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"Josef Balluch" |
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11 Jan 2006 02:49:34 PM |
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What Would Jesus Smoke? |
Cannabis, according to a study of scripture.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=5007
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/11/100708.shtml
The study appears in the latest issue of High Times magazine, so there
is an obvious ulterior motive. Even so, the story is good for a chuckle.
Regards,
Josef
All bad things were at one time good things; every original virtue has
developed into an original sin.
-- Denny Gillespie
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11 Jan 2006 03:26:15 PM |
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"Josef Balluch" <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e2f3964c6b2cd10989c77@news1.on.sympatico.ca...
Cannabis, according to a study of scripture.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=5007
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/11/100708.shtml
The study appears in the latest issue of High Times magazine, so there
is an obvious ulterior motive. Even so, the story is good for a chuckle.
Loved these quotes:
"If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient anointing oil
and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers
Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered
anti-Christ."
and:
"Bennett refers to the "easy availability and long-established tradition of
cannabis in early Judaism" as further evidence of its use in
pre-Christianity rituals and healings, and says it is likely that the oils
Jesus used were "literally drenched in this potent mixture."
So...I guess this means Amsterdam is Heaven?
LC~ Been there, done that. But didn't inhale...
"What was it that Adam ate that he wasn't supposed to eat? It wasn't just
an apple. It was the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. The
subtle message? 'Get smart and I'll ***** you over' sayeth the Lord. God is
the smartest, and he doesn't want any Competition. Is this not an
absolutely anti-intellectual religion?"~ Frank Zappa
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| User: "towelie" |
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11 Jan 2006 08:01:06 PM |
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LC wrote:
"Josef Balluch" <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e2f3964c6b2cd10989c77@news1.on.sympatico.ca...
Cannabis, according to a study of scripture.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=5007
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/11/100708.shtml
The study appears in the latest issue of High Times magazine, so there
is an obvious ulterior motive. Even so, the story is good for a chuckle.
Loved these quotes:
"If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient anointing oil
and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers
Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered
anti-Christ."
and:
"Bennett refers to the "easy availability and long-established tradition
of cannabis in early Judaism" as further evidence of its use in
pre-Christianity rituals and healings, and says it is likely that the
oils Jesus used were "literally drenched in this potent mixture."
So...I guess this means Amsterdam is Heaven?
That's exactly what I have heard...
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aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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14 Jan 2006 04:35:18 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:01:06 -0600, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
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So...I guess this means Amsterdam is Heaven?
That's exactly what I have heard...
Forget it. Paradise is supposed to have (teams of 72) virgins. None of
them live in Amsterdam.
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| User: "erikc" |
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11 Jan 2006 09:41:26 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:49:34 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Cannabis, according to a study of scripture.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=5007
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/11/100708.shtml
The study appears in the latest issue of High Times magazine, so there
is an obvious ulterior motive. Even so, the story is good for a chuckle.
Which specific issue and page?
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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12 Jan 2006 08:38:40 AM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, erikc poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:49:34 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Cannabis, according to a study of scripture.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=5007
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/11/100708.shtml
The study appears in the latest issue of High Times magazine, so there
is an obvious ulterior motive. Even so, the story is good for a chuckle.
Which specific issue and page?
The first link claims that it is the latest issue, but the article
actually appeared in Feb 2003.
http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=31&aid=2
Regards,
Josef
Skepticism is the first step toward truth.
-- Denis Diderot
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| User: "erikc" |
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12 Jan 2006 03:23:04 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:38:40 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, erikc poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:49:34 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Cannabis, according to a study of scripture.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=5007
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/11/100708.shtml
The study appears in the latest issue of High Times magazine, so there
is an obvious ulterior motive. Even so, the story is good for a chuckle.
Which specific issue and page?
The first link claims that it is the latest issue, but the article
actually appeared in Feb 2003.
http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=31&aid=2
Regards,
Josef
Thanks. I can easily imagine that if I were covered head to toe with hash
oil, I'd probably be feeling pretty "holy" myself. :D There is also more
than a passing similarity to the so-called "flying ointments" used by the
pagans of Europe, (and those accused of being "witches") although it appears
that there the active ingredient was Aminita rather than Cannabis.
I'm going to repost the text of the article here:
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WAS JESUS A STONER?
2003-02-10
Chris Bennett
Last June, Chris Bennett addressed the issue of cannabis in the Bible. This
month, he concludes his investigation with a more detailed examination of the
cannabis-enriched anointing oil used by Jesus and his followers.
"Christ" is the Greek translation of the Hebrew "Messiah." In modern English,
this term would be translated as the "anointed one." The title "Christ" was
only placed upon he who had "God’s unction upon him."
This holy anointing oil, as described in the original Hebrew version of the
recipe in Exodus (30:22-23), contained over six pounds of kaneh-bosem, a
substance identified by respected etymologists, linguists, anthropologists,
botanists and other researchers as cannabis, extracted into about six quarts
of olive oil, along with a variety of other fragrant herbs. The ancient
anointed ones were literally drenched in this potent mixture.
Carl P. Ruck, the scholar who coined the term "entheogen," is a professor of
classical mythology at Boston University, and has researched the history of
psychoactive substances in religion for over three decades, working with such
luminaries as the father of LSD, Albert Hoffman; entheobotanist Richard Evans
Schultes, and mycologist R. Gordon Wasson. On the subject of Old Testament
cannabis use he explains:
"There can be little doubt about a role for cannabis in Judaic religion….
There is no way that so important a plant as a fiber source for textiles and
nutritive oils and one so easy to grow would have gone unnoticed; the mere
harvesting of it would have induced an entheogenic reaction."
Ruck comments further on the continuation of this practice into the early
Christian period: "Obviously the easy availability and long-established
tradition of cannabis in early Judaism… would inevitably have included it in
the [Christian] mixtures."
Although most modern people choose to smoke or eat pot, when its active
ingredients are transferred into an oil-based carrier, it can also be absorbed
through the skin, which is in fact one big organ. In the Bible’s New
Testament, Jesus baptized none of his disciples, as is practiced by the
Catholic church, but instead anointed them with this potent entheogenic oil,
sending out the 12 apostles to do the same. "And they cast out many devils,
and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them" (Mark 6:13).
Likewise, after Jesus’ passing, James suggests that anyone of the Christian
community who was sick should call to the elders to anoint him with oil in the
name of Jesus (James 5:14).
It should be understood that in the ancient world, diseases such as epilepsy
were attributed to demonic possession, and to cure somebody of such an
illness, even with the aid of certain herbs, was the same as exorcism, or
miraculously healing them. Interestingly, cannabis has been shown to be
effective in the treatment of not only epilepsy, but many of the other
ailments that Jesus and the disciples healed people of, such as skin diseases
(Matthew 8, 10, 11; Mark 1; Luke 5, 7, 17), eye problems (John 9:6-15), and
menstrual problems (Luke 8:43-48).
According to ancient Christian documents, even the healing of cripples could
be attributed to the use of the holy oil. "Thou holy oil given unto us for
sanctification… thou art the straightener of the crooked limbs" (The Acts of
Thomas).
One ancient Christian text, The Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostles, which
is older than the New Testament, estimated to have been recorded in the second
century AD, has Jesus giving the disciples an "unguent box" and a "pouch full
of medicine" with instructions for them to go into the city and heal the sick.
Jesus explains that you must heal "the bodies first" before you can "heal the
heart."
These findings shouldn’t really be all that surprising, as the medical use of
cannabis during that time is supported by the archeological record, and the
ailments described above had been treated with cannabis preparations
throughout the area for many centuries prior to the Christian era.
As Jesus and his followers began to spread the healing knowledge of cannabis
around the ancient world, the singular Christ became the plural term
"Christians," that is, those who had been smeared or anointed with the holy
oil. As the New Testament explains: "The anointing you received from him
remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing
teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not
counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him" (1 John 2:27).
The Christians, the "smeared or anointed ones," received "knowledge of all
things" by this "anointing from the Holy One" (1 John 2:20). Thereafter, they
needed no other teacher, and were endowed with their own spiritual knowledge.
Indeed, from Jesus’ own words after his initiation by John, it would appear
his own spiritual power came through the anointing:
The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me,
because the Lord has anointed me
to bring good tidings to the afflicted;
he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim liberty to the captives,
and the opening of the prison
to those who are bound;
to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor,
and the day of vengeance of our God;
to comfort all who mourn.
Although the Biblical story of Jesus’ initiation by John describes it as the
classic Catholic baptism, taking place in a form of submersion in water, the
term "baptism" itself can be seen to have connotations of "initiation," and
likely there was more to the story than is described in the Bible.
Ancient Christian scriptures indicate originally the rite was performed in
conjunction with the kaneh-bosem anointing rite, "the anointing taking place
either before or after the baptismal ceremony." Certain Christian texts that
didn’t make it into the official canon specifically state that Jesus received
the title "Christ… because of the anointing" not because of a water baptism.
NEXT PAGE: Was Jesus a Stoner? [cont]
Was Jesus a Stoner? [con't]
The controversy over baptism versus anointing with oil is apparently as old as
Christianity itself. The New Testament, from where we get our image of the
classical Jesus, was not selected as such until about 350 AD. The Roman
Catholic church fathers who put it together selected these writings from a
larger selection of texts that were collected from the numerous schools of
Christian thought that had developed over the first few centuries. Anything
that contradicted their official view of the life of Jesus was labeled heresy
and destined for the editorial flames.
By taking these outlawed Christian texts and other historical finds into
account, we can begin to separate the man Jesus from the myth. Indeed, our
modern concepts of Jesus, such as the virgin birth and the Resurrection, fall
away, and the man known to his followers as Yehowshua (a common Jewish name
meaning Jehovah-Saved) re-emerges with a wholly new message of love, light and
personal liberty.
The branches of Christianity that the outlawed texts belonged to are now known
under the collective title of Gnostics. These outlawed sects worshipped a
Jesus radically different than the one that came down to us through the Roman
Catholic church, the branch of early Christianity that rose to prominence by
force, suppressing all conflicting Christian and pagan sects and eventually
leading to the Dark Ages.
Luckily, one of these ancient Gnostics had the foresight to hide some of these
forbidden scriptures from their suppressors, and they were rediscovered in
1945. As these Gnostic texts are just as old and in some cases older than the
New Testament, unless we are to consider that might is right, then it is not
so easy to discard the revelations about Jesus and early Christianity that
they contain.
One of the most pronounced differences between the doctrines of the Roman
Catholic church and those belonging to the Gnostic Christians is "faith"
versus "knowledge." The term "Gnosis" itself is Greek for "knowledge," and
Gnostic religious practices focused on the development of spiritual knowledge
in each individual member. Alternatively, the practice of the Catholic church
emphasizes "faith"; the individual never knows God themselves, but is limited
to the descriptions and religious edicts proposed by the church and
administered at a painful cost by the hierarchy of various priests, bishops
and popes.
From the rediscovered Gnostic texts, we can see that they believed much of
their own spiritual experience came through the use of the holy oil. The
Gnostics openly criticized the Roman Catholic church for the placebo act of
baptism, which apparently had no spiritual effect. Indeed the Gnostic tractate
the Gospel of Philip records that, "The anointing (chrisma) is superior to
baptism. For from the anointing we were called ‘anointed ones’ [Christians],
not because of the baptism. And Christ also was [so] named because of the
anointing, for the Father anointed the son, and the son anointed the apostles,
and the apostles anointed us. He [therefore’ who has been anointed has the
All. He has… the Holy Spirit." "In some [Gnostic] texts… the ‘spiritual
ointment’ is a prerequisite for entry into… the highest ‘mystery’" (Rudolph
1987). Likewise, the Naasenes "claimed to be the true Christians because they
were anointed with the ‘ineffable chrism’" (Mead 1900).
In the Gnostic viewpoint, as recorded in the Gospel of Philip, the
pseudoinitiates of the empty rite of baptism "go down into the water and come
up without having received anything…. There is water in water, there is fire
in chrism" (Gospel of Philip). "The anointing with oil was the introduction of
the candidate into unfading bliss, thus becoming a Christ" (Mead 1900). "The
oil as a sign of the gift of the Spirit was quite natural within a Semitic
framework, and therefore the ceremony is probably very early…. In time the
Biblical meaning became obscured" (Chadwick 1967). The surviving Gnostic
descriptions of the effects of the anointing rite make it very clear that the
holy oil had intense psychoactive properties that prepared the recipient for
entrance into "unfading bliss."
Further, it is stated that if "one receives this unction… this person is no
longer a Christian but a Christ" (Gospel of Philip). Similarly, the Gospel of
Truth records that Jesus specifically came into their midst so that he "might
anoint them with the ointment. The ointment is the mercy of the Father… those
whom he has anointed are the ones who have become perfect."
The importance of the holy ointment amongst the early Christians is also
attested to in the apocryphal book, The Acts of Thomas, which refers to
"Indian Leaves" and equates the power of the holy oil to the "plant of
kindness": "Holy oil, given us for sanctification, hidden mystery in which the
cross was shown us, you are the unfolder of the hidden parts. You are the
humiliator of stubborn deeds. You are the one who shows the hidden treasures.
You are the plant of kindness. Let your power come… by this [unction]."
Interestingly, Gnostic texts give indications that cannabis was also burned as
incense, and used by Jesus, along with the cannabis-enriched anointing oil and
other entheogens, in complicated shamanic ceremonies.
Jesus the Initiator
In the Second Book of Ieou, Jesus tells his followers that amongst the secrets
they shall be shown is the mystery of the Five Trees, which in this case,
likely meant gaining knowledge of certain magical plants that were used as a
shamanistic catalyst in the ceremony. These same five trees were referred to
in what is possibly the oldest Christian text in existence, the Gospel of
Thomas: "There are five trees for you in Paradise… Whoever becomes acquainted
with them will not experience death." In the Gnostic view, "not experiencing
death" meant reaching a certain state of interior purification or
enlightenment, at which point the initiate would "rise from the dead," meaning
ignorance and blindness, and "never grew old and became immortal." That is to
say, he gained possession of the unbroken consciousness of his spiritual ego,
and as such realized that he was a part of the larger cosmic whole that
continued on long after the disappearance of the material body.
The Second Book of Ieou gives us a profound description of the shamanistic
ceremony that led to this higher state, through the ingestion of the "five
trees":
"The Master sets forth a place of offering… placing one wine jar on the right
and on the left, and strews certain berries and spices round the vessels; He
then… puts a certain plant in their mouths… and also another plant in their
hands, and ranges them in order round the sacrifice" (Mead 1900).
Continuing with the ritual, as in shamanistic and magical ceremonies
throughout the history and around the globe, Jesus turns his disciples to the
four corners of the world. "He then offers a prayer… [and] we are… given a
description of the Baptism of Fire. In this rite… vine-branches are used; they
are strewn with various materials of incense… A wonder is asked for in "the
fire of this fragrant incense." The nature of the wonder is not stated. Jesus
baptizes the disciples and gives them of the Eucharist sacrifice.
Next follows the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. "In this rite both the wine-jars
and vine-branches are used…. A wonder again takes place, but is not further
specified…. After this we have the Mystery of Withdrawing the Evil of the
Rulers… and [it] consists of an elaborate incense-offering… At the end of it
the disciples… have now become immortal and can follow Jesus into all spaces
whither they would go (Mead 1900).
The "wonder" contained in the incense used by Jesus in the ceremony, which so
perplexed Professor Mead more than a century ago, was presumably a reference
to its indescribable entheogenic effects. The other undefined "wonder" also
likely indicated the magical properties of the different plants used in the
ceremony and which were identified to the participants as the Mystery of the
Five Trees. (In relation to incense, it is interesting to note that according
to the rediscovered Gnostic documents themselves, the ancient initiate who hid
them, Seth, received the inspiration for doing so after inhaling fumes from
"the incense of life").
According to Professor Ruck, even the wine used in such ceremonies was likely
far more psychoactive than mere table wine" "Ancient wines were always
fortified, like the ‘strong wine’ of the Old Testament, with various herbal
additives, opium, the Solanaceae (datura, belladonna), mandrake, etc." In
these botanical references we can likely find some further candidates for the
Gnostic Christians’ "five trees."
The accounts of mandrake in Genesis and in Solomon’s Song of Songs clearly
document the long-term interest the Hebrews had with these seemingly magical
plants. That the use and knowledge of such plants were passed down by certain
branches of the faith, such as the Gnostics, is self-evident. Mandrake had
been used magically throughout the ancient world, and in "Roman times that
magic began extensively to be associated with the psychoactive properties of
the plant" (Schultes & Hofmann 1979/1992).
The addition of a powerful hallucinatory drug such as mandrake would help to
explain some of the more extreme experiences related to the holy anointings
and different baptisms described above. Some later recipes for witches’
ointments do contain both cannabis and mandrake in them, and the out-of-body
experiences attributed to the Gnostics, as well as aspects of their cosmology,
can be compared to the witches’ sabat (the different visions attained
attributable to the cultural set and setting of the ingestors).
One of the more significant and widespread Gnostic sects, the Manicheans,
performed ceremonies similar to the one that Jesus is described as presiding
over. They were condemned by the Catholic church for using "secret
sacraments." The seminal Catholic philosopher St. Augustine, a renounced
Manichean, "bitterly censured the heretic Manicheans of the Old Religion for
their fungus eating" (La Barre 1980). A number of Manicheans escaped the
persecution of the Catholic church, and the sect survived into the 12th
century in parts of Europe, where they were finally slaughtered by the armies
of the Catholic church. Quite curiously, Manicheans also lasted until the 17th
century in China, where they finally succumbed to indigenous elements of that
culture.
In medieval China, the "general opinion of their religion was that it involved
drug-induced ecstasy, for their leaders had titles like ‘spirit-king’ and
‘spirit-father’ and ‘spirit-mother,’ but the common folk deliberately
mispronounced the word for ‘spirit’ (mo) as ‘ma,’ meaning ‘cannabis sativa’
(as if ‘Pater’ were changed phonetically to ‘pothead’)" (Ruck et al. 2001).
"The Chinese also refer, in a twelfth-century text, to Manicheans who eat red
mushrooms…. The Manicheans who ate mushrooms… also used urine for ritual
water. This practice recalls that of agaric-using Paleo-Siberian tribes who
still in the last century drank the urine of the original partaker of
fly-agaric in order to extend its pharmacological action" (La Barre 1980).
(The psychoactive chemical of Amanita muscaria, the fly-agaric mushroom,
passes through the urine and can be reingested.)
In regards to the Christian use of the mushroom, Ruck explains, "The most
compelling indication that the Amanita muscaria was the Eucharistic meal in
certain early Christian agape halls comes from the mosaic fourth-century floor
preserved beneath the later basilica at Aquileia in northern Italy. In a
context of mystical Gnostic symbols, it depicts baskets of mushrooms…. This
was not a restaurant and hence the fungi… are not there as culinary
delicacies. Similarly, the well-known fondness of the Manicheans for ‘red
mushrooms’ (as well as for ‘ablutions’ with urine, the characteristic second
use of the muscaria as the metabolite) must be understood in terms of the role
of fungi in Gnostic vegetarianism." Ruck comments further that "other more
serviceable mushrooms, such as the psilocybe, could be substituted for
Amanita."
Likewise, a medieval Manichean painting contains the image of a basket in its
center, holding the "holy fruit." With its white speckles, this appears to be
more strong evidence of the Christian use of the fly-agaric mushroom.
Of course, the ancient Christian psychonauts, who used entheogens to explore
the realms of inner space, did so in a far different spirit from the majority
of people who use them today. To the Gnostics, cannabis, mushrooms, and other
substances were clearly high sacraments, a means of achieving spiritual
gnosis, and thus treated with both respect and reverence. In contrast, today’s
generally unstructured, chaotic, and unsacramental approach to "drugs" often
results in burning out at least as many people as they turn on.
Dr. Richard Strassman, who has studied the use of modern psychedelics and
their effects for almost two decades, has noted, "The problem with depending
upon one or several transformative psychedelic experiences as a ‘religious
practice’ is that there is no framework that suitably deals with everyday life
between drug sessions. The introduction of certain Amazonian hallucinogenic
plant-using churches in the West, with their sets of ritual and moral codes,
may be a new model combining ethical and psychedelic practice" (Strassman
1995).
Alternatively, and likely with more appeal, the rediscovery of hidden aspects
of early Christianity, through the study of the rediscovered Gnostic
scriptures and an analysis of their initiatory system, could well provide the
ideal basis for the ordered reintegration of these substances into the
typically Christian West. It could also yield longer-lasting and more
psychologically beneficial results for those people who choose to use them.
As for those who actively oppose them: If cannabis was one of the main
ingredients of the ancient Christian anointing oil, as history now indicates,
and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers
Christians, then to persecute those who use cannabis, could be considered
anti-Christ. That revelation that is sure to come as a shock to pious
right-wing Christians such as John Ashcroft, especially considering that
America’s anti-marijuana attorney general is known to anoint himself in the
style of Biblical kings before taking a new office—only Ashcroft, not wanting
to bother to gather rare Biblical ingredients, uses Crisco cooking oil
instead.
It is curious that the rediscovery of the ancient Gnostic documents, which
have brought these revelations about Jesus and the early church to light,
should have so closely coincided with Christian culture’s rediscovery of the
plant entheogens they used. In many ways, the appearance of these ancient
documents that represent the lost "word" of Jesus, coinciding with the
cultural reintroduction of the sacraments they used, may represent a sort of
resurrection of the Christ spirit: A spirit that contains the same power for
revolution that Jesus and the high initiates that followed him demonstrated in
the Middle East almost two millennia ago.
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Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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| User: "cloim" |
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| Title: Re: What Would Jesus Smoke? |
11 Jan 2006 09:22:59 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:49:34 -0500, Josef Balluch wrote:
Cannabis, according to a study of scripture.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=5007
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/11/100708.shtml
The study appears in the latest issue of High Times magazine, so there
is an obvious ulterior motive. Even so, the story is good for a chuckle.
Regards,
Josef
All bad things were at one time good things; every original virtue has
developed into an original sin.
-- Denny Gillespie
http://www.nomadfx.com/old/rasta1.html
"Most Rastafarian teachers, however, have advocated the controlled ritual
smoking of "wisdomweed" both privately as an aid to meditation and
communally from "chalice" pipes as an "incense pleasing to the Lord". The
argument is that ganja is the "green herb" of the King James Bible and
that its use is a kind of shortcut version of traditional ascetical
practice."
Other Christian churches with ritualized drug use:
Uniao do Vegetal, Santo Daime - ayahuasca (pending USSC decision on its
legality)
Native American Church - peyote
Catholic Church - alcohol
I've encountered others, but don't recall the specifics...
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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11 Jan 2006 04:52:00 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Josef Balluch
(josef.balluch@sympatico.can) made the light shine upon us with this:
Cannabis, according to a study of scripture.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=5007
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/11/100708.shtml
The study appears in the latest issue of High Times magazine, so there
is an obvious ulterior motive. Even so, the story is good for a chuckle.
"What are they smoking at High Times magazine?
An article in the drug-culture publication, supposedly based on a study of
"scriptural texts,” claims that Jesus was a pothead!"
Why not? Many Jesus believers see Jesus as one of them. Most of the
portraits you'll see portray him as white, but I've seen black Jesuses and
Asian Jesuses too. The readers of High Times are just following suit and
creating god in their own image.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| Title: Re: What Would Jesus Smoke? |
12 Jan 2006 01:28:05 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:52:00 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Josef Balluch
(josef.balluch@sympatico.can) made the light shine upon us with this:
Cannabis, according to a study of scripture.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=5007
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/11/100708.shtml
The study appears in the latest issue of High Times magazine, so there
is an obvious ulterior motive. Even so, the story is good for a chuckle.
"What are they smoking at High Times magazine?
An article in the drug-culture publication, supposedly based on a study of
"scriptural texts,” claims that Jesus was a pothead!"
Why not? Many Jesus believers see Jesus as one of them. Most of the
portraits you'll see portray him as white, but I've seen black Jesuses and
Asian Jesuses too. The readers of High Times are just following suit and
creating god in their own image.
Plural Jesuses? Jesi? :)
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
.
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