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"J Young" |
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31 Jan 2005 10:52:25 PM |
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What's to look foward to? |
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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31 Jan 2005 11:57:12 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Get your AOL-smelling ***** off my USEnet, boy.
I look forward to THAT.
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Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur, nor?
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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01 Feb 2005 02:20:05 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
You say that as though it's a bad thing. Have you got something
against the food chain? Sorry to have to tell you, but that's all
you have to look forward to, also. Unless, of course, you plan to
leave your body to science which will also put it to good use. Or,
you could simply be cremated.
Life is just matter and energy - two forms of the same thing. It's
what we start out with, live as and die as. Learn to live with this.
Christians like you fear death so much that you make your life a
living hell. You waste so much of your lives worrying uselessly
about this that you forget to live. Your religious fears ruin the
only life you'll ever have. Atheists don't worry uselessly about
death. We live.
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01 Feb 2005 12:13:03 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Actually I'm going to be cremated.
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| User: "stoney" |
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03 Feb 2005 11:38:13 AM |
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:13:03 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Actually I'm going to be cremated.
Buried at sea.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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03 Feb 2005 06:21:30 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:38:13 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:13:03 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Actually I'm going to be cremated.
Buried at sea.
I can't decide, so I'll just live forever.
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"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Feb 2005 07:32:52 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 00:21:30 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:38:13 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:13:03 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Actually I'm going to be cremated.
Buried at sea.
I can't decide, so I'll just live forever.
(chuckling) If that's now an option, subject to later personal
change, please send me the updated forms..... :)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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04 Feb 2005 10:40:20 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 17:32:52 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 00:21:30 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:38:13 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:13:03 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Actually I'm going to be cremated.
Buried at sea.
I can't decide, so I'll just live forever.
(chuckling) If that's now an option, subject to later personal
change, please send me the updated forms..... :)
www.imortality.org/imortality.pdf
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"Nothing in biology makes sense without evolution."
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| User: "stoney" |
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05 Feb 2005 02:29:12 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 04:40:20 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 17:32:52 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 00:21:30 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:38:13 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:13:03 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Actually I'm going to be cremated.
Buried at sea.
I can't decide, so I'll just live forever.
(chuckling) If that's now an option, subject to later personal
change, please send me the updated forms..... :)
www.imortality.org/imortality.pdf
Heheheheh...smart alec!
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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01 Feb 2005 10:43:52 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:1107233544.983118.46500
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
What's so valuable about wasting your life believing in some fictional god
and non-existent heaven?
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Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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31 Jan 2005 11:42:38 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:1107233544.983118.46500
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Looking forward to something that really won't happen is just deluding
yourself into happiness. Why not smoke a joint and buzz yourdelf to
happiness instead?
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Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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| User: "Sam" |
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31 Jan 2005 11:48:02 PM |
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Enkidu wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:1107233544.983118.46500
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Looking forward to something that really won't happen is just deluding
yourself into happiness. Why not smoke a joint and buzz yourdelf to
happiness instead?
you holdin', bro?
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Sam
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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01 Feb 2005 07:12:18 AM |
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In alt.atheism on 31 Jan 2005 20:52:25 -0800, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> let us all know that:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
So?
You make it sound like that's a bad thing.
Silly you.
Don
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Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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01 Feb 2005 06:05:29 AM |
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In article <1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Why do you need to make up fairytales in order to look forward to
something?
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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01 Feb 2005 08:34:10 AM |
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BTR1701 <btr1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:btr1702-AC2451.07052901022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food,
that's it.
Why do you need to make up fairytales in order to look forward to
something?
'Cuz their religion makes life so unpleasant in the here and now, they
could never push it on people without promising something to make life
worth living. The sad part is, life IS worth living in the here and
now. They just can't see it.
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Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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01 Feb 2005 12:34:57 AM |
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In article <1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Did you intend this as an argument leading to any particular conclusion?
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David Canzi
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01 Feb 2005 08:17:00 AM |
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In our last episode
<1107233544.983118.46500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, J Young lumbered
into the room and mumbled:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere when
they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's it.
You mean all of us can look forward to being worm food. Some of us just
make up stories like five year olds because we're scared of the dark...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
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01 Feb 2005 10:18:14 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
STY was obviously one of the "wise" ones. :)
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
www.elroysemporium.com/news
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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01 Feb 2005 08:21:15 PM |
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In our last episode <upavv0pjm5b81s9o0dfvbnd9ussoeu775d@4ax.com>, Elroy
Willis lumbered into the room and mumbled:
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca the
Younger
STY was obviously one of the "wise" ones. :)
Funny how the game hasn't changed. Not even after all those centuries...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
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01 Feb 2005 01:44:53 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
I can look forward to a long and happy life spent with family and
friends, helping teach the next generation and thus improve their
lives (and the lives of all they touch - for instance, when my wife
was ill some years ago one of her nurses at the hospital was one
of my former students).
And at the end of that, when I am old and tired, I can look forward
to a peaceful end.
Christians, on the other hand, can look forward to many of their
friends and family being sent to eternal torment by the being
they have chosen to serve for eternity. Frankly, serving such
a being doesn't sound like much of a bargain - the peaceful
end sounds far better.
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| User: "stoney" |
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03 Feb 2005 11:34:10 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 07:44:53 GMT, (Abner
Mintz) wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
I can look forward to a long and happy life spent with family and
friends, helping teach the next generation and thus improve their
lives (and the lives of all they touch - for instance, when my wife
was ill some years ago one of her nurses at the hospital was one
of my former students).
And at the end of that, when I am old and tired, I can look forward
to a peaceful end.
Christians, on the other hand, can look forward to many of their
friends and family being sent to eternal torment by the being
they have chosen to serve for eternity. Frankly, serving such
a being doesn't sound like much of a bargain - the peaceful
end sounds far better.
Don't forget them personally being tortured for eternity. Such is
good and loving.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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31 Jan 2005 11:24:08 PM |
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J Young wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die.
Isn't that special for them!
Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's it.
I am looking forward to donating organs and being cremated, though it
may disappoint the worms.
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John Popelish
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31 Jan 2005 11:39:50 PM |
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John Popelish wrote:
J Young wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die.
Isn't that special for them!
Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's it.
I am looking forward to donating organs and being cremated, though it
may disappoint the worms.
i got a letter from the worms asking me to convert and join the parture
to save them the indigestion
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Sam
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01 Feb 2005 05:59:12 AM |
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J Young wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die.
No they can't. They just think they can.
Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
And so can non-atheists. So forget about it and get on with your life.
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| User: "stoney" |
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03 Feb 2005 11:35:33 AM |
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On 1 Feb 2005 03:59:12 -0800, wrote:
J Young wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die.
No they can't. They just think they can.
Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
And so can non-atheists. So forget about it and get on with your life.
The moron has no life.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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01 Feb 2005 03:29:12 PM |
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J Young wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food,
that's
it.
Beliefs have nothing to do with "looking forward to" anything. Beliefs
are not choices, desires, or preferences. People only believe things
that look true. God does not look true.
--Billy
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31 Jan 2005 11:39:19 PM |
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J Young wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
at least atheists dont waste time concerning themselves with fantasies
to relieve their fear of death.
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Sam
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01 Feb 2005 01:10:00 AM |
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On 31 Jan 2005 20:52:25 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Actually, my body is being donated to Stanford University's school of
medicine. My final act on Earth will be helping to train the next
generation of healers; the same healers who helped me survive cancer.
As for the entity known Douglas E. Berry - I'll have ceased to exist.
I don't particulary like this thought, like any human I'm an
egotistical son-of-a-*****, but I accept it.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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01 Feb 2005 01:28:39 AM |
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On 31 Jan 2005 20:52:25 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die.
Which is irrelevant to the truth or falsity of such a belief.
Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Which is again, irrelevant.
Your point was...?
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01 Feb 2005 05:36:11 AM |
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On 31 Jan 2005 20:52:25 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Death is not something to look forward to. You can get all kinds of
strange ideas when you believe that 99 virgins are awaiting you on the
other side.
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We give meaning to each other
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01 Feb 2005 06:03:14 AM |
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DJ Nozem wrote:
On 31 Jan 2005 20:52:25 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
At least those who believe in God can look foward to going somewhere
when they die. Atheists can only look foward to being worm food, that's
it.
Death is not something to look forward to. You can get all kinds of
strange ideas when you believe that 99 virgins are awaiting you on the
other side.
What I find funny about these, "you have nothing to look forward to
after death" arguments, is that, fundys are in the same boat. They just
don't realize it, or, more accurately, don't want to realize it.
But we are all headed towards the same fate. There is no after life, no
heaven, hell, purgatory, limbo, what have you. There is just the long,
slow process of returning to the universe, in raw form, to be recycled
into something else.
I figure it this way. If I'm young enough, when I die, spread my parts
as far as possible, to help as many as possible, continue to live.
Then, take what's left, cremate it, put it in a sky rocket, and launch
my ashes on August 4th of what ever year. Kind of speed the process up
that way, and I get to go out again, with a bang.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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