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"Xomicron" |
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31 Mar 2004 09:01:27 PM |
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What is a liberal? |
What is a liberal?
A liberal is a person who sees a fourteen-year-old girl performing live sex
acts onstage and wonders if she's being paid the minimum wage.
- Unknown
A liberal is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air.
- Adlai Stevenson
A liberal is a person whose interests aren't at stake at the moment.
- Willis Player
A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel.
- Robert Frost
A liberal is a man who is willing to spend somebody else's money.
- Carter Glass
A liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet.
- Frank Rizzo
What the liberal really wants is to bring about change which will not
in any way endanger his position.
- Stokely Carmichael
The liberal...is better at inventing reforms than in insuring that
they are well and honestly administered.
- John Kenneth Galbraith
The liberal is accustomed to appearing radical to conservatives,
counter-revolutionary to radicals, and as a fink to activists of all
persuasions.
- Harry S. Ashmore
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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07 Apr 2004 11:45:52 AM |
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"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
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<snip>
This period will be dotted with dark passages like that when history
records
the attempts the Bush regime has made to subvert every ideal america has
strived for for the last 225+ years.
I hope so, but remember, the winners write the history books.
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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04 Apr 2004 05:44:06 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<fL-dnYH45KWGafLdRVn-uQ@comcast.com>...
"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote
Did you miss the big retraction that CNN had to put
on the air because they found out they got their facts
all wrong??
Never happened.
Maybe your thnking of the Letterman/White House
episode that happened around the same time.
That was sick. First they quoted "the Whitehouse" and
said that the video was digitally altered and that the boy
was never there. Then they quoted the "Whitehouse" and
said that the boy was there, at the event, but not where he
was shown in the video.
Both where lies, and neither was retracted as far as I know.
Doesn't exactly leave you with a warm feeling...
CNN is bad news. Don't believe them.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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05 Apr 2004 03:49:25 AM |
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"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote
CNN is bad news. Don't believe them.
I agree. But, most American "News" is just as bad, and
Fox is much, much (much, much, much, much) worse.
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| User: "Xomicron" |
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05 Apr 2004 12:55:06 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:G-6dnTr1A6QNgezdRVn-tw@comcast.com:
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote
CNN is bad news. Don't believe them.
I agree. But, most American "News" is just as bad, and
Fox is much, much (much, much, much, much) worse.
Based on what?
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| User: "JTEM" |
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06 Apr 2004 01:28:37 PM |
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote
I agree. But, most American "News" is just as bad, and
Fox is much, much (much, much, much, much) worse.
Based on what?
Bases on the fact that it would take a Bush brown-noser
posting from a German news server, and using a Polish
e-mail address, to defend their worthless propaganda.
No normal person would even try.
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| User: "SMChristenson" |
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05 Apr 2004 09:34:18 PM |
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 17:55:06 +0000, Xomicron wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:G-6dnTr1A6QNgezdRVn-tw@comcast.com:
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote
CNN is bad news. Don't believe them.
I agree. But, most American "News" is just as bad, and Fox is much,
much (much, much, much, much) worse.
Based on what?
Based on the study that came out last year that found that FOX viewers
were dumber than people who didn't watch any TV news at all because what
they learned from FOX was simply _wrong_?
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/000714.html
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| User: "David Galehouse" |
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05 Apr 2004 09:21:11 PM |
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"SMChristenson" <smchris@visi.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.04.06.02.34.15.557698@visi.com...
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 17:55:06 +0000, Xomicron wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:G-6dnTr1A6QNgezdRVn-tw@comcast.com:
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote
CNN is bad news. Don't believe them.
I agree. But, most American "News" is just as bad, and Fox is much,
much (much, much, much, much) worse.
Based on what?
Based on the study that came out last year that found that FOX viewers
were dumber than people who didn't watch any TV news at all because what
they learned from FOX was simply _wrong_?
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/000714.html
I wonder if they tried to determine if people who watched Fox news were
dumber to begin with or if they became dumber with repeated viewings? Kind
of like the classic chicken VS. egg question.
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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06 Apr 2004 05:28:41 PM |
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"David Galehouse" <AndyG@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message news:<ruocc.2199$Qv6.423@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...
"SMChristenson" <smchris@visi.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.04.06.02.34.15.557698@visi.com...
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 17:55:06 +0000, Xomicron wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:G-6dnTr1A6QNgezdRVn-tw@comcast.com:
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote
CNN is bad news. Don't believe them.
I agree. But, most American "News" is just as bad, and Fox is much,
much (much, much, much, much) worse.
Based on what?
Based on the study that came out last year that found that FOX viewers
were dumber than people who didn't watch any TV news at all because what
they learned from FOX was simply _wrong_?
It must be very successful but yet stupid people judging by all the
good money being paid to fox for investment commercials. Actually, I
didn't know that stupid people had any money to invest. I think your
"study" is a bit flawed.
People with a brain who can think realize that Fox is no better or
worse than CNN, just different. People with maturity and wisdom in
addition to a brain know that you should listen to both channels to
get a closer idea of the truth in the world.
I guess you strike out on both counts.
I wonder if they tried to determine if people who watched Fox news were
dumber to begin with or if they became dumber with repeated viewings? Kind
of like the classic chicken VS. egg question.
Gosh, with raw bigotry like that against people who simply watch a
particular news channel I'm afraid to ask how outrageous your bigotry
is against black people. Are you by chance a closet member of the
KKK?
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| User: "David Galehouse" |
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| Title: Re: $900 Billion |
06 Apr 2004 06:41:48 PM |
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"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a258afb5.0404061428.2506d499@posting.google.com...
"David Galehouse" <AndyG@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<ruocc.2199$Qv6.423@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...
"SMChristenson" <smchris@visi.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.04.06.02.34.15.557698@visi.com...
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 17:55:06 +0000, Xomicron wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:G-6dnTr1A6QNgezdRVn-tw@comcast.com:
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote
CNN is bad news. Don't believe them.
I agree. But, most American "News" is just as bad, and Fox is much,
much (much, much, much, much) worse.
Based on what?
Based on the study that came out last year that found that FOX viewers
were dumber than people who didn't watch any TV news at all because
what
they learned from FOX was simply _wrong_?
It must be very successful but yet stupid people judging by all the
good money being paid to fox for investment commercials. Actually, I
didn't know that stupid people had any money to invest. I think your
"study" is a bit flawed.
People with a brain who can think realize that Fox is no better or
worse than CNN, just different. People with maturity and wisdom in
addition to a brain know that you should listen to both channels to
get a closer idea of the truth in the world.
I guess you strike out on both counts.
I wonder if they tried to determine if people who watched Fox news were
dumber to begin with or if they became dumber with repeated viewings?
Kind
of like the classic chicken VS. egg question.
Gosh, with raw bigotry like that against people who simply watch a
particular news channel I'm afraid to ask how outrageous your bigotry
is against black people. Are you by chance a closet member of the
KKK?
LOL! Nice straw man there, Fox. Totally meaningless and not worthy of an
attempt at mounting a defense against it. Besides, you're obviously too
stupid to reason with anyway. To steal and paraphrase someone's recent line
(Franken?) I didn't know you neocons had a race card to play.
So, how long have you been a Fox viewer?
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| User: "Xomicron" |
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05 Apr 2004 12:58:24 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:c4ircf$jpi$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
FACT: John Kerry is running around the country trying to buy votes by
making wild promises for new government services and handouts that
will cost 900 billion dollars.
An outright lie.
You are right. Kerry is a liar, but that doesn't stop people like you from
believing him.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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05 Apr 2004 01:11:11 PM |
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Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:c4ircf$jpi$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
FACT: John Kerry is running around the country trying to buy votes by
making wild promises for new government services and handouts that
will cost 900 billion dollars.
An outright lie.
You are right.
Of course I am. You 'cons are liars. You are so immoral and corrupt
that you CANNOT tell the truth without having people turn away in
disgust.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Xomicron" |
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05 Apr 2004 02:05:26 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:c4s7fv$g15$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
You are right. Kerry is a liar, but that doesn't stop people like you
from believing him.
Of course I am.
Thank's for admitting it.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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05 Apr 2004 05:12:51 PM |
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Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:c4s7fv$g15$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
You are right. Kerry is a liar, but that doesn't stop people like you
from believing him.
Of course I am.
Thank's for admitting it.
Resorting to outright forgery now? As I wrote - you have to lie.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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03 Apr 2004 11:25:37 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c4ircf$jpi$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Bush 2004" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<o9ednQP8NPb1OfbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>...
BUSH FICTION: From the New Bush Attack Ad: "A
president sets his agenda for America in the first 100
days. John Kerry's plan: To pay for new government
spending, raise taxes by at least $900 billion."
FACT: John Kerry will cut, not increase, taxes on
middle class families. The $900 billion ad is false.
The Bush Cheney Campaign uses weapons of deception
and distortion because they can't have an honest
debate about jobs and taxes. Bush's ad takes Kerry's
statement out of context. John Kerry said: "In my first
hundred days in the White House, I will roll back
George Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest so that we can
invest in education and health care."
FACT: John Kerry is running around the country trying to buy votes by
making wild promises for new government services and handouts that
will cost 900 billion dollars.
An outright lie.
Outright lie?? I saw John Kerry on CNN with his own lips moving when
he made those promises for all those new give away programs and
government spending. Are you saying that CNN lied or that John Kerry
lied??
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| User: "Biff" |
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03 Apr 2004 11:32:01 AM |
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Get over it :-) it's always been clear to anyone who has a brain, listens
and reads (not Bush of course) that the richest rich would get a tax
increase (like how Clinton got us to a balanced budget) and the middle and
poor classes would actually get tax CUTS.
But you ignorant and/or deceitful Cons already knew these facts, didn't you?
;-))))
Biff
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a258afb5.0404030925.662c43a6@posting.google.com...
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c4ircf$jpi$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Bush 2004" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<o9ednQP8NPb1OfbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>...
BUSH FICTION: From the New Bush Attack Ad: "A
president sets his agenda for America in the first 100
days. John Kerry's plan: To pay for new government
spending, raise taxes by at least $900 billion."
FACT: John Kerry will cut, not increase, taxes on
middle class families. The $900 billion ad is false.
The Bush Cheney Campaign uses weapons of deception
and distortion because they can't have an honest
debate about jobs and taxes. Bush's ad takes Kerry's
statement out of context. John Kerry said: "In my first
hundred days in the White House, I will roll back
George Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest so that we can
invest in education and health care."
FACT: John Kerry is running around the country trying to buy votes by
making wild promises for new government services and handouts that
will cost 900 billion dollars.
An outright lie.
Outright lie?? I saw John Kerry on CNN with his own lips moving when
he made those promises for all those new give away programs and
government spending. Are you saying that CNN lied or that John Kerry
lied??
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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04 Apr 2004 05:41:58 PM |
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"Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote...
Get over it :-)
Not till everyone agrees with me!!
it's always been clear to anyone who has a brain, listens
and reads (not Bush of course) that the richest rich would get a tax
increase (like how Clinton got us to a balanced budget) and the middle and
poor classes would actually get tax CUTS.
John Kerry has proposed no tax cuts for the middle class, only
corporate tax cuts lately to benefit his wife's corporation which they
receive 20 million a year in income. Oh and by the way, the Heinz
corporation has %75 of its manufacturing plants over seas. So much
for keeping jobs in America. LOL!!!
But you ignorant and/or deceitful Cons already knew these facts, didn't you?
;-))))
I don't know anything about cons or pros. I'm an honest and true blue
democrat who is tired of John Kerry trying to raise my taxes.
Biff
Voting for JOHN KERRY is a very very BAD IDEA!!!
Start looking now for your second job at night. You'll need it to pay
John Kerry's extra taxes!!!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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03 Apr 2004 04:25:26 PM |
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Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c4ircf$jpi$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Bush 2004" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<o9ednQP8NPb1OfbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>...
BUSH FICTION: From the New Bush Attack Ad: "A
president sets his agenda for America in the first 100
days. John Kerry's plan: To pay for new government
spending, raise taxes by at least $900 billion."
FACT: John Kerry will cut, not increase, taxes on
middle class families. The $900 billion ad is false.
The Bush Cheney Campaign uses weapons of deception
and distortion because they can't have an honest
debate about jobs and taxes. Bush's ad takes Kerry's
statement out of context. John Kerry said: "In my first
hundred days in the White House, I will roll back
George Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest so that we can
invest in education and health care."
FACT: John Kerry is running around the country trying to buy votes by
making wild promises for new government services and handouts that
will cost 900 billion dollars.
An outright lie.
Outright lie??
Yes.
I saw John Kerry on CNN with his own lips moving when
he made those promises for all those new give away programs and
government spending.
So, no mention of "900 billion dollars".
How about that. More lies and distortions.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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03 Apr 2004 10:07:16 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c4ircf$jpi$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Bush 2004" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<o9ednQP8NPb1OfbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>...
BUSH FICTION: From the New Bush Attack Ad: "A
president sets his agenda for America in the first 100
days. John Kerry's plan: To pay for new government
spending, raise taxes by at least $900 billion."
FACT: John Kerry will cut, not increase, taxes on
middle class families. The $900 billion ad is false.
The Bush Cheney Campaign uses weapons of deception
and distortion because they can't have an honest
debate about jobs and taxes. Bush's ad takes Kerry's
statement out of context. John Kerry said: "In my first
hundred days in the White House, I will roll back
George Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest so that we can
invest in education and health care."
FACT: John Kerry is running around the country trying to buy votes by
making wild promises for new government services and handouts that
will cost 900 billion dollars.
An outright lie.
Outright lie?? I saw John Kerry on CNN with his own lips moving when
he made those promises for all those new give away programs and
government spending. Are you saying that CNN lied or that John Kerry
lied??
The $900 billion lie tossed around by neocon liars is a lie.
CNN Debunked that lie. The Bush/Cheney lie machine is using the usual far
right lie abnd scare tactics.
It is a lie.
Now, let us look up tghe latest repprt on Bush's policies at wwww.cbo.gov,
the Congressional Budhget Office website.
Bush's insane policies are 60% directly responsible for that $500 billion
deficit, and his 'plans' will create massive deficits while guaranteeing
massive tax giveaways for the rich.
You will get a massive tax raise to pay these off, but it buys nothing.
Bush's 'plan' will in one decade, have interest on the national debt
costing us as much as all discretionary spending for domestic and defense
put togther.
It buys us nothing.
Amazing how Bush/Cheney lie about Kerry's health plan costs while ignoring
current warnings that Bush will bury us in unimaginable massive deficts.
Not that you care.
Kerry's plan, over ten years, would only add $200 billion to Bush's
current plan, which Bush lied about anyway. His Medicare plan costs not
$399 billion but $530 billions.
Kerry can pay for it by cutting back on massive tax cuts to the rich,
massive socialsim for big businessfavors, actually getting the IRS back on
track catching tax cheats, and cutting tax loopholes the rich and business
use to avoid paying taxes.
Read www.cbo.gov. Stop the insanity, punish the lying by Bush and Cheney.
Vote for Kerry and sanity and an America with a future.
Anything else is right winged incompetence.
--
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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01 Apr 2004 06:40:52 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
"Bush 2004" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<o9ednQP8NPb1OfbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>...
BUSH FICTION: From the New Bush Attack Ad: "A
president sets his agenda for America in the first 100
days. John Kerry's plan: To pay for new government
spending, raise taxes by at least $900 billion."
FACT: John Kerry will cut, not increase, taxes on
middle class families. The $900 billion ad is false.
The Bush Cheney Campaign uses weapons of deception
and distortion because they can't have an honest
debate about jobs and taxes. Bush's ad takes Kerry's
statement out of context. John Kerry said: "In my first
hundred days in the White House, I will roll back
George Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest so that we can
invest in education and health care."
FACT: John Kerry is running around the country trying to buy votes by
making wild promises for new government services and handouts that
will cost 900 billion dollars.
Bush tells you he will give yopu big tax cuts.
But note www.cbo.gov. Bush's 'tax cuts' cause massive deficits, 60% of
today's $500 billion deficits are from Bush's plan.
Its no tax cut, its a future tax raise.
Get lied to now, pay big tomorrow.
Since 2000 Bush has added $2 trillion edicits to the $5 trillion he started
with.
He will double that in ten years.
Www.cbo.gov
$14 trillion debt, 300 million Americans. You do the math.
Bush is screwing you right now.
And you LOVE it!
--
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Lord Gow, rogue bull of the 333!" |
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31 Mar 2004 11:39:30 PM |
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Bush 2004 wrote:
BUSH FICTION: From the New Bush Attack Ad: "A
president sets his agenda for America in the first 100
days. John Kerry's plan: To pay for new government
spending, raise taxes by at least $900 billion."
FACT: John Kerry will cut, not increase, taxes on
middle class families.
I'm just gonna go ahead an take a Missouri Clause on this.
LG (can't recall a democrat ever, EEEEVER, cutting taxes. not many
republicans either)
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Quarterfinalist - 2003 Aero-Saxist KORSPW
Runner up - 2003 Most Improved Poster
Member, surviving team - 2003 RSPW Survivor Series
All hail Queen Molly, The First Lady of Wrestling!
Vince gave me B.O.K.A.W.!
"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken
seriously." - H. H. Humphrey (the real Triple H)
http://members.hostedscripts.com/antispam.html
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| User: "Roger Andrews" |
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02 Apr 2004 11:52:31 AM |
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Cool quote wars. My turn.
"...the differences between the conservative and the radical seem to
spring mainly from their attitude toward the future. Fear of the
future causes us to lean against and cling to the present, while faith
in the future renders us receptive to change. "
- Eric Hoffer
"When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong you
cannot be too conservative. "
- Martin Luther King
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises
in moral philosophy: that is the search for a superior moral
justification for selfishness."
— John Kenneth Galbraith
economist and author
"All conservatives are such from personal defects. They have been
effeminated by position or nature, born halt and blind, through luxury
of their parents, and can only, like invalids, act on the defensive."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence; Conservatism
is distrust of the people tempered by fear."
-William E. Gladstone
"A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they're
dead."
-Leo C. Rosten
Roger
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| User: "Bill Cleere" |
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02 Apr 2004 01:36:16 PM |
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"Roger Andrews" <crazybeast@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:cda5d73a.0404020952.3ccfce3a@posting.google.com...
Cool quote wars. My turn.
"...the differences between the conservative and the radical seem to
spring mainly from their attitude toward the future. Fear of the
future causes us to lean against and cling to the present, while faith
in the future renders us receptive to change. "
- Eric Hoffer
"When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong you
cannot be too conservative. "
- Martin Luther King
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises
in moral philosophy: that is the search for a superior moral
justification for selfishness."
- John Kenneth Galbraith
economist and author
"All conservatives are such from personal defects. They have been
effeminated by position or nature, born halt and blind, through luxury
of their parents, and can only, like invalids, act on the defensive."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence; Conservatism
is distrust of the people tempered by fear."
-William E. Gladstone
"A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they're
dead."
-Leo C. Rosten
Roger
Game over. You're the winner.
-- Bill Cleere
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| User: "Auric D. Hellman" |
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02 Apr 2004 09:57:35 PM |
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(Roger Andrews) wrote in message news:<cda5d73a.0404020952.3ccfce3a@posting.google.com>...
Cool quote wars. My turn.
"...the differences between the conservative and the radical seem to
spring mainly from their attitude toward the future. Fear of the
future causes us to lean against and cling to the present, while faith
in the future renders us receptive to change. "
- Eric Hoffer
"When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong you
cannot be too conservative. "
- Martin Luther King
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises
in moral philosophy: that is the search for a superior moral
justification for selfishness."
? John Kenneth Galbraith
economist and author
"All conservatives are such from personal defects. They have been
effeminated by position or nature, born halt and blind, through luxury
of their parents, and can only, like invalids, act on the defensive."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence; Conservatism
is distrust of the people tempered by fear."
-William E. Gladstone
"A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they're
dead."
-Leo C. Rosten
Roger
"A conservative is but a liberal who's been mugged"
-I'm not sure
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| User: "MarkA" |
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01 Apr 2004 09:32:54 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 03:01:27 +0000, Xomicron wrote:
Winston Churchill:
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man
who is over 30, and is not a conversative, has no brains.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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31 Mar 2004 11:10:41 PM |
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Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
What is a liberal?
Jesus was a liberal.
Hitler wasn't.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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01 Apr 2004 08:06:37 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c4g88g$k0a$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
What is a liberal?
Jesus was a liberal.
Hitler wasn't.
Hey, Ray, you got one right. God giveth to all men liberally.
Robert B. winn
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Apr 2004 10:48:35 PM |
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Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c4g88g$k0a$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
What is a liberal?
Jesus was a liberal.
Hitler wasn't.
Hey, Ray, you got one right. God giveth to all men liberally.
And you're not a Christian.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "TerryG" |
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02 Apr 2004 10:56:38 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c4g88g$k0a$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
What is a liberal?
Jesus was a liberal.
Hitler wasn't.
Oh really!! And which of the following traits(which you deleted once
and will have to delete again) did Jesus exhibit?
A liberal is a person who sees a fourteen-year-old girl performing
live sex
acts onstage and wonders if she's being paid the minimum wage.
- Unknown
A liberal is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air.
- Adlai Stevenson
A liberal is a person whose interests aren't at stake at the moment.
- Willis Player
A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel.
- Robert Frost
A liberal is a man who is willing to spend somebody else's money.
- Carter Glass
A liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet.
- Frank Rizzo
What the liberal really wants is to bring about change which will not
in any way endanger his position.
- Stokely Carmichael
The liberal...is better at inventing reforms than in insuring that
they are well and honestly administered.
- John Kenneth Galbraith
The liberal is accustomed to appearing radical to conservatives,
counter-revolutionary to radicals, and as a fink to activists of all
persuasions.
- Harry S. Ashmore
As for you, I see you in all of the above.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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02 Apr 2004 09:26:21 PM |
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TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c4g88g$k0a$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
What is a liberal?
Jesus was a liberal.
Hitler wasn't.
Oh really!! And which of the following traits(which you deleted once
and will have to delete again) did Jesus exhibit?
A liberal is a person who sees a fourteen-year-old girl performing
He certainly did not preach the hatred you spew at every opportunity.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "TerryG" |
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04 Apr 2004 06:30:44 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c4last$9sr$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c4g88g$k0a$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
What is a liberal?
Jesus was a liberal.
Hitler wasn't.
Oh really!! And which of the following traits(which you deleted once
and will have to delete again) did Jesus exhibit?
A liberal is a person who sees a fourteen-year-old girl performing
He certainly did not preach the hatred you spew at every opportunity.
You forgot to answer the question. Which of the following traits did Jesus exhibit?
A liberal is a person who sees a fourteen-year-old girl performing
live sex
acts onstage and wonders if she's being paid the minimum wage.
- Unknown
A liberal is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air.
- Adlai Stevenson
A liberal is a person whose interests aren't at stake at the moment.
- Willis Player
A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel.
- Robert Frost
A liberal is a man who is willing to spend somebody else's money.
- Carter Glass
A liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet.
- Frank Rizzo
What the liberal really wants is to bring about change which will not
in any way endanger his position.
- Stokely Carmichael
The liberal...is better at inventing reforms than in insuring that
they are well and honestly administered.
- John Kenneth Galbraith
The liberal is accustomed to appearing radical to conservatives,
counter-revolutionary to radicals, and as a fink to activists of all
persuasions.
- Harry S. Ashmore
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