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We're all born atheists and brainwashed to believe
By William Edeln*
We are all familiar with clich=E9 "born again" Well; here is an =
interesting thought to go with your morning coffee. If we were REALLY =
again, we would return to atheism. We would all be atheists. Why? =
Because that is the way we are born the first time around. Every baby =
that comes into this world has no belief in god, goddesses, Jesus, =
Buddha, Lao-Tzu, Shiva or anything else until such time as we brainwash, =
indoctrinate, threaten or coerce them into some adult belief system, the =
same one usually that we were brainwashed into as children.
Through acculturation, we become something other than what we =
were at birth. That is the definition of atheism. The only reason that =
you are a Christian is because you were born in America. You are not a =
Christian because you have studied all the major religious traditions =
of the world and then chosen to be Christian. You are not an =
Episcopalian because you have studied all of the 460 Christian belief =
systems of doctrine and then after study, chosen to be an Episcopalian =
because you were born in American into Episcopalian home were your =
parents made you to go to Sunday school. Had you been born in Japan, you =
would be Buddhist. Or Taoist Jewish Hindu, Moslem or whatever religion =
you were born into. Religious belief systems are only an accident of =
birth.
Historians of religion estimate that there have been at least =
100,000 distinctly different religious traditions over the past 150,000 =
years. Born atheists as we all are, babies quickly indoctrinated into =
the belief system of a family. The belief system will have its day and =
cease to be. The Egyptian myth of Isis, Horus and Osiris lasted for 4500 =
years before extinction. Historians are already calling this the "post =
-Christian era"
It seems to be so. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica =
non-believers are=20
1.4 billion now in numbers in the world. There is a sharp decline in =
financial support as reported by all major Christian denomination. =
Conservative William F. Buckley writes a national column asking "Are =
Churches No Longer Relevant?" documenting their importance. The New York =
Times news service headlines a story "BIBLE OR BUST," documenting the =
loss in sales a 48 percent drop from a year earlier. Some 60 percent of =
the people polled said they "don=92t have time for it and the Bible is =
no longer relevant. The resurrection of a free human spirit from this =
dying monolith will turn out to be one of the significant events in the =
history of civilization. Like the Phoenix, the spiritually free will =
rise alive from the ashes.
*Edelen, former adjunct professor of religious studies and anthropology.
Edited by New 1o.
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would=20
all be atheists. Why? Because that is the way we are born the first time =
around.=20
Every baby that comes into this world has no belief in god, goddesses, =
Jesus,=20
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years.=20
Born atheists as we all are, babies quickly indoctrinated into the =
belief system=20
of a family. The belief system will have its day and cease to be. The =
Egyptian=20
myth of Isis, Horus and Osiris lasted for 4500 years before extinction.=20
Historians are already calling this the "post -Christian era"
<SPAN=20
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It seems to be so. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica =
non-believers=20
are 
1.4 =
billion now in=20
numbers in the world. There is a sharp decline in financial support as =
reported=20
by all major Christian denomination. Conservative William F. Buckley =
writes a=20
national column asking "Are Churches No Longer Relevant?" documenting =
their=20
importance. The New York Times news service headlines a story "BIBLE OR =
BUST,"=20
documenting the loss in sales a 48 percent drop from a year earlier. =
Some 60=20
percent of the people polled said they "don=92t have time for it and the =
Bible is=20
no longer relevant. The resurrection of a free human spirit from this =
dying=20
monolith will turn out to be one of the significant events in the =
history of=20
civilization. Like the =
<st1:City><st1:place>Phoenix</st1:place></st1:City>, the=20
spiritually free will rise alive from the ashes.
<SPAN=20
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religious=20
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Title: Re: We're all born atheists and brainwashed to believe	26 Oct 2003 06:07:21 AM

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"Newton Joseph" <drnjoseph@socal.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:dICmb.64858$th6.16292@twister.socal.rr.com...
We're all born atheists and brainwashed to believe
By William Edeln*
We are all familiar with clich=E9 "born again" Well; here is an =
interesting thought to go with your morning coffee. If we were REALLY =
again, we would return to atheism. We would all be atheists.=20

What about afascists, acommunists, acriminals?

Why? Because that is the way we are born the first time around. Every =
baby that comes into this world has no belief in god, goddesses, Jesus, =
Buddha, Lao-Tzu, Shiva or anything else until such time as we brainwash, =
indoctrinate, threaten or coerce them into some adult belief system, the =
same one usually that we were brainwashed into as children.

What about belief in fascism, communism, aliens and so on.

Through acculturation, we become something other than what =
we were at birth. That is the definition of atheism. The only reason =
that you are a Christian is because you were born in America. You are =
not a Christian because you have studied all the major religious =
traditions of the world and then chosen to be Christian. You are not an =
Episcopalian because you have studied all of the 460 Christian belief =
systems of doctrine and then after study, chosen to be an Episcopalian =
because you were born in American into Episcopalian home were your =
parents made you to go to Sunday school. Had you been born in Japan, you =
would be Buddhist. Or Taoist Jewish Hindu, Moslem or whatever religion =
you were born into. Religious belief systems are only an accident of =
birth.
Belief is something that in your head. There is no such thing as =
"religious belief" because it goes far beyond just a thought.
Historians of religion estimate that there have been at least =
100,000 distinctly different religious traditions over the past 150,000 =
years. Born atheists as we all are, babies quickly indoctrinated into =
the belief system of a family.=20

No, thats how business stays in business. Xeroxing and =

brainwashing future customers and soldiers. More is better.Thats why =
catholics,muslims and mormons have large families.
The belief system will have its day and cease to be. The Egyptian myth =
of Isis, Horus and Osiris lasted for 4500 years before extinction. =
Historians are already calling this the "post -Christian era"

Wrong. The business still the same, selling a diety for a profit. =

Concept didn't change, only names.
It seems to be so. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica =
non-believers are=20
1.4 billion now in numbers in the world. There is a sharp decline in =
financial support as reported by all major Christian denomination.=20

*****.

Conservative William F. Buckley writes a national column asking "Are =
Churches No Longer Relevant?" documenting their importance. The New York =
Times news service headlines a story "BIBLE OR BUST," documenting the =
loss in sales a 48 percent drop from a year earlier.

Lost in sales of what?=20

Some 60 percent of the people polled said they "don=92t have time for =
it and the Bible is no longer relevant. The resurrection of a free human =
spirit from this dying monolith will turn out to be one of the =
significant events in the history of civilization. Like the Phoenix, the =
spiritually free will rise alive from the ashes.

o what? A business will change the name once again, but the concept =

will remain the same. Money and power for nothing.
*Edelen, former adjunct professor of religious studies and =
anthropology.

How about simple logic?=20

Edited by New 1o.

Who cares?

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We're =
all born=20
atheists and brainwashed to believe<o:p></o:p>
By William Edeln<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 20pt">*<o:p></o:p>
We =
are all=20
familiar with clich=E9 "born again" Well; here is an interesting =
thought to go=20
with your morning coffee. If we were REALLY again, we would return to =
atheism.=20
We would all be atheists. 
 
 >What=20
about afascists, acommunists, acriminals?
 
Why? =
Because that=20
is the way we are born the first time around. Every baby that comes =
into this=20
world has no belief in god, goddesses, Jesus, Buddha, Lao-Tzu, Shiva =
or=20
anything else until such time as we brainwash, indoctrinate, threaten =
or=20
coerce them into some adult belief system, the same one usually that =
we were=20
brainwashed into as children.
 
  >What=20
about belief in fascism, communism, aliens and so on.
 
<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1">         =20
Through acculturation, we become something other than what we =
were at=20
birth. That is the definition of atheism. The only reason that you are =
a=20
Christian is because you were born in=20
=
<st1:country-region><st1:place>America</st1:place></st1:country-region>. =
You=20
are not a Christian  =
because you=20
have studied all the major religious traditions of the world and then =
chosen=20
to be Christian. You are not an Episcopalian because you have studied =
all of=20
the 460 Christian belief systems of doctrine and then after study, =
chosen to=20
be an Episcopalian because you were born in American into Episcopalian =
home=20
were your parents made you to go to Sunday school. Had you been born =
in=20
<st1:country-region><st1:place>Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region>, =
you=20
would be Buddhist. Or Taoist Jewish Hindu, Moslem or whatever religion =
you=20
were born into.  =
Religious belief=20
systems are only an accident of birth.
 
  Belief is=20
something that in your head. There is no such thing as "religious =
belief"=20
because it goes far beyond just a thought.
 
<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 20pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1">      =20
Historians of religion estimate that there have been at =
least=20
100,000 distinctly different religious traditions over the past =
150,000 years.=20
Born atheists as we all are, babies quickly indoctrinated into the =
belief=20
system of a family. 
 
  =20
>No, thats how business stays in business. Xeroxing and =
brainwashing future=20
customers and soldiers. More is better.Thats why catholics,muslims and =
mormons=20
have large families.
 
 
 
The =
belief system=20
will have its day and cease to be. The Egyptian myth of Isis, Horus =
and Osiris=20
lasted for 4500 years before extinction. Historians are already =
calling this=20
the "post -Christian era"
 
>Wrong. The=20
business still the same, selling a diety for a profit. Concept didn't =
change,=20
only names.
 
<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1">         =20
It seems to be so. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica=20
non-believers are 
1.4 =
billion now in=20
numbers in the world. There is a sharp decline in financial support as =
reported by all major Christian denomination. 
 
<FONT=20
size=3D3>>*****.
 
Conservative=20
William F. Buckley writes a national column asking "Are Churches No =
Longer=20
Relevant?" documenting their importance. The New York Times news =
service=20
headlines a story "BIBLE OR BUST," documenting the loss in sales a 48 =
percent=20
drop from a year earlier.
 
> =
Lost in sales=20
of what? 
 
 Some 60=20
percent of the people polled said they "don=92t have time for it and =
the Bible=20
is no longer relevant. The resurrection of a free human spirit from =
this dying=20
monolith will turn out to be one of the significant events in the =
history of=20
civilization. Like the =
<st1:City><st1:place>Phoenix</st1:place></st1:City>,=20
the spiritually free will rise alive from the ashes.
 
>o what? A=20
business will change the name once again, but the concept will remain =
the=20
same. Money and power for nothing.
 
<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 20pt">*Edelen, former adjunct professor of =
religious=20
studies and anthropology.
>How about=20
simple logic? 
 
<FONT=20
size=3D3><o:p></o:p> 
Edited by New=20
1o.
>Who=20
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