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01 Apr 2007 07:54:07 AM |
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What is Hell? |
What is Hell?
The rendering of these three Scripture terms
Hebrew 'Sheol' and three Greek words 'Hades', 'Gehenna' and
'Tartarus'
It is obvious that the view that most of humanity are destined to
spend eternity in misery in Hell cannot be reconciled with those
scriptures which predict restoration of all; Yet the word hell occurs
thirty-one times in the old testament and twenty-two times in the new
testament in the authorized king-james version. This one English term
has been made to represent the Hebrew 'sheol' and three Greek words
'hades', 'gehenna' and 'tartarus'.
We must inquire whether these four terms mean the same and whether
'hell' in it's modern meaning fits any of them.
"Hell' is the noun form of the old Anglo-Saxon verb 'hele' which means
to hide, conceal or bury something. In one of his poems Chaucer
wrote: "To hide and 'hele' things, meaning to conceal them. In its
old English significance "hell" was an appropriate rendering of the
Greek 'hades' which means the un-seen or imperceptible and since the
Septuagint Greek translation of old testaments books produced by
seventy-two Hellenists (Greek peaking Jews) about two centuries B.C.,
consistently translates 'sheol' with the word 'hades', we must
conclude that these terms are synonymous . Since both invariably refer
to the grave or the condition of humans between death and
resurrection, or a state akin to death (Jonah 2: 2-5), we can find no
more appropriate English term than 'hell' provided we keep to its
"ORIGINAL-MEANING".
Look up and find the many passages of The Holy-Scripture, which prove
that 'sheol' or 'hades' is the grave or the state of the dead, not
living humans suffering in hell, or enjoying bliss in heaven. They are
dead and awaiting the resurrection from death.
Sunday, March 18, 2007 __________________________________________ (SMK)
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| User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" |
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| Title: Re: What is Hell? |
01 Apr 2007 09:26:19 AM |
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<celestials1938@msn.com> wrote in message
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What is Hell?
<snip>
Look up and find the many passages of The Holy-Scripture, which prove
that 'sheol' or 'hades' is the grave or the state of the dead, not
living humans suffering in hell, or enjoying bliss in heaven. They are
dead and awaiting the resurrection from death.
Sunday, March 18, 2007 __________________________________________ (SMK)
No, no, no. The dead go to dimension W where they
spin counter clockwise for 11 thousand years.
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rb
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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02 Apr 2007 03:05:47 PM |
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<celestials1938@msn.com> wrote in message
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What is Hell?
Made up ***** to scare the kiddies. Next!
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: What is Hell? |
04 Apr 2007 01:14:42 PM |
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On 1 Apr 2007 05:54:07 -0700, wrote:
What is Hell?
A very bad place that God created especially for Southern Baptists.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "John Baker" |
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01 Apr 2007 12:26:40 PM |
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On 1 Apr 2007 05:54:07 -0700, wrote:
What is Hell?
Having to endure the inane yammering of mindless theists.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: AQOTM nomination Was Re: What is Hell? |
01 Apr 2007 09:42:15 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On 1 Apr 2007 05:54:07 -0700, wrote:
What is Hell?
Having to endure the inane yammering of mindless theists.
Seconds, anyone?
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "L.Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM nomination Was Re: What is Hell? |
01 Apr 2007 09:47:11 PM |
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On Apr 1, 10:42 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:toqv0312jhke59f32b52gsiutmmi8c1bf0@4ax.com...> On 1 Apr 2007 05:54:07 -0700, wrote:
What is Hell?
Having to endure the inane yammering of mindless theists.
Seconds, anyone?
Smiler,
The godless one
Seconded.
L.Roberts
a.a # 2258
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM nomination Was Re: What is Hell? |
02 Apr 2007 06:35:41 PM |
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In article <1175482031.087002.179300@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 1, 10:42 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:toqv0312jhke59f32b52gsiutmmi8c1bf0@4ax.com...> On 1 Apr 2007 05:54:07
-0700, wrote:
What is Hell?
Having to endure the inane yammering of mindless theists.
Seconds, anyone?
Smiler,
The godless one
Seconded.
L.Roberts
a.a # 2258
Recorded
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Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM nomination Was Re: What is Hell? |
02 Apr 2007 10:18:19 AM |
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Smiler:
What is Hell?
Having to endure the inane yammering of mindless theists.
Seconds, anyone?
Here's an honorary second from a non-morontheist believer, for what it's
worth ;)
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: What is Hell? |
01 Apr 2007 10:45:22 AM |
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On 1 apr, 14:54, wrote:
What is Hell?
The rendering of these three Scripture terms
Hebrew 'Sheol' and three Greek words 'Hades', 'Gehenna' and
'Tartarus'
It is obvious that the view that most of humanity are destined to
spend eternity in misery in Hell cannot be reconciled with those
scriptures which predict restoration of all; Yet the word hell occurs
thirty-one times in the old testament and twenty-two times in the new
testament in the authorized king-james version. This one English term
has been made to represent the Hebrew 'sheol' and three Greek words
'hades', 'gehenna' and 'tartarus'.
We must inquire whether these four terms mean the same and whether
'hell' in it's modern meaning fits any of them.
"Hell' is the noun form of the old Anglo-Saxon verb 'hele' which means
to hide, conceal or bury something. In one of his poems Chaucer
wrote: "To hide and 'hele' things, meaning to conceal them. In its
old English significance "hell" was an appropriate rendering of the
Greek 'hades' which means the un-seen or imperceptible and since the
Septuagint Greek translation of old testaments books produced by
seventy-two Hellenists (Greek peaking Jews) about two centuries B.C.,
consistently translates 'sheol' with the word 'hades', we must
conclude that these terms are synonymous . Since both invariably refer
to the grave or the condition of humans between death and
resurrection, or a state akin to death (Jonah 2: 2-5), we can find no
more appropriate English term than 'hell' provided we keep to its
"ORIGINAL-MEANING".
Look up and find the many passages of The Holy-Scripture, which prove
that 'sheol' or 'hades' is the grave or the state of the dead, not
living humans suffering in hell, or enjoying bliss in heaven. They are
dead and awaiting the resurrection from death.
Sunday, March 18, 2007 __________________________________________ (SMK)
Whatever it is meant to be.
it is illusionary
Once we die, we stop existing.
Our body may go under the ground,
or may be burned.
That what makes a living body different from a dead body
simply ceizes to exist.
The main difference between a human being dying and a machine breaking
down.
is that when a machine is broken, it can often be repaired,
because most of it's parts stay intact,
while a human being is made of about 70,000,000,000,000 seperate
cells.
And they all die.
We would need 70,000,000,000,000 biological engineers to revive those
cell,
and another 100,000,000,000,000 to repair our synapsis.
It would indeed be a Hell of a Job!
Peter van Velzen
April 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: What is Hell? |
04 Apr 2007 07:29:55 AM |
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On Apr 1, 8:54 am, wrote:
What is Hell?
An imaginary place where an imaginary supposedly all loving God sends
people to for doing things said imaginary God does not approve of
despite the fact he created them and the conditions which said
imaginary god knew would result in said actions he did not approve of
and did nothing to prevent.
Hatter
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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01 Apr 2007 09:45:18 AM |
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 06:54:07 -0700, celestials1938 wrote:
What is Hell?
A concept worthy of today's date...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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02 Apr 2007 08:34:09 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo expressed precisely :
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 06:54:07 -0700, celestials1938 wrote:
What is Hell?
A concept worthy of today's date...
ROFL! A really good one!
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Pangur Ban - funter
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