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"Richard" |
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04 Jan 2006 12:09:58 PM |
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what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
For me, for first thing that always comes
to mind is the question: if there was an
all-powerful god who loves us, why are there
so many different religions in the world?
It seems to me that an omipotent god who
had a personal interest in us would make
his existence and message self-evident and
undeniable, as much of a constant and as obvious
as the sun in the sky. He most certainly would
not need for us to rely on ancient, self-contradictory
religious texts of questionable authorship and
interpretation to gain knowledge of him.
Richard
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
04 Jan 2006 03:38:28 PM |
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"Richard" <richard@nospam.edu> wrote in message
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For me, for first thing that always comes
to mind is the question: if there was an
all-powerful god who loves us, why are there
so many different religions in the world?
It seems to me that an omipotent god who
had a personal interest in us would make
his existence and message self-evident and
undeniable, as much of a constant and as obvious
as the sun in the sky. He most certainly would
not need for us to rely on ancient, self-contradictory
religious texts of questionable authorship and
interpretation to gain knowledge of him.
The complete lack of evidence of any god(s).
--
Aloha, G-Ride
"I love songs about horses, railroads, land, judgement day, family, hard
times, whiskey, courtship, marriage, adultery, separation, murder, war,
prison, rambling, damnation, home, salvation, death, pride, humor, piety,
rebellion, patriotism, larceny, determination, tragedy, rowdiness,
heartbreak and love. And Mother. And God. 'Rusty Cage' must fit in some of
these categories." - J. Cash
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
04 Jan 2006 01:02:04 PM |
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"Richard" <richard@nospam.edu> wrote in message
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how about that there's no compelling reason to believe in gods?
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| User: "David H." |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
04 Jan 2006 01:40:55 PM |
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"Richard" <richard@nospam.edu> wrote in message
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For me, for first thing that always comes
to mind is the question: if there was an
all-powerful god who loves us, why are there
so many different religions in the world?
It seems to me that an omipotent god who
had a personal interest in us would make
his existence and message self-evident and
undeniable, as much of a constant and as obvious
as the sun in the sky. He most certainly would
not need for us to rely on ancient, self-contradictory
religious texts of questionable authorship and
interpretation to gain knowledge of him.
Richard
For me, it has *always* felt like the wrong answer - god that is.
When I was about 17 or so, I gave into the thumpers and prayed with
true desire to let god into my heart and change my life. I even gave it
a few days to sink in.
I couldn't keep it up long as my entire being was telling me it was
all ***** anyway. If god was there, wouldn't the knowledge of him not
being there go away?
In other words; I gave it the good college try, but I came up short
in the god department.
Looking at all the information available to me, the conclusion was,
and is, there is no god. I continue to gather more information and
knowledge, but all of it - every little bit of it - points towards the
same conclusion, and points me to it with more confidence.
There is no such thing as god. There is no Santa. There is no Easter
bunny.
There are a lot more ***** Xian's than there are ***** atheists
and agnostics. I choose to associate with the latter two as they seem to
have the more correct answers to life's realities, ( The answers that
correspond to goodness and goodwill. ) than *any* christer I have run
across.
Thanks for asking,
David H.
aa #2217
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
04 Jan 2006 07:48:06 PM |
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"David H." wrote:
"Richard" <richard@nospam.edu> wrote in message
news:dph31m$15k$1@news.asu.edu...
For me, for first thing that always comes
to mind is the question: if there was an
all-powerful god who loves us, why are there
so many different religions in the world?
It seems to me that an omipotent god who
had a personal interest in us would make
his existence and message self-evident and
undeniable, as much of a constant and as obvious
as the sun in the sky. He most certainly would
not need for us to rely on ancient, self-contradictory
religious texts of questionable authorship and
interpretation to gain knowledge of him.
Richard
For me, it has *always* felt like the wrong answer - god that is.
When I was about 17 or so, I gave into the thumpers and prayed with
true desire to let god into my heart and change my life. I even gave it
a few days to sink in.
I couldn't keep it up long as my entire being was telling me it was
all ***** anyway. If god was there, wouldn't the knowledge of him not
being there go away?
In other words; I gave it the good college try, but I came up short
in the god department.
Looking at all the information available to me, the conclusion was,
and is, there is no god. I continue to gather more information and
knowledge, but all of it - every little bit of it - points towards the
same conclusion, and points me to it with more confidence.
There is no such thing as god. There is no Santa. There is no Easter
bunny.
There are a lot more ***** Xian's than there are ***** atheists
and agnostics. I choose to associate with the latter two as they seem to
have the more correct answers to life's realities, ( The answers that
correspond to goodness and goodwill. ) than *any* christer I have run
across.
Thanks for asking,
David H.
aa #2217
Maybe it is my imaginatiom, not sure, but being here as an atheist for a
few years now when it comes to having a sense of humour I reckon religious
types seem to fall well short
There is no humour in the bible either and very little in church.
Maybe they don't have much to smile about, all of them close to becoming
sinners an all. When i used to attend church as a kid I noticed lots of
smiles as the congregation was leaving - now there's a thought!
bob
humanist Brit
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 07:06:23 PM |
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On 4 Jan 2006 19:48:06 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"David H." wrote:
"Richard" <richard@nospam.edu> wrote in message
news:dph31m$15k$1@news.asu.edu...
For me, for first thing that always comes
to mind is the question: if there was an
all-powerful god who loves us, why are there
so many different religions in the world?
It seems to me that an omipotent god who
had a personal interest in us would make
his existence and message self-evident and
undeniable, as much of a constant and as obvious
as the sun in the sky. He most certainly would
not need for us to rely on ancient, self-contradictory
religious texts of questionable authorship and
interpretation to gain knowledge of him.
Richard
For me, it has *always* felt like the wrong answer - god that is.
When I was about 17 or so, I gave into the thumpers and prayed with
true desire to let god into my heart and change my life. I even gave it
a few days to sink in.
I couldn't keep it up long as my entire being was telling me it was
all ***** anyway. If god was there, wouldn't the knowledge of him not
being there go away?
In other words; I gave it the good college try, but I came up short
in the god department.
Looking at all the information available to me, the conclusion was,
and is, there is no god. I continue to gather more information and
knowledge, but all of it - every little bit of it - points towards the
same conclusion, and points me to it with more confidence.
There is no such thing as god. There is no Santa. There is no Easter
bunny.
There are a lot more ***** Xian's than there are ***** atheists
and agnostics. I choose to associate with the latter two as they seem to
have the more correct answers to life's realities, ( The answers that
correspond to goodness and goodwill. ) than *any* christer I have run
across.
Thanks for asking,
David H.
aa #2217
Maybe it is my imaginatiom, not sure, but being here as an atheist for a
few years now when it comes to having a sense of humour I reckon religious
types seem to fall well short
There is no humour in the bible either and very little in church.
Maybe they don't have much to smile about, all of them close to becoming
sinners an all. When i used to attend church as a kid I noticed lots of
smiles as the congregation was leaving - now there's a thought!
Don't forget many people looking at the sunlight on the stained glass
windows and surpurrously(sp) looking at their watches every few minutes.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 11:33:14 PM |
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stoney wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 19:48:06 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"David H." wrote:
"Richard" <richard@nospam.edu> wrote in message
news:dph31m$15k$1@news.asu.edu...
For me, for first thing that always comes
to mind is the question: if there was an
all-powerful god who loves us, why are there
so many different religions in the world?
It seems to me that an omipotent god who
had a personal interest in us would make
his existence and message self-evident and
undeniable, as much of a constant and as obvious
as the sun in the sky. He most certainly would
not need for us to rely on ancient, self-contradictory
religious texts of questionable authorship and
interpretation to gain knowledge of him.
Richard
For me, it has *always* felt like the wrong answer - god that is.
When I was about 17 or so, I gave into the thumpers and prayed with
true desire to let god into my heart and change my life. I even gave it
a few days to sink in.
I couldn't keep it up long as my entire being was telling me it was
all ***** anyway. If god was there, wouldn't the knowledge of him not
being there go away?
In other words; I gave it the good college try, but I came up short
in the god department.
Looking at all the information available to me, the conclusion was,
and is, there is no god. I continue to gather more information and
knowledge, but all of it - every little bit of it - points towards the
same conclusion, and points me to it with more confidence.
There is no such thing as god. There is no Santa. There is no Easter
bunny.
There are a lot more ***** Xian's than there are ***** atheists
and agnostics. I choose to associate with the latter two as they seem to
have the more correct answers to life's realities, ( The answers that
correspond to goodness and goodwill. ) than *any* christer I have run
across.
Thanks for asking,
David H.
aa #2217
Maybe it is my imaginatiom, not sure, but being here as an atheist for a
few years now when it comes to having a sense of humour I reckon religious
types seem to fall well short
There is no humour in the bible either and very little in church.
Maybe they don't have much to smile about, all of them close to becoming
sinners an all. When i used to attend church as a kid I noticed lots of
smiles as the congregation was leaving - now there's a thought!
Don't forget many people looking at the sunlight on the stained glass
windows and surpurrously(sp) looking at their watches every few minutes.
been there, done that - many times. Hee Hee, but a long time ago
Bob
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
07 Jan 2006 03:44:53 PM |
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On 6 Jan 2006 23:33:14 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
stoney wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 19:48:06 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Maybe it is my imaginatiom, not sure, but being here as an atheist for a
few years now when it comes to having a sense of humour I reckon religious
types seem to fall well short
There is no humour in the bible either and very little in church.
Maybe they don't have much to smile about, all of them close to becoming
sinners an all. When i used to attend church as a kid I noticed lots of
smiles as the congregation was leaving - now there's a thought!
Don't forget many people looking at the sunlight on the stained glass
windows and surpurrously(sp) looking at their watches every few minutes.
been there, done that - many times. Hee Hee, but a long time ago
Same here. And these people are aiming for an eternal church service?
They're not too bright.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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04 Jan 2006 01:56:39 PM |
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on 04 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet David H.
(davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net) made the light shine upon us with
this:
For me, it has *always* felt like the wrong answer - god that is.
When I was about 17 or so, I gave into the thumpers and prayed
with
true desire to let god into my heart and change my life. I even gave
it a few days to sink in.
I couldn't keep it up long as my entire being was telling me it
was
all ***** anyway. If god was there, wouldn't the knowledge of him
not being there go away?
In other words; I gave it the good college try, but I came up
short
in the god department.
This is a good example of the absense of the "god" gene that so many
people seem to have. The need to believe is so omnipresent in most
people, that some are even willing to convert from Christianity to Islam,
or Hindu to Judaism - as long as they have something to believe in. I
walked out of church one Sunday when I was seven and decided not to go
back. As a kid I read it as boredom, although I was frightened to learn
that the adults thought all those neat stories we were learning in Sunday
School were real. Now I'm sure I lack that gene myself.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
----
Today's example of Christian Love:
"This is the anger and low class I was speaking of. It's funny how angry
and without moral atheist are wile pretending to have a humanist type
side... It's a facade... Madaline Murry Ohare atleast (sic) admitted to
being a hatefilled (sic) *****! -- Douglas
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| User: "David H." |
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04 Jan 2006 02:34:00 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns974179DB4701Evicman@127.0.0.1...
on 04 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet David H.
(davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net) made the light shine upon us
with
this:
For me, it has *always* felt like the wrong answer - god that is.
When I was about 17 or so, I gave into the thumpers and prayed
with
true desire to let god into my heart and change my life. I even gave
it a few days to sink in.
I couldn't keep it up long as my entire being was telling me it
was
all ***** anyway. If god was there, wouldn't the knowledge of him
not being there go away?
In other words; I gave it the good college try, but I came up
short
in the god department.
This is a good example of the absense of the "god" gene that so many
people seem to have. The need to believe is so omnipresent in most
people, that some are even willing to convert from Christianity to
Islam,
or Hindu to Judaism - as long as they have something to believe in.
We always hear how this god or that requires worship. Perhaps for
those with the gene turned on, god is as real for them as it is unreal
for us. Their very physical makeup requires them to worship so there is
god filling that need. That makes it very real for them.
There is no god requiring worship: There are believers requiring a
god *to* worship.
David H.
aa #2217
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| User: "bob young" |
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04 Jan 2006 07:50:05 PM |
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"David H." wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns974179DB4701Evicman@127.0.0.1...
on 04 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet David H.
(davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net) made the light shine upon us
with
this:
For me, it has *always* felt like the wrong answer - god that is.
When I was about 17 or so, I gave into the thumpers and prayed
with
true desire to let god into my heart and change my life. I even gave
it a few days to sink in.
I couldn't keep it up long as my entire being was telling me it
was
all ***** anyway. If god was there, wouldn't the knowledge of him
not being there go away?
In other words; I gave it the good college try, but I came up
short
in the god department.
This is a good example of the absense of the "god" gene that so many
people seem to have. The need to believe is so omnipresent in most
people, that some are even willing to convert from Christianity to
Islam,
or Hindu to Judaism - as long as they have something to believe in.
We always hear how this god or that requires worship. Perhaps for
those with the gene turned on, god is as real for them as it is unreal
for us. Their very physical makeup requires them to worship so there is
god filling that need. That makes it very real for them.
There is no god requiring worship: There are believers requiring a
god *to* worship.
David H.
aa #2217
Isn't worshipping akin to 'liking'.
I 'like', admire, respect humans - but only the nice one's
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06 Jan 2006 07:03:37 PM |
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:34:00 GMT, "David H."
<davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist?
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns974179DB4701Evicman@127.0.0.1...
on 04 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet David H.
(davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net) made the light shine upon us
with
this:
For me, it has *always* felt like the wrong answer - god that is.
When I was about 17 or so, I gave into the thumpers and prayed
with
true desire to let god into my heart and change my life. I even gave
it a few days to sink in.
I couldn't keep it up long as my entire being was telling me it
was
all ***** anyway. If god was there, wouldn't the knowledge of him
not being there go away?
In other words; I gave it the good college try, but I came up
short
in the god department.
This is a good example of the absense of the "god" gene that so many
people seem to have. The need to believe is so omnipresent in most
people, that some are even willing to convert from Christianity to
Islam,
or Hindu to Judaism - as long as they have something to believe in.
/begin
We always hear how this god or that requires worship. Perhaps for
those with the gene turned on, god is as real for them as it is unreal
for us. Their very physical makeup requires them to worship so there is
god filling that need. That makes it very real for them.
There is no god requiring worship: There are believers requiring a
god *to* worship.
David H.
aa #2217
/end
Seconds?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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04 Jan 2006 02:47:41 PM |
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on 04 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet David H.
(davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net) made the light shine upon us with
this:
This is a good example of the absense of the "god" gene that so many
people seem to have. The need to believe is so omnipresent in most
people, that some are even willing to convert from Christianity to
Islam,
or Hindu to Judaism - as long as they have something to believe in.
We always hear how this god or that requires worship. Perhaps for
those with the gene turned on, god is as real for them as it is unreal
for us. Their very physical makeup requires them to worship so there is
god filling that need. That makes it very real for them.
There is no god requiring worship: There are believers requiring a
god *to* worship.
Many thousands of years ago, people used to worship their king, exaulting
him to the level of a "god". I wonder if this need stems from this
practice.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
----
Today's example of Christian Love:
"This is the anger and low class I was speaking of. It's funny how angry
and without moral atheist are wile pretending to have a humanist type
side... It's a facade... Madaline Murry Ohare atleast (sic) admitted to
being a hatefilled (sic) *****! -- Douglas
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| User: "David H." |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
04 Jan 2006 06:51:00 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9741828232183vicman@127.0.0.1...
on 04 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet David H.
(davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net) made the light shine upon us with
this:
This is a good example of the absense of the "god" gene that so many
people seem to have. The need to believe is so omnipresent in most
people, that some are even willing to convert from Christianity to
Islam,
or Hindu to Judaism - as long as they have something to believe in.
We always hear how this god or that requires worship. Perhaps for
those with the gene turned on, god is as real for them as it is unreal
for us. Their very physical makeup requires them to worship so there is
god filling that need. That makes it very real for them.
There is no god requiring worship: There are believers requiring a
god *to* worship.
Many thousands of years ago, people used to worship their king, exaulting
him to the level of a "god". I wonder if this need stems from this
practice.
You know, that may go back even further.
Having a genetic trigger that makes folks follow and obey a strong and
successful figure amongst the group might give the group an evolutionary
advantage. A person who is confident and continues to make the right
survival decisions would be a valuable individual to elevate to high status
in order to ensure the survival of the rest.
Perhaps this genetic strategy shows today in both god-worship and cult
personality.
David H.
aa #2217
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
04 Jan 2006 07:56:03 PM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
on 04 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet David H.
(davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net) made the light shine upon us with
this:
This is a good example of the absense of the "god" gene that so many
people seem to have. The need to believe is so omnipresent in most
people, that some are even willing to convert from Christianity to
Islam,
or Hindu to Judaism - as long as they have something to believe in.
We always hear how this god or that requires worship. Perhaps for
those with the gene turned on, god is as real for them as it is unreal
for us. Their very physical makeup requires them to worship so there is
god filling that need. That makes it very real for them.
There is no god requiring worship: There are believers requiring a
god *to* worship.
Many thousands of years ago, people used to worship their king, exaulting
him to the level of a "god". I wonder if this need stems from this
practice.
Definitely and we males deep down resent having to worship a King. We are
envious and wish it were we up there being worshipped.
But we know that is completely out of the question so when someone presents
an alternative like a god that is even more powerful than our king what do
we do?
Many of us fall for it, fall on our knees and start wordshipping and
mumbling.
Nice release, nice alternative. And of course the king sees what is
happeneing and quickly takes that god on board, promotes him and then has
the population eating of his and his god's hands.
Nothing changes very much does it?
Cheers
Bob
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
----
Today's example of Christian Love:
"This is the anger and low class I was speaking of. It's funny how angry
and without moral atheist are wile pretending to have a humanist type
side... It's a facade... Madaline Murry Ohare atleast (sic) admitted to
being a hatefilled (sic) *****! -- Douglas
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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04 Jan 2006 08:40:59 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
(alaspectrum@netvigator.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Uncle Vic wrote:
on 04 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet David H.
(davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net) made the light shine upon us
with this:
This is a good example of the absense of the "god" gene that so
many people seem to have. The need to believe is so omnipresent
in most people, that some are even willing to convert from
Christianity to Islam,
or Hindu to Judaism - as long as they have something to believe
in.
We always hear how this god or that requires worship. Perhaps
for
those with the gene turned on, god is as real for them as it is
unreal for us. Their very physical makeup requires them to worship
so there is god filling that need. That makes it very real for
them.
There is no god requiring worship: There are believers
requiring a
god *to* worship.
Many thousands of years ago, people used to worship their king,
exaulting him to the level of a "god". I wonder if this need stems
from this practice.
Definitely and we males deep down resent having to worship a King. We
are envious and wish it were we up there being worshipped.
Hence the invention of the giant SUV.
But we know that is completely out of the question so when someone
presents an alternative like a god that is even more powerful than our
king what do we do?
Many of us fall for it, fall on our knees and start wordshipping and
mumbling.
Nice release, nice alternative. And of course the king sees what is
happeneing and quickly takes that god on board, promotes him and then
has the population eating of his and his god's hands.
Nothing changes very much does it?
Except for some of the scriptures which, through the ages, were changed
to fit the whim of whatever king.
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Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Only the atheist realizes how morally objectionable it is for survivors
of a catastrophe to believe themselves spared by a loving God while this
same God drowned infants in their cribs. - Sam Harris
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
04 Jan 2006 12:45:29 PM |
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"Richard" <richard@nospam.edu> wrote in message
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For me, for first thing that always comes
to mind is the question: if there was an
all-powerful god who loves us, why are there
so many different religions in the world?
It seems to me that an omipotent god who
had a personal interest in us would make
his existence and message self-evident and
undeniable, as much of a constant and as obvious
as the sun in the sky. He most certainly would
not need for us to rely on ancient, self-contradictory
religious texts of questionable authorship and
interpretation to gain knowledge of him.
Richard
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely impossible and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my mind
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| User: "duke" |
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05 Jan 2006 05:08:27 AM |
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:45:29 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely impossible and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the chemicals.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
05 Jan 2006 12:28:47 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:45:29 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely impossible and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the chemicals.
Poisoning the well. Try another fallacy, just for fun. Or do you want
me to do it for you?
"It's your funeral."
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 05:33:04 AM |
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"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136485727.837546.227300@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
duke wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:45:29 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely impossible
and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the
chemicals.
Poisoning the well. Try another fallacy, just for fun. Or do you want
me to do it for you?
"It's your funeral."
Duke, don't bother replying to me, I have you kill filed
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 05:51:23 AM |
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:dplkhg$oei$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136485727.837546.227300@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
duke wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:45:29 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely impossible
and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my
mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the
chemicals.
Poisoning the well. Try another fallacy, just for fun. Or do you want
me to do it for you?
"It's your funeral."
Duke, don't bother replying to me, I have you kill filed
It doesn't matter. I killfiled him years ago, which he knows, and he still
replies to me as well.
Let's watch! ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 07:07:30 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:4273tlF1he0ciU1@individual.net...
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:dplkhg$oei$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136485727.837546.227300@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
duke wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:45:29 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely
impossible and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my
mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the
chemicals.
Poisoning the well. Try another fallacy, just for fun. Or do you want
me to do it for you?
"It's your funeral."
Duke, don't bother replying to me, I have you kill filed
It doesn't matter. I killfiled him years ago, which he knows, and he
still replies to me as well.
Let's watch! ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Im slighty worried that he doesn't know where babies come from.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 08:03:55 PM |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:07:30 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:4273tlF1he0ciU1@individual.net...
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:dplkhg$oei$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136485727.837546.227300@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
duke wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:45:29 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely
impossible and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my
mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the
chemicals.
Poisoning the well. Try another fallacy, just for fun. Or do you want
me to do it for you?
"It's your funeral."
Duke, don't bother replying to me, I have you kill filed
It doesn't matter. I killfiled him years ago, which he knows, and he
still replies to me as well.
Let's watch! ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Im slighty worried that he doesn't know where babies come from.
You should be thoroughly relieved.
The world is a safer place because of it.
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| User: "duke" |
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06 Jan 2006 05:18:39 PM |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:07:30 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote:
Im slighty worried that he doesn't know where babies come from.
I'm not the one running from the discussion. You are. And fortunately I'm not
your old man, who can only shut up and pretend to not hear you.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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06 Jan 2006 08:02:48 PM |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 06:51:23 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:dplkhg$oei$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136485727.837546.227300@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
duke wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:45:29 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely impossible
and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my
mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the
chemicals.
Poisoning the well. Try another fallacy, just for fun. Or do you want
me to do it for you?
"It's your funeral."
Duke, don't bother replying to me, I have you kill filed
It doesn't matter. I killfiled him years ago, which he knows, and he still
replies to me as well.
Let's watch! ;)
He claims to have ME killfiled, yet still manages to reply to my
posts.
Could he have lied?
Surely not!
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 10:08:20 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:888ur11blvfq0p33j0s7r10bsmlq1deshk@4ax.com...
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 06:51:23 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:dplkhg$oei$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136485727.837546.227300@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
duke wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:45:29 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely
impossible
and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my
mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the
chemicals.
Poisoning the well. Try another fallacy, just for fun. Or do you want
me to do it for you?
"It's your funeral."
Duke, don't bother replying to me, I have you kill filed
It doesn't matter. I killfiled him years ago, which he knows, and he
still
replies to me as well.
Let's watch! ;)
He claims to have ME killfiled, yet still manages to reply to my
posts.
Could he have lied?
Surely not!
Puke actually killfiled someone? Get out! :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 02:16:09 PM |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 06:51:23 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
It doesn't matter. I killfiled him years ago, which he knows, and he still
replies to me as well.
More evidence that duke isn't very bright, but no one is surprised.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 05:16:55 PM |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 06:51:23 -0500, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
Duke, don't bother replying to me, I have you kill filed
It doesn't matter. I killfiled him years ago, which he knows, and he still
replies to me as well.
Just because you two loser women cannot discuss the subject in public does not
mean that I will not answer you.
What a poor display of wornout womanhood.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 05:15:05 PM |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:33:04 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136485727.837546.227300@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
duke wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:45:29 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely impossible
and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the
chemicals.
Poisoning the well. Try another fallacy, just for fun. Or do you want
me to do it for you?
"It's your funeral."
Duke, don't bother replying to me, I have you kill filed
Everybody else sees.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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06 Jan 2006 05:14:35 PM |
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On 5 Jan 2006 10:28:47 -0800, "Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely impossible and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the chemicals.
Poisoning the well. Try another fallacy, just for fun. Or do you want
me to do it for you?
"It's your funeral."
Ah good one, but I don't need it here.
Procreation occurs when the 2 chemicals required for life, 1 of which is located
in the male and the other in the female, are mixed thru complimentary shaped
organs thru an act of love encouraged by high levels of human pleasure.
No fallacy there - just 100% human fact.
God did it.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: what's your most compelling reason for being an atheist? |
06 Jan 2006 05:39:11 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 5 Jan 2006 10:28:47 -0800, "Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote:
Personally I just find the idea of a god existing completely impossible and
ludicrous - it hit me when I was 8 and nothing since has changed my mind
Then where did you come from? Remember, your parents only mixed the chemicals.
Poisoning the well. Try another fallacy, just for fun. Or do you want
me to do it for you?
"It's your funeral."
Ah good one, but I don't need it here.
Procreation occurs when the 2 chemicals required for life, 1 of which is located
in the male and the other in the female, are mixed thru complimentary shaped
organs
You're doing fine(ish...2 chemicals? I think the chemistry of the egg
and the sperm is more involved than that) up until now.
thru an act of love encouraged by high levels of human pleasure.
Bzzzzzz. Wrong. People ***** in all sorts of ways, plenty of which do
not involve love at all, including rape, including recreational sex,
including artificial insemination, including when one partner is not
interested in the other...love often has nothing to do with it. And
pleasure isn't a requirement either.
No fallacy there - just 100% human fact.
Another human fiction by you.
God did it.
Non sequitor, you DO need to resort to your fallacies. Animals were
reproducing for millions of years before humans came along and imposed
their "god" ideas onto nature, which works perfectly well without it..
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