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26 Dec 2006 04:51:35 PM |
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What % are "called to serve God?" |
Okay, we know all about the sickening revelations with the RCC
being literally infested, apparently, with queers and pedophiles
pretending to be priests and how the RCC covered for them.
IMO, a person can't get any lower than to satisfy his perversions
by hiding behind fake religious conviction, to do probably the
most repulsive thing (certainly one of the most) a human could
do: molest and rape a trusting child as an authority figure
in church. It don't get no lower.
But let's move on to the nuns. It's no secret that MANY nuns are,
and have been, butch types. Sorry, but I find it hard to believe
that these butch broads (along with the male queer priests)
decided to move to these same-sex cloisters for anything much
more than their sexual perversions and preferences. Two questions:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
There's bound to be some REAL priests and nuns out there, so what
do they do (and what have they traditionally done) when the inevitable
Kornholery and clacker-lappery takes place? Look the other way
in disgust? Consider this an unpleasant side of the profession that
must be put up with? What?
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26 Dec 2006 05:42:11 PM |
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<floresrikitic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Okay, we know all about the sickening revelations with the RCC
being literally infested, apparently, with queers and pedophiles
pretending to be priests and how the RCC covered for them.
IMO, a person can't get any lower than to satisfy his perversions
by hiding behind fake religious conviction, to do probably the
most repulsive thing (certainly one of the most) a human could
do: molest and rape a trusting child as an authority figure
in church. It don't get no lower.
But let's move on to the nuns. It's no secret that MANY nuns are,
and have been, butch types. Sorry, but I find it hard to believe
that these butch broads (along with the male queer priests)
decided to move to these same-sex cloisters for anything much
more than their sexual perversions and preferences. Two questions:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
There's bound to be some REAL priests and nuns out there, so what
do they do (and what have they traditionally done) when the inevitable
Kornholery and clacker-lappery takes place? Look the other way
in disgust? Consider this an unpleasant side of the profession that
must be put up with? What?
It is a well known fact that one in twelve Apostles was a traitor.
What did the others do about it?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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27 Dec 2006 02:29:17 AM |
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:42:11 GMT, "H Dickmann" <HERPEM@bigpond.com>
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- Refer: <nrikh.13889$HU.1605@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
<floresrikitic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167173495.078886.247550@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
Okay, we know all about the sickening revelations with the RCC
being literally infested, apparently, with queers and pedophiles
pretending to be priests and how the RCC covered for them.
IMO, a person can't get any lower than to satisfy his perversions
by hiding behind fake religious conviction, to do probably the
most repulsive thing (certainly one of the most) a human could
do: molest and rape a trusting child as an authority figure
in church. It don't get no lower.
But let's move on to the nuns. It's no secret that MANY nuns are,
and have been, butch types. Sorry, but I find it hard to believe
that these butch broads (along with the male queer priests)
decided to move to these same-sex cloisters for anything much
more than their sexual perversions and preferences. Two questions:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
There's bound to be some REAL priests and nuns out there, so what
do they do (and what have they traditionally done) when the inevitable
Kornholery and clacker-lappery takes place? Look the other way
in disgust? Consider this an unpleasant side of the profession that
must be put up with? What?
It is a well known fact that one in twelve Apostles was a traitor.
What did the others do about it?
How is this "well known"?
It is well known that Harry Potter is gay.
So what?
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| User: "Burkeladies" |
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30 Dec 2006 12:37:01 PM |
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I think 100% can follow Christ. What % does is between the individual
and Christ.
Im guessing your roman-catholic. Homosexuality is not the inherent
problem. Any adultery which takes place is the problem and result of
the churches dogmas. The dogmas start the problems. Good luck to the
blind sheep who follow into priesthood and are ordianed broken instead
of whole. I live near Mahoney's Cathedral in LA. When he's in town
the protesters are there with Phoney MAHONEY painted on things!
I have found better priests and in the episcopal and universal churches.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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27 Dec 2006 02:28:23 AM |
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On 26 Dec 2006 14:51:35 -0800, wrote:
- Refer: <1167173495.078886.247550@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>
Okay, we know all about the sickening revelations with the RCC
being literally infested, apparently, with queers and pedophiles
pretending to be priests and how the RCC covered for them.
IMO, a person can't get any lower than to satisfy his perversions
by hiding behind fake religious conviction, to do probably the
most repulsive thing (certainly one of the most) a human could
do: molest and rape a trusting child as an authority figure
in church. It don't get no lower.
But let's move on to the nuns. It's no secret that MANY nuns are,
and have been, butch types. Sorry, but I find it hard to believe
that these butch broads (along with the male queer priests)
decided to move to these same-sex cloisters for anything much
more than their sexual perversions and preferences. Two questions:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
0%
Exactly the same % as those who have been called on to serve a
Sherlock Holmes.
How can anyone be "called on" to serve a fictional character?
There's bound to be some REAL priests and nuns out there, so what
do they do (and what have they traditionally done) when the inevitable
Kornholery and clacker-lappery takes place? Look the other way
in disgust? Consider this an unpleasant side of the profession that
must be put up with? What?
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Dec 2006 05:03:53 PM |
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On 26 Dec 2006 14:51:35 -0800, wrote:
Two questions:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
about 100%
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Agent Smith" |
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28 Dec 2006 07:07:58 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in news:ntu5p29on2r86jc96garn3u5mcj20ggf85
@4ax.com:
On 26 Dec 2006 14:51:35 -0800, wrote:
Two questions:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
about 100%
Right answer.
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28 Dec 2006 03:13:57 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:07:58 GMT, Agent Smith
<agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in news:ntu5p29on2r86jc96garn3u5mcj20ggf85
@4ax.com:
On 26 Dec 2006 14:51:35 -0800, wrote:
Two questions:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
about 100%
Right answer.
Thank you.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Agent Smith" |
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29 Dec 2006 01:49:53 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:7sc8p2lmm3lb4at3b38dljj2pt0i2j3jll@4ax.com:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:07:58 GMT, Agent Smith
<agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:ntu5p29on2r86jc96garn3u5mcj20ggf85 @4ax.com:
On 26 Dec 2006 14:51:35 -0800, wrote:
Two questions:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
about 100%
Right answer.
Thank you.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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Uh, oh. I can see by your sig that I'm speaking to a perfect
literalist. I'm a perfect cynic, and just by coincidence, our two
answers happened to be the same.
Sadly, the Mass is the most perfect form of gibberish, for those who
don't understand Latin.
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| User: "duke" |
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29 Dec 2006 06:50:28 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:49:53 GMT, Agent Smith
<agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
about 100%
Right answer.
Thank you.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Uh, oh. I can see by your sig that I'm speaking to a perfect
literalist. I'm a perfect cynic, and just by coincidence, our two
answers happened to be the same.
Ok.
Sadly, the Mass is the most perfect form of gibberish, for those who
don't understand Latin.
Latin? You mean pre-1965????
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Agent Smith" |
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29 Dec 2006 03:26:12 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:sl3ap21cracrt3eb0rk5i4hcdoek8q7313@4ax.com:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:49:53 GMT, Agent Smith
<agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
about 100%
Right answer.
Thank you.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Uh, oh. I can see by your sig that I'm speaking to a perfect
literalist. I'm a perfect cynic, and just by coincidence, our two
answers happened to be the same.
Ok.
Sadly, the Mass is the most perfect form of gibberish, for those who
don't understand Latin.
Latin? You mean pre-1965????
Well, if the Mass is the most perfect form of prayer, then Latin is the
most perfect form of the Mass. Otherwise the Mass is just a Catholic
religious service, no different from the services of other churches.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mike" |
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28 Dec 2006 07:13:57 AM |
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duke wrote:
On 26 Dec 2006 14:51:35 -0800, wrote:
Two questions:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
about 100%
Let me get this straight. The person who started this discussion
thread opined that the explanation for the rampant child molestation
problem in the RCC is that many of the offenders were fake priests who
did not feel called to serve God, but simply became priests for the
molestation opportunities. You, on the other hand, argue that they ARE
genuinely called to serve God and that they serve the Lord by diddling
altar boys. Please clarify your thoughts here. I am most interested
to understand your unique point of view.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "duke" |
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28 Dec 2006 03:19:01 PM |
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On 28 Dec 2006 05:13:57 -0800, "Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
about 100%
Let me get this straight. The person who started this discussion
thread opined that the explanation for the rampant child molestation
problem in the RCC is that many of the offenders were fake priests who
did not feel called to serve God, but simply became priests for the
molestation opportunities. You, on the other hand, argue that they ARE
genuinely called to serve God and that they serve the Lord by diddling
altar boys.
Nope, I didn't say that at all. I said that about 100% of the people called to
serve God do so because they wish to serve God. However, over all else, mankind
is mankind, and only Christ never sinned. Heb 4:15. Even the Pope says at Mass
"I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I will be healed".
Some men in the priesthood fall badly, and man not nearly at all.
About 100% of the men turning to the priesthood do so in order to serve God.
Please clarify your thoughts here. I am most interested
to understand your unique point of view.
All you're saying is that you're guilty of defining my words to your choosing
rather than to what I say.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mike" |
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29 Dec 2006 01:42:33 AM |
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duke wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 05:13:57 -0800, "Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
about 100%
Let me get this straight. The person who started this discussion
thread opined that the explanation for the rampant child molestation
problem in the RCC is that many of the offenders were fake priests who
did not feel called to serve God, but simply became priests for the
molestation opportunities. You, on the other hand, argue that they ARE
genuinely called to serve God and that they serve the Lord by diddling
altar boys.
Nope, I didn't say that at all. I said that about 100% of the people called to
serve God do so because they wish to serve God. However, over all else, mankind
is mankind, and only Christ never sinned. Heb 4:15. Even the Pope says at Mass
"I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I will be healed".
Some men in the priesthood fall badly, and man not nearly at all.
About 100% of the men turning to the priesthood do so in order to serve God.
Please clarify your thoughts here. I am most interested
to understand your unique point of view.
I doubt very much that the percentage of people who become priests
because they feel called to serve God is close to 100%. Most of them
probably at least delude themselves that they feel a calling, and this
number would vary from denomenation to denomenation. Catholics, I
think, have a particular problem with their priest candidates because
of their idiotic rule of priestly celibacy. Many Catholics who come
from traditional familes and happen to turn out gay or simply sexually
screwed up and unfit for normal married life might find it an appealing
option to become a priest rather than "come out" to their families. I
imagine that this is often an unconscious motivation on their part and
they do genuinely think that they join the priesthood for the right
reasons. Obviously I do not suggest that anything close to a majority
of Catholic priests fit this description. But I do think it explains
why the RCC gets such a disproportionate number of pervs, homos, and
child diddlers in their priesthood. The German shepard of the flock in
the Vatican who wears the silly hat should get rid of the stupid rule
against married priests.
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| User: "duke" |
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29 Dec 2006 06:21:23 AM |
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On 28 Dec 2006 23:42:33 -0800, "Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
I wonder what % of individuals who make these choices do it
for the REAL reason, i.e. being called to serve God.
about 100%
Let me get this straight. The person who started this discussion
thread opined that the explanation for the rampant child molestation
problem in the RCC is that many of the offenders were fake priests who
did not feel called to serve God, but simply became priests for the
molestation opportunities. You, on the other hand, argue that they ARE
genuinely called to serve God and that they serve the Lord by diddling
altar boys.
Nope, I didn't say that at all. I said that about 100% of the people called to
serve God do so because they wish to serve God. However, over all else, mankind
is mankind, and only Christ never sinned. Heb 4:15. Even the Pope says at Mass
"I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I will be healed".
Some men in the priesthood fall badly, and man not nearly at all.
About 100% of the men turning to the priesthood do so in order to serve God.
Please clarify your thoughts here. I am most interested
to understand your unique point of view.
I doubt very much that the percentage of people who become priests
because they feel called to serve God is close to 100%. Most of them
probably at least delude themselves that they feel a calling, and this
number would vary from denomenation to denomenation.
Delude themselves? How would you know? That's pure speculation on your part.
Your biggest error is in your "rampant child molestation problem in the RCC"
statement. That is totally untrue. I'm no longer sure of the latest number,
but I think it's still about 1.5% of the American priesthood that has **been
accused**. Most of those went thru formation is the 50-70's. And many are not
guilty and never came close to being molesters. And it's likely that many of
those that are "guilty" were in a shared "homosexual" relationship with youth
equally questionable of their own sexuality.
So I'll stick with my original statement that the priesthood is fully composed
of men that wished to serve God. Some fell, many did not.
Catholics, I
think, have a particular problem with their priest candidates because
of their idiotic rule of priestly celibacy.
Wrong - why are the largest group of child molesters stepfathers?
Many Catholics who come
from traditional familes and happen to turn out gay or simply sexually
screwed up and unfit for normal married life might find it an appealing
option to become a priest rather than "come out" to their families.
I gather you are unfamiliar with Mat 19:12.
Matthew 19:12 (New International Version)
12For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that
way by men; and others have renounced marriage[a]because of the kingdom of
heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."
Footnotes:
Matthew 19:12 Or have made themselves eunuchs
The German shepard of the flock in
the Vatican who wears the silly hat should get rid of the stupid rule
against married priests.
We have married priests now.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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29 Dec 2006 04:10:29 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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And it's likely that many of
those that are "guilty" were in a shared "homosexual" relationship with
youth
equally questionable of their own sexuality.
This from the guy who thinks it's OK to play with prepubescent female
relatives' nipples.
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| User: "duke" |
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30 Dec 2006 07:49:51 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:10:29 GMT, "Rev. Jones Says \"Drink More Koolaid\""
<lawtoniww@hotmail.com> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:i81ap21tl2ibldbc52rd1knp7pdh5jnj27@4ax.com...
And it's likely that many of
those that are "guilty" were in a shared "homosexual" relationship with
youth
equally questionable of their own sexuality.
This from the guy who thinks it's OK to play with prepubescent female
relatives' nipples.
Now, now, jonsie, you know good and well that's not true. That point was made
in a discussion of a double standard. Better luck next time.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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30 Dec 2006 11:02:39 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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Now, now, jonsie, you know good and well that's not true. That point was
made
in a discussion of a double standard. Better luck next time.
You seem to know quite a bit about double standards, Earl.
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29 Dec 2006 09:52:44 AM |
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duke wrote:
Delude themselves? How would you know? That's pure speculation on your part.
But a most reasonable bit of speculation, in my view.
Your biggest error is in your "rampant child molestation problem in the RCC"
statement. That is totally untrue. I'm no longer sure of the latest number,
but I think it's still about 1.5% of the American priesthood that has **been
accused**. Most of those went thru formation is the 50-70's. And many are not
guilty and never came close to being molesters.
How could a true priest be falsely accused of such a crime? (Okay,
there
could be a scumbag or two out to squeeze some $ out of the church,
by trying to, uh, finger an innocent priest, but it would take more
than
just one opportunistic creep to prove guilt.) Most of these queer
pseudo-
priests have quite a track record, it turns out.
Also, how many are guilty and managed to escape being exposed?
And it's likely that many of
those that are "guilty" were in a shared "homosexual" relationship with youth
equally questionable of their own sexuality.
This of course is no justification at all. Any such "priest" is no
priest.
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| User: "duke" |
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29 Dec 2006 01:39:49 PM |
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On 29 Dec 2006 07:52:44 -0800, wrote:
Delude themselves? How would you know? That's pure speculation on your part.
But a most reasonable bit of speculation, in my view.
See below.
Your biggest error is in your "rampant child molestation problem in the RCC"
statement. That is totally untrue. I'm no longer sure of the latest number,
but I think it's still about 1.5% of the American priesthood that has **been
accused**. Most of those went thru formation is the 50-70's. And many are not
guilty and never came close to being molesters.
How could a true priest be falsely accused of such a crime?
What do you mean by a true priest? A priest is a priest - he received Holy
Orders. He's still a man, and some men are bad, even if they received Holy
Orders.
(Okay,
there could be a scumbag or two out to squeeze some $ out of the church,
by trying to, uh, finger an innocent priest, but it would take more
than just one opportunistic creep to prove guilt.) Most of these queer
pseudo- priests have quite a track record, it turns out.
Which means that you have no idea who or how many have a problem.
Also, how many are guilty and managed to escape being exposed?
I suggest none. You may suggest more. Neither one of us can substantiate our
respective claim.
And it's likely that many of
those that are "guilty" were in a shared "homosexual" relationship with youth
equally questionable of their own sexuality.
This of course is no justification at all. Any such "priest" is no
priest.
No one said anything about justification. All humankind is a sinner, including
the Pope. Heb 4:15.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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29 Dec 2006 01:45:37 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 29 Dec 2006 07:52:44 -0800, wrote:
Delude themselves? How would you know? That's pure speculation on your part.
But a most reasonable bit of speculation, in my view.
See below.
Your biggest error is in your "rampant child molestation problem in the RCC"
statement. That is totally untrue. I'm no longer sure of the latest number,
but I think it's still about 1.5% of the American priesthood that has **been
accused**. Most of those went thru formation is the 50-70's. And many are not
guilty and never came close to being molesters.
How could a true priest be falsely accused of such a crime?
What do you mean by a true priest? A priest is a priest - he received Holy
Orders. He's still a man, and some men are bad, even if they received Holy
Orders.
Just like you.
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rfischer@sonic.net
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30 Dec 2006 07:48:40 AM |
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On 29 Dec 2006 19:45:37 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 29 Dec 2006 07:52:44 -0800, wrote:
Delude themselves? How would you know? That's pure speculation on your part.
But a most reasonable bit of speculation, in my view.
See below.
Your biggest error is in your "rampant child molestation problem in the RCC"
statement. That is totally untrue. I'm no longer sure of the latest number,
but I think it's still about 1.5% of the American priesthood that has **been
accused**. Most of those went thru formation is the 50-70's. And many are not
guilty and never came close to being molesters.
How could a true priest be falsely accused of such a crime?
What do you mean by a true priest? A priest is a priest - he received Holy
Orders. He's still a man, and some men are bad, even if they received Holy
Orders.
Just like you.
And you.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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30 Dec 2006 01:06:46 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 29 Dec 2006 19:45:37 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 29 Dec 2006 07:52:44 -0800, wrote:
Delude themselves? How would you know? That's pure speculation on your part.
But a most reasonable bit of speculation, in my view.
See below.
Your biggest error is in your "rampant child molestation problem in the RCC"
statement. That is totally untrue. I'm no longer sure of the latest number,
but I think it's still about 1.5% of the American priesthood that has **been
accused**. Most of those went thru formation is the 50-70's. And many are not
guilty and never came close to being molesters.
How could a true priest be falsely accused of such a crime?
What do you mean by a true priest? A priest is a priest - he received Holy
Orders. He's still a man, and some men are bad, even if they received Holy
Orders.
Just like you.
And you.
Unlike you, I don't claim to be morally superior to everybody else.
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Ray Fischer
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31 Dec 2006 08:07:59 AM |
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On 30 Dec 2006 19:06:46 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Your biggest error is in your "rampant child molestation problem in the RCC"
statement. That is totally untrue. I'm no longer sure of the latest number,
but I think it's still about 1.5% of the American priesthood that has **been
accused**. Most of those went thru formation is the 50-70's. And many are not
guilty and never came close to being molesters.
How could a true priest be falsely accused of such a crime?
What do you mean by a true priest? A priest is a priest - he received Holy
Orders. He's still a man, and some men are bad, even if they received Holy
Orders.
Just like you.
And you.
Unlike you, I don't claim to be morally superior to everybody else.
Where do I claim to be morally superior?
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: What % are "called to serve God?" |
31 Dec 2006 12:27:39 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 19:06:46 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Your biggest error is in your "rampant child molestation problem in the RCC"
statement. That is totally untrue. I'm no longer sure of the latest number,
but I think it's still about 1.5% of the American priesthood that has **been
accused**. Most of those went thru formation is the 50-70's. And many are not
guilty and never came close to being molesters.
How could a true priest be falsely accused of such a crime?
What do you mean by a true priest? A priest is a priest - he received Holy
Orders. He's still a man, and some men are bad, even if they received Holy
Orders.
Just like you.
And you.
Unlike you, I don't claim to be morally superior to everybody else.
Where do I claim to be morally superior?
Frequently. For example, your whines about sex, about homosexuality,
about abortion...
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Ray Fischer
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