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"Meteorite Debris" |
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11 Oct 2004 09:13:45 AM |
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When will John Howard leave? |
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
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epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived." - Isaac Asimov
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| User: "Charles L" |
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11 Oct 2004 11:11:10 AM |
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"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
If he retires who's there to replace him?
Charles L
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| User: "Mike Price" |
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11 Oct 2004 03:24:40 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:11:10 GMT, "Charles L" <tjf00@dodo.com.au>
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If he retires who's there to replace him?
I don't think it really matter's at this stage. The way labor are
looking, Fozzie Bear could knock them off in 2007.
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| User: "Bob Bain" |
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11 Oct 2004 04:53:59 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:24:40 +0800, Mike Price
<mickp@nospamiinet.net.au> wrote in message id
<evqlm0lvpp8mhr0gar3ut6pp54v7c3svi3@4ax.com>:
If he retires who's there to replace him?
I don't think it really matter's at this stage. The way labor are
looking, Fozzie Bear could knock them off in 2007.
I am sometimes reminded of my "mature years". It seems but yesterday
when Bill Hayden (ALP) leader of that party remarked that given the
state of affairs in the parliament even A drover's dog could defeat
the liberals...
It wasn't yesterday. It was 1983....
http://www.australianpolitics.com/elections/1983/
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March 5, 1983
The 1983 election brought to an end 7 years of coalition government
and ushered in the first of 5 successive election wins for the ALP.
The coalition government led by Malcolm Fraser had to contend with a
parlous economic situation with high inflation and high unemployment.
The nation had seen an increase in industrial disputation and many
rural areas were gripped by drought.
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On the day he called the election, the ALP replaced its leader, Bill
Hayden, with Bob Hawke. Moves against Hayden had begun in earnest over
the Christmas holiday period. Stoically accepting his removal, Hayden
claimed that a "drover's dog" could lead the ALP to victory.
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Bob Hawke became the second longest serving Prime Minister in
history.......
There are cells in my memory banks that hold memories not found on
the Internet and not logged in archived history pages, be it those
related to censorship or otherwise.
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| User: "Bob Bain" |
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| Title: Re: When will John Howard leave? |
12 Oct 2004 05:41:35 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:53:59 +1000, Bob Bain <bob_bainMUNG@tpg.com.au>
wrote in message id <cpvlm0to3tcico43ll10v8ssj2tdekjtfo@4ax.com>:
The 1983 election brought to an end 7 years of coalition government
and ushered in the first of 5 successive election wins for the ALP.
The coalition government led by Malcolm Fraser had to contend with a
parlous economic situation with high inflation and high unemployment.
As a footnote the prime cause of the inflation and unemployment was
possibly the continued unrest by the trade union movement of the time
- spearheaded by Bob Hawke himself.
When he came to power it was Hawke (and Keating) who put into place
the policies that Malcolm Fraser had thought about but never
implemented.
Malcolm Fraser was by my own definition a "softie" and being a strong
believer in a multi-cultural society was appointed by Prime Minsiter
Hawke to an international role in that capacity. I don't recall the
details.
And this is a reminder that the policies we have regarding censorship
in the States (and the legislation) were established (in part) by ALP
adminstrations.
I recall Paul Keating being quizzed on social policy with regards to
sexual material. He came over in that brief instance as a moral
conservative.....
... and the current Liberal government endorsed the largely
meaningless "X" rating in spite of opposition from Fred Nile and Co.
Some might like to think about that.
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| User: "petra" |
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11 Oct 2004 09:46:42 AM |
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"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
He's won the right to set his own date, but I would think that he'll give
Peter 12 months lead time.
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| User: "fasgnadh" |
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11 Oct 2004 09:37:33 AM |
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petra wrote:
"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
Get a LIFE! B^D
He's won the right to set his own date, but I would think that he'll give
Peter 12 months lead time.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAA
Oh, Howard will be leading him around by the nose for MUCH LONGER
than 12 months! B^Dd
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| User: "Brash" |
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12 Oct 2004 04:31:30 AM |
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"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:416A9AAD.9020802@yahoo.com.au...
petra wrote:
"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
Get a LIFE! B^D
You should fuckin talk!
--
"The code of the warrior has room for fallibility but there is no room
for a lack of integrity."
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| User: "kvaughan" |
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15 Oct 2004 01:15:39 AM |
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fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:<416A9AAD.9020802@yahoo.com.au>...
petra wrote:
"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
Get a LIFE! B^D
Must be a Liberal Party supporter?
He's won the right to set his own date, but I would think that he'll give
Peter 12 months lead time.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAA
Oh, Howard will be leading him around by the nose for MUCH LONGER
than 12 months! B^Dd
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| User: "Pauldo" |
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11 Oct 2004 10:07:45 AM |
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"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
have you ever considered assassination? might have interesting side affects
apart from putting j ho out of business
note to ASIO spooks: jk :P
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| User: "Dont Blame Clayton...He Didnt Vote For The Rat Faced Bastard" |
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11 Oct 2004 06:31:51 PM |
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"Pauldo" <skinnyware@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:416aa1a4$0$1291$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
have you ever considered assassination? might have interesting side
affects
apart from putting j ho out of business
note to ASIO spooks: jk :P
Assassination is the worst of all idea....not just because it's morally
wrong...but because it makes a martyr out of the person killed. Killing a
politician increases the power of their ideology a thousand fold. There
have even been circumstances where people have been assassinated to
deliberately increase the power of that persons cause. The last thing I
want to see happen is have rat boy become a hero. When the gallons of *****
inevitably hit the fan and the moronic Australian public see how massive the
mistake they have made is....I want to see Howard and his brood suffer a
slow, embarrassing decline and have to live with the after math of what they
do to this country for the rest of their lives.
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| User: "Richard Willoughby" |
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12 Oct 2004 10:15:44 PM |
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Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au>...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
Well I do not think Howard will leave anytime soon, he is enjoying the
job too much and he has a lot of thing has been aching to do since
1996. Either he will leave in a coffin or retire when the mother of
all recessions occur (triggered by the bursting of the property and
household debt bubble).
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| User: "Liz" |
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11 Oct 2004 07:00:40 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:43:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com>
in news message <MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
[----]
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
I take it that you don't have term limits for your PM. I thank Lint®
that here in the US, Presidents can only serve for eight years max.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Dont Blame Clayton...He Didnt Vote For The Rat Faced Bastard" |
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11 Oct 2004 07:46:54 PM |
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"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:du7mm0lf7u344gin2edlmi9qg6po25ao0d@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:43:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com>
in news message <MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
[----]
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
I take it that you don't have term limits for your PM. I thank Lint®
that here in the US, Presidents can only serve for eight years max.
10 actually...they can serve two full four year terms maximum, but may also
serve out two years of a previous term should the previous President die or
be removed from office.
No limit in Australia...as long as you can bribe the populace every three
years they will happily march off the edge of the cliff with a smile on
their face.
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| User: "Liz" |
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11 Oct 2004 08:23:53 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:46:54 +1000, "Don't Blame Clayton...He Didn't
Vote For The Rat Faced *****" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> in
news message <416b29e1$0$10348$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> wrote:
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:du7mm0lf7u344gin2edlmi9qg6po25ao0d@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:43:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com>
in news message <MPG.1bd51cf7b79f6556989efb@news.optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
[----]
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
I take it that you don't have term limits for your PM. I thank Lint®
that here in the US, Presidents can only serve for eight years max.
10 actually...they can serve two full four year terms maximum, but may also
serve out two years of a previous term should the previous President die or
be removed from office.
LOL You are absolutely correct. I should have stated it differently.
No limit in Australia...as long as you can bribe the populace every three
years they will happily march off the edge of the cliff with a smile on
their face.
That's too bad. Really.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Brett Mount" |
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12 Oct 2004 07:21:13 AM |
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The sirens are screaming and Liz is howling way down in aus.censorship
tonight:
}On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:46:54 +1000, "Don't Blame Clayton...He Didn't
}Vote For The Rat Faced *****" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> in
}news message <416b29e1$0$10348$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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}>No limit in Australia...as long as you can bribe the populace every three
}>years they will happily march off the edge of the cliff with a smile on
}>their face.
}
}That's too bad. Really.
Presuming a democratic election is the preferred way to choose a leader,
and further presuming they come up for reelection with reasonable
frequency, I'm not sure why a term restriction would necessarily be a Good
Thing- one imagines that an informed electorate is quite capable of booting
out the incumbent when the time is right, without any constitutional help.
Of course, we have compulsory voting and a rather different party system to
you blokes in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, so there may
be some effect I'm overlooking. (I'm given to understand that Amendment
XXII was introduced partly in fear of a personality cult moving the USA
towards a dictatorship, but traditionally Aussies have not been so
respectful of their Great Leaders that this would be likely here).
Then again, you may have been indicating that it's too bad that the
Australian electrate is so uninterested in their domestic politics, in
which case I agree.
--
Regards
Brett.
"Never Stop Rocking"
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| User: "duke" |
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13 Oct 2004 06:06:41 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:43:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
Sounds like he is a good man, and plans to be around for a while.
Too bad, md.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Jackeroo" |
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13 Oct 2004 06:53:26 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:u6drm01febt80j7jqig1hnc8qm1i2l88gv@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:43:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com>
wrote:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goodbyejohnhoward/
In this group members predict the date and method of departure of John
Howard from the Prime Ministership of Australia. There can also be
discussion of the reasons for any such predictions. Members are also
exoected to add to the table in the database section their own
prediction.
John Howard has been PM of Australia since 1996. In December 2004 he
will become the second longest serving PM in Australian history. When
will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
Sounds like he is a good man, and plans to be around for a while.
Too bad, md.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
Convinced me? Majority of voters are bald litle guys over retiring age?
I tink it's mazing - As Clive says - the only place any balding, past
retirement age , prevaricating American can pick up a job is as Prime
Minister of Australia.
Where else will he find a job where he can send all the goodies he wants to
his loved ones, old schools, any private hospital that ever treated him, and
all he has to do is say another prevaricator in America is a lovely guy?
The ever grateful public of battlers will drag itself , toothlessly ,
painfully around with it's various ailments , pains and disabilities ,
jobless, although India and China thank him for following Bush;'s
outsourcing of Jobs, tax cuts for all the rich and wage cuts for all the
others?
And our now invisible Jewish population thank him, because now how can he
say anything but Jews are non issues without collecting blame for all those
terrorist deaths?
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| User: "duke" |
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14 Oct 2004 05:37:48 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:53:26 GMT, "Jackeroo" <jackeroo@ronospamck.com> wrote:
Sounds like he is a good man, and plans to be around for a while.
Too bad, md.
Convinced me? Majority of voters are bald litle guys over retiring age?
I tink it's mazing - As Clive says - the only place any balding, past
retirement age , prevaricating American can pick up a job is as Prime
Minister of Australia.
Where else will he find a job where he can send all the goodies he wants to
his loved ones, old schools, any private hospital that ever treated him, and
all he has to do is say another prevaricator in America is a lovely guy?
The ever grateful public of battlers will drag itself , toothlessly ,
painfully around with it's various ailments , pains and disabilities ,
jobless, although India and China thank him for following Bush;'s
outsourcing of Jobs, tax cuts for all the rich and wage cuts for all the
others?
And our now invisible Jewish population thank him, because now how can he
say anything but Jews are non issues without collecting blame for all those
terrorist deaths?
Wow.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Je=DFus?=" |
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13 Oct 2004 05:45:12 PM |
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On Tuesday 12 October 2004 00:13, Meteorite Debris [ ]
wrote:
When will he leave and how? Will he retire, lose an election or be ousted
by a contender or will he be carried out in a box? Finding the answer
to this is the purpose of this group.
Its simple... once he has finally managed to give Telstra away to his
masters, his job will be done.
--
Jeßus
P.S. - this is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were
eliminated.
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