Religions > Atheism > We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!"
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Religions > Atheism |
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"Kang" |
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06 Jan 2005 03:29:58 PM |
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We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
The Democrats that stood up today did a fine thing.
Was it enough?
No, it wasn't
Do the criminals win the day?
NO, HELL NO!!!
They are going to laugh for a while but as soon as more wars start, more
boys die "over there", more crimes take place the people is going to take
their government back.
The fraud is about to explode. Now, to those of you who get it:
Phase 2 is coming.
You need to "escalate the conflict". Take some pages of their own playbook.
Do not accept the words of Dems that are "rethug wannabes".
Pick the right people to run next time.
I know what I'm going to do next. I'm going to contact the people working
to uncover the fraud. These bastards will pay for what they did, but
writing on the Internet will not be enough.
Take the corporate media whores to task. Write daily emails to those
fuckers, do something daily, guys!
Is not that hard!
And sorry, John F. Kerry will not run in the next election.
He had it, he gave it up...
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| User: "Gunner" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
10 Jan 2005 09:20:10 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:48:10 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:06:54 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
Click on a few of the links that came up.
I did. Didnt see any torture. Please point some out to me.
Now you're just being deliberately ignorant. Good sheep. Go buy
something.
So you are unable to point out any of the torture you keep claiming is
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP. When he supplies
some actual torture cites, Ill be happy to discuss them with him.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture. It may be uncomfortable, it
may be unpleasent, and by some, it might even be called abuse, but
torture it aint.
However its torture you and your butt buddy keep babbling about and
what have gotten you both soundly spanked for.
As to the legality of it, you may comfortably leave out any
recognition of the detainees by the GC, as they are not covered. Im
also fascinated by the fact that the military had already been well
into an investigation of the actions at Abu Grabe, long before it hit
the media, and were setting the stage for disciplinary actions against
those involved as the treatment of the prisoners was against military
regulations in some case. Not the GC, but the rules of the military
itself. Not law, not SCOTUS, but internal rules of conduct.
Which is why I find it fascinating that you and your ilk attempt to
make a big deal out of it, try painting it as SOP, when even you
should know that it was anomolous actions by only a few and they were
in the process of being disaplined for it, long before you and your
crew stuck your oars in.
So its evident that your concern was not for the the treatment of the
prisoners, but to demonize the military as a whole along with the
administration.
Which simply shows how disengenious you scum really are, as you care
nothing for the prisoners, but only how much of a political stink you
can make. So much for your claims of Concerns for the Human Rights
angle. poof..up in sulpherous smoke. Gone like a noxious fart in the
wind.
You simply need somone to hate, and you prefer to hate your own
country, and your own military. The country and military that has
protected your right to hate all that do not share your squalid
beliefs. The right to hate the fact that you Leftists are no longer in
charge, are a dying breed of noxious political has beens.
Deal with it. Find a 12 step program. Slit your wrists. Frankly I
could care less what your choice is. Shrug you mean absolutly nothing
on the grand scheme of things and daily you mean even less.
Gunner
Ray Felcher
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
10 Jan 2005 09:53:08 PM |
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Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:48:10 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:06:54 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
Click on a few of the links that came up.
I did. Didnt see any torture. Please point some out to me.
Now you're just being deliberately ignorant. Good sheep. Go buy
something.
So you are unable to point out any of the torture you keep claiming is
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP.
God! A clue!
When he supplies
some actual torture cites,
Looks like he did.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture.
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Strider" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
10 Jan 2005 10:16:50 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:53:08 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:48:10 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:06:54 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
Click on a few of the links that came up.
I did. Didnt see any torture. Please point some out to me.
Now you're just being deliberately ignorant. Good sheep. Go buy
something.
So you are unable to point out any of the torture you keep claiming is
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP.
God! A clue!
When he supplies
some actual torture cites,
Looks like he did.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture.
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Gads, Ray, how do you manage to keep a functional keyboard with all
that rabid drool dripping from your lips all the time?
Strider
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| User: "Gunner" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
10 Jan 2005 10:27:27 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:53:08 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP.
God! A clue!
When he supplies
some actual torture cites,
Looks like he did.
Actually no. He posted cites for what he considers torture. Which few
other people share.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture.
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
However in your case, I do make the exception.
Now go back to the dance floor and listen to the music as the USS DNC
slowly sinks by the bow. Snicker.
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Ray Felcher
Gunner
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
10 Jan 2005 10:53:54 PM |
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Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:53:08 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP.
God! A clue!
When he supplies
some actual torture cites,
Looks like he did.
Actually no. He posted cites for what he considers torture. Which few
other people share.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture.
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gunner" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
11 Jan 2005 01:32:04 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:53:54 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:53:08 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP.
God! A clue!
When he supplies
some actual torture cites,
Looks like he did.
Actually no. He posted cites for what he considers torture. Which few
other people share.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture.
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
You feel the same way too? Cool. I know your buds on the Left have
used that for many many years. No lie to big, no politician too
crooked, the Left will always use whatever means necessary to push
their agenda.
I wonder Raymundo...what you would do in the kidnapped wife and
daughter scenario ( btw....the other dumb ***** just got delivered a
garbage bag containing the heads of his wife and daughter. I hope his
moral outlook was worth their deaths)
Lets shoot for the moon Raymundo. Lets go for broke shall we?
The tangos have concealed a pony nuke somewhere in your town. You
have the dude and the clock is ticking. You have 3 hours to get the
info from the fellah. If you dont..the nuke kills your family, your
dog, your neighborhood and most of the people in your town, the
survivors of which will be horribly burned, maimed or dismembered.
You have a pair of handcuffs, a Bible, a copy of the Geneva
Convention, and a well equipped tool box.
What are you going to do to stop the nuke Ray, hum?
Just wondering how far you are willing to go.
Tell us Ray. Are you willing to do nasty things to this fellow, or are
you willing to let everyone die or be maimed hideously?
Speak up Ray..the clock is ticking.
Gunner
Ill be waiting
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
11 Jan 2005 09:16:50 AM |
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Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
You feel the same way too?
No. Unlike you I don't justify terrorism.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gunner" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
11 Jan 2005 09:46:03 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:16:50 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
You feel the same way too?
No. Unlike you I don't justify terrorism.
Sure you do. You dont want the terrorists such as Al Quida stopped.
Gunner
ray felcher
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
11 Jan 2005 10:34:28 AM |
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Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
You feel the same way too?
No. Unlike you I don't justify terrorism.
Sure you do.
You're a liar.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Cliff" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
12 Jan 2005 03:48:03 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:46:03 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:16:50 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
You feel the same way too?
No. Unlike you I don't justify terrorism.
Sure you do. You dont want the terrorists such as Al Quida stopped.
Gunner
ray felcher
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
You'd best impeach Herr shrubbie really, really fast then.
He's managed to at least triple the number of "terrorist"
attacks, spread "terrorists" worldwide, start up at least
50 new "terrorist groups", dismantle all remaining US
credibility worldwide, get the Islamic League going really
well, get Europe to start a non-NATO defense group (probably
to defend AGAINST the US), managed to get the dead North
Korean nuclear bomb program up & running again, spent the US
about into bankruptcy, .....
BTW, Where's his best buddy Ken Lay these days? In his
$7 million apartment (http://www.wral.com/money/1213159/detail.html)
or Andy Fastow's new mansion
(http://www.forbes.com/2002/10/25/cx_bs_1025movers.html)?
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Cliff
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| User: "Starshine Moonbeam" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
12 Jan 2005 08:53:27 PM |
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In article <3ov6u0tjrs0dshv6sron2tb94a7n6incm0@4ax.com>, Gunner
(gunner@lightspeed.net) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:53:54 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:53:08 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP.
God! A clue!
When he supplies
some actual torture cites,
Looks like he did.
Actually no. He posted cites for what he considers torture. Which few
other people share.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture.
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
You feel the same way too?
And the debate ends here. You don't give a ***** about torture anyway so
any meaningful discussion on the subject with you is over.
--
Starshine Moonbeam
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
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| User: "Strider" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
12 Jan 2005 09:18:13 PM |
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:53:27 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <3ov6u0tjrs0dshv6sron2tb94a7n6incm0@4ax.com>, Gunner
(gunner@lightspeed.net) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:53:54 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:53:08 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP.
God! A clue!
When he supplies
some actual torture cites,
Looks like he did.
Actually no. He posted cites for what he considers torture. Which few
other people share.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture.
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
You feel the same way too?
And the debate ends here. You don't give a ***** about torture anyway so
any meaningful discussion on the subject with you is over.
Whatever is eating you - must be suffering horribly.
Strider
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| User: "Starshine Moonbeam" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
13 Jan 2005 04:22:46 PM |
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In article <12qbu0p36o5b79s33n8jv2p6b3pucj4r6a@4ax.com>, Strider
(strider@usit.net) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:53:27 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <3ov6u0tjrs0dshv6sron2tb94a7n6incm0@4ax.com>, Gunner
(gunner@lightspeed.net) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:53:54 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:53:08 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP.
God! A clue!
When he supplies
some actual torture cites,
Looks like he did.
Actually no. He posted cites for what he considers torture. Which few
other people share.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture.
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
You feel the same way too?
And the debate ends here. You don't give a ***** about torture anyway so
any meaningful discussion on the subject with you is over.
Whatever is eating you - must be suffering horribly.
Meaning...what again?
--
Starshine Moonbeam
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
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| User: "Strider" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
13 Jan 2005 07:16:15 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:22:46 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <12qbu0p36o5b79s33n8jv2p6b3pucj4r6a@4ax.com>, Strider
(strider@usit.net) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:53:27 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <3ov6u0tjrs0dshv6sron2tb94a7n6incm0@4ax.com>, Gunner
(gunner@lightspeed.net) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:53:54 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:53:08 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP.
God! A clue!
When he supplies
some actual torture cites,
Looks like he did.
Actually no. He posted cites for what he considers torture. Which few
other people share.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture.
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
You feel the same way too?
And the debate ends here. You don't give a ***** about torture anyway so
any meaningful discussion on the subject with you is over.
Whatever is eating you - must be suffering horribly.
Meaning...what again?
Clack you remaining two neurons together until you get a spark and
think about it.
Strider
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| User: "AngryJohn" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
13 Jan 2005 07:24:48 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:22:46 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <12qbu0p36o5b79s33n8jv2p6b3pucj4r6a@4ax.com>, Strider
(strider@usit.net) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:53:27 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <3ov6u0tjrs0dshv6sron2tb94a7n6incm0@4ax.com>, Gunner
(gunner@lightspeed.net) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:53:54 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:53:08 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Given the you consider being flayed alive justifiable it's hardly
surprising that you refuse to see any torture.
My opinion is not relevant to the claims of the OP.
God! A clue!
When he supplies
some actual torture cites,
Looks like he did.
Actually no. He posted cites for what he considers torture. Which few
other people share.
Being forced to listen to Black Sabbath while wearing womens undies on
their head is not in any sense torture.
But then, as you just wrote, your opinion isn't relevant. Not that
you care. You're just a terrorist wannabe who wants to see people
dead.
Actually Raymundo, I would rather people live to a ripe old age.
Ill give you a hint..if it requires peeling the skin off someone
captured on a battle field, or while committing an act of terrorism,
slowly and without the benefit of anesthetic, to save the life of one
innocent Iraqi, or one GI, Ill be glad to help with the task.
The ends justify the means.
You feel the same way too?
And the debate ends here. You don't give a ***** about torture anyway so
any meaningful discussion on the subject with you is over.
Whatever is eating you - must be suffering horribly.
Meaning...what again?
Your posts are fucking torture.
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| User: "Cliff" |
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11 Jan 2005 03:53:23 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:27:27 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
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Actually no. He posted cites for what he considers torture. Which few
other people share.
I'd guess that you mean the courts, the law, the US military & such
by "few".
Copy my post for the idiot.
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Cliff
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| User: "Cliff" |
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11 Jan 2005 03:50:52 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:20:10 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
actual torture cites
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+cuba+us
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+iraq+us
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+afghanistan+us
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+secret+us
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+camps+us&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+abduction+us&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+bush+us
Someone copy this post so that the poor idiot gummer cannot claim
that he got none of his much beloved "cites".
This should keep him too busy to play with a maglite & his guns ..
HTH
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| User: "Guido" |
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11 Jan 2005 04:34:22 PM |
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Cliff wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:20:10 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
actual torture cites
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+cuba+us
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+iraq+us
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+afghanistan+us
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+secret+us
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+camps+us&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+abduction+us&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=torture+bush+us
Someone copy this post so that the poor idiot gummer cannot claim
that he got none of his much beloved "cites".
Won't do any good according to Mysterion Gunner's kill filed
everyone except Strider.
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| User: "Cliff" |
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11 Jan 2005 03:44:17 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:49:01 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:31:25 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <0ip1u0lbmaapmi5240kfm0jslhmp5uk9e2@4ax.com>, Gunner
(gunner@lightspeed.net) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:41:29 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
You might have missed the torture pics that were spread all over the
world. That's okay, just keep your head in the sand for your corporate
masters and remember, spend, spend, spend!!
I didn't see any picture of Bush torturing anyone. In fact, I didn't
see any torture at all. Please post cites.
Type in "Iraqi Prisoner Abuse" into any search engine.
HTH, HASD
I did. So where is the torture?
Click on a few of the links that came up.
I did. Didnt see any torture. Please point some out to me.
Gunner
"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better,
on average, than the citizens of Baltimore.
True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee,
but why this is more stylish than
sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
-- P.J O'Rourke (1989)
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Hey, per Herr shrubbie, Rumsfeld, Cheney & Gonzales it's all
just part of the new welfare healthcare system, right?
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Cliff
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| User: "Sea Wasp" |
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09 Jan 2005 05:46:51 PM |
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Starshine Moonbeam wrote:
Click on a few of the links that came up.
None of those show Bush torturing anyone. Which was what he was
asking for.
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
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Live Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/seawasp/
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| User: "Starshine Moonbeam" |
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09 Jan 2005 06:35:39 PM |
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In article <41E1C2BA.8040909@sgeobviousinc.com>, Sea Wasp
(seaobviouswasp@sgeobviousinc.com) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
Starshine Moonbeam wrote:
Click on a few of the links that came up.
None of those show Bush torturing anyone. Which was what he was
asking for.
And Bush while not torturing anybody personally, is the commander in
chief and could end it at anytime.
Not that it will make any difference to your line of "Kill 'em all"
thinking.
--
Starshine Moonbeam
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
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| User: "Cliff" |
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11 Jan 2005 03:09:37 PM |
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:35:39 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <41E1C2BA.8040909@sgeobviousinc.com>, Sea Wasp
(seaobviouswasp@sgeobviousinc.com) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
Starshine Moonbeam wrote:
Click on a few of the links that came up.
None of those show Bush torturing anyone. Which was what he was
asking for.
And Bush while not torturing anybody personally, is the commander in
chief and could end it at anytime.
Not that it will make any difference to your line of "Kill 'em all"
thinking.
Hitler should also get the "medal of freedom", right?
--
Cliff
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| User: "Starshine Moonbeam" |
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12 Jan 2005 08:53:20 PM |
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In article <o0g8u0986mc7faqeq4hutvnu95315bo4pn@4ax.com>, Cliff
(Clhuprich@aol.com) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:35:39 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <41E1C2BA.8040909@sgeobviousinc.com>, Sea Wasp
(seaobviouswasp@sgeobviousinc.com) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
Starshine Moonbeam wrote:
Click on a few of the links that came up.
None of those show Bush torturing anyone. Which was what he was
asking for.
And Bush while not torturing anybody personally, is the commander in
chief and could end it at anytime.
Not that it will make any difference to your line of "Kill 'em all"
thinking.
Hitler should also get the "medal of freedom", right?
Nice strawman.
If your faith-based education can't handle keeping up then just
shut up.
--
Starshine Moonbeam
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
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| User: "Cliff" |
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| Title: Re: We are going to need to say this over and over again: "Bush stole it!" |
13 Jan 2005 04:39:46 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:53:20 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <o0g8u0986mc7faqeq4hutvnu95315bo4pn@4ax.com>, Cliff
(Clhuprich@aol.com) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:35:39 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <41E1C2BA.8040909@sgeobviousinc.com>, Sea Wasp
(seaobviouswasp@sgeobviousinc.com) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
Starshine Moonbeam wrote:
Click on a few of the links that came up.
None of those show Bush torturing anyone. Which was what he was
asking for.
And Bush while not torturing anybody personally, is the commander in
chief and could end it at anytime.
Not that it will make any difference to your line of "Kill 'em all"
thinking.
Hitler should also get the "medal of freedom", right?
Nice strawman.
You following the gunlogic?
If your faith-based education can't handle keeping up then just
shut up.
Faith in guns? Or faith in Herr shrubbie's voices telling him
things? They would seem to be dead wrong at least 95% of the
time .....
Found those WMDs & stuff yet?
Guess that those voices are really from the other side after all.
HTH
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Cliff
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| User: "Sea Wasp" |
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09 Jan 2005 09:09:04 PM |
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Starshine Moonbeam wrote:
In article <41E1C2BA.8040909@sgeobviousinc.com>, Sea Wasp
(seaobviouswasp@sgeobviousinc.com) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
None of those show Bush torturing anyone. Which was what he was
asking for.
And Bush while not torturing anybody personally, is the commander in
chief and could end it at anytime.
Not that it will make any difference to your line of "Kill 'em all"
thinking.
My line of "kill'em all" thinking? Interesting, as I never said
anything about my own lines of thinking. Nice projection there.
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
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09 Jan 2005 04:42:07 PM |
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:07:35 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:41:29 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
You might have missed the torture pics that were spread all over the
world. That's okay, just keep your head in the sand for your corporate
masters and remember, spend, spend, spend!!
I didn't see any picture of Bush torturing anyone. In fact, I didn't
see any torture at all. Please post cites.
Type in "Iraqi Prisoner Abuse" into any search engine.
HTH, HASD
I did. So where is the torture?
Gunner
"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better,
on average, than the citizens of Baltimore.
True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee,
but why this is more stylish than
sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
-- P.J O'Rourke (1989)
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He missed the arguments from the White House involving
definitions about medical care & suchlike.
OTOH He could not actually pay for medical care (guns are
all so much more important than health insurance for him or
his family) so the liberals gave it to him anyway .... probably
even got to keep all his guns ... and pay his NRA dues .... and
sign up $$ for more wingerblogs ...
So now he blames liberals for the heart attack treatment
that kept him alive ......
--
Cliff
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| User: "Jez" |
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09 Jan 2005 07:16:41 AM |
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Strider wrote:
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:23:46 -0600, Starshine Moonbeam
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
In article <dtf0u0lvud7khhpdsv6pqg1qe6vtsvtvoq@4ax.com>, Strider
(strider@usit.net) dropped a +5 bundle of words...
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 04:59:23 +0000, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Cliff <Clhuprich@aol.com>
wrote back on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:09:31 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:06:23 GMT, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Strider <strider@usit.net>
wrote back on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:17:42 -0500 in alt.machines.cnc :
And sorry, John F. Kerry will not run in the next election.
Latest poll results show Kerry and Clinton both coming in after "Commit
Suicide" as the preferred choice of Democrats in 2008. But I digress ...
He had it, he gave it up...
You lost the election.
How do you know? It's obvious that you don't care.
It's obvious that the Democrats still don't care about minor details
like war crimes, lies and fakery.
Well, that's probably not quite true.
How many did you say just voted for more of it?
What can I say, the Democrats ran a self-declared war criminal, then
accused the Republicans of having a War Criminal in office.
Obviously, the Democrat voters, considered an active war criminal to be
more credible than one who hasn't don't anything in thirty years. No
wonder Kerry lost.
Whats Bush ?
A war criminal.
Cites?
You might have missed the torture pics that were spread all over the
world. That's okay, just keep your head in the sand for your corporate
masters and remember, spend, spend, spend!!
I didn't see any picture of Bush torturing anyone. In fact, I didn't
see any torture at all. Please post cites.
The war was Illegal from the start.
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
yahoo ID: hellward2004
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09 Jan 2005 11:13:31 AM |
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:16:41 +0000, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
I didn't see any picture of Bush torturing anyone. In fact, I didn't
see any torture at all. Please post cites.
The war was Illegal from the start.
You have already made your opinion clear. The request was for cites.
Please provide them.
"Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink"
Gunner
"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better,
on average, than the citizens of Baltimore.
True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee,
but why this is more stylish than
sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
-- P.J O'Rourke (1989)
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| User: "Jez" |
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09 Jan 2005 11:39:50 AM |
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Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:16:41 +0000, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
I didn't see any picture of Bush torturing anyone. In fact, I didn't
see any torture at all. Please post cites.
The war was Illegal from the start.
You have already made your opinion clear. The request was for cites.
Please provide them.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=iraq+war+illegal&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N
"Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink"
So you'd prefer to think what your corrupt government tells you is it,
rather than think for yourself !
Your a fucking idiot, dude !
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
yahoo ID: hellward2004
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| User: "Guido" |
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09 Jan 2005 12:02:06 PM |
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Jez wrote:
Gunner wrote:
You have already made your opinion clear. The request was for cites.
Please provide them.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=iraq+war+illegal&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N
NOTE: Gunner will cut&paste blogs and such from any which
where, rarely actually reads past the title, and mostly
posts them as if they were his own words. Then cries CITES
CITES when ever challenged. Its not actually been determined
if he knows what a 'cite' is, current opinion is that he
belives its just an alternative spelling for 'blog', or
'site' as in 'website'.
Should you provide irrefutable evidence against his
nonesense his secondary tactic will be to say "take it up
with the author - I just posted it". Of course this doesn't
stop him reposting the refuted crap a week later.
"Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink"
So you'd prefer to think what your corrupt government tells you is it,
rather than think for yourself !
Your a fucking idiot, dude !
Nobody ever accused Gunner of being bright. I'm not saying
he's dense but when he goes indoors the ambient light level
of the surround distrinct increases.
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