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16 Jan 2006 04:44:16 PM |
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What's wrong with these people? |
New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S.
By BRETT MARTEL, Associated Press Writer 51 minutes ago
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other
storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities,
too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.
"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after
hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin, who is
black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.
"Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But
surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of
ourselves."
Nagin also promised that New Orleans will be a "chocolate" city again. Many
of the city's black neighborhoods were heavily damaged by Katrina.
"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New
Orleans - the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said.
"This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants
it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New
Orleans."
Nagin described an imaginary conversation with King, the late civil rights
leader.
"I said, `What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream and
make it a reality?' He said, `I don't think that we need to pay attention
any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He said,
`The thing we need to focus on as a community - black folks I'm talking
about - is ourselves.'"
Nagin said he also asked: "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why do
our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the
face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"
The reply, Nagin said, was: "We as a people need to fix ourselves first."
Nagin also said King would have been dismayed with black leaders who are
"most of the time tearing each other down publicly for the delight of many."
A day earlier, gunfire erupted at a parade to commemorate King's birthday.
Three people were wounded in the daylight shooting amid a throng of mostly
black spectators, but police said there were no immediate suspects or
witnesses.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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16 Jan 2006 08:17:42 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net:
New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S.
By BRETT MARTEL, Associated Press Writer 51 minutes ago
What is wrong with these people? They are either ignorant or stupid. One
can be fixed while the other cannot.
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| User: "stoney" |
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21 Jan 2006 05:51:40 PM |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:17:42 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
<spamsucks@google.com> wrote in alt.atheism
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net:
New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S.
By BRETT MARTEL, Associated Press Writer 51 minutes ago
What is wrong with these people? They are either ignorant or stupid. One
can be fixed while the other cannot.
Don't forget 'both.'
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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16 Jan 2006 07:51:31 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in news:432lu0F1hkptvU1
@individual.net:
New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S.
By BRETT MARTEL, Associated Press Writer 51 minutes ago
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and
other
storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities,
too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.
Good, I'm glad it wasn't the trade winds that move hurricanes. We already
have enough problems with trade from Europe and Africa.
"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after
hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin, who
is
black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.
"Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But
surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of
ourselves."
Now hold on there. El Jefe, our banana republic dicator in chief, knows
we are in Iraq totally legally. Just ask him. He talks to God all the
time, and God talks back.
Nagin also promised that New Orleans will be a "chocolate" city again.
Many
of the city's black neighborhoods were heavily damaged by Katrina.
"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New
Orleans - the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor
said.
"This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God
wants
it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New
Orleans."
It's the way God wants it. FINALLY, a Christian who does not say 'God works
in strange and mysterious ways'.
Nagin described an imaginary conversation with King, the late civil
rights
leader.
"I said, `What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream
and
make it a reality?' He said, `I don't think that we need to pay attention
any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He
said,
`The thing we need to focus on as a community - black folks I'm talking
about - is ourselves.'"
Nagin said he also asked: "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why
do
our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the
face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"
The reply, Nagin said, was: "We as a people need to fix ourselves first."
I guess the coupon expired and God no longer helps those who help
themselves.
Too bad.
Nagin also said King would have been dismayed with black leaders who are
"most of the time tearing each other down publicly for the delight of
many."
A day earlier, gunfire erupted at a parade to commemorate King's
birthday.
Three people were wounded in the daylight shooting amid a throng of
mostly
black spectators, but police said there were no immediate suspects or
witnesses.
Is there a better example of Heinlein's great line
Religion is a crutch for those unable to stand up and face the
unknown alone.
Really, really sad.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims
may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber
barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's
cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be
satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment
us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own
conscience.
-- (C.)live (S.)taples Lewis (1898-1963) in "God in the Dock"
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| User: "stoney" |
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21 Jan 2006 05:51:03 PM |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:51:31 GMT, HotelCharlieOne
<Hotel_Charliie_One@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in news:432lu0F1hkptvU1
@individual.net:
New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S.
By BRETT MARTEL, Associated Press Writer 51 minutes ago
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and
other
storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities,
too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.
Good, I'm glad it wasn't the trade winds that move hurricanes. We already
have enough problems with trade from Europe and Africa.
Shrub should take the trade winds to task and reduce the blowhard
excess...
"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after
hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin, who
is
black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.
"Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But
surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of
ourselves."
Now hold on there. El Jefe, our banana republic dicator in chief, knows
we are in Iraq totally legally. Just ask him. He talks to God all the
time, and God talks back.
Indeed. Shrub is Looney Tunes.
Nagin also promised that New Orleans will be a "chocolate" city again.
Many
of the city's black neighborhoods were heavily damaged by Katrina.
"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New
Orleans - the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor
said.
"This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God
wants
it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New
Orleans."
It's the way God wants it. FINALLY, a Christian who does not say 'God works
in strange and mysterious ways'.
He did, via implication.
Nagin described an imaginary conversation with King, the late civil
rights
leader.
"I said, `What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream
and
make it a reality?' He said, `I don't think that we need to pay attention
any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He
said,
`The thing we need to focus on as a community - black folks I'm talking
about - is ourselves.'"
Nagin said he also asked: "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why
do
our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the
face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"
The reply, Nagin said, was: "We as a people need to fix ourselves first."
I guess the coupon expired and God no longer helps those who help
themselves. Too bad.
So much for belief in "Jesus' Promises."
He also forgot; "Divine Plan" and "Greater Good."
Nagin also said King would have been dismayed with black leaders who are
"most of the time tearing each other down publicly for the delight of
many."
A day earlier, gunfire erupted at a parade to commemorate King's
birthday.
Three people were wounded in the daylight shooting amid a throng of
mostly
black spectators, but police said there were no immediate suspects or
witnesses.
Is there a better example of Heinlein's great line
Religion is a crutch for those unable to stand up and face the
unknown alone.
Exactly.
Really, really sad.
It is.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Mike Smith" |
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16 Jan 2006 07:27:24 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S.
By BRETT MARTEL, Associated Press Writer
51 minutes ago
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes
Katrina and Rita and other storms were a sign that
"God is mad at America" and at black communities,
too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and
political infighting.
Estimated Nagin IQ: 75.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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16 Jan 2006 11:00:53 PM |
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In <432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
What's wrong with these people?
Who? Nagin? That's just Nagin being Nagin. He is a politician after all.
He's also been taking a *lot* of heat from the black community over the
footprint issue...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Charity hospital closes for good
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F3D51207C
A city on hold
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y3E55207C
If Katrina was a "judgment," god hates poor people
and churches but loves a good party...
http://www.nola.com/mardigras/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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17 Jan 2006 09:59:25 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:7vGdnWmE9POY51HeRVn-qw@megapath.net...
In <432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
What's wrong with these people?
Who? Nagin? That's just Nagin being Nagin. He is a politician after all.
I guess. It just seems like an incredibly ignorant thing to say.
He's also been taking a *lot* of heat from the black community over the
footprint issue...
Footprint issue?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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17 Jan 2006 11:28:35 AM |
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In <434ig2F1lon2gU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:7vGdnWmE9POY51HeRVn-qw@megapath.net...
In <432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
What's wrong with these people?
Who? Nagin? That's just Nagin being Nagin. He is a politician after all.
I guess. It just seems like an incredibly ignorant thing to say.
Well, he's a politician and the black church community is a significant
constituency in the city. Yeah, he's pandering. Trying to be all
Inspiring! and Significant! on MLK day.
At the same time, New Orleans has been--for a long time--one of the most
liberal, tolerant cities around. And actions tend to speak louder than
words. Nagin *also has been very supportive of Southern Decadence--the
big, "gay Mardi Gras" the religious reich hates so much.
Sometimes, with Nagin, I just roll my eyes and move on.
I also tend to cut him some slack as he's one of the very few mayors in US
history who's been forced to preside over the near total destruction of
his city. People sometimes ***** he can act a bit goofy. Well, yeah. Then
again, the pressure he's been under, I'm surprised he's not chasing
invisible pink bats through the streets.
He's also been taking a *lot* of heat from the black community over the
footprint issue...
Footprint issue?
Big, nasty fight going on now over shrinking the city. The latest plan
published in the paper shows a major retreat in the size of New Orleans. A
lot of people are taking the plan to mean "shrink the black population."
I don't agree with them that the *plan is racist. What racism there is to
be found would be found in why blacks ended up living in flood prone areas
like the 9th Ward to *begin with. That's a different issue. Reality is,
some areas of the city are *so damaged, they're not worth rebuilding. And
some are risky enough areas, why would you *want to move back there?
I dunno. Some of the people bitching right now make *no damn sense to me.
Do they really want to be the only person rebuilding in their
neighborhood? If all their neighbors are going to level their houses and
move on?
I know people get attached to places but, come on. You should *see some of
the areas around the city. Speaking of which...
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
One of my, well, favorites (?) is this one:
http://shorterlink.com/?8QVQ6Q
or:
http://www.nola.com/cgi-bin/prxy/photogalleries/nph-cache.cgi/cache=3000;/nola/images/4866/housecamper-01.jpg
And this--Lakeview--is one of the better neighborhoods...
http://shorterlink.com/?H5AP84
Okay, *used to be one of the better neighborhoods. How many of their
neighbors do people think are coming back to areas like that?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Charity hospital closes for good
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F3D51207C
A city on hold
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y3E55207C
If Katrina was a "judgment," god hates poor people
and churches but loves a good party...
http://www.nola.com/mardigras/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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17 Jan 2006 01:55:30 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ud6dnRtrm6vetFDeRVn-iA@megapath.net...
In <434ig2F1lon2gU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:7vGdnWmE9POY51HeRVn-qw@megapath.net...
In <432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
What's wrong with these people?
Who? Nagin? That's just Nagin being Nagin. He is a politician after all.
I guess. It just seems like an incredibly ignorant thing to say.
Well, he's a politician and the black church community is a significant
constituency in the city. Yeah, he's pandering. Trying to be all
Inspiring! and Significant! on MLK day.
Oh brother <rolls eyes> :P
At the same time, New Orleans has been--for a long time--one of the most
liberal, tolerant cities around. And actions tend to speak louder than
words. Nagin *also has been very supportive of Southern Decadence--the
big, "gay Mardi Gras" the religious reich hates so much.
Sometimes, with Nagin, I just roll my eyes and move on.
LOL - See above :)
I also tend to cut him some slack as he's one of the very few mayors in US
history who's been forced to preside over the near total destruction of
his city. People sometimes ***** he can act a bit goofy. Well, yeah. Then
again, the pressure he's been under, I'm surprised he's not chasing
invisible pink bats through the streets.
He's also been taking a *lot* of heat from the black community over the
footprint issue...
Footprint issue?
Big, nasty fight going on now over shrinking the city. The latest plan
published in the paper shows a major retreat in the size of New Orleans. A
lot of people are taking the plan to mean "shrink the black population."
Oh dear :(
I don't agree with them that the *plan is racist. What racism there is to
be found would be found in why blacks ended up living in flood prone areas
like the 9th Ward to *begin with. That's a different issue. Reality is,
some areas of the city are *so damaged, they're not worth rebuilding. And
some are risky enough areas, why would you *want to move back there?
Where are these people going to go then? Do you think a lot of them will
stay in Texas (much to Barbara Bush's dismay)?
I dunno. Some of the people bitching right now make *no damn sense to me.
Do they really want to be the only person rebuilding in their
neighborhood? If all their neighbors are going to level their houses and
move on?
I know people get attached to places but, come on. You should *see some of
the areas around the city. Speaking of which...
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
One of my, well, favorites (?) is this one:
http://shorterlink.com/?8QVQ6Q
GAH!
or:
http://www.nola.com/cgi-bin/prxy/photogalleries/nph-cache.cgi/cache=3000;/nola/images/4866/housecamper-01.jpg
And this--Lakeview--is one of the better neighborhoods...
http://shorterlink.com/?H5AP84
Wow, what a mess :(
Okay, *used to be one of the better neighborhoods. How many of their
neighbors do people think are coming back to areas like that?
I don't know if I would
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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17 Jan 2006 04:48:39 PM |
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In <4350anF1kqao3U1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ud6dnRtrm6vetFDeRVn-iA@megapath.net...
In <434ig2F1lon2gU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:7vGdnWmE9POY51HeRVn-qw@megapath.net...
<snerp>
<mind the attributions, I'm not sure they're right>
He's also been taking a *lot* of heat from the black community over
the footprint issue...
Footprint issue?
Big, nasty fight going on now over shrinking the city. The latest plan
published in the paper shows a major retreat in the size of New Orleans.
A lot of people are taking the plan to mean "shrink the black
population."
Oh dear :(
I don't agree with them that the *plan is racist. What racism there is
to be found would be found in why blacks ended up living in flood prone
areas like the 9th Ward to *begin with. That's a different issue.
Reality is, some areas of the city are *so damaged, they're not worth
rebuilding. And some are risky enough areas, why would you *want to move
back there?
Where are these people going to go then? Do you think a lot of them will
stay in Texas (much to Barbara Bush's dismay)?
I'm afraid--for better or worse or whatever--the poorest are scattered for
good. It would take a large public works rebuilding project to bring them
back and this admin and administration aren't going to do that.
Like every other time Bush has given a big speech, he's sat back and let
Congressional Republicans hack and slash at the thing he said he
supported. The Republicans have made it clear we should've thought of that
before we let a hurricane hit us and Blanco is a big poopy head.
I dunno. Some of the people bitching right now make *no damn sense to
me. Do they really want to be the only person rebuilding in their
neighborhood? If all their neighbors are going to level their houses and
move on?
I know people get attached to places but, come on. You should *see some
of the areas around the city. Speaking of which...
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
One of my, well, favorites (?) is this one:
http://shorterlink.com/?8QVQ6Q
GAH!
To put it mildly. <g>
Lots of cars on things pictures around. We should do a "Cars On Things"
exhibit. <g>
or:
http://www.nola.com/cgi-bin/prxy/photogalleries/nph-cache.cgi/cache=3000;/nola/images/4866/housecamper-01.jpg
And this--Lakeview--is one of the better neighborhoods...
http://shorterlink.com/?H5AP84
Wow, what a mess :(
Okay, *used to be one of the better neighborhoods. How many of their
neighbors do people think are coming back to areas like that?
I don't know if I would
Yeah. While I can understand being fond of your house, do the squawkers
want to live in *that for the years its going to take to clean those
messes up? And would you want to be the *only house in the neighborhood
that's rebuilt?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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18 Jan 2006 08:46:18 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:sZqdnS5U9Yna6VDeRVn-uQ@megapath.net...
In <4350anF1kqao3U1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
snip
Where are these people going to go then? Do you think a lot of them will
stay in Texas (much to Barbara Bush's dismay)?
I'm afraid--for better or worse or whatever--the poorest are scattered for
good. It would take a large public works rebuilding project to bring them
back and this admin and administration aren't going to do that.
Oh, definitely not :/
Like every other time Bush has given a big speech, he's sat back and let
Congressional Republicans hack and slash at the thing he said he
supported. The Republicans have made it clear we should've thought of that
before we let a hurricane hit us and Blanco is a big poopy head.
I dunno. Some of the people bitching right now make *no damn sense to
me. Do they really want to be the only person rebuilding in their
neighborhood? If all their neighbors are going to level their houses and
move on?
I know people get attached to places but, come on. You should *see some
of the areas around the city. Speaking of which...
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
One of my, well, favorites (?) is this one:
http://shorterlink.com/?8QVQ6Q
GAH!
To put it mildly. <g>
Lots of cars on things pictures around. We should do a "Cars On Things"
exhibit. <g>
Yeah, you definitely have enough material. That is wild!
or:
http://www.nola.com/cgi-bin/prxy/photogalleries/nph-cache.cgi/cache=3000;/nola/images/4866/housecamper-01.jpg
And this--Lakeview--is one of the better neighborhoods...
http://shorterlink.com/?H5AP84
Wow, what a mess :(
Okay, *used to be one of the better neighborhoods. How many of their
neighbors do people think are coming back to areas like that?
I don't know if I would
Yeah. While I can understand being fond of your house, do the squawkers
want to live in *that for the years its going to take to clean those
messes up? And would you want to be the *only house in the neighborhood
that's rebuilt?
Definitely not - Think that would make you a prime target for something
unsavory :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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21 Jan 2006 05:55:58 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:46:18 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:sZqdnS5U9Yna6VDeRVn-uQ@megapath.net...
In <4350anF1kqao3U1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
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And this--Lakeview--is one of the better neighborhoods...
http://shorterlink.com/?H5AP84
Wow, what a mess :(
Okay, *used to be one of the better neighborhoods. How many of their
neighbors do people think are coming back to areas like that?
I don't know if I would
Yeah. While I can understand being fond of your house, do the squawkers
want to live in *that for the years its going to take to clean those
messes up? And would you want to be the *only house in the neighborhood
that's rebuilt?
Definitely not - Think that would make you a prime target for something
unsavory :(
....based on Christian brand morality.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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18 Jan 2006 10:41:10 AM |
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In <434ig2F1lon2gU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:7vGdnWmE9POY51HeRVn-qw@megapath.net...
In <432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
What's wrong with these people?
Who? Nagin? That's just Nagin being Nagin. He is a politician after all.
I guess. It just seems like an incredibly ignorant thing to say.
Well, he's eating his words like crazy now. Rose dubbed him "Mayor
Wonka of the Chocolate City." And *everybody's mad at him.
(http://www.nola.com today--the 18th--if anybody's interested)
Though I'm still just kind of snickering. I'm rather fond of Nagin. Always
have been. He's not a *bad mayor. In fact his biggest "flaw" may be he's
not a career politician. And he frequently shoots himself in the foot
trying to play "politician." This one, though, may cost him his job.
Somebody, months ago, should've grabbed him by the collar and said "Get!
A! Speech! Writer!" His extemporaneous speechifying is much too "bull in a
china shop."
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Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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16 Jan 2006 05:13:21 PM |
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In article <432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other
storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities,
too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.
<sigh>
I thought he had at least a LITTLE more sense than to talk like that...
Though -- I can't help wondering if anyone in Texas or Oklahoma, that
have been pushed out by the fires is thinking the same sort of thing?
What horrible things have Oklahomans done to get GAWD! so mad at them
that he sent all these fires at them?
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "towelie" |
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16 Jan 2006 08:53:33 PM |
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*nemo* wrote:
In article <432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and
other storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black
communities, too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and
political infighting.
<sigh>
I thought he had at least a LITTLE more sense than to talk like that...
Though -- I can't help wondering if anyone in Texas or Oklahoma, that
have been pushed out by the fires is thinking the same sort of thing?
What horrible things have Oklahomans done to get GAWD! so mad at them
that he sent all these fires at them?
It's them evil Injuns. They have the audacity to not have creamy white
skin.
--
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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16 Jan 2006 09:04:07 PM |
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In article <nemo0037-215D8F.18111316012006@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other
storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities,
too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.
<sigh>
I thought he had at least a LITTLE more sense than to talk like that...
Though -- I can't help wondering if anyone in Texas or Oklahoma, that
have been pushed out by the fires is thinking the same sort of thing?
What horrible things have Oklahomans done to get GAWD! so mad at them
that he sent all these fires at them?
Oklahoma is punishment enough, don't you think?
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "stoney" |
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21 Jan 2006 05:44:34 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:04:07 -0800, chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
In article <nemo0037-215D8F.18111316012006@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other
storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities,
too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.
<sigh>
I thought he had at least a LITTLE more sense than to talk like that...
Though -- I can't help wondering if anyone in Texas or Oklahoma, that
have been pushed out by the fires is thinking the same sort of thing?
What horrible things have Oklahomans done to get GAWD! so mad at them
that he sent all these fires at them?
Oklahoma is punishment enough, don't you think?
<rimshot>
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "stoney" |
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21 Jan 2006 05:44:09 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:13:21 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <432lu0F1hkptvU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other
storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities,
too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.
<sigh>
I thought he had at least a LITTLE more sense than to talk like that...
Though -- I can't help wondering if anyone in Texas or Oklahoma, that
have been pushed out by the fires is thinking the same sort of thing?
What horrible things have Oklahomans done to get GAWD! so mad at them
that he sent all these fires at them?
Nothing, of course. Just like 'Job.'
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "towelie" |
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16 Jan 2006 08:53:03 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S.
By BRETT MARTEL, Associated Press Writer 51 minutes ago
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and
other storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black
communities, too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and
political infighting.
And I had a lot of respect for Mr. Nagin. I'll have to reevaluate him in
light of this.
--
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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16 Jan 2006 10:59:26 PM |
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In <KomdneVb8JaTwVHenZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@centurytel.net>, "towelie"
<bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S. By BRETT MARTEL, Associated Press
Writer 51 minutes ago
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and
other storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black
communities, too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and
political infighting.
And I had a lot of respect for Mr. Nagin. I'll have to reevaluate him in
light of this.
Oh he's just being a politician. Hate to say it but the church community
of the city is influential politically and he's definitely not going to
risk pissing them off.
They actually had quite a spat a year or so ago...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Charity hospital closes for good
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F3D51207C
A city on hold
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y3E55207C
If Katrina was a "judgment," god hates poor people
and churches but loves a good party...
http://www.nola.com/mardigras/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: What's wrong with these people? |
16 Jan 2006 05:14:02 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S.
By BRETT MARTEL, Associated Press Writer 51 minutes ago
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other
storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities,
too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.
"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after
hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin, who is
black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.
"Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But
surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of
ourselves."
Nagin also promised that New Orleans will be a "chocolate" city again. Many
of the city's black neighborhoods were heavily damaged by Katrina.
"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New
Orleans - the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said.
"This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants
it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New
Orleans."
Nagin described an imaginary conversation with King, the late civil rights
leader.
"I said, `What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream and
make it a reality?' He said, `I don't think that we need to pay attention
any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He said,
`The thing we need to focus on as a community - black folks I'm talking
about - is ourselves.'"
Nagin said he also asked: "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why do
our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the
face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"
The reply, Nagin said, was: "We as a people need to fix ourselves first."
Nagin also said King would have been dismayed with black leaders who are
"most of the time tearing each other down publicly for the delight of many."
A day earlier, gunfire erupted at a parade to commemorate King's birthday.
Three people were wounded in the daylight shooting amid a throng of mostly
black spectators, but police said there were no immediate suspects or
witnesses.
Ignoring the Pat Robertsonesque Gawd-is-angry garbage, I will have to
say that he made some welcome remarks later in this piece. In
particular, I am glad to hear him speak on black-on-black crime and an
increased sense of communal responsibility for advancement. I strongly
believe that *institutionalized* racism is a thing of the past in this
country. We can thank Dr. King for his wonderful part in righting these
injustices. Individuals will always resort to putting down others over
the most trivial of differences (such as ethnicity) to assuage their own
personal failings. However, I think that we have effectively overcome
disadvantages in housing, employment, education and government access
(in some cases we have overcompensated so that it is the majority who is
occasionally disadvantaged).
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