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"Bill" |
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03 Aug 2003 07:27:21 PM |
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Which is the right one? |
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
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Bill Mech
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04 Aug 2003 02:59:29 AM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
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Bill Mech
wmech@att.net
Mine - of course!
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| User: "Ike Milligan" |
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03 Aug 2003 08:47:00 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
--
Bill Mech
wmech@att.net
All of them.
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| User: "Nakas" |
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| Title: Re: Which is the right one? |
03 Aug 2003 09:57:54 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
How about atheism and science.
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| User: "raven1" |
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03 Aug 2003 10:51:03 PM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:57:54 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
How about atheism and science.
He was talking about religions. Neither of the above qualifies.
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| User: "Nakas" |
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04 Aug 2003 02:57:28 AM |
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"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:57:54 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:JLhXa.83490$3o3.5755326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
How about atheism and science.
He was talking about religions. Neither of the above qualifies.
Well, they're both belief systems, and they're both correct.
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| User: "shund" |
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04 Aug 2003 08:48:03 AM |
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"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:57:54 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:JLhXa.83490$3o3.5755326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
How about atheism and science.
He was talking about religions. Neither of the above qualifies.
Well, they're both belief systems, and they're both correct.
If we're going to use "belief" to describe science, then we need to find
another term for what the religious folk do. "Accepting what you have
evidence to support" and "taking something as truth based on nothing but
'feelings'" are two totally different ways to define "believe."
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| User: "raven1" |
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04 Aug 2003 05:20:51 PM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:57:28 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:57:54 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:JLhXa.83490$3o3.5755326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
How about atheism and science.
He was talking about religions. Neither of the above qualifies.
Well, they're both belief systems, and they're both correct.
Science is a methodology; atheism the absence of god-belief. Neither
is a belief system in and of itself.
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| User: "Nakas" |
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05 Aug 2003 10:31:24 PM |
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"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:57:28 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:57:54 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:JLhXa.83490$3o3.5755326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
How about atheism and science.
He was talking about religions. Neither of the above qualifies.
Well, they're both belief systems, and they're both correct.
Science is a methodology; atheism the absence of god-belief. Neither
is a belief system in and of itself.
Science also includes vast amounts of knowledge, this knowledge is certainly
a belief system. Also, your sceptical views and opinions of religions
constitutes an atheistic belief system.
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| User: "raven1" |
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06 Aug 2003 05:58:41 PM |
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On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:31:24 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:57:28 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:57:54 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:JLhXa.83490$3o3.5755326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
How about atheism and science.
He was talking about religions. Neither of the above qualifies.
Well, they're both belief systems, and they're both correct.
Science is a methodology; atheism the absence of god-belief. Neither
is a belief system in and of itself.
Science also includes vast amounts of knowledge, this knowledge is certainly
a belief system. Also, your sceptical views and opinions of religions
constitutes an atheistic belief system.
<plonk>
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| User: "Nakas" |
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06 Aug 2003 08:19:38 PM |
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"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:31:24 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:57:28 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:57:54 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:JLhXa.83490$3o3.5755326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of
different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
How about atheism and science.
He was talking about religions. Neither of the above qualifies.
Well, they're both belief systems, and they're both correct.
Science is a methodology; atheism the absence of god-belief. Neither
is a belief system in and of itself.
Science also includes vast amounts of knowledge, this knowledge is
certainly
a belief system. Also, your sceptical views and opinions of religions
constitutes an atheistic belief system.
<plonk>
Glad I could help.
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| User: "Nokia" |
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04 Aug 2003 05:42:27 AM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:57:28 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
Well, they're both belief systems, and they're both correct.
Science is a belief system? How?
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Highpriest in the Church Of The Invisible Pink Unicorn
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| User: "Nakas" |
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05 Aug 2003 10:23:00 PM |
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"Nokia" <nokiamail@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:57:28 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
Well, they're both belief systems, and they're both correct.
Science is a belief system? How?
Because it's a collection of beliefs. Such as the belief that the earth is
round, the belief that the earth goes around the sun, the belief that the
planets go around the sun. And these beliefs are organized into a system,
just like a religion. Both religion and science are just a paradigms by
which people interpret the world, and that makes them both belief systems.
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| User: "Nokia" |
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06 Aug 2003 05:57:06 AM |
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On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:23:00 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Nokia" <nokiamail@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:57:28 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
Well, they're both belief systems, and they're both correct.
Science is a belief system? How?
Because it's a collection of beliefs. Such as the belief that the earth is
round, the belief that the earth goes around the sun, the belief that the
planets go around the sun. And these beliefs are organized into a system,
just like a religion. Both religion and science are just a paradigms by
which people interpret the world, and that makes them both belief systems.
No it doesn't. Religion consists of dogmatic beliefs, with no evidence
to back it up. Science consists of theories that explain empirical
data. Methinks they are different things.
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Highpriest in the Church Of The Invisible Pink Unicorn
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| User: "J.R." |
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04 Aug 2003 12:12:25 AM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<JLhXa.83490$3o3.5755326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
That's easy, the zeroth one.
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| User: "Ronald Dean" |
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06 Aug 2003 10:45:50 PM |
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"J.R." <hey-joe@swbell.net> wrote in message
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
That's easy, the zeroth one.
In your opinion. But opinions are worthless.
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07 Aug 2003 05:32:06 PM |
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"Ronald Dean" <rond@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<rQjYa.3874$ta2.667@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com>...
"J.R." <hey-joe@swbell.net> wrote in message
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
That's easy, the zeroth one.
In your opinion. But opinions are worthless.
Your gawd is a fraud.
That's a fact
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B Witbotl.
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07 Aug 2003 10:12:45 PM |
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:45:50 -0400, "Ronald Dean"
<rond@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"J.R." <hey-joe@swbell.net> wrote in message
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
That's easy, the zeroth one.
In your opinion. But opinions are worthless.
You believe that opinions are worthless, but all you have done is
to give us your opinion of J.R.'s words.
How about telling us what you hold to be worthwhile?
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Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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07 Aug 2003 09:17:27 AM |
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At some point in the past, J.R. <hey-joe@swbell.net> slavered, and
posted this:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
That's easy, the zeroth one.
Is that like the zeroth law of robotics? :)
--
Doug Semler
http://home.wideopenwest.com/~doug_semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
I hate spam, standard email address munging applied.
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DNRC o-
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| User: "Maria Underwood" |
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06 Aug 2003 05:16:57 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<JLhXa.83490$3o3.5755326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
This post automatically qualifies you as a troll. Be gone!
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03 Aug 2003 08:36:01 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Almost all religions claim their God is the only true God. Which is the
real God and which are the phonies?
Various countries have different versions of
Santa-Claus/Father-Christmas, and they don't recognize those of other
countries. Does that mean that one Santa must necessarily be the real
one?
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John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Bill" |
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04 Aug 2003 07:31:24 PM |
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No Santa is the real one and it may also be true that no God id the real
one. I have seen NO OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE of any real God.
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Bill Mech
wmech@att.net
"John Hattan" <john@thecodezone.com> wrote in message
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Almost all religions claim their God is the only true God. Which is the
real God and which are the phonies?
Various countries have different versions of
Santa-Claus/Father-Christmas, and they don't recognize those of other
countries. Does that mean that one Santa must necessarily be the real
one?
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John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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04 Aug 2003 12:59:39 AM |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:32:04 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John Hattan wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Almost all religions claim their God is the only true God. Which is
the real God and which are the phonies?
Various countries have different versions of
Santa-Claus/Father-Christmas, and they don't recognize those of other
countries. Does that mean that one Santa must necessarily be the real
one?
Seconds?
Seconded!
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| User: "*Nemo*" |
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06 Aug 2003 02:06:56 AM |
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In article <thtriv4pgkn03outucgbdreeg2jbu23pc0@4ax.com>,
raven1 <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:32:04 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John Hattan wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Almost all religions claim their God is the only true God. Which is
the real God and which are the phonies?
Various countries have different versions of
Santa-Claus/Father-Christmas, and they don't recognize those of other
countries. Does that mean that one Santa must necessarily be the real
one?
Seconds?
Seconded!
Recorded.
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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03 Aug 2003 11:05:52 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
=There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of
=different religious beliefs in the world. Which if any is the
=right one?
That depends on what you mean by "right".
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06 Aug 2003 10:43:16 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <> wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 00:27:21 GMT, a wanderer, known to us only as
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> warmed at our fire and told this
tale:
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
The religion practised by a tiny tribe in the Amazon. Alas, they were
wiped out a few years back, so we're all doomed to spend eternity with
Gibbons chewing our genitals off.
There are no Gibbons in the Amazon and chances are you don't believe
in a hearafter. Your comment is as logical and reasonable as the rest of
this
thread.
--
Douglas Berry
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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04 Aug 2003 05:59:23 PM |
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("Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>):
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
Mine.
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Jeremy Martin
I have an aa number, but I'd have to look it up.
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| User: "Yz Guy" |
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06 Aug 2003 03:06:59 AM |
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Bill wrote:
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
All you people keep ranting about is Christianity! The only true belief
is the paramatma. It is the supreme "soul" into which all atma's
(individual souls) will merge once they are free from the cycle of birth
and death!
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By remembering the paramatma in devotion
throughout one's life, and especially
at the time of death, one can attain to
His supreme abode, beyond the material world.
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06 Aug 2003 10:50:37 AM |
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Y'z Guy <yzguy@smartymail.com> wrote in message news:<VK2Ya.1$8K2.121@news.oracle.com>...
The only true belief is the paramatma.
Got any reason and/or evidence to back up that claim? If not, sorry
-- don't believe you. And, frankly, your claim sounds silly to me.
Hec
http://hectorplasmic.com
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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03 Aug 2003 09:09:12 PM |
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Bill wrote:
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
They can't all be right. They *can* all be wrong.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Ronald Dean" |
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06 Aug 2003 10:40:35 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Bill wrote:
There are hundreds of religions and tens of thousands of different
religious
beliefs in the world. Which if any is the right one?
They can't all be right.
And why not?
They *can* all be wrong.
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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