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"Bill" |
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08 Aug 2004 02:40:13 PM |
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What's God doing??? |
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously handicapped - no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel and
sadistic *****.
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Bill
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| User: "MrPepper11" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
08 Aug 2004 11:45:22 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously handicapped - no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel and
sadistic *****.
Your local Baptist preacher would say that bad things happen in order
that God might send better things. Like new, improved babies - Just
make new ones!!
OR, bad things happen because you're bad, in which case you freakin'
deserve them.
The actual response depends on your level of weekly contributions.
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| User: "Dore" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
11 Aug 2004 09:31:55 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel and
sadistic *****.
What makes you think that DEATH is a bad thing? Death to God is merely a
soul walking through a door from one realm to another. What makes you think
that although God may take one thing from a child and then bless them with
something greater or better is under YOUR scrutiny for judgment? Even the
most physically handicapped child, who is paraplegic, can't talk, can't
hear, can't see, etc, you don't know if angels are giving them kisses and
wonderful spiritual gifts in their spirits, minds and souls, so who are YOU
TO JUDGE GOD? What makes YOU think that your concept of what life on earth
should be is the ONLY way that you have the audacity to say such things
about God?
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> wrote in message
news:57cfd534.0408082045.80d65ac@posting.google.com...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel and
sadistic *****.
Your local Baptist preacher would say that bad things happen in order
that God might send better things. Like new, improved babies - Just
make new ones!!
OR, bad things happen because you're bad, in which case you freakin'
deserve them.
The actual response depends on your level of weekly contributions.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
12 Aug 2004 06:48:52 AM |
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vEASc.11114$AA1.10698@trndny06...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If
a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously
handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel
and
sadistic *****.
What makes you think that DEATH is a bad thing?
If you think it's so great, why haven't you killed yourself?
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| User: "sAnToLiNa" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
11 Aug 2004 09:53:06 PM |
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Dore <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vEASc.11114$AA1.10698@trndny06...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If
a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously
handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel
and
sadistic *****.
What makes you think that DEATH is a bad thing?
Notice that people the world over, including religious believers, suffer
unbearable emotional pain after the death of a loved one.
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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13 Aug 2004 10:04:31 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:53:06 -0700, "sAnToLiNa" <mystery@babylon.com> wrote:
Dore <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vEASc.11114$AA1.10698@trndny06...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If
a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously
handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel
and
sadistic *****.
What makes you think that DEATH is a bad thing?
Notice that people the world over, including religious believers, suffer
unbearable emotional pain after the death of a loved one.
One Christian told me there is no death, after telling me his father had died. Duh!
-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
11 Aug 2004 10:22:28 PM |
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Dore wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel and
sadistic *****.
What makes you think that DEATH is a bad thing? Death to God is merely a
soul walking through a door from one realm to another. What makes you think
that although God may take one thing from a child and then bless them with
something greater or better is under YOUR scrutiny for judgment? Even the
most physically handicapped child, who is paraplegic, can't talk, can't
hear, can't see, etc, you don't know if angels are giving them kisses and
wonderful spiritual gifts in their spirits, minds and souls, so who are YOU
TO JUDGE GOD? What makes YOU think that your concept of what life on earth
should be is the ONLY way that you have the audacity to say such things
about God?
--
Dore
P.U.N...............Pure Unaldulterated Nonsense
www.dorewilliamson.com
"MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> wrote in message
news:57cfd534.0408082045.80d65ac@posting.google.com...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel and
sadistic *****.
Your local Baptist preacher would say that bad things happen in order
that God might send better things. Like new, improved babies - Just
make new ones!!
OR, bad things happen because you're bad, in which case you freakin'
deserve them.
The actual response depends on your level of weekly contributions.
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
13 Aug 2004 10:14:14 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:31:55 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel and
sadistic *****.
What makes you think that DEATH is a bad thing? Death to God is merely a
soul walking through a door from one realm to another. What makes you think
that although God may take one thing from a child and then bless them with
something greater or better is under YOUR scrutiny for judgment? Even the
most physically handicapped child, who is paraplegic, can't talk, can't
hear, can't see, etc, you don't know if angels are giving them kisses and
wonderful spiritual gifts in their spirits, minds and souls, so who are YOU
TO JUDGE GOD? What makes YOU think that your concept of what life on earth
should be is the ONLY way that you have the audacity to say such things
about God?
That has to be a troll. Nobody could be that stupid.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> wrote in message
news:57cfd534.0408082045.80d65ac@posting.google.com...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel and
sadistic *****.
Your local Baptist preacher would say that bad things happen in order
that God might send better things. Like new, improved babies - Just
make new ones!!
OR, bad things happen because you're bad, in which case you freakin'
deserve them.
The actual response depends on your level of weekly contributions.
-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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14 Aug 2004 10:24:46 PM |
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Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> astounded us with:
news:mlmph05rv0adbc23v11h8g72ubsv5u8b3i@4ax.com:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:31:55 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC.
If a Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what
is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously
handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel
and sadistic *****.
What makes you think that DEATH is a bad thing? Death to God is merely a
soul walking through a door from one realm to another. What makes you
think that although God may take one thing from a child and then bless
them with something greater or better is under YOUR scrutiny for
judgment? Even the most physically handicapped child, who is paraplegic,
can't talk, can't hear, can't see, etc, you don't know if angels are
giving them kisses and wonderful spiritual gifts in their spirits, minds
and souls, so who are YOU TO JUDGE GOD? What makes YOU think that your
concept of what life on earth should be is the ONLY way that you have
the audacity to say such things about God?
That has to be a troll. Nobody could be that stupid.
Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain.
Friedrich von Schiller
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Phÿltêr
AA#1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://forums.clickhalah.com/index.php
Remove "s" to respond
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| User: "Bill" |
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13 Aug 2004 03:28:34 PM |
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Pure mythological hyperbole. Can you substantiate any of your ridiculous
claims???
--
Bill
"Doer" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vEASc.11114$AA1.10698@trndny06...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If
a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously
handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel
and
sadistic *****.
What makes you think that DEATH is a bad thing? Death to God is merely a
soul walking through a door from one realm to another. What makes you
think
that although God may take one thing from a child and then bless them with
something greater or better is under YOUR scrutiny for judgment? Even the
most physically handicapped child, who is paraplegic, can't talk, can't
hear, can't see, etc, you don't know if angels are giving them kisses and
wonderful spiritual gifts in their spirits, minds and souls, so who are
YOU
TO JUDGE GOD? What makes YOU think that your concept of what life on earth
should be is the ONLY way that you have the audacity to say such things
about God?
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> wrote in message
news:57cfd534.0408082045.80d65ac@posting.google.com...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If
a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he
doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in
accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously
handicapped -
no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the
mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel
and
sadistic *****.
Your local Baptist preacher would say that bad things happen in order
that God might send better things. Like new, improved babies - Just
make new ones!!
OR, bad things happen because you're bad, in which case you freakin'
deserve them.
The actual response depends on your level of weekly contributions.
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| User: "bob young" |
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10 Aug 2004 12:56:48 AM |
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MrPepper11 wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously handicapped - no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel and
sadistic *****.
Your local Baptist preacher would say that bad things happen in order
that God might send better things. Like new, improved babies - Just
make new ones!!
OR, bad things happen because you're bad, in which case you freakin'
deserve them.
The actual response depends on your level of weekly contributions....
....or lack of mental stamina
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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13 Aug 2004 09:59:49 AM |
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On 8 Aug 2004 21:45:22 -0700, (MrPepper11) wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<xkvRc.411307$Gx4.104288@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
An 11 year old child just drowned at a church picnic in Gafney, SC. If a
Christian child is not protected by God at a church picnic what is he doing?
Thousands of children around the world are killed and maimed in accidents
every month.
Thousands of children around the world are born seriously handicapped - no
hearing, blind, imbeciles, missing limbs etc. Many others die in the mothers
womb.
Why is God so cruel to children who are too young to be sinners???
It would appear that either God does not exist or else he is a cruel and
sadistic *****.
Your local Baptist preacher would say that bad things happen in order
that God might send better things. Like new, improved babies - Just
make new ones!!
OR, bad things happen because you're bad, in which case you freakin'
deserve them.
The actual response depends on your level of weekly contributions.
It could be that bad things happen to people who are bad because God decided to make
them bad.
-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "L Perez" |
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10 Aug 2004 03:22:55 AM |
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6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth. Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed him to do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain reaction of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him the right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
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| User: "JessHC" |
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10 Aug 2004 01:59:01 PM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth. Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed him to do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain reaction of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him the right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
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| User: "L Perez" |
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11 Aug 2004 03:20:09 AM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408101059.7cc3cff9@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth. Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
with the free will he gave you
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| User: "JessHC" |
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11 Aug 2004 10:17:42 AM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<oqednXnZNsI5S4TcRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408101059.7cc3cff9@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth. Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
with the free will he gave you
So, according to you, finite, impotent humans are more powerful than
your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will. Which pretty
much renders god unneccesary.
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| User: "L Perez" |
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12 Aug 2004 02:34:47 AM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth.
Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed
him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain
reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then
take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him
the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
with the free will he gave you
So, according to you, finite, impotent humans are more powerful than
your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will. Which pretty
much renders god unneccesary.
you are mistaken...
by choice
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| User: "JessHC" |
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12 Aug 2004 09:10:29 AM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<YoGdnctO8PzygIbcRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408110717.239d9ed7@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<oqednXnZNsI5S4TcRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408101059.7cc3cff9@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth.
Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed
him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain
reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then
take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him
the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
with the free will he gave you
So, according to you, finite, impotent humans are more powerful than
your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will. Which pretty
much renders god unneccesary.
you are mistaken...
by choice
Then you aren't claiming finite, impotent humans are more powerful
than your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will? You're
contradicting yourself... by choice, which isn't the least bit
surprizing.
.
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| User: "L Perez" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
13 Aug 2004 03:47:02 AM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408120610.7aa13c52@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<YoGdnctO8PzygIbcRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408110717.239d9ed7@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<oqednXnZNsI5S4TcRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408101059.7cc3cff9@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the
earth.
Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has
allowed
him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain
reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to
the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will
then
take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied
Him
the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
with the free will he gave you
So, according to you, finite, impotent humans are more powerful than
your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will. Which pretty
much renders god unneccesary.
you are mistaken...
by choice
Then you aren't claiming finite, impotent humans are more powerful
than your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will? You're
contradicting yourself... by choice, which isn't the least bit
surprizing.
I give God the glory...
by choice
.
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
14 Aug 2004 08:29:26 AM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<mbWdnaVg3JlC4oHcRVn-oA@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408120610.7aa13c52@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<YoGdnctO8PzygIbcRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408110717.239d9ed7@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<oqednXnZNsI5S4TcRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408101059.7cc3cff9@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the
earth.
Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has
allowed
him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain
reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to
the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will
then
take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied
Him
the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
with the free will he gave you
So, according to you, finite, impotent humans are more powerful than
your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will. Which pretty
much renders god unneccesary.
you are mistaken...
by choice
Then you aren't claiming finite, impotent humans are more powerful
than your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will? You're
contradicting yourself... by choice, which isn't the least bit
surprizing.
I give God the glory...
by choice
My response to this never showed up, so I'll give you the condensed version:
You commit the sin of pride...
by choice.
.
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| User: "L Perez" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
14 Aug 2004 04:06:32 PM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408140529.864800f@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<mbWdnaVg3JlC4oHcRVn-oA@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408120610.7aa13c52@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<YoGdnctO8PzygIbcRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408110717.239d9ed7@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<oqednXnZNsI5S4TcRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408101059.7cc3cff9@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the
earth.
Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has
allowed
him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable
chain
reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer
to
the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God
will
then
take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made
the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have
denied
Him
the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
with the free will he gave you
So, according to you, finite, impotent humans are more powerful
than
your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will. Which
pretty
much renders god unneccesary.
you are mistaken...
by choice
Then you aren't claiming finite, impotent humans are more powerful
than your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will? You're
contradicting yourself... by choice, which isn't the least bit
surprizing.
I give God the glory...
by choice
My response to this never showed up, so I'll give you the condensed
version:
You commit the sin of pride...
by choice.
irony, thy name is Jess
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
15 Aug 2004 08:30:01 AM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<x-ednYFjh4ki44PcRVn-sA@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408140529.864800f@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<mbWdnaVg3JlC4oHcRVn-oA@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408120610.7aa13c52@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<YoGdnctO8PzygIbcRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408110717.239d9ed7@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<oqednXnZNsI5S4TcRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408101059.7cc3cff9@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the
earth.
Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has
allowed
him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable
chain
reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer
to
the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God
will
then
take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made
the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have
denied
Him
the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
with the free will he gave you
So, according to you, finite, impotent humans are more powerful
than
your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will. Which
pretty
much renders god unneccesary.
you are mistaken...
by choice
Then you aren't claiming finite, impotent humans are more powerful
than your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will? You're
contradicting yourself... by choice, which isn't the least bit
surprizing.
I give God the glory...
by choice
My response to this never showed up, so I'll give you the condensed
version:
You commit the sin of pride...
by choice.
irony, thy name is Jess
You should learn what words mean before throwing them around; you'll
save yourself future embarassment. You claim to be more powerful than
the god you deign to worship, right there where you claim humans grant
god rights. Considering yourself superior to god in any way is "the
sin of pride." You then condescend to give that impotent god "glory."
That's a tad closer to the definition of "ironic."
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| User: "L Perez" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
15 Aug 2004 10:02:48 PM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408150530.743678c4@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<x-ednYFjh4ki44PcRVn-sA@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408140529.864800f@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<mbWdnaVg3JlC4oHcRVn-oA@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408120610.7aa13c52@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<YoGdnctO8PzygIbcRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408110717.239d9ed7@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<oqednXnZNsI5S4TcRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408101059.7cc3cff9@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule
the
earth.
Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God
has
allowed
him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable
chain
reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw
nearer
to
the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves.
God
will
then
take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have
made
the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have
denied
Him
the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its
rights?
with the free will he gave you
So, according to you, finite, impotent humans are more
powerful
than
your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will. Which
pretty
much renders god unneccesary.
you are mistaken...
by choice
Then you aren't claiming finite, impotent humans are more powerful
than your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will?
You're
contradicting yourself... by choice, which isn't the least bit
surprizing.
I give God the glory...
by choice
My response to this never showed up, so I'll give you the condensed
version:
You commit the sin of pride...
by choice.
irony, thy name is Jess
You should learn what words mean before throwing them around; you'll
save yourself future embarassment. You claim to be more powerful than
the god
eh???
.
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
12 Aug 2004 09:58:36 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:34:47 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408110717.239d9ed7@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<oqednXnZNsI5S4TcRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:d58e3ac.0408101059.7cc3cff9@posting.google.com...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth.
Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed
him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain
reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then
take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him
the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
with the free will he gave you
So, according to you, finite, impotent humans are more powerful than
your omniscient, omnipotent god by virtue of free will. Which pretty
much renders god unneccesary.
you are mistaken...
by choice
That is a ridiculous statement.
.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
11 Aug 2004 07:07:49 AM |
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JessHC wrote:
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<PLmdna1IlZVBGIXcRVn-qw@comcast.com>...
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth. Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed him to do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain reaction of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him the right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
How does one deny an omniscient, omnipotent being its rights?
You shouln't ask these types of difficult questions, they have a hard enough time as it is trying
to substantiate their mythology!
Bob
Hong Kong
In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at
second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the
questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions
about them were not worth a brass farthing.
[Mark Twain]
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| User: "bob young" |
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11 Aug 2004 07:05:46 AM |
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L Perez wrote:
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth. Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed him to do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain reaction of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him the right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of
morality by religion. However valuable ? even necessary ? that may have
been in enforcing good behavior on primitive peoples, their association
is now counterproductive. Yet at the very moment when they should be
decoupled, sanctimonious nitwits are calling for a return to morals
based on superstition. Arthur C. Clarke
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| User: "L Perez" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
12 Aug 2004 02:33:24 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:411A0B9A.4227D018@netvigator.com...
L Perez wrote:
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth. Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of
morality by religion. However valuable ? even necessary ? that may have
been in enforcing good behavior on primitive peoples, their association
is now counterproductive. Yet at the very moment when they should be
decoupled, sanctimonious nitwits are calling for a return to morals
based on superstition. Arthur C. Clarke
odd how some detest God for giving them a free will
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
12 Aug 2004 09:12:30 AM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<i--dnZxftcGBgIbcRVn-pw@comcast.com>...
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:411A0B9A.4227D018@netvigator.com...
L Perez wrote:
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth. Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of
morality by religion. However valuable ? even necessary ? that may have
been in enforcing good behavior on primitive peoples, their association
is now counterproductive. Yet at the very moment when they should be
decoupled, sanctimonious nitwits are calling for a return to morals
based on superstition. Arthur C. Clarke
odd how some detest God for giving them a free will
What's even more odd is how some think an omniscient god could grant free will.
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
12 Aug 2004 06:19:16 AM |
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In alt.atheism on Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:33:24 -0700, "L Perez"
<LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:411A0B9A.4227D018@netvigator.com...
L Perez wrote:
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth. Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed him to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of
morality by religion. However valuable ? even necessary ? that may have
been in enforcing good behavior on primitive peoples, their association
is now counterproductive. Yet at the very moment when they should be
decoupled, sanctimonious nitwits are calling for a return to morals
based on superstition. Arthur C. Clarke
odd how some detest God for giving them a free will
Impossible if god is omniscient and created everything.
Don
---
aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "L Perez" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
13 Aug 2004 03:40:48 AM |
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"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
news:7rkmh05sej58aaq9h4iknd8kku5sqlg4bb@4ax.com...
In alt.atheism on Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:33:24 -0700, "L Perez"
<LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:411A0B9A.4227D018@netvigator.com...
L Perez wrote:
6,000 years ago, man decided he did not want God to rule the earth.
Man
decided that he wanted to rule the world himself. God has allowed him
to
do
this but as we speed closer and closer to the inevitable chain
reaction
of
nuclear, atmospheric destruction we congruently draw nearer to the
crucible
of proving that we are incapable of ruling ourselves. God will then
take
back what is rightly His and give it to those who have made the
unpopular
choice (in todays world) of serving Him. Those who have denied Him
the
right
to rule the universe He created will be removed forever.
The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking
of
morality by religion. However valuable ? even necessary ? that may have
been in enforcing good behavior on primitive peoples, their association
is now counterproductive. Yet at the very moment when they should be
decoupled, sanctimonious nitwits are calling for a return to morals
based on superstition. Arthur C. Clarke
odd how some detest God for giving them a free will
Impossible if god is omniscient and created everything.
there is no logic in your position and as for your foul language, you can
keep that also
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: What's God doing??? |
13 Aug 2004 12:50:03 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 01:40:48 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
news:7rkmh05sej58aaq9h4iknd8kku5sqlg4bb@4ax.com...
snip
odd how some detest God for giving them a free will
Impossible if god is omniscient and created everything.
there is no logic in your position and as for your foul language, you can
keep that also
It makes perfect sense. All powerful necessarily means all
responsible.
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