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12 Aug 2003 09:28:10 PM |
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Who Else Is FAUX News Suing? |
Fox News sues website for "We Distort, You Comply" t-shirts
http://www.agitproperties.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php?products_id=1
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| User: "Alex" |
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13 Aug 2003 07:15:39 AM |
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:28:10 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
Fox News sues website for "We Distort, You Comply" t-shirts
http://www.agitproperties.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php?products_id=1
They're also suing Al Franken for his latest book's title:
Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at
the Right.
(While having Bill O'Reilly's picture under the word "Lies".)
FOX has "Fair and Balanced" trademarked. But this is just a bullying
tactic since a trademark is just to keep consumers from being confused
into thinking a product belongs to someone else. I doubt that any
consumer would be confused into thinking that Franken's book is really
from FOX when the book is obviously attacking one of their
"journalists".
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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13 Aug 2003 07:45:17 AM |
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Alex wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:28:10 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
Fox News sues website for "We Distort, You Comply" t-shirts
http://www.agitproperties.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php?products_id=1
They're also suing Al Franken for his latest book's title:
Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at
the Right.
(While having Bill O'Reilly's picture under the word "Lies".)
FOX has "Fair and Balanced" trademarked. But this is just a bullying
tactic since a trademark is just to keep consumers from being confused
into thinking a product belongs to someone else. I doubt that any
consumer would be confused into thinking that Franken's book is really
from FOX when the book is obviously attacking one of their
"journalists".
Fox screwed the pooch bigtime. Franken's book shot up the Amazon list
after they filed suit. The big dummies should have just kept quiet and
parodied him right back.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Craig Pennington" |
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13 Aug 2003 09:32:36 AM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Alex wrote:
[snip]
They're also suing Al Franken for his latest book's title:
Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at
the Right.
(While having Bill O'Reilly's picture under the word "Lies".)
[snip]
Fox screwed the pooch bigtime. Franken's book shot up the Amazon list
after they filed suit. The big dummies should have just kept quiet and
parodied him right back.
Fox only screwed the pooch if they wanted Franken ignored. But
controversy is good business. Franken and Fox have a mutual
interest in the big stink now surrounding this book -- money.
Call me cynical, but it looks like cheap publicity for both
parties.
Cheers,
Craig
--
Corollary to Clarke's Third Law:
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
advanced.
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| User: "Bob Dog" |
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14 Aug 2003 01:39:52 AM |
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Craig Pennington <cpenning@milo.org> wrote in message news:<4pup01-8di.ln1@milo.org>...
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Alex wrote:
[snip]
They're also suing Al Franken for his latest book's title:
Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at
the Right.
(While having Bill O'Reilly's picture under the word "Lies".)
[snip]
Fox screwed the pooch bigtime. Franken's book shot up the Amazon list
after they filed suit. The big dummies should have just kept quiet and
parodied him right back.
Fox only screwed the pooch if they wanted Franken ignored. But
controversy is good business. Franken and Fox have a mutual
interest in the big stink now surrounding this book -- money.
Call me cynical, but it looks like cheap publicity for both
parties.
Have you forgotten who owns the FUX networks?
Ruprect Murdoch has a long history of not tolerating
criticism of himself. He's the modern day Citizen Kane.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/07/1630856.php
http://www.fair.org/extra/0108/fox-main.html
http://media.guardian.co.uk/attack/story/0,1301,574427,00.html
http://www.imusa.org/campaigns/murdoch/murdoch01.shtml
http://www.abc.net.au/am/AMChronoidx1999_Friday26November1999.htm
"Monopolies are a terrible thing - unless you have one"
- Rupert Murdoch
Bob Dog
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| User: "Craig Pennington" |
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13 Aug 2003 04:45:35 PM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Craig Pennington wrote:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
[snip]
Fox screwed the pooch bigtime. Franken's book shot up the Amazon list
after they filed suit. The big dummies should have just kept quiet and
parodied him right back.
Fox only screwed the pooch if they wanted Franken ignored. But
controversy is good business. Franken and Fox have a mutual
interest in the big stink now surrounding this book -- money.
Call me cynical, but it looks like cheap publicity for both
parties.
FOX is a network: they can make all the publicity they want.
This got them covered on quite a few networks other than thier
own. Free advertising on CNN, NPR, CBS, NBC, BBCx, ABC etc. Do
you *really* think that they were otherwise motivated? C'mon,
the lawsuit is ridiculous on its face, unless viewed in the
context of drawing attention to themselves and the book.
Cheers,
Craig
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Corollary to Clarke's Third Law:
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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13 Aug 2003 06:40:18 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
in <3F3A846F.7040308@earthling.com>:
# Craig Pennington wrote:
# > Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
# >
# >>Alex wrote:
# >
# > [snip]
# >
# >>>They're also suing Al Franken for his latest book's title:
# >>>Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at
# >>>the Right.
# >>>(While having Bill O'Reilly's picture under the word "Lies".)
# >>
# > [snip]
# >
# >
# >>Fox screwed the pooch bigtime. Franken's book shot up the Amazon list
# >>after they filed suit. The big dummies should have just kept quiet and
# >>parodied him right back.
# >
# >
# > Fox only screwed the pooch if they wanted Franken ignored. But
# > controversy is good business. Franken and Fox have a mutual
# > interest in the big stink now surrounding this book -- money.
# > Call me cynical, but it looks like cheap publicity for both
# > parties.
# >
#
# FOX is a network: they can make all the publicity they want.
Fox is a mouthpiece for the RRR. It recently fought a lawsuit to
defend its "right" to lie, distort and mislead the public on a
matter of public health (widespread overuse of genetically
engineered growth hormones in dairy cattle.)
http://www.foxbghsuit.com/
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Fear gan dia ### http://goddamliberal.blogspot.com
Director, EAC Division for Leaving the Toilet Seat up.
Dump the chimp! Re-elect a Democrat in '04.
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| User: "exploratory" |
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16 Aug 2003 10:48:19 AM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message his latest book's title:
Sounds more like FOX defending its right to not air a report if they
don't want to. That's their decision to make, not the reporters.
And it is Al Franken's and anybody else's legal and moral right to
use "fair and balanced" or ANY other phrase they want and to say
whatever THEY want about FOX news. Liberals never gave FOX news
permission to talk about them, so they do not need FOX's permission
to say anything THEY want.
If FOX does not want to read Al Franken's book, then they can choose
not to read it. It is that simple.
These conservatives whiners. I am THRILLED so many of them got
annihilated and burned to death on 11 September 2001.
They LOVED that. I just feel sorry for all the INNOCENT people
who were murdered that day.
And it is MY legal right to have these opinions.
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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13 Aug 2003 07:20:36 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
in <3F3AD14A.7080505@earthling.com>:
# Fear gan dia wrote:
# > Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
# > in <3F3A846F.7040308@earthling.com>:
# >
# > # Craig Pennington wrote:
# > # > Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
# > # >
# > # >>Alex wrote:
# > # >
# > # > [snip]
# > # >
# > # >>>They're also suing Al Franken for his latest book's title:
# > # >>>Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at
# > # >>>the Right.
# > # >>>(While having Bill O'Reilly's picture under the word "Lies".)
# > # >>
# > # > [snip]
# > # >
# > # >
# > # >>Fox screwed the pooch bigtime. Franken's book shot up the Amazon list
# > # >>after they filed suit. The big dummies should have just kept quiet and
# > # >>parodied him right back.
# > # >
# > # >
# > # > Fox only screwed the pooch if they wanted Franken ignored. But
# > # > controversy is good business. Franken and Fox have a mutual
# > # > interest in the big stink now surrounding this book -- money.
# > # > Call me cynical, but it looks like cheap publicity for both
# > # > parties.
# > # >
# > #
# > # FOX is a network: they can make all the publicity they want.
# >
# > Fox is a mouthpiece for the RRR. It recently fought a lawsuit to
# > defend its "right" to lie, distort and mislead the public on a
# > matter of public health (widespread overuse of genetically
# > engineered growth hormones in dairy cattle.)
# >
# > http://www.foxbghsuit.com/
# >
#
# Sounds more like FOX defending its right to not air a report if they
# don't want to. That's their decision to make, not the reporters.
Fox pressured the reporters to air a report which it knew to
be false and misleading, and fired the reporters when they
refused. Pretty typical of Fox's idea of journalistic standards.
--
Fear gan dia ### http://goddamliberal.blogspot.com
Director, EAC Division for Leaving the Toilet Seat up.
Dump the chimp! Re-elect a Democrat in '04.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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14 Aug 2003 10:51:11 AM |
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Fear gan dia wrote:
Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
in <3F3AD14A.7080505@earthling.com>:
# Fear gan dia wrote:
# > Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
# > in <3F3A846F.7040308@earthling.com>:
# >
# > # Craig Pennington wrote:
# > # > Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
# > # >
# > # >>Alex wrote:
# > # >
# > # > [snip]
# > # >
# > # >>>They're also suing Al Franken for his latest book's title:
# > # >>>Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at
# > # >>>the Right.
# > # >>>(While having Bill O'Reilly's picture under the word "Lies".)
# > # >>
# > # > [snip]
# > # >
# > # >
# > # >>Fox screwed the pooch bigtime. Franken's book shot up the Amazon list
# > # >>after they filed suit. The big dummies should have just kept quiet and
# > # >>parodied him right back.
# > # >
# > # >
# > # > Fox only screwed the pooch if they wanted Franken ignored. But
# > # > controversy is good business. Franken and Fox have a mutual
# > # > interest in the big stink now surrounding this book -- money.
# > # > Call me cynical, but it looks like cheap publicity for both
# > # > parties.
# > # >
# > #
# > # FOX is a network: they can make all the publicity they want.
# >
# > Fox is a mouthpiece for the RRR. It recently fought a lawsuit to
# > defend its "right" to lie, distort and mislead the public on a
# > matter of public health (widespread overuse of genetically
# > engineered growth hormones in dairy cattle.)
# >
# > http://www.foxbghsuit.com/
# >
#
# Sounds more like FOX defending its right to not air a report if they
# don't want to. That's their decision to make, not the reporters.
Fox pressured the reporters to air a report which it knew to
be false and misleading, and fired the reporters when they
refused. Pretty typical of Fox's idea of journalistic standards.
Given the level of hysteria about the subject of bovine growth hormone
on the site there, I don't blame FOX one bit for wanting these reporters
to tone it down. "False and misleading" would be a good description of
the *original* report.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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14 Aug 2003 07:26:12 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
in <3F3BAFEF.3020009@earthling.com>:
# Fear gan dia wrote:
# > Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
# > in <3F3AD14A.7080505@earthling.com>:
# >
# > # Fear gan dia wrote:
# > # > Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
# > # > in <3F3A846F.7040308@earthling.com>:
# > # >
# > # > # Craig Pennington wrote:
# > # > # > Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
# > # > # >
# > # > # >>Alex wrote:
# > # > # >
# > # > # > [snip]
# > # > # >
# > # > # >>>They're also suing Al Franken for his latest book's title:
# > # > # >>>Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at
# > # > # >>>the Right.
# > # > # >>>(While having Bill O'Reilly's picture under the word "Lies".)
# > # > # >>
# > # > # > [snip]
# > # > # >
# > # > # >
# > # > # >>Fox screwed the pooch bigtime. Franken's book shot up the Amazon list
# > # > # >>after they filed suit. The big dummies should have just kept quiet and
# > # > # >>parodied him right back.
# > # > # >
# > # > # >
# > # > # > Fox only screwed the pooch if they wanted Franken ignored. But
# > # > # > controversy is good business. Franken and Fox have a mutual
# > # > # > interest in the big stink now surrounding this book -- money.
# > # > # > Call me cynical, but it looks like cheap publicity for both
# > # > # > parties.
# > # > # >
# > # > #
# > # > # FOX is a network: they can make all the publicity they want.
# > # >
# > # > Fox is a mouthpiece for the RRR. It recently fought a lawsuit to
# > # > defend its "right" to lie, distort and mislead the public on a
# > # > matter of public health (widespread overuse of genetically
# > # > engineered growth hormones in dairy cattle.)
# > # >
# > # > http://www.foxbghsuit.com/
# > # >
# > #
# > # Sounds more like FOX defending its right to not air a report if they
# > # don't want to. That's their decision to make, not the reporters.
# >
# > Fox pressured the reporters to air a report which it knew to
# > be false and misleading, and fired the reporters when they
# > refused. Pretty typical of Fox's idea of journalistic standards.
# >
#
# Given the level of hysteria about the subject of bovine growth hormone
# on the site there, I don't blame FOX one bit for wanting these reporters
# to tone it down. "False and misleading" would be a good description of
# the *original* report.
Either you have *****-poor reading comprehension skills or you're
as big a liar as Fox. Both the lower court and the appeals court
found that the story Fox wanted to air was false, distorted and
misleading. The appeals court just said that it wasn't technically
illegal.
--
Fear gan dia ### http://goddamliberal.blogspot.com
Director, EAC Division for Leaving the Toilet Seat up.
Dump the chimp! Re-elect a Democrat in '04.
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15 Aug 2003 12:07:15 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
The only thing the two reporters won was on the retaliation claim.
Retaliation for.... ????
For having snipped the whole context including the citation of exactly
what claim.
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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15 Aug 2003 12:26:25 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
The only thing the two reporters won was on the retaliation claim.
Retaliation for.... ????
For having snipped the whole context including the citation of
exactly what claim.
Nobody said there was retaliation for a "Claim." What was said is
that there was retaliation for threatening to report bogus news stories
to the FCC, if Faux "news" should insist on reporting the bogus stories.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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15 Aug 2003 06:06:48 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
The only thing the two reporters won was on the retaliation claim.
Retaliation for.... ????
For having snipped the whole context including the citation of
exactly what claim.
Nobody said there was retaliation for a "Claim." What was said is
that there was retaliation for threatening to report bogus news stories
to the FCC, if Faux "news" should insist on reporting the bogus stories.
There was one claim of retaliation for one incident of actually
reporting their own ***** to the FCC. Said ***** has all been
thrown out of court, so basically there is nothing left except that FOX
bullied them when Wilson and Aker made such a fuss over having their
precious pile of hype edited to correspond with the evidence.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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15 Aug 2003 06:49:39 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
There was one claim of retaliation for one incident of
actually reporting their own ***** to the FCC.
That wasn't a "Claim." That is what the court found to be
true, and ruled on.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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15 Aug 2003 06:57:51 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
There was one claim of retaliation for one incident of
actually reporting their own ***** to the FCC.
That wasn't a "Claim." That is what the court found to be
true, and ruled on.
Exactly. All their *other* claims were *****.
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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15 Aug 2003 08:39:20 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
That wasn't a "Claim." That is what the court found to be
true, and ruled on.
Exactly.
So the court ruled that Faux "news" did retaliate against an
employee, after the employee told the FCC that Faux "news"
was reporting bogus stories.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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15 Aug 2003 09:29:25 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
That wasn't a "Claim." That is what the court found to be
true, and ruled on.
Exactly.
So the court ruled that Faux "news" did retaliate against an
employee, after the employee told the FCC that Faux "news"
was reporting bogus stories.
There was one claim of retaliation for one incident of actually
reporting their own ***** to the FCC. Said ***** has all been
thrown out of court, so basically there is nothing left except that FOX
bullied them when Wilson and Aker made such a fuss over having their
precious pile of hype edited to correspond with the evidence.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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15 Aug 2003 10:02:42 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
There was one claim of retaliation [...]
Nope, sorry, there was no "Claim."
The court found that there was retaliation.
Said ***** has all been thrown out of court,
Again, no. What the court actually said is that there
is no law against Faux "news" making up bogus
news stories. They never said "This story isn't bogus."
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| User: "JTEM" |
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15 Aug 2003 10:57:00 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
"Each time the station asked Wilson and Akre to provide
supporting documentation for statements in the story or
to make changes in the content of the story, the reporters
accused the station of attempting to distort the story to
favor the manufacturer of BGH."
Seeing how the court didn't address the question surrounding
bogus news stories, where are you getting this from?
Do tell.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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15 Aug 2003 11:09:41 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
"Each time the station asked Wilson and Akre to provide
supporting documentation for statements in the story or
to make changes in the content of the story, the reporters
accused the station of attempting to distort the story to
favor the manufacturer of BGH."
Seeing how the court didn't address the question surrounding
bogus news stories, where are you getting this from?
Do tell.
That is right out of the judge's summary of the case that was linked
from the website:
http://www.2dca.org/opinion/February%2014,%202003/2D01-529.pdf
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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15 Aug 2003 04:37:59 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
That is right out of the judge's summary of the case that was linked
from the website:
http://www.2dca.org/opinion/February%2014,%202003/2D01-529.pdf
1) That's not the final document and 2) it doesn't change anything.
1. So what? and 2. it proves that you're full of *****.
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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16 Aug 2003 04:04:39 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
1. So what? and 2. it proves that you're full of *****.
So a statement that the couple complained when the
station asked for further support (when you have no
idea how much support was already presented), as
well as when the station asked them to change the
story (when you have no idea what they wanted
changed and why they wanted it change) "proves"
something in that pathetic excuse of a mind?
That's sick.
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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15 Aug 2003 02:14:35 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by "JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com>
in <ae-cna4zQ58YaKGiXTWJig@comcast.com>:
# "Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
#
# > There was one claim of retaliation [...]
#
# Nope, sorry, there was no "Claim."
#
# The court found that there was retaliation.
#
# > Said ***** has all been thrown out of court,
#
# Again, no. What the court actually said is that there
# is no law against Faux "news" making up bogus
# news stories. They never said "This story isn't bogus."
BTW, Walter Cronkite testified in the original trial as
an expert witness to refute Fox claims that the two
reporters acted unethically. Also, the Society of Professional
Journalists gave the reporters an award for ethics for standing
up to Fox's pressure to air a false story. I mention this in
response to Fred Flintstone's typical religious-right tactics
of smearing and character-assassinating anyone who dares
to stand up to the RRR monolith.
--
Fear gan dia ### http://goddamliberal.blogspot.com
Director, EAC Division for Leaving the Toilet Seat up.
Dump the chimp! Re-elect a Democrat in '04.
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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| Title: Re: Who Else Is FAUX News Suing? |
15 Aug 2003 07:40:47 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
in <3F3D562B.6010408@earthling.com>:
# Fear gan dia wrote:
# > Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by "JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com>
# > in <ae-cna4zQ58YaKGiXTWJig@comcast.com>:
# >
# > # "Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
# > #
# > # > There was one claim of retaliation [...]
# > #
# > # Nope, sorry, there was no "Claim."
# > #
# > # The court found that there was retaliation.
# > #
# > # > Said ***** has all been thrown out of court,
# > #
# > # Again, no. What the court actually said is that there
# > # is no law against Faux "news" making up bogus
# > # news stories. They never said "This story isn't bogus."
# >
# > BTW, Walter Cronkite testified in the original trial as
# > an expert witness to refute Fox claims that the two
# > reporters acted unethically. Also, the Society of Professional
# > Journalists gave the reporters an award for ethics for standing
# > up to Fox's pressure to air a false story. I mention this in
# > response to Fred Flintstone's typical religious-right tactics
# > of smearing and character-assassinating anyone who dares
# > to stand up to the RRR monolith.
# >
#
# Cronkite was sticking up for his own right to make up whatever "news" he
# wants.
Oh, so Walter Cronkite is just another evil liberal?
# I find it laugable that anybody could read the BGH material
# linked from that website and imagine for one moment that this is a "fair
# and balanced" treatment about it.
I find it laughable that you are growing increasingly demented
in your frenzy to smear anyone who doesn't march in lockstep
with the dictates of the religious right.
--
Fear gan dia ### http://goddamliberal.blogspot.com
Director, EAC Division for Leaving the Toilet Seat up.
Dump the chimp! Re-elect a Democrat in '04.
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| User: "Wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: Who Else Is FAUX News Suing? |
15 Aug 2003 10:08:09 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
The only thing the two reporters won was on the retaliation claim.
Retaliation for.... ????
For having snipped the whole context including the citation of
exactly what claim.
Nobody said there was retaliation for a "Claim." What was said is
that there was retaliation for threatening to report bogus news stories
to the FCC, if Faux "news" should insist on reporting the bogus stories.
There was one claim of retaliation for one incident of actually
reporting their own ***** to the FCC. Said ***** has all been
thrown out of court, so basically there is nothing left except that FOX
bullied them when Wilson and Aker made such a fuss over having their
precious pile of hype edited to correspond with the evidence.
It was "thrown out of court" because they sued under a provision
of Florida law, the whistleblowers protection act, that states that the act
committed that caused the whistle blowwer to act had to be illegal under
Florida law.
Faux Nooz got a smart lawyer to point out that lying to teh public by a
news organization isn't technically illlegal.
Such a victory, Faux 'won' because it was not illegal for them to lie.
Their official spokes creature crowed afterwards that "fox has been
vindicated".
No, Faux news lied, and slid through on a technicality.
Amazingly, no top Faux news managment types showed any remorse,
shame, or recognition lying to the public is bad or unacceptable.
So I have contempt for Fox and consider it about on par with the National
Inquirer.
And amazingly, no right winger ***** types who I have seen this issue
faced before seem to care that Faux lied, got caught, sued, lost, skated
on a technicality, and showed no public reconition that having been caught
trying to force two reporters to falsify news . And declared that skating
on a technicality is "vinidcation".
You can thus see why I have no regard for anybody on the hard
right who accepts such ***** as acceptable behavior for a supposed
news organization.
I have seen not the slightest trace of intellectual honesty on the right
over this disgusting contempt for accuracy, truth and honor.
The right does not care about truth and honor.
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "exploratory" |
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| Title: Re: Who Else Is FAUX News Suing? |
16 Aug 2003 10:53:05 AM |
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Wbarwell <Wbarwell@munnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message news:<3f3d9ff2$0$127$.
You can thus see why I have no regard for anybody on the hard
right who accepts such ***** as acceptable behavior for a supposed
news organization.
I have seen not the slightest trace of intellectual honesty on the right
over this disgusting contempt for accuracy, truth and honor.
The right does not care about truth and honor.
Well said! I agree !
That is because the right is nothing but a bunch of unpatriotic
cowards who are disloyal to their country (whatever country they live in:
the US, the UK, Germany 1930-1945, hell even super-right-winger Saddam Hussein
in Iraq).
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Who Else Is FAUX News Suing? |
16 Aug 2003 12:22:28 AM |
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Wbarwell wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
The only thing the two reporters won was on the retaliation claim.
Retaliation for.... ????
For having snipped the whole context including the citation of
exactly what claim.
Nobody said there was retaliation for a "Claim." What was said is
that there was retaliation for threatening to report bogus news stories
to the FCC, if Faux "news" should insist on reporting the bogus stories.
There was one claim of retaliation for one incident of actually
reporting their own ***** to the FCC. Said ***** has all been
thrown out of court, so basically there is nothing left except that FOX
bullied them when Wilson and Aker made such a fuss over having their
precious pile of hype edited to correspond with the evidence.
It was "thrown out of court" because they sued under a provision
of Florida law, the whistleblowers protection act, that states that the act
committed that caused the whistle blowwer to act had to be illegal under
Florida law.
Faux Nooz got a smart lawyer to point out that lying to teh public by a
news organization isn't technically illlegal.
Such a victory, Faux 'won' because it was not illegal for them to lie.
Their official spokes creature crowed afterwards that "fox has been
vindicated".
No, Faux news lied, and slid through on a technicality.
Amazingly, no top Faux news managment types showed any remorse,
shame, or recognition lying to the public is bad or unacceptable.
So I have contempt for Fox and consider it about on par with the National
Inquirer.
And amazingly, no right winger ***** types who I have seen this issue
faced before seem to care that Faux lied, got caught, sued, lost, skated
on a technicality, and showed no public reconition that having been caught
trying to force two reporters to falsify news . And declared that skating
on a technicality is "vinidcation".
You can thus see why I have no regard for anybody on the hard
right who accepts such ***** as acceptable behavior for a supposed
news organization.
I have seen not the slightest trace of intellectual honesty on the right
over this disgusting contempt for accuracy, truth and honor.
The right does not care about truth and honor.
I've read the case, and the documents posted on that website, including
the "FOX Mandated Version" of the scripts with all their comments.
http://www.foxbghsuit.com/exhibit%20q.htm
Wilson & Akre even admit that they have taken pains to emphasize (ie,
hype) the danger because so many other similar "cancer scare" claims
have been made that people are desensitized. So, by making them *not*
hype things, FOX is "lying".
If FOX managed to weasel out of a hack job of a lawsuit like that, more
power to 'em.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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| Title: Re: Who Else Is FAUX News Suing? |
13 Aug 2003 02:24:30 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by (Yang)
in <3f39a164.2822593@news.cox.net>:
# Fox News sues website for "We Distort, You Comply" t-shirts
#
# http://www.agitproperties.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php?products_id=1
#
#
# -----
#
# Yang
# a.a. #28
# a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
# EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
# Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
#
# The Bush 'balance' budget: -455 billion and worsening
^^^^^^^
Hey! Trademark infringement! You'll be hearing from Fox's lawyers!
I must say the "fair and balanced" channel is getting increasingly
mentally unbalanced. In the court papers in which they filed the
Franken lawsuit, they describe Franken as "neither a journalist nor
a television news personality... shrill and unstable... intoxicated
or deranged... increasingly unfunny."
http://snurl.com/21n0
--
Fear gan dia ### http://goddamliberal.blogspot.com
Director, EAC Division for Leaving the Toilet Seat up.
Dump the chimp! Re-elect a Democrat in '04.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Who Else Is FAUX News Suing? |
13 Aug 2003 02:42:29 PM |
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Fear gan dia wrote:
Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by (Yang)
in <3f39a164.2822593@news.cox.net>:
# Fox News sues website for "We Distort, You Comply" t-shirts
#
# http://www.agitproperties.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php?products_id=1
#
#
# -----
#
# Yang
# a.a. #28
# a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
# EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
# Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
#
# The Bush 'balance' budget: -455 billion and worsening
^^^^^^^
Hey! Trademark infringement! You'll be hearing from Fox's lawyers!
I must say the "fair and balanced" channel is getting increasingly
mentally unbalanced. In the court papers in which they filed the
Franken lawsuit, they describe Franken as "neither a journalist nor
a television news personality... shrill and unstable... intoxicated
or deranged... increasingly unfunny."
http://snurl.com/21n0
Thereby proving that Fox is, in fact, "fair and balanced." In a Republican
sort of way.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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