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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Apostle Keith Williams"
Date: 18 Jan 2005 11:48:29 AM
Object: When love was love only.
Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex
until married? Those were the good old days when we obeyed God; so He made
our corn tall, wildflowers plenteous, drove out harmful animals, and gave us
fresh water streams full of good fish, and God kept us healthy and strong
and smart. In the Old Testament everybody was expected to be celibate
until married, and every child was expected to be immaculate. God has some
holy people today too. When your town becomes wicked, sell your house and
move away to where God shows you. Hold fast your love in God. Thank You
God in the Lord Jesus' name.
KW.
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User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 12:48:49 PM
"Apostle Keith Williams" <apostlekeithwilliams@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1da2e$41ed4c12$4f5dd58$28873@allthenewsgroups.com...

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do
sex
until married

They didn't happen
there has always been sex before marriage there will always be sex before
marriage.
.

User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 12:54:41 PM
"Apostle Keith Williams" <apostlekeithwilliams@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1da2e$41ed4c12$4f5dd58$28873@allthenewsgroups.com...

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do
sex
until married?

And while Im at it people generally didn't marry for love, they married
because their parents told them to in order to gain money and/or power and
women were nothing more than their fathers property. Marrying for love is a
recent thing.
So you're really are just talking total bollocks.
.

User: "Neil Kelsey"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 12:08:01 PM
"Apostle Keith Williams" <apostlekeithwilliams@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1da2e$41ed4c12$4f5dd58$28873@allthenewsgroups.com...

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do
sex
until married? Those were the good old days when we obeyed God; so He
made
our corn tall, wildflowers plenteous, drove out harmful animals, and gave
us
fresh water streams full of good fish, and God kept us healthy and strong
and smart. In the Old Testament everybody was expected to be celibate
until married, and every child was expected to be immaculate. God has
some
holy people today too. When your town becomes wicked, sell your house
and
move away to where God shows you. Hold fast your love in God. Thank
You
God in the Lord Jesus' name.
KW.

I'll bet you don't respond to any of the upcoming replies from atheists. You
guys are the best straight men since vaudeville died.
.

User: "John Popelish"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 03:25:05 PM
Apostle Keith Williams wrote:


Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex
until married?

(snip)
No.
--
John Popelish
.

User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 19 Jan 2005 09:13:29 AM
Apostle Keith Williams wrote:

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex
until married? Those were the good old days when we obeyed God; so He made
our corn tall, wildflowers plenteous, drove out harmful animals, and gave us
fresh water streams full of good fish, and God kept us healthy and strong
and smart. In the Old Testament everybody was expected to be celibate
until married, and every child was expected to be immaculate. God has some
holy people today too. When your town becomes wicked, sell your house and
move away to where God shows you. Hold fast your love in God. Thank You
God in the Lord Jesus' name.
KW.

Oh, really?
Me thinks the apostle hath not read the story of Lot, and his two daughters.
I also know you are a moron for preaching in this group.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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User: "Josef Balluch"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 07:08:02 PM
In a message sent 'round the world, Apostle Keith Williams poured fuel
on the fire with the following:

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex
until married?

Ain't never happened, Bucko.

Those were the good old days when we obeyed God; ...

What caused you to change?

... so He made
our corn tall, ...

Except during a drought.

... wildflowers plenteous, ...

Yup. We can always use a few more dandelions.

... drove out harmful animals, ...

.... into someone else's village.

... and gave us
fresh water streams full of good fish, ...

Sounds like a fish story.

... and God kept us healthy and strong
and smart.

Too lazy to do it yourself?

In the Old Testament everybody was expected to be celibate
until married, and every child was expected to be immaculate.

Everyone has expectations, even today.

God has some
holy people today too.

Yup. You've definitely been had.
....
Regards,
Josef
There is no hope for the frustrated in the actual and the possible.
Salvation can come to them only from the miraculous, which seeps through
a crack in the iron wall of inexorable reality. They asked to be
deceived.
-- Eric Hoffer
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 03:29:22 PM
In our last episode <1da2e$41ed4c12$4f5dd58$28873@allthenewsgroups.com>,
Apostle Keith Williams lept out of the bushes shouting:

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do
sex
until married?

No.
I remember a day when people *lied about having sex before marriage...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 04:12:21 PM
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:48:29 -0500, "Apostle Keith Williams"
<apostlekeithwilliams@juno.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex
until married?

This would be when? People have always had sex outside of marriage.

Those were the good old days when we obeyed God; so He made
our corn tall, wildflowers plenteous, drove out harmful animals, and gave us
fresh water streams full of good fish, and God kept us healthy and strong
and smart.

Um, good farming techniques lead to tall corn, hunters drive out
harmful animals, and until science got rid of them people died in
droves from diseases like smallpox.

In the Old Testament everybody was expected to be celibate
until married, and every child was expected to be immaculate.

Except for King David. And Soloman. And Lot and his daughters.

God has some
holy people today too. When your town becomes wicked, sell your house and
move away to where God shows you. Hold fast your love in God. Thank You
God in the Lord Jesus' name.

Good plan: Run away.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.
User: "Neil Kelsey"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 06:48:01 PM

In the Old Testament everybody was expected to be celibate
until married, and every child was expected to be immaculate.


Except for King David. And Soloman. And Lot and his daughters.

What does that even mean? "Every child was expected to be immaculate?" Does
that mean every birth was supposed to be a virgin birth? I need
clarification here. Lard Jaysus, these people are giving me a headache.
.


User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 01:52:01 PM
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:48:29 -0500, "Apostle Keith Williams"
<apostlekeithwilliams@juno.com> said in alt.atheism:

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex
until married?

Uh, no. How many millennia ago was that?
(We've been 'doing sex before we were married' since before there were
human beings.)

Those were the good old days when we obeyed God; so He made
our corn tall, wildflowers plenteous, drove out harmful animals, and gave us
fresh water streams full of good fish, and God kept us healthy and strong
and smart.

Oh, you meant in your fantasy world.
Corn is an invention of man. Without our propagating it, corn would
become extinct.
Man was subject to predation by all manner of animal until quite
recently.
Most streams aren't that full of fish.
Man, for most of his existence, has been subject to all kinds of
illness, weakness and stupidity.
--
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
-A. Einstein (1929 -- Einstein Archive 33-272)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 02:31:14 PM
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:48:29 -0500, "Apostle Keith Williams"
<apostlekeithwilliams@juno.com> wrote:

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex
until married?

No, and neither do you. The "good old days" you're describing are a
complete fantasy.
.

User: "Les Hellawell"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 01:04:58 PM
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:48:29 -0500, "Apostle Keith Williams"
<apostlekeithwilliams@juno.com> wrote:

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex
until married?

If you think of any time in the past and remove you rose coloured
spectacles and see everything and not just the things you want
to see you will find things are not so wonderful as you seem to
think they were.

Those were the good old days when we obeyed God;

You mean when you 'thought' you obeyed what you describe as god.
In reality many were obeying what the would be controllers of men
told us what to obey. Is this what you want again? A society under the
control of a self-imposed elite telling us what we can or cannot do
under the pretence they they speak for something that does not
exist

so He made
our corn tall, wildflowers plenteous, drove out harmful animals, and gave us
fresh water streams full of good fish, and God kept us healthy and strong
and smart.

We are managing to do just fine on our own. Our Pennine Dams are full
of fresh soft water. Our supermarket shelves are filled with quality
cheap food. I have just enjoyed a good season of English Egremont
Russell apples, the finest apple you can buy and I have never attended
a single church service or prayed to a god to enjoy them. This lunch
time I enjoyed a chicken sandwich made from delicious bread I baked
last night. Things are certainly better now than they were in the
dreary fifties when we had post war rationing and few had sex before
marriage.
If there is a link between celibacy and abundance of crops then it
seem that the more celibiate we were the poore things were but then
it might be just a matter of rising prosperity in Europe following
recovery after the worst war in Human history.

In the Old Testament everybody was expected to be celibate
until married, and every child was expected to be immaculate. God has some
holy people today too. When your town becomes wicked, sell your house and
move away to where God shows you. Hold fast your love in God. Thank Youe
God in the Lord Jesus' name.

Not sure what you mean by wicked but how other people live their
lives is no business of mine providing they don't bother me. If you
learned to mind your own business and not intefere in how others live
thei lives perhaps you won't need to live in a mobile home.
--
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
.

User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 12:10:59 PM
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:48:29 -0500, "Apostle Keith Williams"
<apostlekeithwilliams@juno.com> wrote:

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex
until married? Those were the good old days when we obeyed God; so He made
our corn tall, wildflowers plenteous, drove out harmful animals, and gave us
fresh water streams full of good fish, and God kept us healthy and strong
and smart. In the Old Testament everybody was expected to be celibate
until married, and every child was expected to be immaculate. God has some
holy people today too. When your town becomes wicked, sell your house and
move away to where God shows you. Hold fast your love in God. Thank You
God in the Lord Jesus' name.
KW.

***** offf and die, moron.
Why are so many of you sociop[aths so deliberately rude that you wipe
your ***** in our faces?
.

User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 12:30:54 PM
on 18 Jan 2005 in alt.atheism, Apostle Keith Williams dropped trou,
farted, whirled, then shouted:

Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't
do sex until married?

What would be good about that?

Those were the good old days when we obeyed God; so
He made our corn tall, wildflowers plenteous, drove out harmful
animals, and gave us fresh water streams full of good fish,

*****. Proper fertilization and irrigation techniques, combined with
the right weather made the corn grow tall.

and God
kept us healthy and strong and smart.

Wasn't it the church's goal to keep people stupid? 'Cause stupid people
are more apt to nod their heads, believe whatever you say, and leave you
their money in the name of Jeezuz.

In the Old Testament everybody
was expected to be celibate until married, and every child was
expected to be immaculate.

But somehow it wasn't, was it? Please remove the bible pasted to your
forehead and see the world as it really is.

God has some holy people today too.

Jerry Foolwell, and Pat Robberson are con artists, no different from the
guys that used to sell snake oil at the carnival.

When your town becomes wicked, sell your house and move away to where
God shows you. Hold fast your love in God. Thank You God in the
Lord Jesus' name. KW.

Preaching is not welcome in alt.atheism. Take it to the christina groups
where it will be appreciated.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are the kind
of people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place? --George Carlin
.
User: "raven1"

Title: Re: When love was love only. 18 Jan 2005 02:32:13 PM
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:30:54 -0600, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:

Those were the good old days when we obeyed God; so
He made our corn tall, wildflowers plenteous, drove out harmful
animals, and gave us fresh water streams full of good fish,


*****. Proper fertilization and irrigation techniques, combined with
the right weather made the corn grow tall.

Don't forget the sacrifices!
.



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