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"angry pankration warrior" |
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06 Jan 2005 06:34:01 PM |
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What do you think? |
It is a scientific proven fact that prayer does chance circumstances.
A study was done where those with cancer and certain diseases were prayed
for and they made progress and those that weren't prayed for didn't make as
much.
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| User: "|-|erc" |
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| Title: Re: Does Prayer Work? (formerly What do you think?) |
29 Jan 2005 07:46:59 PM |
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Herc : deliver to us a decipherable message in this thread that he cares about our concerns
Phillistine : NO ONE GIVES A F*CK
Reply to post WHO CARES? : Good People
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So if you don't count that as a POSSIBLE prayer coming true,
then you have NO reasonable benchmark at all, and your claims that
there is no evidence is falsified since you cannot define evidence.
I was VERY specific, I said to deliver in this thread a VERY SPECIFIC MESSAGE.
If you deny that that message was decipherable as I asked you are BLIND.
The message I requested to be easily decipherable in this thread was
SHOW US THAT GOD CARES SOMEHOW
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Do you agree up to here? Can we get a consensus on this 1st so people stop
making stupid claims about prayer not having any evidence.
Herc
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| User: "yowie" |
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29 Jan 2005 11:26:13 PM |
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In <362snaF4ssb06U1@individual.net>
Posted to alt.flame.jesus.christ
|-|erc said...
Do you agree up to here? Can we get a consensus on this 1st so people stop
making stupid claims about prayer not having any evidence.
That would mean you leaving Usenet.
We can't have that.
*****.
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| User: "|-|erc" |
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30 Jan 2005 12:23:20 AM |
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"yowie" <bigglesworth@stickupthebumofgawd.buz> wrote
|-|erc said...
Do you agree up to here? Can we get a consensus on this 1st so people stop
You talk big then when it falls back in your face you have to snip and ad hom.
backpeddle away nazi!
Herc : GOD WILL SHOW HE CARES THIS DAY
Phillistine : NO ONE CARES A f*CK
GOOD PEOPLE : huh hmmm
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea. You are so gutless not to even
admit a pass fail criteria to prove prayer works.
WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH .. RUN AND HIDE LIKE THE ATHEIST SKEPTICS
Keeps you fit.
Herc
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| User: "Rob Duncan" |
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30 Jan 2005 01:16:26 AM |
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"|-|erc" <H@r.c> wrote in message news:363ctgF4qe7d1U1@individual.net...
"yowie" <bigglesworth@stickupthebumofgawd.buz> wrote
|-|erc said...
Do you agree up to here? Can we get a consensus on this 1st so people
stop
You talk big then when it falls back in your face you have to snip and ad
hom.
backpeddle away nazi!
Herc : GOD WILL SHOW HE CARES THIS DAY
Phillistine : NO ONE CARES A f*CK
GOOD PEOPLE : huh hmmm
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea. You are so gutless not
to even
admit a pass fail criteria to prove prayer works.
WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH .. RUN AND HIDE LIKE THE ATHEIST SKEPTICS
Keeps you fit.
Herc
And out of breath.
Rob
(btw, total non-sequiter, Herc, Ill bet youre a smoker arent you?)
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| User: "|-|erc" |
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30 Jan 2005 01:36:19 AM |
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"Rob Duncan" <robduncan@gbronline.com> wrote in
|-|erc said...
Do you agree up to here? Can we get a consensus on this 1st so people
stop
You talk big then when it falls back in your face you have to snip and ad
hom.
backpeddle away nazi!
Herc : GOD WILL SHOW HE CARES THIS DAY
Phillistine : NO ONE CARES A f*CK
GOOD PEOPLE : huh hmmm
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea. You are so gutless not
to even
admit a pass fail criteria to prove prayer works.
WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH .. RUN AND HIDE LIKE THE ATHEIST SKEPTICS
Keeps you fit.
Herc
And out of breath.
Rob
(btw, total non-sequiter, Herc, Ill bet youre a smoker arent you?)
*****.
What was the request of the prayer I put online in this thread, in your own words?
Herc
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| User: "Rob Duncan" |
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30 Jan 2005 07:58:03 PM |
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"|-|erc" <H@r.c> wrote in message news:363h6bF4t70vnU1@individual.net...
"Rob Duncan" <robduncan@gbronline.com> wrote in
|-|erc said...
Do you agree up to here? Can we get a consensus on this 1st so
people
stop
You talk big then when it falls back in your face you have to snip and
ad
hom.
backpeddle away nazi!
Herc : GOD WILL SHOW HE CARES THIS DAY
Phillistine : NO ONE CARES A f*CK
GOOD PEOPLE : huh hmmm
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea. You are so gutless
not
to even
admit a pass fail criteria to prove prayer works.
WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH .. RUN AND HIDE LIKE THE ATHEIST SKEPTICS
Keeps you fit.
Herc
And out of breath.
Rob
(btw, total non-sequiter, Herc, Ill bet youre a smoker arent you?)
*****.
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I was just taking a guess you were a smoker. Thats all. Chill my friend.
I was making no insinuations, if you thought I were.
What was the request of the prayer I put online in this thread, in your
own words?
Herc
You asked for a sign. And you know full well you got one. Lets leave it at
that.
Rob
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30 Jan 2005 09:02:33 PM |
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"Rob Duncan" <robduncan@gbronline.com> wrote in
Rob
(btw, total non-sequiter, Herc, Ill bet youre a smoker arent you?)
*****.
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I was just taking a guess you were a smoker. Thats all. Chill my friend.
I was making no insinuations, if you thought I were.
I was calling on the "non-sequitur". I smoked a bit at UNI, I've drunk less
than a carton of beer in my life, and smoked less than a carton of cigarettes in my life,
and less than a packet of cigarettes worth of pot. Smoking cigs is usually when
I'm incarcerated, 8 months total over 6 occasions, plus the month or so afterwards
until I stop. EVERYONE in prison smokes, like 590 prisoners out of 600, its
actually very nice smoking I might take it up after my stud duties are satisfied.
Since 2002 I don't even drink coffee. Not a trace of ANY drug no matter how
defined for 3 years. Not cough medicine, not coca cola, the ONLY thing that
comes close is the chicken salt and MSG, tried to go without but unsalted chips are terrible.
I don't add salt to meals or cooking myself!
Its the fact I HAVENT pickled my brain like 99% of usenet that gives me higher insight.
Believe commercial television, take 3 glasses of red with every meal, SURE ITS GOOD FOR YOU!
and 6 glasses a night is a raving alcoholic!
What was the request of the prayer I put online in this thread, in your
own words?
Herc
You asked for a sign. And you know full well you got one. Lets leave it at
that.
that wasn't the entire post, that was just the example for the point!
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no individual prayer working proves that prayer works, the
whole is greater than the sum of parts, if you call for evidence
then define some passing criteria!
I hereby pray to God that he deliver to us a decipherable message in this thread that he is indeed
listening and hears all of our concerns.
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If you can't figure out what the message was, then we are no closer to
having a passing criteria, and all these calls to evidence are a bluff!
Want to take a stab at the 'coincidental' message we received?
Herc
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| User: "yõwie" |
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| Title: Re: Does Prayer Work? (formerly What do you think?) |
31 Jan 2005 02:10:32 AM |
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In <365lh1F4str23U1@individual.net>
Posted to alt.flame.jesus.christ
|-|erc said...
Want to take a stab at the 'coincidental' message we received?
How old were you when your mother started on you?
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: Does Prayer Work? (formerly What do you think?) |
31 Jan 2005 06:53:32 AM |
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yõwie <asif@munky.com> astounded us with: news:MPG.1c685491269d956f9896e1
@munky.com:
In <365lh1F4str23U1@individual.net>
Posted to alt.flame.jesus.christ
|-|erc said...
Want to take a stab at the 'coincidental' message we received?
How old were you when your mother started on you?
Hey Yowie, this ***** is, embarrassingly, an Aussie, oh, the shame....
First, Dame Edna, then Paul Hogan, then Yahoo Serious, then Steve Irwin, and
now this *****...
--
Phÿltêr
AA#1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
Remove "s" to respond
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31 Jan 2005 03:23:41 PM |
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In <gTpLd.142943$K7.68088@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
Posted to alt.flame.jesus.christ
Phÿltêr said...
yõwie <asif@munky.com> astounded us with: news:MPG.1c685491269d956f9896e1
@munky.com:
In <365lh1F4str23U1@individual.net>
Posted to alt.flame.jesus.christ
|-|erc said...
Want to take a stab at the 'coincidental' message we received?
How old were you when your mother started on you?
Hey Yowie, this ***** is, embarrassingly, an Aussie, oh, the shame....
First, Dame Edna, then Paul Hogan, then Yahoo Serious, then Steve Irwin, and
now this *****...
Then there's hope he'll go OS and dissappear.
Yahoo fucking Serious.
BLEEERGH!
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| User: "yowie" |
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30 Jan 2005 02:29:49 PM |
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In <363h6bF4t70vnU1@individual.net>
Posted to alt.flame.jesus.christ
|-|erc said...
"Rob Duncan" <robduncan@gbronline.com> wrote in
|-|erc said...
Do you agree up to here? Can we get a consensus on this 1st so people
stop
You talk big then when it falls back in your face you have to snip and ad
hom.
backpeddle away nazi!
Herc : GOD WILL SHOW HE CARES THIS DAY
Phillistine : NO ONE CARES A f*CK
GOOD PEOPLE : huh hmmm
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea. You are so gutless not
to even
admit a pass fail criteria to prove prayer works.
WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH .. RUN AND HIDE LIKE THE ATHEIST SKEPTICS
Keeps you fit.
Herc
And out of breath.
Rob
(btw, total non-sequiter, Herc, Ill bet youre a smoker arent you?)
*****.
What was the request of the prayer I put online in this thread, in your own words?
That someone would pay you some attention. Hence the Boatyesque
kookisms.
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| User: "yowie" |
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30 Jan 2005 02:29:48 PM |
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In <363ctgF4qe7d1U1@individual.net>
Posted to alt.flame.jesus.christ
|-|erc said...
"yowie" <bigglesworth@stickupthebumofgawd.buz> wrote
|-|erc said...
Do you agree up to here? Can we get a consensus on this 1st so people stop
You talk big then when it falls back in your face you have to snip and ad hom.
backpeddle away nazi!
Herc : GOD WILL SHOW HE CARES THIS DAY
Phillistine : NO ONE CARES A f*CK
GOOD PEOPLE : huh hmmm
You forgot:
Indoropilly: Coomerabilla
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea. You are so gutless not to even
admit a pass fail criteria to prove prayer works.
The correct answer would have contained the word 'mother', so fail.
WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH .. RUN AND HIDE LIKE THE ATHEIST SKEPTICS
Keeps you fit.
You have the fungus in you.
Herc
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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30 Jan 2005 12:48:42 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, "|-|erc" <H@r.c> wrote:
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea.
Yeah? Which tea responded to the call?
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Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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30 Jan 2005 03:58:19 AM |
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(Bobby D. Bryant) astounded us with: news:cti009$is1
$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, "|-|erc" <H@r.c> wrote:
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea.
Yeah? Which tea responded to the call?
Well, it's Earl Grey or English Breakfast for me....
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Phÿltêr
AA#1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
Remove "s" to respond
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| User: "yowie" |
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30 Jan 2005 02:29:51 PM |
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In <cti009$is1$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Posted to alt.flame.jesus.christ
Bobby D. Bryant said...
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, "|-|erc" <H@r.c> wrote:
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea.
Yeah? Which tea responded to the call?
Legally, he'd have to call it an 'infusion' - and it would still be
illegal.
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30 Jan 2005 06:17:57 PM |
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|-|erc wrote:
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea.
Yeah? Which one, black or green?
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Come down off the cross
We can use the wood
Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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31 Jan 2005 06:56:04 AM |
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Charles & Mambo <Duckman@gfy.self> astounded us with: news:41FD7935.3030009
@gfy.self:
|-|erc wrote:
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea.
Yeah? Which one, black or green?
Green tea sucks......but then again, so does Herc, he learneded it in the big
house
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Phÿltêr
AA#1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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31 Jan 2005 06:59:58 AM |
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"Phÿltêr" <phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote in message
news:EVpLd.142945$K7.71997@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Charles & Mambo <Duckman@gfy.self> astounded us with:
news:41FD7935.3030009
@gfy.self:
|-|erc wrote:
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea.
Yeah? Which one, black or green?
Green tea sucks......but then again, so does Herc, he learneded it in the
big
house
I prefer a nice cup of Earl Grey myself ;)
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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31 Jan 2005 07:09:25 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> astounded us with:
news:366oebF4sgurhU1@individual.net:
"Phÿltêr" <phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote in message
news:EVpLd.142945$K7.71997@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Charles & Mambo <Duckman@gfy.self> astounded us with:
news:41FD7935.3030009
@gfy.self:
|-|erc wrote:
Its clear as day my call of faith worked to a tea.
Yeah? Which one, black or green?
Green tea sucks......but then again, so does Herc, he learneded it in
the
big
house
I prefer a nice cup of Earl Grey myself ;)
See an earlier post of mine m'deah....
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Phÿltêr
AA#1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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28 Jan 2005 11:14:25 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, "|-|erc" <H@r.c> wrote:
DO YOU SEE A *POSSIBLE* MESSAGE FROM GOD IN THIS THREAD?
Yeah, she's telling you t get a clue and then get a life.
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Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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| User: "|-|erc" |
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28 Jan 2005 11:49:47 PM |
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"Bobby D. Bryant" <bdbryant@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, "|-|erc" <H@r.c> wrote:
DO YOU SEE A *POSSIBLE* MESSAGE FROM GOD IN THIS THREAD?
Yeah, she's telling you t get a clue and then get a life.
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
OK that's good, considering the hard skeptic audience, no surprise that
the term 'false positive' or circumstantial or coincidence is beyond you all.
just keep up your charades... GIVE ME EVIDENCE ! then follup up acting stupid
We'll skip the consensus of the terms and evaluation, and in true net skeptic style
go straight to the psychic bashing. Over to you mass of blind morons!
Herc
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29 Jan 2005 03:17:09 PM |
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"|-|erc" <H@r.c> wrote in message news:360milF4qta61U1@individual.net...
"Bobby D. Bryant" <bdbryant@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, "|-|erc" <H@r.c> wrote:
DO YOU SEE A *POSSIBLE* MESSAGE FROM GOD IN THIS THREAD?
Yeah, she's telling you t get a clue and then get a life.
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Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
OK that's good, considering the hard skeptic audience, no surprise that
the term 'false positive' or circumstantial or coincidence is beyond you
all.
just keep up your charades... GIVE ME EVIDENCE ! then follup up acting
stupid
We'll skip the consensus of the terms and evaluation, and in true net
skeptic style
go straight to the psychic bashing. Over to you mass of blind morons!
Herc
JHerc, since you ask so prettily, am happy to oblige thus: THERE IS NO
HIDDEN MESSAGE FROM GOD IN THIS THREAD. Just you, fuckchop, cutting and
pasting words from texts, to create psychobabble that it pleases you to
insist proves your sky fairy is bending its' eye upon this group, which you
then "interpret" according to your own agenda, and THEN "go straight to the
psychic bashing" because you get no love or credibility here! JHerc, there
is no god, prayer is arrogant ***** which DOES NOT WORK, and you are a
fatuous, yammering, mentally crippled, brain-dead *****, like all the rest of
your xtian pals. Stop making it up as you go along and present proof of your
claims, or shut the ***** up and stop bothering your betters.
Better yet, just *****.
--
Mothergodwacker
CEO "Noah's Odor of Sanctity Kitty Litter"
100% recycled gideon bibles
"Absorbs up to 40 days & nights--No change required!"
http://forums.clickhalah.com/index.php
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29 Jan 2005 06:27:39 PM |
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MGW, Dr. Chris Assaf once prayed for his chest pains to go a=ADway, and
they did. After he fainted, that is.
Also, he prayed that he could be able to do military push-up=ADs. He was
starting to get them soon thereafter.=20
So.....
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30 Jan 2005 06:21:01 PM |
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"Good people of YCDTOTV" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1107044859.643780.240500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
MGW, Dr. Chris Assaf once prayed for his chest pains to go away, and
they did. After he fainted, that is.
Also, he prayed that he could be able to do military push-ups. He was
starting to get them soon thereafter.
So.....
So fucking what?
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Mothergodwacker
CEO "Noah's Odor of Sanctity Kitty Litter"
100% recycled gideon bibles
"Absorbs up to 40 days & nights--No change required!"
http://forums.clickhalah.com/index.php
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30 Jan 2005 06:33:05 PM |
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So, Prayer worked for HIM! The preacher said that his prayers were
answered. There is no other explanation as to how he could have done
those military push-ups, MGW
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03 Feb 2005 07:37:22 PM |
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"Good people of YCDTOTV" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> flabbergasted all the
world with the following
news:1107131585.936318.23460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
So, Prayer worked for HIM! The preacher said that his prayers were
answered. There is no other explanation as to how he could have done
those military push-ups, MGW
Chris, whatever meds you're on have destroyed the 2 or 3 brain cells you
were born with. Or is it that your corpse is rotting as you continue to
type from beyond the grave?
--
Mothergodwacker
CEO "Noah's Odor of Sanctity Kitty Litter"
100% recycled gideon bibles
"Absorbs up to 40 days & nights--No change required!"
http://forums.clickhalah.com/index.php
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30 Jan 2005 07:30:06 PM |
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"Good people of YCDTOTV" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1107131585.936318.23460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
So, Prayer worked for HIM! The preacher said that his prayers were
answered. There is no other explanation as to how he could have done
those military push-ups, MGW
Your opinion. Please prove this story is true.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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30 Jan 2005 04:27:14 PM |
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"Good people of YCDTOTV" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1107044859.643780.240500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
MGW, Dr. Chris Assaf once prayed for his chest pains to go away, and
they did. After he fainted, that is.
Also, he prayed that he could be able to do military push-ups. He was
starting to get them soon thereafter.
So..... I'm a big fat liar and an escaped mental patient.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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30 Jan 2005 04:59:49 PM |
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Actually, that proves that prayer works.
God helped him to do military push-ups and took his chest pains away.
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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31 Jan 2005 07:02:15 AM |
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"Good people of YCDTOTV" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> astounded us with:
news:1107125989.913784.294870@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Actually, that proves that prayer works.
God helped him to do military push-ups and took his chest pains away.
What I'm dying to hear is, who in the military is he "pushing up"....
You claim to be at West Point, it must be you!
--
Phÿltêr
AA#1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
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