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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 16 Nov 2005 06:14:07 PM
Object: White phosphorus used in Iraq
And the problem is ....?
http://ansa.it/main/notizie/awnplus/english/news/2005-11-16_1976236.html
White phosphorus used in Iraq
ANSA) - Washington, November 16 - The Pentagon has admitted using white
phosphorus in Iraq but denies claims made by an Italian documentary that the
spontaneously flammable chemical was used against civilians .
Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable said on Tuesday that white
phosphorus was used as an incendiary weapon against insurgent strongholds
during the US military's siege of the Iraqi city of Falluja last year .
"It was not used against civilians," he said .
Washington had earlier denied the use of white phosphorus at all in Falluja,
a city just to the west of Baghdad which suffered widespread destruction
during the November 2004 offensive .
White phosphorus is a lethal chemical which is capable of burning and
melting human skin. The smoke it produces is capable of causing external and
internal chemical burns .
.

User: "Yournameheres personal Cthulhu"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 16 Nov 2005 07:32:24 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> suddenly spluttered:

And the problem is ....?

In one word: Duplicity.
------------------------------------------------
Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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User: "S. Maizlich"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 29 Nov 2005 07:14:18 AM
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> suddenly spluttered:


And the problem is ....?

The problem is, we're supposed to be the good guys.
Enron and Geraldo Rivera and shitbags skate up right to
the edge of what's allowed. The U.S., ostensibly the
beacon of liberty and justice to the rest of the world,
should be well behind the line. White phosphorus puts
us over the line, even if there's some way the
administration liars - or lawyers; same thing - can
spin it to make it look legal.
.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 29 Nov 2005 07:19:43 AM
"S. Maizlich" wrote
: <Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
: > "J Young" suddenly spluttered:
: >
: >
: >>And the problem is ....?
:
: The problem is, we're supposed to be the good guys.
: Enron and Geraldo Rivera and shitbags skate up right to
: the edge of what's allowed. The U.S., ostensibly the
: beacon of liberty and justice to the rest of the world,
: should be well behind the line. White phosphorus puts
: us over the line, even if there's some way the
: administration liars - or lawyers; same thing - can
: spin it to make it look legal.
There is no way to make the use of white phosphorus incendiary weapons
against human targets look legal!
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn't a choice or act of will - like theism; it's a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "S. Maizlich"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 29 Nov 2005 07:22:47 AM
Bear wrote:

"S. Maizlich" wrote
: <Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
: > "J Young" suddenly spluttered:
: >
: >
: >>And the problem is ....?
:
: The problem is, we're supposed to be the good guys.
: Enron and Geraldo Rivera and shitbags skate up right to
: the edge of what's allowed. The U.S., ostensibly the
: beacon of liberty and justice to the rest of the world,
: should be well behind the line. White phosphorus puts
: us over the line, even if there's some way the
: administration liars - or lawyers; same thing - can
: spin it to make it look legal.

There is no way to make the use of white phosphorus incendiary weapons
against human targets look legal!

Sure you can; at least, against military targets. But
you can't make it look *right*.
.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 29 Nov 2005 07:38:03 AM
"S. Maizlich" wrote
: Bear wrote:
: > "S. Maizlich" wrote
: > : <Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
: > : > "J Young" suddenly spluttered:
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >>And the problem is ....?
: > :
: > : The problem is, we're supposed to be the good guys.
: > : Enron and Geraldo Rivera and shitbags skate up right to
: > : the edge of what's allowed. The U.S., ostensibly the
: > : beacon of liberty and justice to the rest of the world,
: > : should be well behind the line. White phosphorus puts
: > : us over the line, even if there's some way the
: > : administration liars - or lawyers; same thing - can
: > : spin it to make it look legal.
: >
: > There is no way to make the use of white phosphorus incendiary weapons
: > against human targets look legal!
:
: Sure you can; at least, against military targets. But
: you can't make it look *right*.
It is illegal to use white phosphorus against human targets, military or
otherwise.
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn't a choice or act of will - like theism; it's a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "S. Maizlich"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 29 Nov 2005 08:08:37 AM
Bear wrote:

"S. Maizlich" wrote
: Bear wrote:
: > "S. Maizlich" wrote
: > : <Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
: > : > "J Young" suddenly spluttered:
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >>And the problem is ....?
: > :
: > : The problem is, we're supposed to be the good guys.
: > : Enron and Geraldo Rivera and shitbags skate up right to
: > : the edge of what's allowed. The U.S., ostensibly the
: > : beacon of liberty and justice to the rest of the world,
: > : should be well behind the line. White phosphorus puts
: > : us over the line, even if there's some way the
: > : administration liars - or lawyers; same thing - can
: > : spin it to make it look legal.
: >
: > There is no way to make the use of white phosphorus incendiary weapons
: > against human targets look legal!
:
: Sure you can; at least, against military targets. But
: you can't make it look *right*.

It is illegal to use white phosphorus against human targets, military or
otherwise.

False.
.






User: "Les Hemmings"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 16 Nov 2005 08:27:47 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:sKydncmd7O_E6ubeRVn-sA@giganews.com...

And the problem is ....?



http://ansa.it/main/notizie/awnplus/english/news/2005-11-16_1976236.html



White phosphorus used in Iraq

Before it was only one country, one dictator. But now it's the US, UK a
smattering of others and Iraqis all dying over there. The US is using
chemical weapons, the very thing they went to war to stop. The US and Iraq
are incarcerating people and torturing them not only in Abu Grahib but in
clandestine sites in Iraq and eastern europe.
Also, Saddam Hussein was a secular ductator. Now, the coalition and Iraq
and the insurgents all claim to have a god on their side...
Seems t'would have been better to leave well alone.... it's religion
that's caused/ is causing this whole mess. Shrub claimed a direct message
from god to invade. The insurgents cry Allah Akbar! as they detonate their
bombs strapped to their bodies.
Always been the bloody same..
Les
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leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and
exposing the country to greater danger "
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temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759
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User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 16 Nov 2005 06:24:59 PM
"J Young" wrote
: ANSA) - Washington, November 16 - The Pentagon has admitted using white
: phosphorus in Iraq but denies claims made by an Italian documentary that
the
: spontaneously flammable chemical was used against civilians .
:
: Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable said on Tuesday that white
: phosphorus was used as an incendiary weapon against insurgent strongholds
: during the US military's siege of the Iraqi city of Falluja last year .
:
: "It was not used against civilians," he said .
:
: Washington had earlier denied the use of white phosphorus at all in
Falluja,
: a city just to the west of Baghdad which suffered widespread destruction
: during the November 2004 offensive .
:
: White phosphorus is a lethal chemical which is capable of burning and
: melting human skin. The smoke it produces is capable of causing external
and
: internal chemical burns .
Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical weapon".
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn’t a choice or act of will — like theism; it’s a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 16 Nov 2005 08:12:18 PM
Bear wrote:

"J Young" wrote
: ANSA) - Washington, November 16 - The Pentagon has admitted using white
: phosphorus in Iraq but denies claims made by an Italian documentary that
the
: spontaneously flammable chemical was used against civilians .
:
: Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable said on Tuesday that white
: phosphorus was used as an incendiary weapon against insurgent strongholds
: during the US military's siege of the Iraqi city of Falluja last year .
:
: "It was not used against civilians," he said .
:
: Washington had earlier denied the use of white phosphorus at all in
Falluja,
: a city just to the west of Baghdad which suffered widespread destruction
: during the November 2004 offensive .
:
: White phosphorus is a lethal chemical which is capable of burning and
: melting human skin. The smoke it produces is capable of causing external
and
: internal chemical burns .

Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical weapon".

Except that it is.
Oh. Ok, I get it now.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[W]e have never held that moral disapproval, without any other asserted
state interest, is a sufficient rationale under the Equal Protection
Clause to justify a law that discriminates among groups of persons."
- Sandra Day O`Conner, _Lawrence v Texas_
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=000&invol=02-102
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User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 16 Nov 2005 08:16:41 PM
"Gregory Gadow" wrote
: Bear wrote:
: > "J Young" wrote
: > : ANSA) - Washington, November 16 - The Pentagon has admitted using
white
: > : phosphorus in Iraq but denies claims made by an Italian documentary
that
: > the
: > : spontaneously flammable chemical was used against civilians .
: > :
: > : Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable said on Tuesday that white
: > : phosphorus was used as an incendiary weapon against insurgent
strongholds
: > : during the US military's siege of the Iraqi city of Falluja last year
..
: > :
: > : "It was not used against civilians," he said .
: > :
: > : Washington had earlier denied the use of white phosphorus at all in
: > Falluja,
: > : a city just to the west of Baghdad which suffered widespread
destruction
: > : during the November 2004 offensive .
: > :
: > : White phosphorus is a lethal chemical which is capable of burning and
: > : melting human skin. The smoke it produces is capable of causing
external
: > and
: > : internal chemical burns .
: >
: > Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical weapon".
:
: Except that it is.
Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.
: Oh. Ok, I get it now.
You get what now?
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn't a choice or act of will - like theism; it's a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 16 Nov 2005 10:20:25 PM
In News _aKdnUhgtLciDubeRVn-tA@comcast.com,, Bear at
bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net, typed this:

"Gregory Gadow" wrote

Bear wrote:

"J Young" wrote

ANSA) - Washington, November 16 - The Pentagon has admitted using
white phosphorus in Iraq but denies claims made by an Italian
documentary that the spontaneously flammable chemical was used
against civilians .

Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable said on Tuesday that
white phosphorus was used as an incendiary weapon against
insurgent strongholds during the US military's siege of the Iraqi
city of Falluja last year .

"It was not used against civilians," he said .

Washington had earlier denied the use of white phosphorus at all
in Falluja, a city just to the west of Baghdad which suffered
widespread destruction during the November 2004 offensive .

White phosphorus is a lethal chemical which is capable of burning
and melting human skin. The smoke it produces is capable of
causing external and internal chemical burns .


Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical weapon".


Except that it is.


Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.

Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a weapon... What else
do you need?


Oh. Ok, I get it now.


You get what now?

--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Llanzlan Klazmon"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 16 Nov 2005 11:50:15 PM
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in
news:JgOef.9335$2y.3865@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: <SNIP>

Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical weapon".


Except that it is.


Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.


Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a weapon... What
else do you need?

Gunpowder meets the same criteria.
Klazmon




Oh. Ok, I get it now.


You get what now?


.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 17 Nov 2005 12:00:12 AM
"Llanzlan Klazmon" wrote
: "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>> Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical weapon".
: >>>
: >>> Except that it is.
: >>
: >> Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.
: >
: > Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a weapon... What
: > else do you need?
:
: Gunpowder meets the same criteria.
That's really going to confuse them.
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn’t a choice or act of will — like theism; it’s a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 17 Nov 2005 02:20:23 AM
In News btidnTy7Ooi4VebenZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com,, Bear at
bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net, typed this:

"Llanzlan Klazmon" wrote

"Andrealphus" wrote

Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical
weapon".


Except that it is.


Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.


Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a weapon...
What else do you need?


Gunpowder meets the same criteria.


That's really going to confuse them.

It's apparently already confused the two of you. Let me know the names of
all the people wounded or killed by throwing gun powder on them.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 17 Nov 2005 02:27:33 AM
"Andrealphus" wrote
: Bear at typed this:
: > "Llanzlan Klazmon" wrote
: >> "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>>>> Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical
: >>>>>> weapon".
: >>>>>
: >>>>> Except that it is.
: >>>>
: >>>> Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.
: >>>
: >>> Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a weapon...
: >>> What else do you need?
: >>
: >> Gunpowder meets the same criteria.
: >
: > That's really going to confuse them.
:
: It's apparently already confused the two of you.
Not at all! Your argument is with the CWC.
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn’t a choice or act of will — like theism; it’s a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 17 Nov 2005 02:29:50 AM
In News ZIadna8K9oo2d-benZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com,, Bear at
bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net, typed this:

"Andrealphus" wrote

Bear at typed this:

"Llanzlan Klazmon" wrote

"Andrealphus" wrote

Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical
weapon".


Except that it is.


Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.


Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a weapon...
What else do you need?


Gunpowder meets the same criteria.


That's really going to confuse them.


It's apparently already confused the two of you.


Not at all! Your argument is with the CWC.

Cowardly cop out. Try again.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 17 Nov 2005 02:39:48 AM
"Andrealphus" wrote
: Bear typed this:
: > "Andrealphus" wrote
: >> Bear at typed this:
: >>> "Llanzlan Klazmon" wrote
: >>>> "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>>>>>> Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical
: >>>>>>>> weapon".
: >>>>>>>
: >>>>>>> Except that it is.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a weapon...
: >>>>> What else do you need?
: >>>>
: >>>> Gunpowder meets the same criteria.
: >>>
: >>> That's really going to confuse them.
: >>
: >> It's apparently already confused the two of you.
: >
: > Not at all! Your argument is with the CWC.
:
: Cowardly cop out. Try again.
*****! I am going by what the CWC says. If you don't agree with the CWC,
your argument is with them.
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn’t a choice or act of will — like theism; it’s a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 17 Nov 2005 02:42:53 AM
In News af-dnYpNkuoXcObeRVn-jg@comcast.com,, Bear at
bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net, typed this:

"Andrealphus" wrote

Bear typed this:

"Andrealphus" wrote

Bear at typed this:

"Llanzlan Klazmon" wrote

"Andrealphus" wrote

Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical
weapon".


Except that it is.


Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.


Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a weapon...
What else do you need?


Gunpowder meets the same criteria.


That's really going to confuse them.


It's apparently already confused the two of you.


Not at all! Your argument is with the CWC.


Cowardly cop out. Try again.


*****! I am going by what the CWC says. If you don't agree with
the CWC, your argument is with them.

No coward, my argument is with you. The CWC isn't posting, you are.
Stop copping out.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 17 Nov 2005 02:51:20 AM
"Andrealphus" wrote
: Bear typed this:
: > "Andrealphus" wrote
: >> Bear typed this:
: >>> "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>> Bear at typed this:
: >>>>> "Llanzlan Klazmon" wrote
: >>>>>> "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical
: >>>>>>>>>> weapon".
: >>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>> Except that it is.
: >>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>> Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.
: >>>>>>>
: >>>>>>> Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a weapon...
: >>>>>>> What else do you need?
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> Gunpowder meets the same criteria.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> That's really going to confuse them.
: >>>>
: >>>> It's apparently already confused the two of you.
: >>>
: >>> Not at all! Your argument is with the CWC.
: >>
: >> Cowardly cop out. Try again.
: >
: > *****! I am going by what the CWC says. If you don't agree with
: > the CWC, your argument is with them.
:
: No coward, my argument is with you. The CWC isn't posting, you are.
Listen dumbass, I am just going by what the CWC says. If you disagree with
me, you disagree with the CWC.
: Stop copping out.
Quit lying!
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn’t a choice or act of will — like theism; it’s a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 17 Nov 2005 02:56:40 AM
In News 2cednfiylYejbebeRVn-rQ@comcast.com,, Bear at
bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net, typed this:

"Andrealphus" wrote

Bear typed this:

"Andrealphus" wrote

Bear typed this:

"Andrealphus" wrote

Bear at typed this:

"Llanzlan Klazmon" wrote

"Andrealphus" wrote

Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical
weapon".


Except that it is.


Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.


Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a
weapon... What else do you need?


Gunpowder meets the same criteria.


That's really going to confuse them.


It's apparently already confused the two of you.


Not at all! Your argument is with the CWC.


Cowardly cop out. Try again.


*****! I am going by what the CWC says. If you don't agree with
the CWC, your argument is with them.


No coward, my argument is with you. The CWC isn't posting, you are.


Listen dumbass, I am just going by what the CWC says. If you disagree
with me, you disagree with the CWC.

*****.


Stop copping out.


Quit lying!

You're the only liar here. I will prove to you that Phosphorus is a
chemical. Be careful opening your mail. Maybe you'll have a friend
around to pick it out of your stupid *****.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 17 Nov 2005 03:04:43 AM
"Andrealphus" wrote
: Bear typed this:
: > "Andrealphus" wrote
: >> Bear typed this:
: >>> "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>> Bear typed this:
: >>>>> "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>>>> Bear at typed this:
: >>>>>>> "Llanzlan Klazmon" wrote
: >>>>>>>> "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical
: >>>>>>>>>>>> weapon".
: >>>>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>>>> Except that it is.
: >>>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>>> Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.
: >>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>> Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a
: >>>>>>>>> weapon... What else do you need?
: >>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>> Gunpowder meets the same criteria.
: >>>>>>>
: >>>>>>> That's really going to confuse them.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> It's apparently already confused the two of you.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> Not at all! Your argument is with the CWC.
: >>>>
: >>>> Cowardly cop out. Try again.
: >>>
: >>> *****! I am going by what the CWC says. If you don't agree with
: >>> the CWC, your argument is with them.
: >>
: >> No coward, my argument is with you. The CWC isn't posting, you are.
: >
: > Listen dumbass, I am just going by what the CWC says. If you disagree
: > with me, you disagree with the CWC.
:
: *****.
Why are you *afraid* to check it out?
: >> Stop copping out.
: >
: > Quit lying!
:
: You're the only liar here.
No, you are!
: I will prove to you that Phosphorus is a
: chemical.
LOL!!! I never said that white phosporus is not a chemical.
: Be careful opening your mail.
Is that supposed to be a threat?
: Maybe you'll have a friend
: around to pick it out of your stupid *****.
LOL!!!
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn’t a choice or act of will — like theism; it’s a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "Tim McGaughy"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 18 Nov 2005 04:58:07 AM
Bear wrote:

"Andrealphus" wrote
: Bear typed this:
: > "Andrealphus" wrote
: >> Bear typed this:
: >>> "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>> Bear typed this:
: >>>>> "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>>>> Bear at typed this:
: >>>>>>> "Llanzlan Klazmon" wrote
: >>>>>>>> "Andrealphus" wrote
: >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for not inaccurately labeling it as a "chemical
: >>>>>>>>>>>> weapon".
: >>>>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>>>> Except that it is.
: >>>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>>> Show me where it is "classified" as a chemical weapon.
: >>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>> Common sense? It is a chemical, and it was used as a
: >>>>>>>>> weapon... What else do you need?
: >>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>> Gunpowder meets the same criteria.
: >>>>>>>
: >>>>>>> That's really going to confuse them.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> It's apparently already confused the two of you.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> Not at all! Your argument is with the CWC.
: >>>>
: >>>> Cowardly cop out. Try again.
: >>>
: >>> *****! I am going by what the CWC says. If you don't agree with
: >>> the CWC, your argument is with them.
: >>
: >> No coward, my argument is with you. The CWC isn't posting, you are.
: >
: > Listen dumbass, I am just going by what the CWC says. If you disagree
: > with me, you disagree with the CWC.
:
: *****.

Why are you *afraid* to check it out?

: >> Stop copping out.
: >
: > Quit lying!
:
: You're the only liar here.

No, you are!

: I will prove to you that Phosphorus is a
: chemical.

LOL!!! I never said that white phosporus is not a chemical.

: Be careful opening your mail.

Is that supposed to be a threat?

: Maybe you'll have a friend
: around to pick it out of your stupid *****.

LOL!!!

This is the most retarded argument ever.
.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 18 Nov 2005 05:18:30 AM
"Tim McGaughy" wrote:
: This is the most retarded argument ever.
Do you think your opinion is worth more than that of others? I don't.
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn't a choice or act of will - like theism; it's a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.

User: "Dave Hazelwood"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 18 Nov 2005 08:25:51 AM
so if Saddam had used willy pete on our forces ***** cheney never would have
referred to them as "chemical weapons" ?
if al queda were to use willy pete in a subway attack bush would ensure that
nobody confused that with the use of "chemical weapons" ????
a ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
don't kid me they would be tripping over each other to make sure ALL the
press repeated CHEMICAL WEAPONS ten times in every paragraph !!!
.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 18 Nov 2005 08:38:50 AM
"Dave Hazelwood" wrote
: so if Saddam had used willy pete on our forces ***** cheney never would
have
: referred to them as "chemical weapons" ?
Do you have objective evidence that he would have? And if he did, would he
have been accurate in doing so in accordance with the classification
according to the CWC? If he did, my objection would be the same.
: if al queda were to use willy pete in a subway attack bush would ensure
that
: nobody confused that with the use of "chemical weapons" ????
Do you have objective evidence that he would have? And if he did, would he
have been accurate in doing so in accordance with the classification
according to the CWC? If he did, my objection would be the same.
: a ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
:
: don't kid me they would be tripping over each other to make sure ALL the
: press repeated CHEMICAL WEAPONS ten times in every paragraph !!!
Do you have objective evidence that they would have? And if they did, would
they have been accurate in doing so in accordance with the classification
according to the CWC? If they did, my objection would be the same.
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn't a choice or act of will - like theism; it's a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 19 Nov 2005 08:55:31 PM
"Bear" <bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> writes:

"Dave Hazelwood" wrote
: so if Saddam had used willy pete on our forces ***** cheney never would
: have referred to them as "chemical weapons" ?

Do you have objective evidence that he would have?

We do have objective evidence that Cheney will lie shamelessly when
it suits his political agenda.
.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 19 Nov 2005 09:00:03 PM
"No One" wrote
: "Bear" writes:
: > "Dave Hazelwood" wrote
: > : so if Saddam had used willy pete on our forces ***** cheney never would
: > : have referred to them as "chemical weapons" ?
: >
: > Do you have objective evidence that he would have?
:
: We do have objective evidence that Cheney will lie shamelessly when
: it suits his political agenda.
Do you?
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn't a choice or act of will - like theism; it's a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 19 Nov 2005 09:02:16 PM
"Bear" <bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> writes:

"No One" wrote
: "Bear" writes:
: > "Dave Hazelwood" wrote
: > : so if Saddam had used willy pete on our forces ***** cheney never would
: > : have referred to them as "chemical weapons" ?
: >
: > Do you have objective evidence that he would have?
:
: We do have objective evidence that Cheney will lie shamelessly when
: it suits his political agenda.

Do you?

Yes, and you do to, at least if you bother to read any mainstream
newspapers.
.
User: "Bear"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 19 Nov 2005 09:17:32 PM
"No One" wrote
: "Bear" writes:
: > "No One" wrote
: > : "Bear" writes:
: > : > "Dave Hazelwood" wrote
: > : > : so if Saddam had used willy pete on our forces ***** cheney never
would
: > : > : have referred to them as "chemical weapons" ?
: > : >
: > : > Do you have objective evidence that he would have?
: > :
: > : We do have objective evidence that Cheney will lie shamelessly when
: > : it suits his political agenda.
: >
: > Do you?
:
: Yes, and you do to, at least if you bother to read any mainstream
: newspapers.
I don't bother. Besides, what does this have to do with how the CWC
classifies white phosphorus?
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn't a choice or act of will - like theism; it's a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: White phosphorus used in Iraq 20 Nov 2005 02:46:48 AM
"Bear" <bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> writes:

: > : We do have objective evidence that Cheney will lie shamelessly when
: > : it suits his political agenda.
: >
: > Do you?
:
: Yes, and you do to, at least if you bother to read any mainstream
: newspapers.

I don't bother. Besides, what does this have to do with how the CWC
classifies white phosphorus?

Read what I said. It was only one sentence long, 16 words total (15
for the second post).
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