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WHO IS SUPREME - THE POPE OR THE SUPREME COURT? |
Who is supreme - the Pope or the Supreme Court?
By S. Gurumurthy
newindpress.com
Wednesday, May 31, 2006
The Pope wears two hats - one religious, as the global
pontiff of the Catholics, and the other political, as the
head of Vatican State. The second one gives him and the
Catholic faith a global political and diplomatic status
which no other faith can match. As the head of the
Vatican State, the Pope relates to all heads of State as
a political equal and more.
When the present Pope's predecessor, John Paul II, came
to India, he proclaimed that the Church planted the Cross
on Europe first, then on Americas and Africa and now, he
said, it was Asia's turn to bear the Cross! Asia was
ripe, he said, for harvesting the souls - read heathens -
for Christ.
In Latin America, John Paul II abused the Protestant
Christians as 'wolves' for targeting the Catholics for
conversion! Why the hate for conversions in Latin America
and love for it in Asia? Simple, the more efficient
conversions by Protestants in Latin America are
endangering the Catholics, but Asia, with its huge and
weak heathen population, offers itself almost
competition-free for the Church to convert.
Working on his predecessor's intent to plant the Cross on
India, the new Pope Benedict XVI has moved further and
virtually abused India for growing religious intolerance
and for impeding the church work by anti-conversion laws.
Two weeks back when the new Indian ambassador to Vatican,
Amitava Tripathi, presented his credentials to the Pope
as the head of the Vatican state, the Pope shocked him
saying that Indian laws against conversions offend
freedom of faith and should be rejected as
unconstitutional.
This angered even the normally timid, secular Indian
establishment to react sharply, call in Vatican's charge
de affairs in Delhi and tell him sternly of the Indian
Government's strong disapproval of the Pope's conduct.
But has the Pope the moral authority to fault others for
lack of religious freedom? In the Pope's own Vatican
State no faith other than his own is allowed. If the
Papacy regards even other Orthodox and Protestant
Christians as heretics, where is the question of freedom
for idol worshipping heathens to whom the Bible itself
denies freedom. The Vatican Constitution is named as
'Apostolic Constitution', that is constitution of
Christian missionaries! Spain where till date Catholicism
is the state religion has again a treaty with the Papacy.
Will the Pope allow freedom of faith in Vatican and
sermonise on freedom to those countries?
Presumably the Pope was misled by his establishment in
India. The Churches selling his faith in India have been
campaigning, but falsely, that the anti-conversion laws
passed by Madhya Pradesh and Orissa States decades
earlier and by the Rajasthan and Chhattisgarh Governments
in recent times are unconstitutional. But long before, in
1977, a five-judge Constitution Bench of the Supreme
Court had overruled the challenge to anti-conversion laws
of MP and Orissa. The Pope's own agencies in India had
challenged the laws. The Court firmly told the soul-
harvesters that the religious freedom under the Indian
Constitution was limited to the right to propagate one's
faith and did not extend to convert other faithfuls.
The MP Government did not wake up one fine morning and
pass this law. In 1950s it had appointed a committee
headed by Justice Neogi, which included a Christian
member who was also a Gandhian, to study allegations of
forcible and fraudulent conversions of tribal and
illiterate people by foreign missionaries. The committee
submitted a voluminous, unanimous report detailing
fraudulent conversions by the Church. The MP Government
then under the Congress party merely enacted the
recommendations of the Neogi committee. The pontiff of
Indian secularism Pundit Jawaharlal Nehru was then the
Prime Minister.
The Supreme Court has declared that religious conversion
is not part of religious freedom in the Indian
Constitution and Indian anti-conversion laws are
constitutional. But the Pope asserts the other way round,
that is, conversion is part of freedom of faith in the
Indian Constitution and Indian anti-conversional laws are
unconstitutional. The question is: who is supreme in
India - the Pope or the Supreme Court?
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| Title: Re: WHO IS SUPREME - THE POPE OR THE SUPREME COURT? |
03 Jun 2006 03:19:09 AM |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Who is supreme - the Pope or the Supreme Court?
By S. Gurumurthy
newindpress.com
Wednesday, May 31, 2006
When the present Pope's predecessor, John Paul II, came
to India, he proclaimed that the Church planted the Cross
on Europe first, then on Americas and Africa and now, he
said, it was Asia's turn to bear the Cross! Asia was
ripe, he said, for harvesting the souls - read heathens -
for Christ.
In Latin America, John Paul II abused the Protestant
Christians as 'wolves' for targeting the Catholics for
conversion!
.... or for being "false preachers"? Looking at the closest matching Biblical
reference, "wolves" implies "false preachers".
http://www.google.com/search?q=wolves+%22false+preachers%22&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
Why the hate for conversions in Latin America
and love for it in Asia? Simple, the more efficient
conversions by Protestants in Latin America are
endangering the Catholics, but Asia, with its huge and
weak heathen population, offers itself almost
competition-free for the Church to convert.
Why didn't he call Protestants wolves when they preached in Asia? Would he
have objected or agreed if Hindus called them false lupine preachers?
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| User: "Josh Miles" |
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| Title: Re: WHO IS SUPREME - THE POPE OR THE SUPREME COURT? |
01 Jun 2006 01:33:16 AM |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Who is supreme - the Pope or the Supreme Court?
By S. Gurumurthy
newindpress.com
Wednesday, May 31, 2006
Hey, kook, how'd you get out of my killfile?
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: WHO IS SUPREME - THE POPE OR THE SUPREME COURT? |
01 Jun 2006 01:40:41 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 05:55:22 GMT, usenet@mantra.comXVE5dnS or
www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:
Who is supreme - the Pope or the Supreme Court?
Neither.
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