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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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13 Feb 2006 10:14:17 AM |
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When insurance companies kill |
Tracy Pierce, 37, lived a full life. He grew up with family and faith.
He went to a Catholic school, got married, had a son, and he even had
the car of his dreams. It was the perfect life.
"He's been strong. He has," his wife, Julie Pierce, said.
Two years ago, Tracy Pierce's life changed dramatically when he was
diagnosed with kidney cancer.
"I have no treatment. Three months has gone by and I haven't had any
treatment," Tracy Pierce told KMBC's Jim Flink in May 2005.
When Flink talked to Tracy Pierce, his cancer was attacking his body.
Despite being fully insured, every treatment his doctors sought for
him was denied by his insurance provider. First-Health Coventry deemed
the treatments were either not a medical necessity or experimental.
"I don't know what else to do but just wait," Tracy Pierce said last
May.
As he waited, his doctors appealed again and again, including a
27-page appeal spelling out that Tracy Pierce would die without care.
Coventry dismissed each request.
"It's purely economical. You never see an insurance company try to
block an inexpensive test," said William Soper.
Soper leads a group of doctors who filed a lawsuit last year against
insurance providers. This week, Soper went to Jefferson City to lobby
legislators for change.
"And you know, it's not going to get better anytime soon. It's going
to get worse," said Myra Christopher, who is the president and chief
executive officer of the Center for Practical Bioethics.
Christopher told Flink that change won't happen until there's a change
in the entire medical model.
"I just believe strongly that we need to start being honest about
what's going on here," Christopher said.
What is going on is that some insurance companies deny even routine
treatments because insurance companies treat their patients as costs,
not as clients, Christopher said.
"Some of these companies are just unethical the way they treat both
subscribers and providers, doctors and hospitals," Soper said.
Two weeks ago, Tracy Pierce talked with Flink again.
"Just holding a lot of anger in," Pierce said.
Cancer ravaged his body, moving from his kidney to his lungs and to
his brain.
"Now, we're just to the point where we're trying to make him
comfortable," Julie Pierce said.
Even as he was dying, for more than a week, his insurance company
denied him oral morphine, which had been prescribed to reduce his
pain.
"That's unacceptable because in this day and age, no one should be in
pain," Pierce said.
"I just hope we can get something done about it, that's all. We just
have to get something done," Tracy Pierce said.
An hour and a half after Tracy Pierce talked to Flink, he took a nap
and never woke up. His family calls his case death by denial.
"They just wrote a prescription for him to die," Julie Pierce said.
The family is begging for change.
"The reality is the blame-and-shame game isn't going to get us
anywhere. We are all at fault," Christopher said.
Insurance companies, hospitals, doctors, patients and politicians all
need to work together, she said.
"We have to have the moral will. We have to have the intelligence. We
have to have the political leadership to change this," Christopher
said.
For Julie Pierce, it was 15 months of watching her husband die slowly,
painfully and helplessly with no chance at lifesaving treatment, Flink
reported.
"My mother always told me to get a good job with insurance. For what?
It hasn't done anything," Julie Pierce said.
Julie Pierce said that she understands that we will all die. What is
expected, she said, is that if you have health insurance, you'll be
given every fighting chance. She said that is not happening.
Leukemia Story
Last fall, 12-year-old Nathan Crabtree was an outgoing child getting
ready for a new school year. But his father says Nathan often played
sick to extend summer vacation by a day or two.
To prove a point, his dad took Nathan to a doctor for test, which
showed that Nathan had an aggressive form of leukemia -- one that
needed immediate treatment.
Flink reported that a hospital room has become Nathan's classroom. He
spent just two days of his sixth-grade year with classmates; mostly,
he's been at Children's Mercy Hospital.
"It's not going away, so they were going to send me to Minnesota,"
Nathan said.
Doctors wrote to Nathan's insurance company, urging it to send him to
the nation's foremost research hospital. Nathan's bags were packed,
when his father's insurance company, Coventry, refused to pay for that
care, calling it "experimental."
"You don't have anyone to fight for you," said Lee Crabtree, Nathan's
father.
Lee Crabtree said he's desperate.
"I have to go out and find private grants, because for all intents and
purposes, I have to assume I have no medical coverage," Lee Crabtree
said.
"I think they expect or depend on people giving up after the first
phone call," said Dr. William Soper, the executive director of
Mid-America Medical Affiliates.
Soper said his group is so upset with insurance companies that it has
filed a lawsuit alleging insurers block patient care.
"We have patients who say, 'I want a complete physical,' and we'll
look at their insurance coverage and we have to say, 'Sorry, but your
plan doesn't cover a complete physical,'" Soper said.
Flink reported that many people don't realize what isn't covered by
health insurance until it is too late.
Lee Crabtree said he has a helpless feeling when he looks at his son
and tries to explain why he can't help him live.
"The feeling of this is beyond words. It makes you feel hollow," Lee
Crabtree said.
Late Friday, KMBC learned that Nathan's mother found out she could
apply for coverage with Blue Cross Blue Shield at her workplace, and
so she had applied. What Coventry spent months denying and calling
experimental, Blue Cross Blue Shield approved on the first request.
Nathan Crabtree leaves for Minnesota on Sunday morning.
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/kmbc/3257367>
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"There's never been a better time to be an insurance company than
right now," said Dr. William Soper, with Mid-America Medical
Affiliates.
Studies show that insurance companies have doubled profits in just
four years.
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"I did not have *****-fucking relations with Jack Abramoff" - George W. Bush
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| User: "HellPope Huey" |
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13 Feb 2006 11:35:28 AM |
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He should cell-phone the local TV stations just before he goes into
their main office with a machine gun and tell 'em WHY. Even if all he
did was take out every computer in the place, it'd be great footage....
for 3 days, maybe.
Sure, lines have to be drawn to keep many systems running at all,
let's get real. However, when it gets to the please-the-stockholders
line and legimately ill people get boned like that, guns begin to look
like really useful tools. You don't have to tell me about it, either; it
took 2 YEARS for me to see a penny when I was clearly hit from behind at
60. You WANT to see those people get stomach cancer in a place where
there IS no morphine.
State Farm, a subdivision of Wormwood International.
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HellPope Huey
The Vice-President shot
a FRIEND in the face,
so imagine how WE rate, yikes
Liberalism is trust of the people
tempered by prudence;
Conservativism is distrust of the people
tempered by fear.
~ William Ewart Gladstone
"Slaves can have slaves; this is America."
~ "Malcolm In The Middle"
http://www.beat-factory.net/hellpope/
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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13 Feb 2006 08:29:17 PM |
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HellPope Huey <HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> wrote:
He should cell-phone the local TV stations just before he goes into
their main office with a machine gun and tell 'em WHY. Even if all he
did was take out every computer in the place, it'd be great footage....
for 3 days, maybe.
We had something like that here in Southern California. A guy went
on a "rampage" and took to the freeways. When he was boxed in he
got out, put a huge sign on the ground made out of what might have
been blankets or cardboard, stating that his HMO drove him to it
because he had nothing to lose.
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"I did not have *****-fucking relations with Jack Abramoff" - George W. Bush
Christian Republican Family Values: "If they're too young to vote, ***** 'em!"
"***** Cheney - you ARE the NRA!" --
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| User: "nu-monet v8.0" |
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13 Feb 2006 11:39:54 AM |
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Despite being fully insured, every treatment his
doctors sought for him was denied by his insurance
provider.
It's no secret that a lot of the insurers out there
just won't pay any claim larger than 'x'. They also
waffle out of reasonable claims that they just don't
feel like paying, or think they can weasel out of.
They set up a situation so that when you are paying
in your dividends, it is between you and the company;
but when you make your claim, it is between you and
a company employee. So if your agent wants to shaft
you, it's not the companies' problem. Brokerages do
something like this too.
The agents are paid based on how many claims they
don't have to pay, so they are motivated to screw you.
Some of the tricks are like in disasters, like a
hurricane, if your house was blown apart by winds and
flooded. If you have flood insurance, they claim the
damage was caused by the wind--prove otherwise; or if
you have wind insurance, it was caused by the flood--
prove otherwise.
Another one if for two agents working for different
companies get together to screw both their clients.
This happens a lot with automobile accidents. This
is by pushing a mutually unsatisfactory settlement.
One side doesn't get enough claim to pay for their
medical bills; the other doesn't get enough to pay
for their vehicle repairs.
Of course, the alternative is to sue, but that one is
rigged up so that you even get less money then you
would have if you have taken the insurer's bad deal.
From the instant your health insurer figures you are
terminally ill, they want you dead, and the quicker,
the better. Most people expend 70% of their lifetime
health care dollars in the last four years of their
lives. So if they can speed those four years up,
they save big bucks.
It is almost to the point of asking you doctor to
"conceal within reason" grave illnesses, at least
until major treatments have been authorized by your
insurer. Doctors can do this, and usually have no
objection to it, as long as they are not being asked
to lie--just to withold judgement, opinion, and
speculation from your medical record, until such
time as you can arrange full care.
Doctors probably won't object to this, as long as it
doesn't expose them to malpractice. They have no
great admiration for crafty insurers. Heck, they
might even help you conceal until you get payment
assured.
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Be Sure To Visit the 'SubGenius Reverend' Blog:
http://slackoff.blogspot.com/
**********
"Pleasure me, you ebony wench!"
--James Mason, from the movie
'Mandingo'
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Feb 2006 05:17:08 PM |
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In <43F0C46A.5C6@succeeds.com>, "nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
wrote:
Some of the tricks are like in disasters, like a hurricane, if your house
was blown apart by winds and flooded. If you have flood insurance, they
claim the damage was caused by the wind--prove otherwise; or if you have
wind insurance, it was caused by the flood-- prove otherwise.
I hear they're doing that song and dance with a vengeance over in New
Orleans.
I wouldn't know myself since the insurance company hasn't even *showed *up
in FIVE MONTHS to even take a peek at the Katrina damage to the house here...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Churches are closing...
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M611110AC
Mardi Gras is rolling...
http://www.nola.com/mardigras/
Now, what was this about god's judgement?
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Monsignor SODDI" |
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13 Feb 2006 05:23:05 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:6JKdnZhLS9zpjmzenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@megapath.net...
In <43F0C46A.5C6@succeeds.com>, "nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
wrote:
Some of the tricks are like in disasters, like a hurricane, if your house
was blown apart by winds and flooded. If you have flood insurance, they
claim the damage was caused by the wind--prove otherwise; or if you have
wind insurance, it was caused by the flood-- prove otherwise.
I hear they're doing that song and dance with a vengeance over in New
Orleans.
I wouldn't know myself since the insurance company hasn't even *showed *up
in FIVE MONTHS to even take a peek at the Katrina damage to the house
here...
This proves that Americans are WEAK, PATHETIC, STUPID and APATHETIC.
In a truly civilized society, we'd be dragging insurance company execs out
of their offices and piling them up for bonfires.
Or at least using them for medical experiments. After we buttfuck their
eyesockets.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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14 Feb 2006 09:03:23 AM |
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"Monsignor SODDI" <nyarlhotep@starrywisdom.org> wrote in message
news:Qu8If.15226$pM6.11528@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:6JKdnZhLS9zpjmzenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@megapath.net...
In <43F0C46A.5C6@succeeds.com>, "nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
wrote:
Some of the tricks are like in disasters, like a hurricane, if your
house
was blown apart by winds and flooded. If you have flood insurance, they
claim the damage was caused by the wind--prove otherwise; or if you have
wind insurance, it was caused by the flood-- prove otherwise.
I hear they're doing that song and dance with a vengeance over in New
Orleans.
I wouldn't know myself since the insurance company hasn't even *showed
*up
in FIVE MONTHS to even take a peek at the Katrina damage to the house
here...
This proves that Americans are WEAK, PATHETIC, STUPID and APATHETIC.
In a truly civilized society, we'd be dragging insurance company execs out
of their offices and piling them up for bonfires.
Or at least using them for medical experiments. After we buttfuck their
eyesockets.
Oooooookay <backs away slowly>
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Feb 2006 05:27:14 PM |
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In <Qu8If.15226$pM6.11528@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "Monsignor SODDI"
<nyarlhotep@starrywisdom.org> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:6JKdnZhLS9zpjmzenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@megapath.net...
In <43F0C46A.5C6@succeeds.com>, "nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
wrote:
Some of the tricks are like in disasters, like a hurricane, if your
house was blown apart by winds and flooded. If you have flood
insurance, they claim the damage was caused by the wind--prove
otherwise; or if you have wind insurance, it was caused by the flood--
prove otherwise.
I hear they're doing that song and dance with a vengeance over in New
Orleans.
I wouldn't know myself since the insurance company hasn't even *showed
*up in FIVE MONTHS to even take a peek at the Katrina damage to the
house here...
This proves that Americans are WEAK, PATHETIC, STUPID and APATHETIC.
In a truly civilized society, we'd be dragging insurance company execs out
of their offices and piling them up for bonfires.
Or at least using them for medical experiments. After we buttfuck their
eyesockets.
I have *no idea why people aren't turning cars over in the streets with
some of the crap that goes on in this country...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Churches are closing...
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M611110AC
Mardi Gras is rolling...
http://www.nola.com/mardigras/
Now, what was this about god's judgement?
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "William Earl Haskell" |
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13 Feb 2006 11:53:36 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <Qu8If.15226$pM6.11528@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "Monsignor SODDI"
<nyarlhotep@starrywisdom.org> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:6JKdnZhLS9zpjmzenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@megapath.net...
In <43F0C46A.5C6@succeeds.com>, "nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
wrote:
Some of the tricks are like in disasters, like a hurricane, if your
house was blown apart by winds and flooded. If you have flood
insurance, they claim the damage was caused by the wind--prove
otherwise; or if you have wind insurance, it was caused by the flood--
prove otherwise.
I hear they're doing that song and dance with a vengeance over in New
Orleans.
I wouldn't know myself since the insurance company hasn't even *showed
*up in FIVE MONTHS to even take a peek at the Katrina damage to the
house here...
This proves that Americans are WEAK, PATHETIC, STUPID and APATHETIC.
In a truly civilized society, we'd be dragging insurance company execs out
of their offices and piling them up for bonfires.
Or at least using them for medical experiments. After we buttfuck their
eyesockets.
I have *no idea why people aren't turning cars over in the streets with
some of the crap that goes on in this country...
Back in 2000, when Italy became the last member of the EU to pass a
motorcycle helmet law, a policeman shot a motorcyclist in the back when
he refused to stop to be ticketed for not wearing a helmet. Killed him
right off.
There was RIOTS.
Police cars were BURNED.
The police stations were MOBBED.
Signor Killer Kop became an EX-COP.
What will it take to get this kind of righteous action in this place?!?
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave my @$$.
Bah.
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| User: "" |
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15 Feb 2006 04:53:46 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:53:36 -0600, William Earl Haskell
<forban@hal-pc.org> wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <Qu8If.15226$pM6.11528@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "Monsignor SODDI"
<nyarlhotep@starrywisdom.org> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:6JKdnZhLS9zpjmzenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@megapath.net...
In <43F0C46A.5C6@succeeds.com>, "nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
wrote:
Some of the tricks are like in disasters, like a hurricane, if your
house was blown apart by winds and flooded. If you have flood
insurance, they claim the damage was caused by the wind--prove
otherwise; or if you have wind insurance, it was caused by the flood--
prove otherwise.
I hear they're doing that song and dance with a vengeance over in New
Orleans.
I wouldn't know myself since the insurance company hasn't even *showed
*up in FIVE MONTHS to even take a peek at the Katrina damage to the
house here...
This proves that Americans are WEAK, PATHETIC, STUPID and APATHETIC.
In a truly civilized society, we'd be dragging insurance company execs out
of their offices and piling them up for bonfires.
Or at least using them for medical experiments. After we buttfuck their
eyesockets.
I have *no idea why people aren't turning cars over in the streets with
some of the crap that goes on in this country...
Back in 2000, when Italy became the last member of the EU to pass a
motorcycle helmet law, a policeman shot a motorcyclist in the back when
he refused to stop to be ticketed for not wearing a helmet. Killed him
right off.
There was RIOTS.
Police cars were BURNED.
The police stations were MOBBED.
Signor Killer Kop became an EX-COP.
What will it take to get this kind of righteous action in this place?!?
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave my @$$.
Bah.
In the US they have tear gas, guns and trigger happy troopers to make
sure that doesn't happen.
Sunyata
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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14 Feb 2006 04:19:09 AM |
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William Earl Haskell <forban@hal-pc.org> wrote:
Back in 2000, when Italy became the last member of the EU to pass a
motorcycle helmet law, a policeman shot a motorcyclist in the back when
he refused to stop to be ticketed for not wearing a helmet. Killed him
right off.
There was RIOTS.
Police cars were BURNED.
The police stations were MOBBED.
Signor Killer Kop became an EX-COP.
What will it take to get this kind of righteous action in this place?!?
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave my @$$.
That's the way it should be: the citizens should rise up in riot
and punish the police when they do something like that, and the
killer should be tried and either imprisoned or get executed.
In oregon we had a couple of cops murder a man who had been in a
series of automobile accidents and who was on fire. All his clothes
had burned away and all his hair and much of his skin.
Why did the Oregon police shoot him? He wasn't following orders.
The guy was either on fire at the time or was suffering from third
degree burns over most of his body and the pigs murdered him because
he wouldn't lie calmly and quietly on the ground.
The murderers walked away clean, even getting paid for their forced
vacations. And when the citizens picketed and protested, dozens of
pigs ringed the police station with orders to shoot anyone who dared
stand on the steps with a microphone.
---
"I did not have *****-fucking relations with Jack Abramoff" - George W. Bush
Christian Republican Family Values: "If they're too young to vote, ***** 'em!"
"***** Cheney - you ARE the NRA!" --
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Feb 2006 06:44:23 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:17:08 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
In <43F0C46A.5C6@succeeds.com>, "nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
wrote:
Some of the tricks are like in disasters, like a hurricane, if your house
was blown apart by winds and flooded. If you have flood insurance, they
claim the damage was caused by the wind--prove otherwise; or if you have
wind insurance, it was caused by the flood-- prove otherwise.
I hear they're doing that song and dance with a vengeance over in New
Orleans.
I wouldn't know myself since the insurance company hasn't even *showed *up
in FIVE MONTHS to even take a peek at the Katrina damage to the house here...
As the pre-hurricane hitting Louisiana cartoon showed-the insurance
companies moved and left no forwarding address.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "satyr" |
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13 Feb 2006 11:56:18 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:39:54 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0"
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Despite being fully insured, every treatment his
doctors sought for him was denied by his insurance
provider.
It's no secret that a lot of the insurers out there
just won't pay any claim larger than 'x'. They also
waffle out of reasonable claims that they just don't
feel like paying, or think they can weasel out of.
I have zero sympathy for big corporations who are now whining about
how much health insurance costs. And here in Illinois, "non-profit"
hospitals are whining about how they will go bankrupt if a new law
forces them to provide more charity. They are pointing to all the
bills that go unpaid.
You guys want sympathy? Show me how much money you have spent
lobbying for universal health insurance over the last forty years.
more likely you fought against it. ***** you all. You can go bankrupt
just like everyone else is now.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Baldin Pramer" |
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16 Feb 2006 09:28:17 AM |
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Tracy Pierce, 37, lived a full life. He grew up with family and faith.
He went to a Catholic school, got married, had a son, and he even had
the car of his dreams. It was the perfect life.
"He's been strong. He has," his wife, Julie Pierce, said.
Two years ago, Tracy Pierce's life changed dramatically when he was
diagnosed with kidney cancer.
"I have no treatment. Three months has gone by and I haven't had any
treatment," Tracy Pierce told KMBC's Jim Flink in May 2005.
When Flink talked to Tracy Pierce, his cancer was attacking his body.
Despite being fully insured, every treatment his doctors sought for
him was denied by his insurance provider. First-Health Coventry deemed
the treatments were either not a medical necessity or experimental.
He wasn't covered. He should just stop whining.
--
Sir Baldin Pramer, RPA
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| User: "Blackout" |
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13 Feb 2006 11:26:40 AM |
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I'M IN FOR $5
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| User: "William Wingstedt" |
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22 Mar 2006 09:58:58 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:14:17 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Tracy Pierce, 37, lived a full life. He grew up with family and faith.
He went to a Catholic school, got married, had a son, and he even had
the car of his dreams. It was the perfect life.
"He's been strong. He has," his wife, Julie Pierce, said.
Two years ago, Tracy Pierce's life changed dramatically when he was
diagnosed with kidney cancer.
"I have no treatment. Three months has gone by and I haven't had any
treatment," Tracy Pierce told KMBC's Jim Flink in May 2005.
snip
Insurance companies do not belong in the health care industry. All
they do is skim their profits off the top of the available health care
dollar, pay their employees and provide them with health care
insurance. Their path to increased profits is via denial of coverage,
not cost control or by actually having anything to do with being
healthy. One does not feel encouraged to see a doctor for fear of
tripping the rate meter. Wouldn't it be more efficient to negotiate
health care directly with health care providers? Maybe something
similar to school districts, sewer districts or some other sort of
body politic that would represent regions and engage providers for the
citizenry. It wouldn't have to be at a federal level, but less
affluent areas may need a subsidy. I know that my premiums have
doubled since Bush has been president. Sure, I'm older, but I am
healthy and I'm afraid to even use my insurance. My policy provided a
prescription benefit that caused a prescription for a family member to
cost ONE CENT less than buying it without the benefit. When my wife
offered to just pay for it, the pharmacy counciled against it, too
much of a "hassle"...Arrghhhh!
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| Title: Re: When insurance companies kill |
23 Mar 2006 02:43:31 AM |
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"William Wingstedt" <William_Wingstedt@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43f2995c.110608436@Newsgroups.Comcast.net...
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:14:17 GMT, (Fredric L.
Over here is aus we allegedly have this out of teh medicare levy on
taxation. But the economic rationalists are eating away at it.
Insurance companies do not belong in the health care industry. All
they do is skim their profits off the top of the available health care
dollar, pay their employees and provide them with health care
insurance. Their path to increased profits is via denial of coverage,
not cost control or by actually having anything to do with being
healthy. One does not feel encouraged to see a doctor for fear of
tripping the rate meter. Wouldn't it be more efficient to negotiate
health care directly with health care providers? Maybe something
similar to school districts, sewer districts or some other sort of
body politic that would represent regions and engage providers for the
citizenry. It wouldn't have to be at a federal level, but less
affluent areas may need a subsidy.
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