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10 Jul 2004 10:18:03 AM |
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What is heaven like. |
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
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10 Jul 2004 09:08:33 PM |
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Eris <Vithant01@comcast.net> wrote in message
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My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
God graciously grants short intervals between the eternal praise and worship
sessions. If you hustle you can have a plate of barbecue ribs and a
Guinness, then wank off to Laetitia Casta photos in the interim moments.
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13 Jul 2004 06:40:30 AM |
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Eris <Vithant01@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<e220f05ehlu92ampp7mfct97nr5mshmqcm@4ax.com>...
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
Valhalla, on the other hand...
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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10 Jul 2004 03:14:17 PM |
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Eris wrote:
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
Just got the fourth season of South Park (we don't have
cable or satellite, so it's all new to us!). Apparently
heaven is inhabited by Mormons, the other religions are all
wrong.
Since heaven is full of Mormons, the only sensible place to
go is hell.
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Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum at it's new home!
http://www.selectric.org
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| User: "bob young" |
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10 Jul 2004 08:38:30 PM |
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J Forbes wrote:
Eris wrote:
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
Just got the fourth season of South Park (we don't have
cable or satellite, so it's all new to us!). Apparently
heaven is inhabited by Mormons, the other religions are all
wrong.
Since heaven is full of Mormons, the only sensible place to
go is hell.
"AAAAAAmen"
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Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum at it's new home!
http://www.selectric.org
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| User: "Dan Lowe" |
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10 Jul 2004 11:30:22 AM |
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Eris wrote:
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
Who are you talking to? Is this not alt.atheism?
Dan
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| User: "Eris" |
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10 Jul 2004 03:41:54 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:30:22 GMT, Dan Lowe <dan@deletethisbinlaid.com>
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Eris wrote:
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
Who are you talking to? Is this not alt.atheism?
Dan
If this be alt.atheism then we need to know what the appeal is for the
practitioners of the faith we don't believe in.
Also I think that Alt,atheism is an appropriate place to discuss
virtually anything. If you don't believe me catch one of Robert B.
Winn's posts.
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| User: "Dan Lowe" |
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10 Jul 2004 09:47:12 PM |
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Eris wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:30:22 GMT, Dan Lowe <dan@deletethisbinlaid.com>
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Who are you talking to? Is this not alt.atheism?
Dan
If this be alt.atheism then we need to know what the appeal is for the
practitioners of the faith we don't believe in.
Er, No, you expect 'us' at alt.atheism to explain a place that atheists
do not believe in, if you want to know what heaven looks like, ask
someone who thinks a place like such exists.. And 'practitioners of the
faith' doesn't mean that much to me, which faith? And which heaven? What
are you attempting to accomplish with this line of questioning?
Also I think that Alt,atheism is an appropriate place to discuss
virtually anything. If you don't believe me catch one of Robert B.
Winn's posts.
Uhm, that's not really the point, is it? How do you expect an atheist to
explain heaven? It's a place people make up to soften the reality that
one day they'll cease to exist, they know it exists because someone
wrote a book with it in... Is that a suitable answer for you?
Dan
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| User: "sAnToLiNa" |
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10 Jul 2004 09:10:58 PM |
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Dan Lowe <dan@deletethisbinlaid.com> wrote in message
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Eris wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:30:22 GMT, Dan Lowe <dan@deletethisbinlaid.com>
wrote:
Who are you talking to? Is this not alt.atheism?
Dan
If this be alt.atheism then we need to know what the appeal is for the
practitioners of the faith we don't believe in.
Er, No, you expect 'us' at alt.atheism to explain a place that atheists
do not believe in, if you want to know what heaven looks like, ask
someone who thinks a place like such exists.. And 'practitioners of the
faith' doesn't mean that much to me, which faith? And which heaven? What
are you attempting to accomplish with this line of questioning?
Also I think that Alt,atheism is an appropriate place to discuss
virtually anything. If you don't believe me catch one of Robert B.
Winn's posts.
Uhm, that's not really the point, is it? How do you expect an atheist to
explain heaven? It's a place people make up to soften the reality that
one day they'll cease to exist, they know it exists because someone
wrote a book with it in... Is that a suitable answer for you?
Easy, sport. Dislodge the Mel-Gibson-Scourge from your sphincter and enjoy
your limited time on earth.
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| User: "Dan Lowe" |
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10 Jul 2004 10:22:14 PM |
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sAnToLiNa wrote:
Easy, sport. Dislodge the Mel-Gibson-Scourge from your sphincter and enjoy
your limited time on earth.
Uhm, why are you saying this to me? I'm an atheist.. with no time for
***** films.
Dan
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| User: "sAnToLiNa" |
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10 Jul 2004 09:49:44 PM |
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Dan Lowe <dan@deletethisbinlaid.com> wrote in message
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sAnToLiNa wrote:
Easy, sport. Dislodge the Mel-Gibson-Scourge from your sphincter and
enjoy
your limited time on earth.
Uhm, why are you saying this to me? I'm an atheist.. with no time for
***** films.
Verily I say unto thee, have a Guinness and an Ex-Lax. The Godless universe
will still be here when you get back.
Jesus, the original poster said, "I think that Alt,atheism is an appropriate
place to discuss virtually anything." If that ain't the fuckin' truth I
don't know what is.
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11 Jul 2004 05:17:28 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:18:03 -0400, Eris <Vithant01@comcast.net>
wrote:
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
It's whatever you imagine it to be. That's what the "true believers"
do.
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zamboni
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Denigrator of Theists
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| User: "duke" |
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10 Jul 2004 01:55:10 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:18:03 -0400, Eris <Vithant01@comcast.net> wrote:
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
Eternal love, happiness and peace of mind for God is all love.
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal aimless wandering with no
love - no love of God, no love of self, no love of family, no love of others, no love of
anything.
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
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| User: "Puck Greenman" |
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11 Jul 2004 02:09:34 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:55:10 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> with
calm deliberation, and malace aforethought, wrote:
Eternal love, happiness and peace of mind for God is all love.
A perfect recipe for eternal boredom.
Better to be dead.
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal aimless wandering with no
love - no love of God, no love of self, no love of family, no love of others, no love of
anything.
So even though there are going to be more in hell, than in heaven,
none of them will ever meet each other?
Puck Greenman
#162
BAAWA Knight.
Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
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| User: "duke" |
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11 Jul 2004 06:26:47 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:09:34 +0100, Puck Greenman <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
Eternal love, happiness and peace of mind for God is all love.
A perfect recipe for eternal boredom.
Better to be dead.
That's not an option. One eternity or the other are the only two choices. and you're
clearly on the path to the wholeheartedly worst one, your choice.
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal aimless wandering with no
love - no love of God, no love of self, no love of family, no love of others, no love of
anything.
So even though there are going to be more in hell, than in heaven,
none of them will ever meet each other?
Regardless of the number in hell, yep, that's pretty much it. An eternity here or an
eternity there.
No one has gone to either one and returned to tell about it.
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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10 Jul 2004 08:07:30 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:18:03 -0400, Eris <Vithant01@comcast.net>
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My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
Eternal love, happiness and peace of mind for God is all love.
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal
aimless wandering with no love - no love of God, no love of self, no
love of family, no love of others, no love of anything.
Yet we have it on the authority of th bible that some creatures were not
happy with that location and did not believe that the god who allegedly
wrote the book on the subject was as powerful as the those who read the book
say it is.
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11 Jul 2004 09:55:26 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 01:07:30 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal
aimless wandering with no love - no love of God, no love of self, no
love of family, no love of others, no love of anything.
Yet we have it on the authority of th bible that some creatures were not
happy with that location and did not believe that the god who allegedly
wrote the book on the subject was as powerful as the those who read the book
say it is.
Who's your authority - donald duck?
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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11 Jul 2004 11:13:54 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 01:07:30 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal
aimless wandering with no love - no love of God, no love of self, no
love of family, no love of others, no love of anything.
Yet we have it on the authority of th bible that some creatures were
not happy with that location and did not believe that the god who
allegedly wrote the book on the subject was as powerful as the those
who read the book say it is.
Who's your authority - donald duck?
Might as well have been. Are you denying what your bible says?
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11 Jul 2004 06:21:30 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:13:54 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 01:07:30 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal
aimless wandering with no love - no love of God, no love of self, no
love of family, no love of others, no love of anything.
Yet we have it on the authority of th bible that some creatures were
not happy with that location and did not believe that the god who
allegedly wrote the book on the subject was as powerful as the those
who read the book say it is.
Who's your authority - donald duck?
Might as well have been. Are you denying what your bible says?
I guess you rather play children's games than discuss like a man.
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
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11 Jul 2004 11:52:02 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:21:30 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:13:54 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 01:07:30 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal
aimless wandering with no love - no love of God, no love of self, no
love of family, no love of others, no love of anything.
Yet we have it on the authority of th bible that some creatures were
not happy with that location and did not believe that the god who
allegedly wrote the book on the subject was as powerful as the those
who read the book say it is.
Who's your authority - donald duck?
Might as well have been. Are you denying what your bible says?
I guess you rather play children's games than discuss like a man.
What irony, and it was dookie that referred to Donald Duck.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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12 Jul 2004 12:06:18 AM |
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AngryJohn wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:21:30 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:13:54 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 01:07:30 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal
aimless wandering with no love - no love of God, no love of
self, no love of family, no love of others, no love of anything.
Yet we have it on the authority of th bible that some creatures
were not happy with that location and did not believe that the
god who allegedly wrote the book on the subject was as powerful
as the those who read the book say it is.
Who's your authority - donald duck?
Might as well have been. Are you denying what your bible says?
I guess you rather play children's games than discuss like a man.
What irony, and it was dookie that referred to Donald Duck.
He's haveing one of his little eposides. Most of his posts have left out or
included extra words.
As has been pointed out by anybody that deals with Earl for more than a few
posts he quickly resorts to the "I'm rubber, your (sic) glue argument.
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13 Jul 2004 10:32:59 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 05:06:18 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
AngryJohn wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:21:30 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:13:54 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 01:07:30 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal
aimless wandering with no love - no love of God, no love of
self, no love of family, no love of others, no love of anything.
Yet we have it on the authority of th bible that some creatures
were not happy with that location and did not believe that the
god who allegedly wrote the book on the subject was as powerful
as the those who read the book say it is.
Who's your authority - donald duck?
Might as well have been. Are you denying what your bible says?
I guess you rather play children's games than discuss like a man.
What irony, and it was dookie that referred to Donald Duck.
He's haveing one of his little eposides. Most of his posts have left out or
included extra words.
I think he is getting sicker. He is easier than ever to entice into a
comment which is self contradictory.
As has been pointed out by anybody that deals with Earl for more than a few
posts he quickly resorts to the "I'm rubber, your (sic) glue argument.
Heck, didn't you get your new copy of the game "How many lines to make
Duke say "I'm rubber, your (sic) glue". The EAC issued it to all
members. Heck, the winner at the end of the year, the one that causes
the least amount of lines in a message to exist before dookie resorts
to this statement wins an all expenses paid trip to #$5&(**4##, with
an EAC Visa card to boot.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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13 Jul 2004 11:53:45 PM |
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AngryJohn wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 05:06:18 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Heck, didn't you get your new copy of the game "How many lines to make
Duke say "I'm rubber, your (sic) glue". The EAC issued it to all
members. Heck, the winner at the end of the year, the one that causes
the least amount of lines in a message to exist before dookie resorts
to this statement wins an all expenses paid trip to #$5&(**4##, with
an EAC Visa card to boot.
I'm not eligible. I've posted a number of one liners that get this reaction.
They realiuze thatby the end of the year I'll probably be able to post a
blank message and win.
I worked with a guy once that I treased so much that he would get angry when
I said "good morning"
One day he exploded and said that if I was so smart ask him *anything* about
geology and he would asnwer it. Now I know about four things. Ignious,
metamorphic, sedentary are three. So I said "What's a tectite, Paul?' He
didn't know and didn't believe me so I smiled and went on my way.
Unlike our friend Earl, he found out. It took him three days (Radio Shack
model I days) but he must have leanred a lot because when he did come back
to me he was quite happy.
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14 Jul 2004 08:34:55 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:53:45 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
AngryJohn wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 05:06:18 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Heck, didn't you get your new copy of the game "How many lines to make
Duke say "I'm rubber, your (sic) glue". The EAC issued it to all
members. Heck, the winner at the end of the year, the one that causes
the least amount of lines in a message to exist before dookie resorts
to this statement wins an all expenses paid trip to #$5&(**4##, with
an EAC Visa card to boot.
I'm not eligible. I've posted a number of one liners that get this reaction.
They realiuze thatby the end of the year I'll probably be able to post a
blank message and win.
Well, we might have to make it a contest of quantity then.
I worked with a guy once that I treased so much that he would get angry when
I said "good morning"
One day he exploded and said that if I was so smart ask him *anything* about
geology and he would asnwer it. Now I know about four things. Ignious,
metamorphic, sedentary are three. So I said "What's a tectite, Paul?' He
didn't know and didn't believe me so I smiled and went on my way.
Unlike our friend Earl, he found out. It took him three days (Radio Shack
model I days) but he must have leanred a lot because when he did come back
to me he was quite happy.
I worked for someone like that back in my Navy days. He was a rabid
born again christian. Which, for the most part I just ignored except
when he tried to order us to sit and listen to him preach. At those
times I went ballistic. I never gained a shred of respect for him as
he knew nothing about our rate, couldn't tell a transistor for and
SCR. The final straw was when he spent a long minute praying so he
could identify a problem with a piece of equipment that was not
functioning properly. Took me about 30 minutes with the scope,
prints, and an idea of what was wrong to identify the problem and get
it fixed. I then ridiculed him and his prayer, said things like
"E=MC2, not a good idea, it's the law", etc........ After that he
just turned his back on me whenever I entered the room. Dookie
reminds me a lot of this guy, hmmmm, I wonder........
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10 Jul 2004 08:37:52 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:18:03 -0400, Eris <Vithant01@comcast.net> wrote:
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
Eternal love, happiness and peace of mind for God is all love.
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal aimless wandering with no
love - no love of God, no love of self, no love of family, no love of others, no love of
anything.
Both heaven and hell are the primitive superstious imaginings of early man. That
contemporary man can still subscribe to such rubbish is a strong condemnation of present day
intelligence.
Bob
A Brit.
Hong kong
A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties
and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
[Albert Einstein]
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
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11 Jul 2004 08:50:43 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:37:52 +0800, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:18:03 -0400, Eris <Vithant01@comcast.net> wrote:
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
Eternal love, happiness and peace of mind for God is all love.
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal aimless wandering with no
love - no love of God, no love of self, no love of family, no love of others, no love of
anything.
Both heaven and hell are the primitive superstious imaginings of early man. That
contemporary man can still subscribe to such rubbish is a strong condemnation of present day
intelligence.
Very true. Heaven will be great because it was created by a God of love.
Earth has good and bad because it was created by a God of love.
Hell will be terrible because it was created by a God of love.
Bob
A Brit.
Hong kong
-Barry
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What is heaven like. |
11 Jul 2004 09:57:03 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:37:52 +0800, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal aimless wandering with no
love - no love of God, no love of self, no love of family, no love of others, no love of
anything.
Both heaven and hell are the primitive superstious imaginings of early man. That
contemporary man can still subscribe to such rubbish is a strong condemnation of present day
intelligence.
Or to deny is a strong condemnation of present day ignorance.
A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties
and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
[Albert Einstein]
Even albert understood what Christianity is all about.
duke
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I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: What is heaven like. |
11 Jul 2004 11:15:34 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:37:52 +0800, bob young
<alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal
aimless wandering with no love - no love of God, no love of self,
no love of family, no love of others, no love of anything.
Both heaven and hell are the primitive superstious imaginings of
early man. That contemporary man can still subscribe to such
rubbish is a strong condemnation of present day intelligence.
Or to deny is a strong condemnation of present day ignorance.
A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy,
education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is
necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
[Albert Einstein]
Even albert understood what Christianity is all about.
Earl is having problems with reading again. Here he ignores "...no religious
basis is necessary."
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What is heaven like. |
11 Jul 2004 06:23:34 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:15:34 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy,
education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is
necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
[Albert Einstein]
Even albert understood what Christianity is all about.
Earl is having problems with reading again. Here he ignores "...no religious
basis is necessary."
Of course not. What Einstein said is what God said. But I wouldn't expect you to know
that.
Religion/religious is a relative definitional term.
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
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| User: "Fnord" |
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| Title: Re: What is heaven like. |
11 Jul 2004 02:58:08 PM |
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bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message news:<40F099F0.2E5AEBD9@netvigator.com>...
duke wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:18:03 -0400, Eris <Vithant01@comcast.net> wrote:
My understanding of the heaven myth is that you folks will sit around
singing the praises all day. Sounds boring. I am not going. Seriously
what do we have to look forward to in going to heaven with the
invention of the forty hour work week?
If you really want to know try finding a copy of the book of enoch.
Eternal love, happiness and peace of mind for God is all love.
What is hell, which you get, if you don't go to heaven! Eternal aimless wandering with no
love - no love of God, no love of self, no love of family, no love of others, no love of
anything.
Both heaven and hell are the primitive superstious imaginings of early man. That
contemporary man can still subscribe to such rubbish is a strong condemnation of present day
intelligence.
Bob
A Brit.
Hong kong
A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties
and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
[Albert Einstein]
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
I doubt the existence of a "hell". And i doubt that heaven is the way
it is often described. An eternity of being forced to pray all day by
catholics seems almost as bad as etarnal damnation. A god that
deranged couldn't make a milkskake, let alone the reality we live in
today.
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: What is heaven like. |
12 Jul 2004 09:49:33 PM |
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On 11 Jul 2004 12:58:08 -0700, (Fnord) wrote:
I doubt the existence of a "hell". And i doubt that heaven is the way
it is often described. An eternity of being forced to pray all day by
catholics seems almost as bad as etarnal damnation. A god that
deranged couldn't make a milkskake, let alone the reality we live in
today.
In the olden days pray was a welcome break from back breaking labor.
Church had a lot of interesting things to see and do, including if I
remember right fornication, drinking and gambling. More fun away from
the back breaking work.
If I was having my balls busted daily by the feudal lords knights, and
was working my butt off for little in return. Sitting around praying
all day would seem like a good deal.
But alas no television or radio in heaven. I ain't going.
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