, bacteria from the earth's atmosphere kill off the
aliens. That's retained in the story and I think that it strikes most
modern audiences as moronic. It was made all the worse by the fact that
at the end the narrator something to the effect that the humble bacteria
that "God saw fit" to put on earth defeated these mighty aliens. It does
further suggest, however, that humans have immunity because they have
adapted. So that really suggests that evolution was the proximate cause
of mankind surviving. That's certainly more believable than crediting a
god to begin with.
If God put bacteria in the atmosphere to kill alien invaders, why didn't
he just kill the alien invaders before they reached Earth?
Didn't the god make the aliens? And didn't he make the aliens
attack the earthlings? Isn't this typical for the god: forever
having to save people from his own nefarious acts?
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
30 Jun 2005 01:28:05 PM |
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Witziges Rätsel wrote:
If God put bacteria in the atmosphere to kill alien invaders, why
didn't he just kill the alien invaders before they reached Earth?
Didn't the god make the aliens? And didn't he make the aliens
attack the earthlings? Isn't this typical for the god: forever
having to save people from his own nefarious acts?
If it was found out that a human set fire to a building so he could rush in
and save people he would be jailed and castigated with people crying out for
death or at least the other cast.... word.
If a made up god does it they tell us how wonderful it is.
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| User: "Ben Goren" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
30 Jun 2005 12:09:56 AM |
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James wrote:
quibbler wrote:
I won't "spoil" it for anyone, although this story has been
done a few times before and I think it was probably done better
before. In fact, Mr. Spielberg has even done some of these
types of stories before and at least it was fresh back then.
Anyway, the reason this is relevant to alt.atheism is because
of a moronic little piece of theist drool thrown into the story
at the very end. But first, just to make sure I don't catch
any flak for spoilers, I'll provide a bit of space, just in
case folks don't remember how the whole "alien invasion" thing
was resolved.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
In the original story, bacteria from the earth's atmosphere
kill off the aliens. That's retained in the story and I think
that it strikes most modern audiences as moronic. It was made
all the worse by the fact that at the end the narrator
something to the effect that the humble bacteria that "God saw
fit" to put on earth defeated these mighty aliens. It does
further suggest, however, that humans have immunity because
they have adapted. So that really suggests that evolution was
the proximate cause of mankind surviving. That's certainly
more believable than crediting a god to begin with.
If God put bacteria in the atmosphere to kill alien invaders,
why didn't he just kill the alien invaders before they reached
Earth?
And, for that matter, how could humans have adapted to perfectly
lethal bacteria in the first place?
Then again, nobody ever did claim logic to be a theist's strong
suit....
Cheers,
b&
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God can never prove that this sentence is true.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
30 Jun 2005 07:51:57 AM |
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"Ben Goren" <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote in message
news:42c37f9b$1_2@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
James wrote:
quibbler wrote:
I won't "spoil" it for anyone, although this story has been
done a few times before and I think it was probably done better
before. In fact, Mr. Spielberg has even done some of these
types of stories before and at least it was fresh back then.
Anyway, the reason this is relevant to alt.atheism is because
of a moronic little piece of theist drool thrown into the story
at the very end. But first, just to make sure I don't catch
any flak for spoilers, I'll provide a bit of space, just in
case folks don't remember how the whole "alien invasion" thing
was resolved.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
In the original story, bacteria from the earth's atmosphere
kill off the aliens. That's retained in the story and I think
that it strikes most modern audiences as moronic. It was made
all the worse by the fact that at the end the narrator
something to the effect that the humble bacteria that "God saw
fit" to put on earth defeated these mighty aliens. It does
further suggest, however, that humans have immunity because
they have adapted. So that really suggests that evolution was
the proximate cause of mankind surviving. That's certainly
more believable than crediting a god to begin with.
If God put bacteria in the atmosphere to kill alien invaders,
why didn't he just kill the alien invaders before they reached
Earth?
And, for that matter, how could humans have adapted to perfectly
lethal bacteria in the first place?
It's lethal to the Martians, not humans.
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| User: "guyjin" |
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| Title: Re: War Of The Worlds Sucked SOOO Damn Hard ! |
30 Jun 2005 01:15:18 AM |
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Even within the human species, there are things which are perfectly
harmless to most people, but horribly damaging or deadly to others
(allergies, phenylketonurics, etc.); it's not hard to imagine some
'harmless' byproduct of a bacterium would have a deadly effect on an
alien species.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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30 Jun 2005 08:27:01 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:09:56 -0700, Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
And, for that matter, how could humans have adapted to perfectly
lethal bacteria in the first place?
Go read "Guns, Germs, and Steel" Much of human history has been
decided because one population had a better resistance to disease than
the other.
A little fact about American history that not many people know. As
late as the mid-18th century there was a large, highly organized
culture of Indians living in the Mississippi valley. They had towns,
built monuments, and by all accounts were well organized warriors.
However, smallpox reached them by way of trade between tribes, and
they were wiped out long before the first European settler reached the
region.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Glenn Arnold" |
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30 Jun 2005 08:17:26 PM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:09:56 -0700, Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
And, for that matter, how could humans have adapted to perfectly
lethal bacteria in the first place?
Go read "Guns, Germs, and Steel" Much of human history has been
decided because one population had a better resistance to disease than
the other.
A little fact about American history that not many people know. As
late as the mid-18th century there was a large, highly organized
culture of Indians living in the Mississippi valley. They had towns,
built monuments, and by all accounts were well organized warriors.
However, smallpox reached them by way of trade between tribes, and
they were wiped out long before the first European settler reached the
region.
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This was true throughout the Americas. Columbus and Cortez brought
disease that wiped out much of central america. The Roanoke colony
watched as the natives died of smallpox that they had brought, but they
blamed the natives, because they saw disease as punishment from God. The
natives had no idea what they were dealing with, but it didn't seem to be
related to the settlers, so they didn't blame them for it. At least not
until the ships left, and we don't know what happened after that.
The Mayflower settlers came into "New England" and found it largely empty
because the local population had been ravaged by smallpox, which had
spread upward from the Virginia colony, even before Jamestown. It made it
very difficult to tell who were "settlers", because the natives they met
had only recently moved into territory that had been emptied previously
by the "plague."
Glenn Arnold
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| User: "Eris" |
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30 Jun 2005 08:44:24 AM |
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:27:01 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:09:56 -0700, Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
And, for that matter, how could humans have adapted to perfectly
lethal bacteria in the first place?
Go read "Guns, Germs, and Steel" Much of human history has been
decided because one population had a better resistance to disease than
the other.
A little fact about American history that not many people know. As
late as the mid-18th century there was a large, highly organized
culture of Indians living in the Mississippi valley. They had towns,
built monuments, and by all accounts were well organized warriors.
However, smallpox reached them by way of trade between tribes, and
they were wiped out long before the first European settler reached the
region.
IIRC Germany was about to win WWI when influenza wipe out their main
attacking force in a couple of days.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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30 Jun 2005 12:10:19 AM |
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James wrote:
quibbler wrote:
I won't "spoil" it for anyone, although this story has been done a few
times before and I think it was probably done better before. In fact,
Mr. Spielberg has even done some of these types of stories before and
at least it was fresh back then.
Anyway, the reason this is relevant to alt.atheism is because of a
moronic little piece of theist drool thrown into the story at the very
end. But first, just to make sure I don't catch any flak for
spoilers, I'll provide a bit of space, just in case folks don't
remember how the whole "alien invasion" thing was resolved.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
In the original story, bacteria from the earth's atmosphere kill off
the aliens. That's retained in the story and I think that it strikes
most modern audiences as moronic. It was made all the worse by the
fact that at the end the narrator something to the effect that the
humble bacteria that "God saw fit" to put on earth defeated these
mighty aliens. It does further suggest, however, that humans have
immunity because they have adapted. So that really suggests that
evolution was the proximate cause of mankind surviving. That's
certainly more believable than crediting a god to begin with.
If God put bacteria in the atmosphere to kill alien invaders, why didn't
he just kill the alien invaders before they reached Earth?
Simple answer: Jerry Bruckheimer is God.
;-)
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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02 Jul 2005 08:17:02 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:57:03 -0500, James <spamblock@com.com> wrote:
If God put bacteria in the atmosphere to kill alien invaders, why didn't
he just kill the alien invaders before they reached Earth?
--
James B
aa #944
Same reason he doesn't zap Satan or any other evil ***** hat.
Ben
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