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"Therion Ware" |
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29 Oct 2004 06:19:34 AM |
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What is a "meaning of life"? |
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: What is a "meaning of life"? |
29 Oct 2004 10:08:20 PM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com...
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
I am so glad you asked. "The meaning of Life"... hmm, let's see. Hmm. Right
now, I can't think of an answer. I'll think about it and get back to you.
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Freedom of thought entails no "Intellectual Property".
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| User: "Ike" |
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03 Nov 2004 07:59:12 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com...
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
I just figured out the meaning of life. Unfortunately the subject is too
complex to discuss.
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Freedom of thought entails no "Intellectual Property".
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: What is a "meaning of life"? |
03 Nov 2004 08:35:55 AM |
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:59:12 GMT in alt.atheism, Ike ("Ike"
<accordiondoc@mindspring.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com...
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
I just figured out the meaning of life. Unfortunately the subject is too
complex to discuss.
Yes. I know that.
And now you're in. The black helicopters will be picking you up
anytime now.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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| User: "billu" |
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| Title: Re: What is a "meaning of life"? |
29 Oct 2004 09:17:17 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com...
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being
read.
** atheist poster child #1 ** #442.
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| User: "Tock" |
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29 Oct 2004 10:27:35 AM |
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47.
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| User: "JessHC" |
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03 Nov 2004 05:10:29 PM |
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"Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<Hjtgd.2336$fC4.393@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>...
47.
Heathen. The correct answer is 42.
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| User: "Andrew W \Paranormal Agnostic" |
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04 Nov 2004 02:14:09 AM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0411031510.48e664ac@posting.google.com...
"Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:<Hjtgd.2336$fC4.393@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>...
47.
Heathen. The correct answer is 42.
That's what I thought it was.
Maybe he and the other poster were taking into account inflation.
--
Andrew W. (Paranormal Agnostic) An interest in the paranormal (spiritual)
but with acknowledgement that it's existence can neither be proved nor
disproved (agnostic).
"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has
been for us." ~ Pope Leo X (1513-1521)
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "Ray Richards" |
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29 Oct 2004 09:05:23 AM |
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God already answered this question... read the FAQ dummy!
www.GodAlrighty.com/faq.htm
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com...
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being
read.
** atheist poster child #1 ** #442.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: What is a "meaning of life"? |
04 Nov 2004 10:05:03 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:05:23 -0400, "Ray Richards"
<ray.richards@goodcontacts.com> wrote:
God already answered this question... read the FAQ dummy!
www.GodAlrighty.com/faq.htm
"God" neither answers a damn thing or 'alrighty,' top-posting moron.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "johac" |
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30 Oct 2004 02:56:51 AM |
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In article <1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com>,
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
I don't know about purpose, but I have goals within my life. Some are
short term. what I will do tomorrow, some re intermediate, what I will
do in the next week month or year, and some are longer term, what I want
to do in the next five or tens years.
I don't know that my life has any more overall 'purpose' than any of the
countless other living organisms on this planet.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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29 Oct 2004 05:58:27 PM |
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In our last episode <1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com>, Therion
Ware lept out of the bushes shouting:
What is a "meaning of life"?
What do you *mean by that?
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
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| User: "Andrew W \Paranormal Agnostic" |
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29 Oct 2004 06:55:20 PM |
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Life is a test to see if humans will allow themselves to be led around by
their noses. It's a test of character.
Christians and Moslems etc. have already failed the test.
Adam and Eve however passed the test and God got so angry that he threw them
out of the garden.
--
Andrew W.
How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has
been for us. ~ Pope Leo X (1513-1521)
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com...
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being
read.
** atheist poster child #1 ** #442.
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Nov 2004 10:07:57 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:55:20 +1000, "Andrew W \(Paranormal Agnostic\)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Life is a test to see if humans will allow themselves to be led around by
their noses. It's a test of character.
Christians and Moslems etc. have already failed the test.
Adam and Eve however passed the test and God got so angry that he threw them
out of the garden.
As was scripted.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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03 Nov 2004 12:11:11 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:19:34 -0600, Therion Ware wrote
(in article <1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com>):
snip all
Why are you inviting morons from the moron groups to invade us even more here
in alt.atheism? Don't we get enough ***** from them as it is?
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Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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03 Nov 2004 02:27:22 PM |
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:11:11 -0600 in alt.atheism, Harry F. Leopold
(Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:19:34 -0600, Therion Ware wrote
(in article <1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com>):
snip all
Why are you inviting morons from the moron groups to invade us even more here
in alt.atheism? Don't we get enough ***** from them as it is?
Not from the ones who are actually capable of thinking, IMO. Which is
by definition we only see the loons.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Nov 2004 10:09:00 AM |
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:27:22 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:11:11 -0600 in alt.atheism, Harry F. Leopold
(Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:19:34 -0600, Therion Ware wrote
(in article <1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com>):
snip all
Why are you inviting morons from the moron groups to invade us even more here
in alt.atheism? Don't we get enough ***** from them as it is?
Not from the ones who are actually capable of thinking, IMO. Which is
by definition we only see the loons.
Generally, its the loony-tunes of the moron groups that reply.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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29 Oct 2004 11:02:56 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:19:34 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus QED
(Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if not wrong,
is at least, a bit of a dead end.
It has always been a bit of a mystery to me why the theists think that
adding a magical super-being adds "meaning" to life. Instead of being
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an impersonal Universe, we are
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an inscrutable, immortal magician?
Why is that any more "meaningful?"
The only explanation that I can come up with is that if God is running
things, you cannot be held personally responsible if anything gets fucked
up. In that way, belief in God is more of a "responsibility reliever"
than a "meaningfulness augmenter."
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Panama Floyd" |
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29 Oct 2004 06:38:08 PM |
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For your consideration:
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.10.29.16.05.22.804428@stopspam.net>...
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:19:34 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus QED
(Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if not wrong,
is at least, a bit of a dead end.
Nominated portion begins:
It has always been a bit of a mystery to me why the theists think that
adding a magical super-being adds "meaning" to life. Instead of being
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an impersonal Universe, we are
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an inscrutable, immortal magician?
Why is that any more "meaningful?"
The only explanation that I can come up with is that if God is running
things, you cannot be held personally responsible if anything gets fucked
up. In that way, belief in God is more of a "responsibility reliever"
than a "meaningfulness augmenter."
Nominated portion ends.
Nice stuff, Mark. Seconds?
-Panama Floyd, Atl
aa#2015, Member KoB!
The EAC: We won't rest until *every* helicopter is black.
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29 Oct 2004 09:08:09 PM |
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On 29 Oct 2004 16:38:08 -0700, (Panama Floyd)
wrote:
For your consideration:
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.10.29.16.05.22.804428@stopspam.net>...
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:19:34 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus QED
(Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if not wrong,
is at least, a bit of a dead end.
Nominated portion begins:
It has always been a bit of a mystery to me why the theists think that
adding a magical super-being adds "meaning" to life. Instead of being
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an impersonal Universe, we are
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an inscrutable, immortal magician?
Why is that any more "meaningful?"
The only explanation that I can come up with is that if God is running
things, you cannot be held personally responsible if anything gets fucked
up. In that way, belief in God is more of a "responsibility reliever"
than a "meaningfulness augmenter."
Nominated portion ends.
Nice stuff, Mark. Seconds?
-Panama Floyd, Atl
aa#2015, Member KoB!
The EAC: We won't rest until *every* helicopter is black.
Heartily seconded.
Godfrey
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29 Oct 2004 09:09:11 PM |
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Thirded, even.
Godfrey
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29 Oct 2004 06:46:46 PM |
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Panama Floyd wrote:
For your consideration:
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.10.29.16.05.22.804428@stopspam.net>...
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:19:34 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus QED
(Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if not wrong,
is at least, a bit of a dead end.
Nominated portion begins:
It has always been a bit of a mystery to me why the theists think that
adding a magical super-being adds "meaning" to life. Instead of being
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an impersonal Universe, we are
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an inscrutable, immortal magician?
Why is that any more "meaningful?"
The only explanation that I can come up with is that if God is running
things, you cannot be held personally responsible if anything gets fucked
up. In that way, belief in God is more of a "responsibility reliever"
than a "meaningfulness augmenter."
Nominated portion ends.
Nice stuff, Mark. Seconds?
-Panama Floyd, Atl
aa#2015, Member KoB!
The EAC: We won't rest until *every* helicopter is black.
Seconded!
BK
AA#1992
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM Nomination was: What is a "meaning of life"? |
31 Oct 2004 06:07:09 AM |
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In article <4182d50c_5@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
"B. Kildow" <tracker99@spamenot.foxinternet.net> wrote:
Panama Floyd wrote:
For your consideration:
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:<pan.2004.10.29.16.05.22.804428@stopspam.net>...
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:19:34 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus QED
(Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if not wrong,
is at least, a bit of a dead end.
Nominated portion begins:
It has always been a bit of a mystery to me why the theists think that
adding a magical super-being adds "meaning" to life. Instead of being
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an impersonal Universe, we are
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an inscrutable, immortal magician?
Why is that any more "meaningful?"
The only explanation that I can come up with is that if God is running
things, you cannot be held personally responsible if anything gets fucked
up. In that way, belief in God is more of a "responsibility reliever"
than a "meaningfulness augmenter."
Nominated portion ends.
Nice stuff, Mark. Seconds?
-Panama Floyd, Atl
aa#2015, Member KoB!
The EAC: We won't rest until *every* helicopter is black.
Seconded!
Recorded. Extra groups removed.
BK
AA#1992
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: aa AQOTM nomination! (was Re: What is a "meaning of life"?) |
29 Oct 2004 03:49:59 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:02:56 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:19:34 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus QED
(Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if not wrong,
is at least, a bit of a dead end.
<begin nominated portion>
It has always been a bit of a mystery to me why the theists think that
adding a magical super-being adds "meaning" to life. Instead of being
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an impersonal Universe, we are
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an inscrutable, immortal magician?
Why is that any more "meaningful?"
The only explanation that I can come up with is that if God is running
things, you cannot be held personally responsible if anything gets fucked
up. In that way, belief in God is more of a "responsibility reliever"
than a "meaningfulness augmenter."
Seconds?
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Nov 2004 10:06:14 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:02:56 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:19:34 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus QED
(Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if not wrong,
is at least, a bit of a dead end.
It has always been a bit of a mystery to me why the theists think that
adding a magical super-being adds "meaning" to life. Instead of being
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an impersonal Universe, we are
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an inscrutable, immortal magician?
Why is that any more "meaningful?"
The only explanation that I can come up with is that if God is running
things, you cannot be held personally responsible if anything gets fucked
up. In that way, belief in God is more of a "responsibility reliever"
than a "meaningfulness augmenter."
SSSSSsssshhhhhhh, don't try to inject facts when Christians are
involved, they tend to have temper tantrums.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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29 Oct 2004 12:48:16 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:02:56 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:19:34 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus QED
(Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if not wrong,
is at least, a bit of a dead end.
It has always been a bit of a mystery to me why the theists think that
adding a magical super-being adds "meaning" to life. Instead of being
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an impersonal Universe, we are
scared, lonely primates at the mercy of an inscrutable, immortal magician?
Why is that any more "meaningful?"
They've been brainwashed to think that.
And don't realise just how stupidly nasty it is to accuse the
unbrainwashed of having meningless lives.
The only explanation that I can come up with is that if God is running
things, you cannot be held personally responsible if anything gets fucked
up. In that way, belief in God is more of a "responsibility reliever"
than a "meaningfulness augmenter."
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| User: "Bill" |
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29 Oct 2004 10:41:33 AM |
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There is no meaning of life. There is just living. We are born, live, enjoy,
suffer and die. Enjoy it while you have it. Don't be punished and suffer
from false worries and concerns about whether some non existent god approves
or not of your living. Certainly don't compromise your present life in the
hope of some non existent life to come.
Dead is dead - accept it.
--
Bill
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com...
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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| User: "Olrik" |
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| Title: Re: What is a "meaning of life"? |
30 Oct 2004 01:00:22 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
Life has no meaning. Life *is*. Like any other animal on earth, we
strive to survive. We humans are born to widely different cultures,
environments and parenting skills.
We are all alike in our basic needs (food, drink, shelter, clothing).
Whatever our cultural inheritance, we tend to stick by it. Xtians mostly
become xtians, muslins mostly become muslims, jews become jewish, etc.
It's when you try to diverge from your heritage that you become an
"infidel", and you are rejected from the group.
Anyway, you make your life as you see fit. For some, it's more
comforting to join the group/village/religion. For others, it's more
rewarding to reject any of them.
Just assume your choices.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
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aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
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| User: "agray" |
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29 Oct 2004 12:09:57 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
[snip]
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
A worthy question. I too am honestly curious to know what believers have to
say about this. It's always been my opinion that this _need_ for purpose
is the source of a lot of misery and suffering. I've never believed in any
cosmic "Why?", so I don't get bollixed up trying to figure things out.
Someone who is kind, compassionate, well-loved dies in some tragically comic
way, and people tear their hair out trying to understand why God would do
that. Some devious ***** lies and cheats his way to a megafortune and
lives happily ever after. Why?
There is no rational answer. But since many people do not understand why
living a good life is its own reward, they assume that we non-believers
don't either. If you don't have a God and an idea of Hell, then they can't
imagine what would prevent a non-believer from choosing the life of the
rich devious *****.
I'm probably never going to be rich or famous. My life will not affect the
course of future history very much. I'll be forgotten within a generation
or two. What matters to me is that I'll be happy. People will like me.
Friends will value my companionship. Hopefully, through kindness and
compassion, I'll be able to spread a little good around. That's all the
"purpose" I need. And I don't need a God to tell me this.
--
"By this logic, teaching anti-discrimination against ethnic minorities is
going to turn white people black." --OrangeSFO on rec.gambling.poker
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| User: "Dore" |
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05 Nov 2004 06:13:46 PM |
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Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com...
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
The only purpose and meaning of life is for man to find his way back to his
Creator.
http://dorewilliamson.com/mysteries.html
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:1m84o01v4hd9qsrag4oj5ktr5aa1hctl3m@4ax.com...
No the subject's not a typo. Honest. Trust me.
A lot, well, some, posts that get copied to alt.atheism (aa) seek to
demonstrate that atheists must perceive no "meaning of life," and thus
QED (Quod erat DEMONstrandum, I think, in this instance) atheism if
not wrong, is at least, a bit of a dead end.
If anyone is interested, I'd be interested to know what you resident
believers in alt.bible and alt.religion.Christian.roman-catholic
understand by the term "the meaning of life". Because it's something
of a mystery to me, though perhaps not in the technical theological
sense....
For example, would you think that "purpose to life" is a better term
than "meaning of life"?
For example: I live. I have various purposes within the context of my
life. These range from the trivial to what I consider to be the
important. In some sense I derive meanings from these purposes.
But it seems to me that assigning an overarching "meaning of life" to
my life as opposed to recognising "purposes within life" is a bit
problematic, and I'd be interested in your views on this.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being
read.
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| User: "Andrew W \Paranormal Agnostic" |
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05 Nov 2004 07:38:18 PM |
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:_GUid.711$SC5.497@trnddc01...
The only purpose and meaning of life is for man to find his way back to
his
Creator.
And then do what? die of boredom and come back to the physical world again?
This is the cycle of life.
This world is the only place where we can make things have true meaning for
us and it's the only place that can put a value on light and goodness, but
Christians appear to be so keen to throw away this valuable resource.
Typical human stupidity.
--
Andrew W. (Paranormal Agnostic) An interest in the paranormal (spiritual)
but with acknowledgement that it's existence can neither be proved nor
disproved (agnostic).
"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has
been for us." ~ Pope Leo X (1513-1521)
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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