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"J Young" |
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18 Jul 2005 10:27:35 PM |
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Was Hitler gay? |
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Article1964.html
Q. Was Hitler gay?
A. It would seem so. Adolf Hitler had numerous homoerotic friendships
in the 1920s and the dictator's later life can be understood better by
taking into account his gay preferences, according to a new book.
Q. Details?
A. Hitler's Secret - The Double Life of a Dictator by Lothar Machtan,
modern history professor at Bremen University. Machtan says he is
trying to shed light on old speculation that the Nazi leader was a
closet homosexual. 'Adolf Hitler was fond of men. He had a homosexual
nature. This seems at first quite trivial. But it is a detail that
helps us to see his biography from another angle,' Machtan told a
Germany newspaper.
Q. Evidence?
A. In his youth, Hitler had several homosexual relationships, some
with male prostitutes. Hitler lived in Vienna - the most daring and
European capital of the day. He shared an apartment for four months
with his close friend August Kubizek in a known homosexual area of
Vienna. Both delighted in wearing the same clothes. 'People take us for
brothers. That's what we would like to be,' Kubizek wrote in a letter
produced by Machtan. Vice police even compiled a dossier on Hitler. It
contained reports from rent boys picked up by Hitler. One of them
claimed: 'I spent the entire night with him.' Another, who needed money
for food, went to Hitler's home 'and left in the morning'.
Q. But Hitler served in the First World War - surely this didn't go on
in the great German army?
A. Yes, says Machtan. He claims Hitler took Ernst Schmidt, a fellow
soldier, as a lover. In one document he found other soldiers referring
to Hitler and his 'male ***** Schmidt'.
Q. But this is all circumstantial.
A. Agreed. Machtan says there is no definite proof. However, the
fuhrer's architect, Albert Speer said Hitler kept a photograph of
Julius Schreck, his driver, next to one of his mother. Shreck died in
1936. This, he believes, is further evidence ... as is his
assassination of Ernst Roehm.
Q. Assassination?
A. Roehm, the leader of Hitler's Brown Shirt stormtroopers, was openly
homosexual. He and Hitler had been friends since 1921 and it may be
that he knew too much of Hitler's past. He was murdered in the Night of
The Long Knives of June, 1934. Perhaps he was killed to prevent
blackmail of the up-and-coming leader.
Q. Did Hitler's gay leanings make him any more sympathetic towards
homosexuals?
A. No. Thousands of them were killed, alongside Jews, gipsies and
members of other minority groups that did not fit into the Nazi
leader's vision of the Aryan race.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Was Hitler gay? |
19 Jul 2005 06:37:00 AM |
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On 18 Jul 2005 20:27:35 -0700 in alt.atheism, J Young ("J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Article1964.html
Q. Was Hitler gay?
Almost certainly not. As far as I'm aware there is only one first hand
accusation of homosexuality against Hitler that dates from his service
in WWI.
A. It would seem so. Adolf Hitler had numerous homoerotic friendships
in the 1920s and the dictator's later life can be understood better by
taking into account his gay preferences, according to a new book.
Yes. I wonder what Eva Braun, Leni Riefenstahl, and indeed Geli would
have to say about that theory?
Jesus, to coin a phrase, one imagines that in a minute you'll be
accusing Hitler of being a communist....
[snip]
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. Want food NOW? Then try http://www.rtios.com/
- Yep, currently under test... Your opinion welcome.
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| User: "Ben Cramer" |
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| Title: Re: Was Hitler gay? |
20 Jul 2005 05:04:52 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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On 18 Jul 2005 20:27:35 -0700 in alt.atheism, J Young ("J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Article1964.html
Q. Was Hitler gay?
Happy as a frog in a sock.
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| User: "maf 1029" |
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20 Jul 2005 06:12:15 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:04:52 +1000, "Ben Cramer"
<bencramer7@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:unopd1l2vgonespcdmua5eqsb5hk8gl5g7@4ax.com...
On 18 Jul 2005 20:27:35 -0700 in alt.atheism, J Young ("J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Article1964.html
Q. Was Hitler gay?
Happy as a frog in a sock.
Just ask all his female mistresses:
Geli Raubal (niece),Eva Braun, Leni Riefenstahl, Gretl Slezak, Anny
Winter, Maria Reiter-Kubisch, and Inga Ley,
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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20 Jul 2005 07:17:17 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 04:12:15 -0700 in alt.atheism, maf 1029 (maf 1029
<guesswho@yahoo.nopsamnet>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:04:52 +1000, "Ben Cramer"
<bencramer7@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:unopd1l2vgonespcdmua5eqsb5hk8gl5g7@4ax.com...
On 18 Jul 2005 20:27:35 -0700 in alt.atheism, J Young ("J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Article1964.html
Q. Was Hitler gay?
Happy as a frog in a sock.
Just ask all his female mistresses:
Geli Raubal (niece),Eva Braun, Leni Riefenstahl, Gretl Slezak, Anny
Winter, Maria Reiter-Kubisch, and Inga Ley,
Indiscreet quote from Eva: "He's very erotic on the floor".
Makes you think, eh? Though possibly not along wholesome lines...
More generally: "Oh Dear....".
As we know Hitler was kind to animals, a vegetarian, and took by all
accounts some innocent pleasure in small children. But never-the-less
he was a monster, responsible for the deaths of millions in a war of
aggression and the deliberate and considered extermination of various
groups thought a threat to the regime on an industrial scale using the
best of then modern technology to accomplish it.
Life is full of contradictions, eh?
But this tendency to ascribe "the sin of choice" to him in the absence
of any evidence is well - daft. And historically ignorant.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. Want food NOW? Then try http://www.rtios.com/
- Yep, currently under test... Your opinion welcome.
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| User: "Topaz" |
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20 Jul 2005 03:13:05 PM |
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The Germans lost some land to Poland after World War One. The
Germans said that their people living on this land were being severely
oppressed by the Polish goverment. This is why Germany fought Poland .
If Florida were taken away from America, Americans would fight to get
it back. Americans will go to war for far less reason than this.
Britain and the other liberal countries then went to war with
Germany even though the Communists also attacked Poland. After they
won the war, Poland was Communist, which shows what the liberals were
fighting for.
Here is a quote from The Nameless War, by Captain A. H. M. Ramsay:
"Can we doubt but that Poland was encouraged to ignore the German note
of March which set forth eminently reasonable suggestions for a
peaceful solution of the problem of the Corridor?
Month after month no reply was vouchsafed by Poland to the German
note. Meanwhile, insult and outrage occurred with suspicious frequency
all along the German frontier, similar to the technique to which the
Jews later introduced the British in Palestine. Day after day the
British public was deluged with war propaganda and misrepresentation
of the situation. Finally their minds were closed against any further
regard to the demands of justice and reason by a new slogan, "You
cannot trust Hitler's word." With this lie the British public was
finally stampeded into throwing all reason and judgement to the winds
and accepting at their face value the war propaganda in the press.
This slogan was founded upon a misrepresentation of Hitler's
assurance given on more than one occasion after a "putsch" such as
that in into Sudetenland, that he "intended to make no further
demands.". The misrepresentation lay in the fact that the press
steadily obscured the major fact, that the "demands" to which Hitler
referred were all along five-fold in character; and covered those five
areas taken from Germany by a dictated peace in which the population
was overwhelmingly German, i.e. Sudetenland, part of Czechoslovakia,
parts of Poland, the Corridor and Danzig.
As German troops occupied each successive section, it is, I
believe, accurate to say that Hitler declared, that he had no
additional demands to make. But here it must be clearly stated in the
interests of justice that he never said that this entailed reducing
the demands which he had originally very clearly delineated, and
repeated on many occasions, namely, the five areas in question.
"The British public was deluded by its press into supposing that
when Hitler said he had no further demands, that there had never been
any statement of his full demands, some of which were still
unfulfilled. They were led to believe that Hitler either never had had
other demands, or that he had abondoned the rest as soon as he had
obtained some of them. When, therefore, the next installment was
added, the press built on this misunderstanding the fallacy that
Hitler's word could not be trusted. Honest dealing needs no such
trickery and and deception. Such methods are only necessary to bolster
up bad or unjust causes. Fortunately we have the calm and
disspassionate judgement in this matter by no less a person than the
late Lord Lothian, recently British Ambassador to the U.S.A. In his
last speech at Chatham House on this subject he remarked: "If the
principle of self-determination had been applied in Germany's favour,
as it was applied agaisnt her, it would have meant the return of the
Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia, parts of Poland, the Polish Corridor and
Danzig to the Reich."
Here is a very different presentment of the case to the one which
was foisted upon the British public in 1939: and it is the true one.
Small wonder that these facts had to be withheld from the ordinary
citizen.
Had the British public realized the truth, that each of these
demands of Hilter rested on a foundation of reasonable fairness, the
people of this island would have ruled out any question of war; and it
was war, not truth or justice, upon which international Jewry was
resolved."
Here is another quote from the book:
"The urgent alarm sounded in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke in his letter
to Mr. Balfour (see page 25), denouncing bolshevism as a Jewish plan,
which if not checked by the combined action of the European powers,
would engulf Europe and the world, was no exaggeration. By the end of
that year the red flag was being hoisted in most of the great cities
of Europe. In Hungary the Jew Bela Kuhn organized and maintained for
some time a merciless and bloody tyranny similar to the one in Russia.
In Germany the Jews, Liebknecht, Barth, Scheidemann, Rosa Luxemburg,
etc., made a desperate bid for power. These and other similar
convulsions shook Europe; but each country in its own way just
frustated the onslaughts.
In most countries concerned a few voices were raised in the
endeavour to expose the true nature of these evils. Only in one,
however, did a political leader and group arise, who grasped to the
full the significance of these happenings, and perceived behind the
mobs of native hooligans the organisation and driving power of world
Jewry. This leader was Adolf Hitler, and his group the National
Socialist Party of Germany.
Never before in history had any country not only repulsed organized
revolution, but discerned Jewry behind it, and faced up to that fact.
We need not wonder that the sewers of Jewish vituperation were flooded
over these men and their leader; nor should we make the mistake of
supposing that Jewry would stick at any lie to deter honest men
everywhere from making a thorough investigation of the facts for
themselves. Nevertheless, if any value liberty, and set out to seek
truth and defend it, this duty of personal investigation is one which
they cannot shirk.
To accept unquestioningly the lies and misrepresentaions of a
Jew-controlled or influenced press, is to spurn truth by sheer
idleness, if for no worse reason."
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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| User: "maf 1029" |
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20 Jul 2005 07:56:10 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:17:17 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 04:12:15 -0700 in alt.atheism, maf 1029 (maf 1029
<guesswho@yahoo.nopsamnet>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:04:52 +1000, "Ben Cramer"
<bencramer7@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:unopd1l2vgonespcdmua5eqsb5hk8gl5g7@4ax.com...
On 18 Jul 2005 20:27:35 -0700 in alt.atheism, J Young ("J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Article1964.html
Q. Was Hitler gay?
Happy as a frog in a sock.
Just ask all his female mistresses:
Geli Raubal (niece),Eva Braun, Leni Riefenstahl, Gretl Slezak, Anny
Winter, Maria Reiter-Kubisch, and Inga Ley,
Indiscreet quote from Eva: "He's very erotic on the floor".
Makes you think, eh? Though possibly not along wholesome lines...
More generally: "Oh Dear....".
As we know Hitler was kind to animals, a vegetarian, and took by all
accounts some innocent pleasure in small children. But never-the-less
he was a monster, responsible for the deaths of millions in a war of
aggression and the deliberate and considered extermination of various
groups thought a threat to the regime on an industrial scale using the
best of then modern technology to accomplish it.
Life is full of contradictions, eh?
But this tendency to ascribe "the sin of choice" to him in the absence
of any evidence is well - daft. And historically ignorant.
Especially when that choice involved him schtupping his own niece
(Geli Raubal)
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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20 Jul 2005 08:15:09 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 05:56:10 -0700 in alt.atheism, maf 1029 (maf 1029
<guesswho@yahoo.nopsamnet>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:17:17 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 04:12:15 -0700 in alt.atheism, maf 1029 (maf 1029
<guesswho@yahoo.nopsamnet>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:04:52 +1000, "Ben Cramer"
<bencramer7@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:unopd1l2vgonespcdmua5eqsb5hk8gl5g7@4ax.com...
On 18 Jul 2005 20:27:35 -0700 in alt.atheism, J Young ("J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Article1964.html
Q. Was Hitler gay?
Happy as a frog in a sock.
Just ask all his female mistresses:
Geli Raubal (niece),Eva Braun, Leni Riefenstahl, Gretl Slezak, Anny
Winter, Maria Reiter-Kubisch, and Inga Ley,
Indiscreet quote from Eva: "He's very erotic on the floor".
Makes you think, eh? Though possibly not along wholesome lines...
More generally: "Oh Dear....".
As we know Hitler was kind to animals, a vegetarian, and took by all
accounts some innocent pleasure in small children. But never-the-less
he was a monster, responsible for the deaths of millions in a war of
aggression and the deliberate and considered extermination of various
groups thought a threat to the regime on an industrial scale using the
best of then modern technology to accomplish it.
Life is full of contradictions, eh?
But this tendency to ascribe "the sin of choice" to him in the absence
of any evidence is well - daft. And historically ignorant.
Especially when that choice involved him schtupping his own niece
(Geli Raubal)
Sure.
Bearing in mind that she chose to kill herself rather than maintain
the relationship.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. Want food NOW? Then try http://www.rtios.com/
- Yep, currently under test... Your opinion welcome.
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| User: "Topaz" |
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20 Jul 2005 03:17:35 PM |
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There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.
Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":
"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."
"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."
The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner.
On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says:
"When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."
Here are some quotes from the paper "Jews Control the Media
and Rule America"
It may be rather out of date but it still explains why things are the
way they are.
"American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Coumbia Broadcasting
System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Each of these
three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long
enough period of time--ranging from 32 to 55 years--for him to staff
the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and then
to place his imprint indelibly upon it. In each case that man has been
a Jew.
"Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities
Communications, Inc...the chairman of the board of directors and chief
executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a
Jew...In an interview in the April 1, 1985 issue of Newsweek,
Goldenson boasted 'I built this company (ABC) from scratch.'"
"CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than
half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia..."
"There has been no move by top G-E management to change the
Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personel. To the
contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: an example is Steve
Friedman..."
"The man in charge of the television entertainment division at
CBS is Jeff Sagansky. At ABC the entertainment division is run by two
men....nearly all of the men who shape young Amercians' concept of
reality, of good and evil, of permissible and impermissible behavior
are Jews. In particular, Sagansky and Bloomberg arre Jews. So is
Tartikoff. Littlefield is the only Gentile who has had a significant
role in TV entertainment programming in recent years."
"American Film magazine listed the top 10...entertainment
companies and their CEOs...Time Warner Communications (Steven J Ross,
Jew) Walt Disney Co. (Michael D. Eisner, Jew)...Of the 10 top
entertainment CEOs listed above, eight are Jews."
"The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than a
lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers; it also
illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all organs of
opinion... The Newhouse's own 31 daily newspapers, including several
large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the
Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's
largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all
its subsideries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television
broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the
countries largest cable networks- the Sunday supplement Parade, with a
circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen
major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madamoiselle,
Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self,
Home&Garden...."
"Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership
and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising..."
"the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington
Post. These three...are the newspapers which set trends and guidlines
for nearly all others. They are the ones which decide what is news and
what isn't, at national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands...The Suzberger family also owns, through the New York
Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's
and Family Circle..."
"New York's other newspapers are in no better hands than the
Daily News. The New York Post is owned by billionare Jewish
real-estate developer Peter Kalikow. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of..."
"There are only three newsmagazines of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report....The CEO
of Time Warner Communications is Steven J. Ross, and he is a Jew.
"Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington
Post Co., under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham..."
"U.S. News & World Report... owned and published by Jewish real
estate developer Mortimer B. Zucherman..."
" The three largest book publishers...Random House... Simon &
Schuster , and Time Inc. Book Co....All three are owned or controlled
by Jews...The CEO of Simon & Schuster if Richard Snyder, and the
president is Jeremy Kaplan; both are Jews too."
"Western Publishing...ranks first among publishers of childrens
books, with more than 50 per cent of the market. Its chairman and CEO
is Richard Bernstein, a Jew."
"Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive tactics. "Ted
Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce..."
"We are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence
on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also
are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children..."
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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| User: "Jenn" |
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20 Jul 2005 03:47:11 PM |
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In article <1actd19j07i1738gu53sfmigq5lg48e3a1@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:
There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.
Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":
"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."
"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."
The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner.
On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says:
"When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."
Here are some quotes from the paper "Jews Control the Media
and Rule America"
It may be rather out of date but it still explains why things are the
way they are.
"American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Coumbia Broadcasting
System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Each of these
three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long
enough period of time--ranging from 32 to 55 years--for him to staff
the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and then
to place his imprint indelibly upon it. In each case that man has been
a Jew.
"Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities
Communications, Inc...the chairman of the board of directors and chief
executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a
Jew...In an interview in the April 1, 1985 issue of Newsweek,
Goldenson boasted 'I built this company (ABC) from scratch.'"
"CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than
half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia..."
"There has been no move by top G-E management to change the
Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personel. To the
contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: an example is Steve
Friedman..."
"The man in charge of the television entertainment division at
CBS is Jeff Sagansky. At ABC the entertainment division is run by two
men....nearly all of the men who shape young Amercians' concept of
reality, of good and evil, of permissible and impermissible behavior
are Jews. In particular, Sagansky and Bloomberg arre Jews. So is
Tartikoff. Littlefield is the only Gentile who has had a significant
role in TV entertainment programming in recent years."
"American Film magazine listed the top 10...entertainment
companies and their CEOs...Time Warner Communications (Steven J Ross,
Jew) Walt Disney Co. (Michael D. Eisner, Jew)...Of the 10 top
entertainment CEOs listed above, eight are Jews."
"The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than a
lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers; it also
illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all organs of
opinion... The Newhouse's own 31 daily newspapers, including several
large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the
Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's
largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all
its subsideries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television
broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the
countries largest cable networks- the Sunday supplement Parade, with a
circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen
major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madamoiselle,
Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self,
Home&Garden...."
"Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership
and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising..."
"the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington
Post. These three...are the newspapers which set trends and guidlines
for nearly all others. They are the ones which decide what is news and
what isn't, at national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands...The Suzberger family also owns, through the New York
Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's
and Family Circle..."
"New York's other newspapers are in no better hands than the
Daily News. The New York Post is owned by billionare Jewish
real-estate developer Peter Kalikow. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of..."
"There are only three newsmagazines of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report....The CEO
of Time Warner Communications is Steven J. Ross, and he is a Jew.
"Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington
Post Co., under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham..."
"U.S. News & World Report... owned and published by Jewish real
estate developer Mortimer B. Zucherman..."
" The three largest book publishers...Random House... Simon &
Schuster , and Time Inc. Book Co....All three are owned or controlled
by Jews...The CEO of Simon & Schuster if Richard Snyder, and the
president is Jeremy Kaplan; both are Jews too."
"Western Publishing...ranks first among publishers of childrens
books, with more than 50 per cent of the market. Its chairman and CEO
is Richard Bernstein, a Jew."
"Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive tactics. "Ted
Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce..."
"We are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence
on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also
are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children..."
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
Please remove your off-topic swill from alt.politics.homosexuality.
Thank you.
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Hail Eris! It was a dark and stormy night in alt.politics.homosexuality,
when Jenn wrote:
Topaz wrote:
<paranoid tripe snipped>
Please remove your off-topic swill from alt.politics.homosexuality.
Thank you.
Nice thought, Jenn, but that never works. *Ever*. Not with the kind of
delusional paranoid psychotic whose stuff I just cut. He'll keep doing it
until he gets a flamewar going, preferably, as far as he's concerned, one
not involving him, so he'll only have to throw in the odd bit of fuel.
Killfile him, and set the killfile to mark his threads "Ignore". Best you
can do...
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Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.23
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21 Jul 2005 08:58:04 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:47:11 GMT, Jenn <jennconducts@hotmail.com>
wrote:
In article <1actd19j07i1738gu53sfmigq5lg48e3a1@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:
There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.
Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":
"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."
"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."
The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner.
On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says:
"When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."
Here are some quotes from the paper "Jews Control the Media
and Rule America"
It may be rather out of date but it still explains why things are the
way they are.
"American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Coumbia Broadcasting
System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Each of these
three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long
enough period of time--ranging from 32 to 55 years--for him to staff
the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and then
to place his imprint indelibly upon it. In each case that man has been
a Jew.
"Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities
Communications, Inc...the chairman of the board of directors and chief
executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a
Jew...In an interview in the April 1, 1985 issue of Newsweek,
Goldenson boasted 'I built this company (ABC) from scratch.'"
"CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than
half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia..."
"There has been no move by top G-E management to change the
Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personel. To the
contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: an example is Steve
Friedman..."
"The man in charge of the television entertainment division at
CBS is Jeff Sagansky. At ABC the entertainment division is run by two
men....nearly all of the men who shape young Amercians' concept of
reality, of good and evil, of permissible and impermissible behavior
are Jews. In particular, Sagansky and Bloomberg arre Jews. So is
Tartikoff. Littlefield is the only Gentile who has had a significant
role in TV entertainment programming in recent years."
"American Film magazine listed the top 10...entertainment
companies and their CEOs...Time Warner Communications (Steven J Ross,
Jew) Walt Disney Co. (Michael D. Eisner, Jew)...Of the 10 top
entertainment CEOs listed above, eight are Jews."
"The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than a
lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers; it also
illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all organs of
opinion... The Newhouse's own 31 daily newspapers, including several
large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the
Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's
largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all
its subsideries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television
broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the
countries largest cable networks- the Sunday supplement Parade, with a
circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen
major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madamoiselle,
Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self,
Home&Garden...."
"Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership
and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising..."
"the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington
Post. These three...are the newspapers which set trends and guidlines
for nearly all others. They are the ones which decide what is news and
what isn't, at national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands...The Suzberger family also owns, through the New York
Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's
and Family Circle..."
"New York's other newspapers are in no better hands than the
Daily News. The New York Post is owned by billionare Jewish
real-estate developer Peter Kalikow. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of..."
"There are only three newsmagazines of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report....The CEO
of Time Warner Communications is Steven J. Ross, and he is a Jew.
"Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington
Post Co., under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham..."
"U.S. News & World Report... owned and published by Jewish real
estate developer Mortimer B. Zucherman..."
" The three largest book publishers...Random House... Simon &
Schuster , and Time Inc. Book Co....All three are owned or controlled
by Jews...The CEO of Simon & Schuster if Richard Snyder, and the
president is Jeremy Kaplan; both are Jews too."
"Western Publishing...ranks first among publishers of childrens
books, with more than 50 per cent of the market. Its chairman and CEO
is Richard Bernstein, a Jew."
"Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive tactics. "Ted
Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce..."
"We are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence
on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also
are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children..."
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
Please remove your off-topic swill from alt.politics.homosexuality.
Thank you.
Well Mr. Thought Police, did you see the Subject line? The reason
there is no many lies about the Fuehrer is because the Jews control
the media.
The National Socialists made a movie called "The Eternal Jew". Anyone
can see their movie and see that one of the main reasons they were
against the Jews was because the Jews were promoting homosexual
perversion in the media. Here is an article they made about the movie:
"The self-portrait Jewry offered the world was disgusting from the
beginning. All that is overshadowed by the powerful examples in this
new and most valuable film, The Eternal Jew. This film with its
persuasive power must be shown everywhere where anti-Semitism is still
questioned. No one will will fail to shudder at the sneaking servility
and dirty bartering of the Jews when they start out, at the perfidy,
insidiousness and vulgarity of their methods, at the brutality and
all-devouring hatred they exhibit when they reach their goal and
control finance.
The most revolting scenes show Jewish slaughtering methods. These
customs, which cast a particularly vivid spotlight on the so-called
Jewish religion, are so terrible that it is hard to watch the film as
the grinning Jewish butchers carry out their work. It is illuminating
to see how stubbornly Jewry holds to its method of slaughter and with
which casuistry it defends it against the horror of the civilized
world. Rarely will people feel more horror than which watching the
desperate and horrible death struggle of the slaughtered animals. Long
before the seizure of power, the NSDAP fought against Jewish
slaughter. National Socialist representatives in parliament repeatedly
introduced legislation to abolish this form of animal torture through
a ban on Jewish slaughter. Such proposals were always rejected, since
the entire Jewish and Jewish-influenced press ran long articles
against them and the so-called German parties refused to support
National Socialism in its battle against this evil.
Not only in this regard, but in other areas too we are reminded with a
shudder of what once was reality in Germany: the power of the Jews in
the economy, finance, culture, theater, film, publishing, press,
radio, education and politics. All these Jewish leaders of the Weimar
era had their home or their origin in the filthy ghettos of the East.
One has a deep sense of salvation after seeing this film. We have
broken their power over us. We are the initiators of the fight against
world Jewry, which now directs its hate, its brutal greed and
destructive will toward us. We must win this battle for ourselves, for
Europe, for the world. This film will be a valuable tool in that
struggle."
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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21 Jul 2005 09:20:52 PM |
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In article <2fk0e1hpa60u7024inieh5umohion17lr9@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:47:11 GMT, Jenn <jennconducts@hotmail.com>
wrote:
In article <1actd19j07i1738gu53sfmigq5lg48e3a1@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:
There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.
Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":
"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."
"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."
The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner.
On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says:
"When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."
Here are some quotes from the paper "Jews Control the Media
and Rule America"
It may be rather out of date but it still explains why things are the
way they are.
"American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Coumbia Broadcasting
System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Each of these
three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long
enough period of time--ranging from 32 to 55 years--for him to staff
the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and then
to place his imprint indelibly upon it. In each case that man has been
a Jew.
"Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities
Communications, Inc...the chairman of the board of directors and chief
executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a
Jew...In an interview in the April 1, 1985 issue of Newsweek,
Goldenson boasted 'I built this company (ABC) from scratch.'"
"CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than
half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia..."
"There has been no move by top G-E management to change the
Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personel. To the
contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: an example is Steve
Friedman..."
"The man in charge of the television entertainment division at
CBS is Jeff Sagansky. At ABC the entertainment division is run by two
men....nearly all of the men who shape young Amercians' concept of
reality, of good and evil, of permissible and impermissible behavior
are Jews. In particular, Sagansky and Bloomberg arre Jews. So is
Tartikoff. Littlefield is the only Gentile who has had a significant
role in TV entertainment programming in recent years."
"American Film magazine listed the top 10...entertainment
companies and their CEOs...Time Warner Communications (Steven J Ross,
Jew) Walt Disney Co. (Michael D. Eisner, Jew)...Of the 10 top
entertainment CEOs listed above, eight are Jews."
"The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than a
lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers; it also
illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all organs of
opinion... The Newhouse's own 31 daily newspapers, including several
large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the
Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's
largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all
its subsideries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television
broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the
countries largest cable networks- the Sunday supplement Parade, with a
circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen
major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madamoiselle,
Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self,
Home&Garden...."
"Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership
and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising..."
"the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington
Post. These three...are the newspapers which set trends and guidlines
for nearly all others. They are the ones which decide what is news and
what isn't, at national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands...The Suzberger family also owns, through the New York
Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's
and Family Circle..."
"New York's other newspapers are in no better hands than the
Daily News. The New York Post is owned by billionare Jewish
real-estate developer Peter Kalikow. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of..."
"There are only three newsmagazines of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report....The CEO
of Time Warner Communications is Steven J. Ross, and he is a Jew.
"Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington
Post Co., under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham..."
"U.S. News & World Report... owned and published by Jewish real
estate developer Mortimer B. Zucherman..."
" The three largest book publishers...Random House... Simon &
Schuster , and Time Inc. Book Co....All three are owned or controlled
by Jews...The CEO of Simon & Schuster if Richard Snyder, and the
president is Jeremy Kaplan; both are Jews too."
"Western Publishing...ranks first among publishers of childrens
books, with more than 50 per cent of the market. Its chairman and CEO
is Richard Bernstein, a Jew."
"Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive tactics. "Ted
Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce..."
"We are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence
on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also
are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children..."
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
Please remove your off-topic swill from alt.politics.homosexuality.
Thank you.
Well Mr. Thought Police,
That's MS. Thought Police to you...
did you see the Subject line?
Yes. Your post has nothing to do with the politics pertaining to
homosexuality. You're a troll.
The reason
there is no many lies about the Fuehrer is because the Jews control
the media.
I'm not Jewish, yet I control this media, bigot. <plonk>
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23 Jul 2005 02:40:37 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:20:52 GMT, Jenn <jennconducts@hotmail.com>
wrote:
That's MS. Thought Police to you...
Feminism and homo perversion are pretty much the same thing:
The leftists who rule America are for having a unisex country and
for fighting "sexism". This should be replaced by a nation that is for
manhood and womenhood. Not only are the sexes different, but the
reason we are attracted to the opposite sex is precisely because they
are different.
In 1852 Emma Snodgrass was arrested in Boston for wearing pants.
Today women are allowed to be policemen and soldiers. Men don't need
to be protected by female policemen.
We don't have to have the kind of society we have now. The
government, and the media, and the schools, may all be leftist
enemies, but their ways are so contrary to human nature that it can be
changed.
The two main forces that reject the unisex society are religion
and nationalism. There certainly
wasn't much feminism going on in a Muslim country like Afganistan. And
it is no coincidence that the USA bombed Afganistan. The USA and its
masters the Jews are the enemy and that is the first thing we need to
be clear about if we are going to change things. There were also
Nationalist countries that were also bombed by the USA and the other
leftists. The media will tell us how terrible they say these countries
were. We must always remember that the media is the enemy and they are
the ones pushing unisex culture on us.
Feminism is something we must always fight against. But a normal
man who considers women his enemy must eventually go mad. Feminism may
be a major symptom of what is wrong with this country but it is only a
symptom. The Jewish control of the media and society is the disease.
And feminism is Jewish:
Gloria Steinem was a Jew. Bella Abzug was a Jew. Betty Friedan was
a Jew.
"THE JEWISH 100: A Ranking Of the Most Influential Jews Of All Time"
By Michael Shaprio
# 56 Betty Friedan (b. 1921)
Born Betty Naomi Goldstein to Harry and Miriam (Horowitz) Goldstein in
Peoria, Illinois, educated at Smith College, married in 1947 to Carl
Friedan, the mother of three children, divorced in 1969, activist,
best-selling author, professor, a founder of the National Organization
for Women (NOW), the National Women's Political Caucus, and the First
Women's Bank, researcher, journalist, Democrat, clinical psychologist,
and grandmother, Betty Friedan was the most influential feminist of
the postwar era. Deemed by Marilyn French and others as an "initiator
of the 'second wave' of feminism, " Friedan's writings and lectures,
including the highly influential books THE FEMININE MYSTIQUE and THE
SECOND STAGE, synthesized women's views on what equality meant and how
to live and work... When the war against fascism ended two decades
later, four million women lost their jobs to returning GIs. Women were
again told that their place was in the home. The freedom to work to
build up and defend their nation was over. Men would earn the family's
bread. What the boys needed was a warm place to come home to every
night. Ironically, American soldiers had accepted some of the values
toward women (Kinder, Kuche, Kirche - children, kitchen, church) as
the Nazis they thought they had defeated...
did you see the Subject line?
Yes. Your post has nothing to do with the politics pertaining to
homosexuality. You're a troll.
Before the Jews took over the media there was no homo pervert
problem. The Jewish control of the media is the main point.
The National Socialists made a movie called "The Eternal Jew". Anyone
can see their movie and see that one of the main reasons they were
against the Jews was because the Jews were promoting homosexual
perversion in the media. Here is an article they made about the movie:
"The self-portrait Jewry offered the world was disgusting from the
beginning. All that is overshadowed by the powerful examples in this
new and most valuable film, The Eternal Jew. This film with its
persuasive power must be shown everywhere where anti-Semitism is still
questioned. No one will will fail to shudder at the sneaking servility
and dirty bartering of the Jews when they start out, at the perfidy,
insidiousness and vulgarity of their methods, at the brutality and
all-devouring hatred they exhibit when they reach their goal and
control finance.
The most revolting scenes show Jewish slaughtering methods. These
customs, which cast a particularly vivid spotlight on the so-called
Jewish religion, are so terrible that it is hard to watch the film as
the grinning Jewish butchers carry out their work. It is illuminating
to see how stubbornly Jewry holds to its method of slaughter and with
which casuistry it defends it against the horror of the civilized
world. Rarely will people feel more horror than which watching the
desperate and horrible death struggle of the slaughtered animals. Long
before the seizure of power, the NSDAP fought against Jewish
slaughter. National Socialist representatives in parliament repeatedly
introduced legislation to abolish this form of animal torture through
a ban on Jewish slaughter. Such proposals were always rejected, since
the entire Jewish and Jewish-influenced press ran long articles
against them and the so-called German parties refused to support
National Socialism in its battle against this evil.
Not only in this regard, but in other areas too we are reminded with a
shudder of what once was reality in Germany: the power of the Jews in
the economy, finance, culture, theater, film, publishing, press,
radio, education and politics. All these Jewish leaders of the Weimar
era had their home or their origin in the filthy ghettos of the East.
One has a deep sense of salvation after seeing this film. We have
broken their power over us. We are the initiators of the fight against
world Jewry, which now directs its hate, its brutal greed and
destructive will toward us. We must win this battle for ourselves, for
Europe, for the world. This film will be a valuable tool in that
struggle."
I'm not Jewish, yet I control this media, bigot. <plonk>
You tried to control it but failed. It's pretty sad when you can't
see that the homo pervert problem is connected to the fact that a race
of perverts controlls the media:
from The Boston Globe
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/197/metro/Jews_see_US_as_secular_survey_sa
ys+.shtml
July 15th 2000
By Michael Paulsen, Globe Staff, 7/15/2000
Despite what appears to be a growing inclination among many religious
groups, politicians, and judges to chip away at the wall that
separates church and state, American Jews remain staunchly opposed to
any mixing of religion and public life.
A new survey of the Jewish community finds that, although some factors
that have historically contributed to Jewish support of strict
separation between church and state have waned, Jews are far more
reluctant than non-Jews to accept references to religion in the public
schools or other public arenas.
''Jews are more secure when society is more overtly secular,'' said
Alan Mittleman, director of the ''Jews and the Public Square''
project, one of seven surveys funded by the Pew Charitable Trusts
examining the contemporary role of religious groups in the United
States.
The study also found that on a variety of issues involving sexual
morality that have roiled other religious groups, Jews are much more
liberal than other Americans. ''Jews take a less critical view of
homosexuality, abortion, birth control and pornography than do
Gentiles,'' the study found. ''In each case, Jewish leaders are even
more tolerant than the Jewish public.''
For example, 48 percent of non-Jews say homosexuality is wrong,
compared to 23 percent of Jews and 7 percent of Jewish leaders. And
while 56 percent of non-Jews support abortion rights, 88 percent of
Jews and 96 percent of Jewish leaders do.
The findings on church-state separation could have important bearing
on the Jewish role in the debate over school vouchers. As the number
of children in Jewish day schools has skyrocketed, some Jewish policy
makers have suggested that the community supports the use of vouchers,
but the survey suggests that Jewish reluctance to support such a step
runs deep.
Orthodox Jews have been more sympathetic to the use of public funds to
assist children attending religious schools and to the display of
religious symbols on public property.
Jewish support for church-state separation traces back to the 1940s,
and is driven by concerns that a greater presence of religion in the
public sphere means a greater presence of Christianity.
''Absent the protections afforded by church-state separation, many
Jews feared that Christian church leaders, in the context of a large
Christian majority in the American population, would promote an
explicitly Christian character to the American state and its
institutions,'' the study declared. ''Jews, in particular, were
concerned that the schools not be used to indoctrinate their children
in the culture and tenets of Christianity.''
Jewish attitudes were intensified by the community's fear of
anti-Semitism associated with some Christian groups, and by the
community's liberalism and secularity, the study said. In recent
years, the study said, Jews have become more accepted in the United
States, Jews have become less liberal, and a significant fraction of
the community has become less secular, but the attitudes have
remained.
Only 38 percent of Jews support allowing the Ten Commandments to be
displayed in public schools, compared to 65 percent of non-Jews; 39
percent of Jews would allow the teaching of creationism, compared with
63 percent of non-Jews; and 22 percent of Jews would support vouchers
that could be used at religious schools, compared with 43 percent of
non-Jews.
The data come from a survey of a 1,002 Jews around the United States.
Because of the relatively small number of Jews in the United States,
the pollsters used a somewhat unorthodox method for assembling a
sample - they queried a sample of 600,000 Americans who have agreed to
be surveyed by mail on various matters.
The Pew Charitable Trusts is also funding studies of African-American,
Catholic, evangelical, Hispanic, mainline Protestant, and Muslim
religious populations in the United States. Each study will include a
poll, scholarly papers, and conferences over a three-year period.
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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23 Jul 2005 03:05:36 PM |
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In article <bk65e197b6grev9dmmipolnlva3ft7dpg9@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:20:52 GMT, Jenn <jennconducts@hotmail.com>
wrote:
That's MS. Thought Police to you...
Feminism and homo perversion are pretty much the same thing:
The leftists who rule America are for having a unisex country and
for fighting "sexism". <snip>
I see. Well, thanks for your opinion and display of race baiting.
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23 Jul 2005 07:26:21 PM |
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Topaz wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:20:52 GMT, Jenn <jennconducts@hotmail.com>
wrote:
That's MS. Thought Police to you...
Feminism and homo perversion are pretty much the same thing:
The leftists who rule America
Wait a sec... I thought that rightists currently "ruled America?"
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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24 Jul 2005 04:29:27 PM |
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:26:21 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
Wait a sec... I thought that rightists currently "ruled America?"
You were wrong.
NEA, Gay Militants: Joined At The Hip
Lee Duigon
If a private citizen tells his neighbor's children that they ought to
try gay sex, he might wind up in a correctional facility. If he talks
that way to your 13-year-old son, you'll want him put away-pronto.
But when this very same behavior, toward the same children, is
displayed by adults who belong to America's biggest teachers' union,
most parents simply let them do it. In fact, they pay them to.
The NEA is committed to the cause of militant homosexuality. It's the
richest, most politically powerful union in America, and it has daily
access to most of America's children. And it wants to recruit them for
the homosexual lifestyle.
Lean this equation, America:
Public schools=The homosexual agenda
If you don't believe it, visit nea-glc.org/, the website of the
National Education Association's Gay and Lesbian Coalition. There,
among their "great achievements" in shaping NEA policy, the homosexual
militants cite the NEA's promotion of "the lesbian-gay-bisexual
curriculum" and "family life education... regarding the diversity of
sexual orientation."
The NEA has also campaigned for the proclamation of
"Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transsexual History Month" (try putting that on
a T-shirt), homosexual studies at Catholic colleges--and, of course,
homosexual "marriage."
The people of Massachusetts know the teachers' union's commitment to
"gay marriage." Aline Isaacson of GLSEN (Gay-Lesbian-Straight
Education Network), the media's favorite poster gal for "gay
marriage", is also--surprise!-a paid consultant to the Massachusetts
teachers' union. Paid in taxpayer dollars, to boot. (You may remember
Massachusetts GLSEN from a few years ago as the organizers of graphic,
intensely perverted sex "workshops" for public school children--a
scandal that came to be known as "fist-gate.")
Ms. Isaacson, according to the grass-roots Article 8 Alliance, these
days makes it a full-time job lobbying state legislators to keep them
from jumping ship on "gay marriage" and voting for the Bill of Address
which would remove the outlaw Supreme Judicial Court judges who
imposed this oxymoron on the people of Massachusetts. Supported by
taxpayers' money, she makes daily, face-to-face visits to individual
lawmakers. Nice work if you can get it.
Too bad you couldn't make it to the gym teachers' state convention in
New Jersey, in February. It wasn't about volleyball. For public school
gym teachers, Job One--according to the convention's floor displays,
handouts, posters, and workshop topics (all of which I saw
personally)--is getting the kids comfy with homosexuality. To this
end, they handed out a "resource guide"--handsomely produced, slick,
paid for largely by Fleet Bank
Inc.--intended for distribution in all the public schools. (For more
information, see my article, "Now It's the Gym Teachers," in the
February archive of the Chalcedon website, chalcedon.edu.)
You would have seen even more of the same at "Twenty Years of Great
Sex (Ed)" last year, a national conference of "sex educators" hosted
by Rutgers, New Jersey's taxpayer-funded state university. Again,
there was no effort to hide the educators' whole-hearted penchant for
homosexuality...
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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24 Jul 2005 04:54:11 PM |
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In article <nu18e11s1u97u556ev0n70ohgnuesaif2m@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:26:21 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
Wait a sec... I thought that rightists currently "ruled America?"
You were wrong.
NEA, Gay Militants: Joined At The Hip
Lee Duigon
If a private citizen tells his neighbor's children that they ought to
try gay sex, he might wind up in a correctional facility. If he talks
that way to your 13-year-old son, you'll want him put away-pronto.
But when this very same behavior, toward the same children, is
displayed by adults who belong to America's biggest teachers' union,
most parents simply let them do it. In fact, they pay them to.
The NEA is committed to the cause of militant homosexuality. It's the
richest, most politically powerful union in America, and it has daily
access to most of America's children. And it wants to recruit them for
the homosexual lifestyle.
LOL
Lean this equation, America:
Public schools=The homosexual agenda
If you don't believe it, visit nea-glc.org/, the website of the
National Education Association's Gay and Lesbian Coalition. There,
among their "great achievements" in shaping NEA policy, the homosexual
militants cite the NEA's promotion of "the lesbian-gay-bisexual
curriculum" and "family life education... regarding the diversity of
sexual orientation."
The NEA has also campaigned for the proclamation of
"Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transsexual History Month" (try putting that on
a T-shirt), homosexual studies at Catholic colleges--and, of course,
homosexual "marriage."
The people of Massachusetts know the teachers' union's commitment to
"gay marriage." Aline Isaacson of GLSEN (Gay-Lesbian-Straight
Education Network), the media's favorite poster gal for "gay
marriage", is also--surprise!-a paid consultant to the Massachusetts
teachers' union. Paid in taxpayer dollars, to boot. (You may remember
Massachusetts GLSEN from a few years ago as the organizers of graphic,
intensely perverted sex "workshops" for public school children--a
scandal that came to be known as "fist-gate.")
Ms. Isaacson, according to the grass-roots Article 8 Alliance, these
days makes it a full-time job lobbying state legislators to keep them
from jumping ship on "gay marriage" and voting for the Bill of Address
which would remove the outlaw Supreme Judicial Court judges who
imposed this oxymoron on the people of Massachusetts. Supported by
taxpayers' money, she makes daily, face-to-face visits to individual
lawmakers. Nice work if you can get it.
Too bad you couldn't make it to the gym teachers' state convention in
New Jersey, in February. It wasn't about volleyball. For public school
gym teachers, Job One--according to the convention's floor displays,
handouts, posters, and workshop topics (all of which I saw
personally)--is getting the kids comfy with homosexuality. To this
end, they handed out a "resource guide"--handsomely produced, slick,
paid for largely by Fleet Bank
Inc.--intended for distribution in all the public schools. (For more
information, see my article, "Now It's the Gym Teachers," in the
February archive of the Chalcedon website, chalcedon.edu.)
You would have seen even more of the same at "Twenty Years of Great
Sex (Ed)" last year, a national conference of "sex educators" hosted
by Rutgers, New Jersey's taxpayer-funded state university. Again,
there was no effort to hide the educators' whole-hearted penchant for
homosexuality...
Where is there an example of a NEA member suggesting that a child should
"try gay sex" as is mentioned at the start of this post?
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24 Jul 2005 11:40:26 PM |
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Topaz wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:26:21 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
Wait a sec... I thought that rightists currently "ruled America?"
You were wrong.
NEA, Gay Militants: Joined At The Hip
Lee Duigon
If a private citizen tells his neighbor's children that they ought to
try gay sex, he might wind up in a correctional facility. If he talks
that way to your 13-year-old son, you'll want him put away-pronto.
But when this very same behavior, toward the same children, is
displayed by adults who belong to America's biggest teachers' union,
most parents simply let them do it. In fact, they pay them to.
Cite this assertion.
The NEA is committed to the cause of militant homosexuality.
Cite?
It's the
richest, most politically powerful union in America, and it has daily
access to most of America's children. And it wants to recruit them for
the homosexual lifestyle.
Cite?
Lean this equation, America:
Public schools=The homosexual agenda
What do you mean?
If you don't believe it, visit nea-glc.org/, the website of the
National Education Association's Gay and Lesbian Coalition. There,
among their "great achievements" in shaping NEA policy, the homosexual
militants cite the NEA's promotion of "the lesbian-gay-bisexual
curriculum" and "family life education... regarding the diversity of
sexual orientation."
I do not see what you are claiming on this website. Are you trying to
say that the NEA is doing "homosexual recruiting"? Can you cite this
assertion?
The NEA has also campaigned for the proclamation of
"Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transsexual History Month" (try putting that on
a T-shirt), homosexual studies at Catholic colleges--and, of course,
homosexual "marriage."
And?
The people of Massachusetts know the teachers' union's commitment to
"gay marriage." Aline Isaacson of GLSEN (Gay-Lesbian-Straight
Education Network), the media's favorite poster gal for "gay
marriage", is also--surprise!-a paid consultant to the Massachusetts
teachers' union. Paid in taxpayer dollars, to boot. (You may remember
Massachusetts GLSEN from a few years ago as the organizers of graphic,
intensely perverted sex "workshops" for public school children--a
scandal that came to be known as "fist-gate.")
No, I don't know about this. Can you cite this assertion? However, I
do see that you are against education.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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25 Jul 2005 07:08:30 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 04:40:26 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
Cite this assertion.
The NEA is committed to the cause of militant homosexuality.
Cite?
Go to the NEA website and you will can find out their views. Click
on health and so on until you get to the homosexual perverts.
It's the
richest, most politically powerful union in America, and it has daily
access to most of America's children. And it wants to recruit them for
the homosexual lifestyle.
Cite?
Lean this equation, America:
Public schools=The homosexual agenda
What do you mean?'
The schools are enemy brainwashing camps run by perverts.
If you don't believe it, visit nea-glc.org/, the website of the
National Education Association's Gay and Lesbian Coalition. There,
among their "great achievements" in shaping NEA policy, the homosexual
militants cite the NEA's promotion of "the lesbian-gay-bisexual
curriculum" and "family life education... regarding the diversity of
sexual orientation."
I do not see what you are claiming on this website. Are you trying to
say that the NEA is doing "homosexual recruiting"? Can you cite this
assertion?
Yes. Click on health and so on until your get to the perverts.
The NEA has also campaigned for the proclamation of
"Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transsexual History Month" (try putting that on
a T-shirt), homosexual studies at Catholic colleges--and, of course,
homosexual "marriage."
And?
The people of Massachusetts know the teachers' union's commitment to
"gay marriage." Aline Isaacson of GLSEN (Gay-Lesbian-Straight
Education Network), the media's favorite poster gal for "gay
marriage", is also--surprise!-a paid consultant to the Massachusetts
teachers' union. Paid in taxpayer dollars, to boot. (You may remember
Massachusetts GLSEN from a few years ago as the organizers of graphic,
intensely perverted sex "workshops" for public school children--a
scandal that came to be known as "fist-gate.")
No, I don't know about this. Can you cite this assertion? However, I
do see that you are against education.
What you call "education" is the most evil propaganda that has ever
corrupted the earth.
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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25 Jul 2005 08:27:20 PM |
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Topaz wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 04:40:26 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
Cite this assertion.
The NEA is committed to the cause of militant homosexuality.
Cite?
Go to the NEA website and you will can find out their views. Click
on health and so on until you get to the homosexual perverts.
It's the
richest, most politically powerful union in America, and it has daily
access to most of America's children. And it wants to recruit them for
the homosexual lifestyle.
Cite?
Lean this equation, America:
Public schools=The homosexual agenda
What do you mean?'
The schools are enemy brainwashing camps run by perverts.
Can you cite this assertion? When I was in school, they seemed to care
more about the hypotneuse of a right-triangle. They didn't even mention
perversion throughout all my years of school.
If you don't believe it, visit nea-glc.org/, the website of the
National Education Association's Gay and Lesbian Coalition. There,
among their "great achievements" in shaping NEA policy, the homosexual
militants cite the NEA's promotion of "the lesbian-gay-bisexual
curriculum" and "family life education... regarding the diversity of
sexual orientation."
I do not see what you are claiming on this website. Are you trying to
say that the NEA is doing "homosexual recruiting"? Can you cite this
assertion?
Yes. Click on health and so on until your get to the perverts.
I see no perversion here. Can you give me an URL to look at? If it's
overly long, please feel free to use a service like TinyURL to shorten it.
Thanks a bunch, sugar.
The NEA has also campaigned for the proclamation of
"Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transsexual History Month" (try putting that on
a T-shirt), homosexual studies at Catholic colleges--and, of course,
homosexual "marriage."
And?
The people of Massachusetts know the teachers' union's commitment to
"gay marriage." Aline Isaacson of GLSEN (Gay-Lesbian-Straight
Education Network), the media's favorite poster gal for "gay
marriage", is also--surprise!-a paid consultant to the Massachusetts
teachers' union. Paid in taxpayer dollars, to boot. (You may remember
Massachusetts GLSEN from a few years ago as the organizers of graphic,
intensely perverted sex "workshops" for public school children--a
scandal that came to be known as "fist-gate.")
No, I don't know about this. Can you cite this assertion? However, I
do see that you are against education.
What you call "education" is the most evil propaganda that has ever
corrupted the earth.
Yes. We know how much religious extremists hate education. :-)
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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26 Jul 2005 09:36:20 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:27:20 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
The schools are enemy brainwashing camps run by perverts.
Can you cite this assertion? When I was in school, they seemed to care
more about the hypotneuse of a right-triangle. They didn't even mention
perversion throughout all my years of school.
That was then, this is now.
I see no perversion here. Can you give me an URL to look at? If it's
overly long, please feel free to use a service like TinyURL to shorten it.
First go to the NEA website.
http://www.nea.org/index.html
point to Issues in Education
click Other Issues
click Health
click HIV/AIDS Education Program for School Employees
on the bottom click Helpful Hotlinks
click Advocates for Youth
click Gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender & questioning (GLBTQ) youth
This is what it says:
Gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and questioning (GLBTQ) youth
face tremendous difficulties growing up in a society where
heterosexuality is often presented as the only acceptable orientation,
and homosexuality is regarded as deviant. Research suggests that
homophobia and heterosexism greatly contribute to higher rates of
suicide, violence victimization, risk behavior for HIV infection, and
substance abuse among GLBTQ youth as compared to their heterosexual
peers. In recent years, however, a number of promising programs have
been established to help GLBTQ youth gain the skills and support they
need to develop into healthy adults in a society that largely rejects
them.
Advocates for Youth has also developed a program to help decrease the
isolation felt by many GLBTQ youth. Using the Internet as an
intervention strategy, Advocates has established several Web sites
targeting young people with information, support, and referrals
regarding adolescent sexual and reproductive health. Click below for
more information:
Or instead of Advocates for Youth you could click SIECUS
near the bottom click About SIECUS
It says:
Media Outreach: SIECUS provides major news sources with information on
advances in reproductive healthcare, family communication about
sexuality, sexuality education, prevention programs, the inadequacies
of abstinence-only-until-marriage programs, and the many issues faced
by gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and questioning youth. By
engaging and educating influential media outlets, SIECUS is moving the
public discourse on these critical issues to be more open and honest.
For more information see, please see Media.
Thanks a bunch, sugar.
Yes. We know how much religious extremists hate education. :-)
"Anything good in Western civilization is said to have been stolen
from Black Africa including the English language. Professors claim
that Egyptians were blacks and that Aristotle stole his ideas from the
Egyptian library in Alexandria. The "distinguished scholars" who make
these claims are not sufficiently learned to know that the library was
built after the death of Aristotle. One know-nothing, Martin Bernal,
at Cornell (of course) ignores the Mycenaen, Achaean, Dorian and
Ionian wells of ancient Greek culture in
order to attribute the origins of Greek culture to Africa.
The white kids who attend Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Cornell,
Stanford, Michigan, University of California, Duke, wherever, are
enculturated into a pathology of guilt over evils allegedly
perpetrated by their forebears. They are brainwashed into accepting
unequal rights and limitations on their speech as atonements for the
sins of their fathers. Those who resist are sentenced to "sensitivity
training," accused of various harassment crimes, and expelled.
Propaganda, not the interplay of ideas, rules the universities. It
is routine for speakers who challenge the lies to be driven from the
podium, as was Ann Coulter recently at that "great" university,
Cornell....
"Academics have buried Western civilization under a mountain of
lies. The great books are not burned, but they are discredited with
the charge that the great thinkers in the past were apologists for a
"white hegemonic order."
The erasing of our culture progresses rapidly. Several years ago
it came to light that students in an Illinois public school were being
taught that the ancient Egyptians were blacks who flew among the
pyramids until whites arrived and killed the blacks who could fly. The
reasons given for teaching this nonsense was to improve the
self-esteem of black children and to explain to them why they don't
live in the big houses."
Paul Craig Roberts is a columnist for The Washington Times and is
nationally syndicated.
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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20 Jul 2005 08:21:34 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:15:09 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 05:56:10 -0700 in alt.atheism, maf 1029 (maf 1029
<guesswho@yahoo.nopsamnet>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:17:17 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 04:12:15 -0700 in alt.atheism, maf 1029 (maf 1029
<guesswho@yahoo.nopsamnet>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:04:52 +1000, "Ben Cramer"
<bencramer7@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:unopd1l2vgonespcdmua5eqsb5hk8gl5g7@4ax.com...
On 18 Jul 2005 20:27:35 -0700 in alt.atheism, J Young ("J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Article1964.html
Q. Was Hitler gay?
Happy as a frog in a sock.
Just ask all his female mistresses:
Geli Raubal (niece),Eva Braun, Leni Riefenstahl, Gretl Slezak, Anny
Winter, Maria Reiter-Kubisch, and Inga Ley,
Indiscreet quote from Eva: "He's very erotic on the floor".
Makes you think, eh? Though possibly not along wholesome lines...
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