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"Andrew W" |
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23 Aug 2003 08:25:50 PM |
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What will Christians do once they get to heaven? |
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What will Christians do once they get to heaven?
Christians aren't told what they will be doing once they get to heaven. As
far as they know they will just be worshipping god at his feet for the rest
of their existence. That is not a proper existence. It is just an endless
state of servitude. Christians are not permitted to ascend to a higher
state. When they go from this world to the next they simply go from one life
of servitude to another.
The reason Christians cannot ascend is because they are living and
experiencing someone else's truth, not their own truth. They have been
taught by their religion to live and experience the truth of a tyrannical
god and to just blindly obey him. They may never realise and experience who
they are, and living one's own truth is essential to spiritually evolve.
Christians are taught that they are in this world to get to know god. This
is nonsense. Would you send your children to the farthest reaches of the
globe to get to know you? You have to be with someone to get to know them.
In this 3rd dimension we are about as far away from god as one can get.
We already knew god before we came to this dimension.
We have no need to get to know him again. We are here to get to know
ourselves. In this world, our world, anything goes. We get to do what we
want. We are here to make a statement about who we are.
Here we get to write our own script for living. This is our stage and our
show. Our true creator does not interfere with what we do here, only the
satanic god of the bible does.
Another major reason why Christians cannot ascend is because they have
allowed themselves to be trapped in the low vibration of fear, prejudice,
judgement and ignorance because of what they've been taught and until they
release themselves from that mentality they will remain trapped in the cycle
of this dimensional matrix. Christian heaven and hell are also parts of the
matrix and reside in the astral plane. What Christians don't know and are
not told is that when they go to heaven they stay there for a while and then
cycle back down into this world again through rebirth.
Christians are constantly threatened with hell and then they are told that
they have a choice. This choice can be compared to the choice that a robber
gives his victim - "your money or your life". Christians are so
indoctrinated that they cannot see that this is not a choice but a threat. A
choice is a choice between two or more viable options. Death or eternal
suffering are not a viable options.
There is no future for someone who goes to hell so it can never be a valid
choice, it is merely a callous threat. Eternal worship and simple servitude
are also not viable or proper ways to exist for an intelligent, creative and
resourceful soul.
It is clear that the god of the bible is a tyrant and not the creator of all
that is. Try telling that to a Christian and they get angry and start
quoting absurdities from their bible.
While a person continues to be a fundamentalist Christian, he/she can never
ascend. Christians are told lies that only one person can ever, and has ever
ascended and that is Jesus Christ, the purported only son of god. Jesus did
live but he was not the only son of god because there would be something
wrong with god if he only ever managed to produce one spiritual offspring.
Some Christians will argue that Jesus was god's only *begotten* son, in
other words the only spiritual/human hybrid, but we are all spiritual/human
hybrids so why are the rest of us barred from ascending? Christians say it's
because Jesus is god. The truth is we are all equal parts of god. It is the
bible that tells most Christians these things. To some Christians a bible is
essential for living because many Christians have lost the ability to think
for themselves. In many cases taking the bible away from a fundamentalist
Christian would leave him or her a miserable zombie.
--
Andrew.
Imagination is more important than knowledge.
- Albert Einstein
The truth about what's really happening in this world is here.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: What will Christians do once they get to heaven? |
24 Aug 2003 08:13:29 AM |
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:25:50 +1000 in alt.atheism, Andrew W ("Andrew
W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians and
therefore should be avoided by them.
What will Christians do once they get to heaven?
Why take unending pleasure in the justice of God as manifest in the
unending screams of the damned, of course.
[snip]
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: What will Christians do once they get to heaven? |
24 Aug 2003 02:28:57 AM |
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:14:33 +1000 in alt.atheism, Clayton Episode
1...The Farting Menace ("Clayton Episode 1...The Farting Menace"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f48141e$0$4186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians and
therefore should be avoided by them.
I was once told that they are filled with boundless energy and will work
tirelessly for all eternity, happiness coming from their deeds.
Through work comes freedom.
Hmmm...where have I heard that before? Over a gate somewhere....!! Hmmmmm.
"Arbeit Macht Frei". I wonder if they know God is a German?
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| User: "ArWeGod" |
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30 Aug 2003 12:40:36 AM |
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"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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The truth is we are all equal parts of god.
Whaaaa.....we are all equally part of nothing? I don't understand.
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ArWeGod
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| User: "Bob Dog" |
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24 Aug 2003 10:22:59 AM |
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"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote in message news:<3f48141e$0$4186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians and
therefore should be avoided by them.
The only reason a xian would complain is because *they* are
"offended", not their mythical god. If there was one, would
it have allowed you to post this?
What will Christians do once they get to heaven?
Christians aren't told what they will be doing once they get to heaven. As
far as they know they will just be worshipping god at his feet for the rest
of their existence. That is not a proper existence. It is just an endless
state of servitude. Christians are not permitted to ascend to a higher
state. When they go from this world to the next they simply go from one life
of servitude to another.
Quoth gay atheist and fur "Two The Ranting Gryphon" in his
"prayer" rant:
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And I'm tired of hearing about how you're going to kick my
***** and send me to hell with all the heathens. I don't
think you've got the balls! If you got it, bring it! Throw
my ***** in hell because I'd rather be there!
I mean, what you got up there? Gold on your streets and
pearls in your gates, and a bunch of snooty religious nuts
with expensive perfumes singing stupid-***** church songs and
eating crackers with no salt and drinking grape juice out of
little plastic cups! And walking around like they have
vaseline smeared in the cracks of their asses! ***** that,
man! All the cool people and my favorite rock bands are
gonna be in hell! It's gonna be a constant Saturday night
heavy metal vomit party for all eternity! We're gonna use
that gold and those pearls to buy drugs and booze and nasty
foreign beastiality tapes and party the ***** down. That's
where I wanna be! [...] Hey, it'd be a little bit warmer
but if the only way to get air conditioning is to brown nose
you all my life then I'd rather go without!
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Bob Dog
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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24 Aug 2003 07:12:49 AM |
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"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote:
What will Christians do once they get to heaven?
Same thing they do here. Try to kick out everyone unlike them.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Peter" |
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24 Aug 2003 08:58:18 AM |
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"Clayton Episode 1...The Farting Menace"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au> wrote in
news:3f4865ba$0$15131$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:
"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f48141e$0$4186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians
and therefore should be avoided by them.
I was once told that they are filled with boundless energy and
will work tirelessly for all eternity, happiness coming from their
deeds.
Through work comes freedom.
Hmmm...where have I heard that before? Over a gate
somewhere....!! Hmmmmm.
I'm not sure what the gate part means but that's about the most
appealing realistic idea for an afterlife I've ever heard. (the ones
involving assorted debauchery sound like a whole lot of fun but I
rather suspect the novelty would wear off after a bit).
peter
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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24 Aug 2003 04:45:17 PM |
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"Peter" <z@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93E1F409F8126rzis@130.102.2.1...
"Clayton Episode 1...The Farting Menace"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au> wrote in
news:3f4865ba$0$15131$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:
"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f48141e$0$4186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians
and therefore should be avoided by them.
I was once told that they are filled with boundless energy and
will work tirelessly for all eternity, happiness coming from their
deeds.
Through work comes freedom.
Hmmm...where have I heard that before? Over a gate
somewhere....!! Hmmmmm.
I'm not sure what the gate part means but that's about the most
appealing realistic idea for an afterlife I've ever heard. (the ones
involving assorted debauchery sound like a whole lot of fun but I
rather suspect the novelty would wear off after a bit).
peter
I can think of a better way of spending the rest of eternity.
What if this world is an advanced god school and we are all graduates?
What if when we all graduate from here we all get assigned our own worlds or
even our own parallel universes and get to be gods ourselves?
Andrew.
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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| Title: Re: What will Christians do once they get to heaven? |
25 Aug 2003 02:11:25 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:lu0jkvsv2imjrkiqjg2un620f08dtfcqkq@Pern.rk...
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:45:17 +1000, "Andrew W"
<ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> posted in alt.atheism:
I can think of a better way of spending the rest of eternity.
What if this world is an advanced god school and we are all graduates?
What if when we all graduate from here we all get assigned our own worlds
or
even our own parallel universes and get to be gods ourselves?
If nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve.
--
"Creationists are the best evidence we have that there is no intelligent
design."
-Josef Ballu
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rukbat at optonline dot net
Ok.
Can I have your world then?
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| User: "Letao" |
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25 Aug 2003 07:40:52 AM |
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:45:17 +1000, "Andrew W"
<ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> posted in alt.atheism:
I can think of a better way of spending the rest of eternity.
What if this world is an advanced god school and we are all graduates?
What if when we all graduate from here we all get assigned our own worlds
or even our own parallel universes and get to be gods ourselves?
Joined the Mormon church, have you?
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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| Title: Re: What will Christians do once they get to heaven? |
25 Aug 2003 04:50:57 PM |
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"Letao" <letao@fire.and.fishing.net> wrote in message
news:letao-119502.08405025082003@netnews.attbi.com...
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:45:17 +1000, "Andrew W"
<ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> posted in alt.atheism:
I can think of a better way of spending the rest of eternity.
What if this world is an advanced god school and we are all
graduates?
What if when we all graduate from here we all get assigned our own
worlds
or even our own parallel universes and get to be gods ourselves?
Joined the Mormon church, have you?
No. Why? Do they have a similar philosophy?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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25 Aug 2003 08:24:07 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:11:25 +1000, "Andrew W"
<ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> posted in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:lu0jkvsv2imjrkiqjg2un620f08dtfcqkq@Pern.rk...
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:45:17 +1000, "Andrew W"
<ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> posted in alt.atheism:
I can think of a better way of spending the rest of eternity.
What if this world is an advanced god school and we are all graduates?
What if when we all graduate from here we all get assigned our own worlds or
even our own parallel universes and get to be gods ourselves?
If nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve.
Ok.
Can I have your world then?
You're THAT MUCH a masochist? Sure. YOU handle millions of
complaints an hour, 24/7/365.
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"To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains
premature today."
- Isaac Asimov
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rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Ghost Rider" |
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24 Aug 2003 11:39:59 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Peter fired a few neurons and wrote
"Clayton Episode 1...The Farting Menace"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au> wrote in
news:3f4865ba$0$15131$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:
"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f48141e$0$4186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians
and therefore should be avoided by them.
I was once told that they are filled with boundless energy and
will work tirelessly for all eternity, happiness coming from their
deeds.
Through work comes freedom.
Hmmm...where have I heard that before? Over a gate
somewhere....!! Hmmmmm.
I'm not sure what the gate part means but that's about the most
appealing realistic idea for an afterlife I've ever heard. (the ones
involving assorted debauchery sound like a whole lot of fun but I
rather suspect the novelty would wear off after a bit).
peter
Is that the biblical bit, or the Euro bit? I understand the biblical bit
can be many times longer than the Euro.
That idea above makes me think - well, most do - about exactly what a
"soul" would do with boundless energy, since its cardiovascular and
muscular systems remain on earth rotting away. And what fruits would be
borne of the labor of armless arms, handless hands and legless legs.
Oh, we atheists take all the fun out of daydreaming, don't we?
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Ghost Rider
aa # 2011
EAC Nonexistent Director of Alcohol, Tobacco and Bad Puns
"How can you just obey?"
[Greg Lake, "Infinite Space" - Emerson, Lake & Palmer]
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| User: "Joe Random" |
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24 Aug 2003 11:04:20 AM |
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Peter wrote:
"Clayton Episode 1...The Farting Menace"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au> wrote in
news:3f4865ba$0$15131$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:
"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f48141e$0$4186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians
and therefore should be avoided by them.
I was once told that they are filled with boundless energy and
will work tirelessly for all eternity, happiness coming from their
deeds.
Through work comes freedom.
Hmmm...where have I heard that before? Over a gate
somewhere....!! Hmmmmm.
I'm not sure what the gate part means but that's about the most
appealing realistic idea for an afterlife I've ever heard. (the ones
involving assorted debauchery sound like a whole lot of fun but I
rather suspect the novelty would wear off after a bit).
peter
http://www.spectacle.org/695/arbeit.html
~JR
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| User: "Claytons Roasting On An Open Fire" |
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25 Aug 2003 02:19:23 AM |
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"Joe Random" <JoeRandom@invalid.com> wrote in message
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Peter wrote:
"Clayton Episode 1...The Farting Menace"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au> wrote in
news:3f4865ba$0$15131$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:
"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f48141e$0$4186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians
and therefore should be avoided by them.
I was once told that they are filled with boundless energy and
will work tirelessly for all eternity, happiness coming from their
deeds.
Through work comes freedom.
Hmmm...where have I heard that before? Over a gate
somewhere....!! Hmmmmm.
I'm not sure what the gate part means but that's about the most
appealing realistic idea for an afterlife I've ever heard. (the ones
involving assorted debauchery sound like a whole lot of fun but I
rather suspect the novelty would wear off after a bit).
peter
http://www.spectacle.org/695/arbeit.html
Excellent link.
~JR
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| User: "Joe Random" |
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23 Aug 2003 09:05:11 PM |
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Andrew W wrote:
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians and
therefore should be avoided by them.
What will Christians do once they get to heaven?
Christians aren't told what they will be doing once they get to heaven. As
far as they know they will just be worshipping god at his feet for the rest
of their existence. That is not a proper existence. It is just an endless
state of servitude.
<snip to end>
This is why I worship Azathoth - I REALLY dig a good flute jam session.
Ia!,
~JR
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: What will Christians do once they get to heaven? |
24 Aug 2003 01:16:39 AM |
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In article <3f48141e$0$4186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians and
therefore should be avoided by them.
What will Christians do once they get to heaven?
I don't know. What can you do in a place that doesn't exist? :-)
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "Craig McDonald" |
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23 Aug 2003 11:19:38 PM |
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:25:50 +1000, "Andrew W"
<ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians and
therefore should be avoided by them.
What will Christians do once they get to heaven?
<snip>
Heaven doesn't exist, nor does the christian diety... and there
certainly is no such thing as an eternal soul to travel to the
aforementioned fictional place.
Your question, therefore, is moot.
Red Celt
aa#883
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Boy, I've never seen an issue so divisive. It's like a civil war,
isn't it? Even amongst my friends, who are all very intelligent
people, they are totally divided on abortion. Some of my friends, for
instance, think these pro-life people are annoying idiots. Others of
my friends think these pro-life people are evil fucks.
How are we going to come to a consensus?
You want to hear the arguments around my house.
"They're annoying!"
"They're idiots!"
"They're evil!"
"They're fucks!"
Brothers, sisters come together! Can't we once just join hands and
think of them as evil annoying idiot fucks?
-- the late great Bill Hicks
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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24 Aug 2003 08:05:26 PM |
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:14:33 +1000, "Clayton Episode 1...The Farting
Menace" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au> posted in alt.atheism:
"Andrew W" <ajwerner_zpam_@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f48141e$0$4186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Disclaimer:
The following could be offensive to some bible fanatic Christians and
therefore should be avoided by them.
I was once told that they are filled with boundless energy and will work
tirelessly for all eternity, happiness coming from their deeds.
Through work comes freedom.
Hmmm...where have I heard that before? Over a gate somewhere....!! Hmmmmm.
A tale told by another Christian, as I recall. :)
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"I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of the structure of the world
insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it."
- Letter to S. Flesch, April 16, 1954; Einstein Archive 30-1154
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