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"Whood Unit" |
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18 Feb 2004 05:58:25 PM |
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Who Killed Jesus? |
Every time they have something int he news about Mel gibson's Passion
movie they always say some thing like "jews are worried this is going
to make people think they killed jesus".
well DUH isn't that because they did kill him???
If the jews didn't kill Jesus I would like to know who did!
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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19 Feb 2004 12:27:13 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:58:25 +0100 in alt.atheism, Whood Unit (Whood
Unit <whood@unit.dom>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Every time they have something int he news about Mel gibson's Passion
movie they always say some thing like "jews are worried this is going
to make people think they killed jesus".
well DUH isn't that because they did kill him???
If the jews didn't kill Jesus I would like to know who did!
What have the Romans ever done for us? Now you know!
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being read.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? |
19 Feb 2004 09:19:52 AM |
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"Whood Unit" <whood@unit.dom> wrote in message
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[snip most of crap]
If the jews didn't kill Jesus I would like to know who did!
The Romans. Get a clue, moron.
(Oh, and, *very* lame troll. Try again)
Susan
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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18 Feb 2004 06:00:37 PM |
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"Whood Unit" <whood@unit.dom> wrote in message
news:jeu730h4q1f001hl9o2cke8frcp8t0b6i1@news...
Every time they have something int he news about Mel gibson's Passion
movie they always say some thing like "jews are worried this is going
to make people think they killed jesus".
well DUH isn't that because they did kill him???
If the jews didn't kill Jesus I would like to know who did!
Hey, if I was a Christian, I would have to kiss the jews for killing Jesus,
and thereby guaranteeing my salvation.
As far as I can tell, the Christians owe the jews a debt they can never
repay.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Mike" |
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18 Feb 2004 09:04:30 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:6-edndYQ4IpxYa7dRVn-tw@io.com...
"Whood Unit" <whood@unit.dom> wrote in message
news:jeu730h4q1f001hl9o2cke8frcp8t0b6i1@news...
Every time they have something int he news about Mel gibson's Passion
movie they always say some thing like "jews are worried this is going
to make people think they killed jesus".
well DUH isn't that because they did kill him???
If the jews didn't kill Jesus I would like to know who did!
Hey, if I was a Christian, I would have to kiss the jews for killing
Jesus,
and thereby guaranteeing my salvation.
As far as I can tell, the Christians owe the jews a debt they can never
repay.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
Interesting way to look at it, even though it was God's plan. Funny thing
is they didn't actually do it. They had to get the Roman occupying Army to
do it. They would have broken Roman Law if they had killed him....so why
should they be upset?
After all the "ITALIANS" should be upset....THEY DID IT! We should thank
them too. :)
Actually it really doesn't matter, as long as Jesus is your Lord and Savior,
the rest is just "HIStory".
Mike
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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19 Feb 2004 01:44:20 AM |
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"Mike" <MMAY8@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2JVYb.2800$J84.2263@fe1.texas.rr.com...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:6-edndYQ4IpxYa7dRVn-tw@io.com...
"Whood Unit" <whood@unit.dom> wrote in message
news:jeu730h4q1f001hl9o2cke8frcp8t0b6i1@news...
Every time they have something int he news about Mel gibson's Passion
movie they always say some thing like "jews are worried this is going
to make people think they killed jesus".
well DUH isn't that because they did kill him???
If the jews didn't kill Jesus I would like to know who did!
Hey, if I was a Christian, I would have to kiss the jews for killing
Jesus,
and thereby guaranteeing my salvation.
As far as I can tell, the Christians owe the jews a debt they can never
repay.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
Interesting way to look at it, even though it was God's plan.
That would mean god killed Jesus. That's even funnier!
Funny thing
is they didn't actually do it. They had to get the Roman occupying Army
to
do it.
Ok, so now the Christians have the Roman army to thank!
They would have broken Roman Law if they had killed him....so why
should they be upset?
Good question!
After all the "ITALIANS" should be upset....THEY DID IT! We should thank
them too. :)
Yup!
Actually it really doesn't matter, as long as Jesus is your Lord and
Savior,
the rest is just "HIStory".
It's that wonderful "I've got mine" perspective.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "nobody" |
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19 Feb 2004 02:59:20 AM |
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So, Jesus was a Jew. He was killed by Romans.
Shoudn't israel send its USA-approved WMDs to Italy to retaliate ?
:-)
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| User: "Mike" |
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20 Feb 2004 12:08:19 AM |
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"nobody" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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So, Jesus was a Jew. He was killed by Romans.
Shoudn't israel send its USA-approved WMDs to Italy to retaliate ?
:-)
There is a whole new twist on things.... :)
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| User: "edo" |
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19 Feb 2004 01:55:14 PM |
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JF Mezei <nobody@nobody.com> trolled:
So, Jesus was a Jew. He was killed by Romans.
Shoudn't israel send its USA-approved WMDs to Italy to retaliate ?
Might as well! Waiting for the Canadians to show any leadership in the world
we'll all perish.....
==============================
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
About
J F M E Z E I
==============================
Author: Michael Voight "mrtravelkay" <mvoight@cisco.com>
1. Who is JF Mezei?
Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit
rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups. He is also one of the
longest running trolls in usenet history.
2. How long has he been trolling?
For well over a decade.
3. Where does he live?
Jean-Francois Mezei
86 Harwood Gate
Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3
(514) 695-8259
4. What makes him such a malicious troll?
His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless. Once he invades your
newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out,
every day of the year, for years and years on end. He does not listen to pleas
to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay
attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he just
goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his ears
closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"
5. What does he troll about?
His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex. He hates the
USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashing
fest. If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.
6. What does he hate about the USA?
Everything! He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceral
hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly. The USA is a happier, better, more
successful version of their country and they can't stand it. Some of JF's
favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of
evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all
Americans are stupid" etc.
7. What about his sexual trolling?
Ah, that is JF at his trolling best. No sexual topic is too bizarre. Among his
favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys,
circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless.
8. Circumcision???
Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years. He still likes to insert
circumcision into his trolling every now and then. Apparently, JF was
traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada,
left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world.
Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time,
he was psychologically scarred (so he claims). As soon as he could he arranged
to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcision
proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy. His main
argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumcised
without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he has
made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.
9. What's his interest in child sexuality? That sounds kind of freaky.
Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky. Among the subjects dear
to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy's
foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens. He is also a
tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbate
early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".
He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their little
boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement,
and that they be able to masturbate with no problems. Utopia for JF would be a
world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises.
10. Ewww! This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute! Are
you sure about all this stuff?
Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself. There's over a decade full
of Mezei trolling in there.
11. How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like
all trolls do?
Of course! See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling
aliases.
12. So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?
Ha ha ha! JF hasn't worked a day in his life! He's an adult baby, a grown man
who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroups
all night. In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bike
down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike.
13. That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?
Bingo! JF is a boy in a grown man's body. Psychologically he never got past
the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my
finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.
14. Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is
that true?
Yes! JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room.
He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms over
the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins. He stalks the men
in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is
left if they have been circumcised. He gets extremely excited when he spots a
case of phimosis.
15. Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts! He should be locked up in an insane asylum!
Yep, JF is certifiably insane. He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hat
world where others are out to get him. The key to understanding JF is that he
sees himself as a VICTIM. To JF the world is out to get him, especially the
USA. Victimhood is what JF is all about.
What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system was
"killed", in his words. He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains,
writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a good
freak. Then he turned his attention to aviation. Major events that made him
fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines and
their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil). So paranoid is
he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees
went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the Air
Canada markings. He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash
investigation. He has never recovered from this.
16. Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!
His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient,
arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously for
decades. JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who share
his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore. It's
really pathetic!
17. Where else does he hang out?
can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer
groups. For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the
sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlessly
with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for. But they ran
him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail
between his legs, licking his wounds.
18. It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't troll.
Pretty much. For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he slips
in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and,
more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they
won't find out what a major netkook he is.
19. Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho
he is!
Exactly. Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms. And while you're at
it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too. And to
alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.
20. What else can I do? Is there an abuse address?
Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:
abuse@sympatico.ca
abuse@bellglobal.com
abuse@istop.com
And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely. Post it to newsgroups, email it to
people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazines
that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.
*** APPENDIX ***
List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years. This is
only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list.
jfmezei@istop.com
jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com
jfmezei@videotron.ca
jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca
nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca
"jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]
nobody <nobody@nobody.com>
nobody <nobody@nobody.net>
nobody <nobody@nobody.org>
nobody <nobody@nobody.info>
nobody <nobody@nobody.int>
nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>
nobody <nobody@null.dev>
muklak <muklak@eskimo.net>
Sheep skin <sheep@station.au>
snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree>
Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org>
Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>
Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>
Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>
Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>
Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org>
Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>
Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>
Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com>
Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com>
Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org>
Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org>
Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org>
Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>
Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org>
Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org>
Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org>
Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>
Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org>
Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org>
Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>
Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>
Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>
Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>
Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>
Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org>
Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>
Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>
Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org>
Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>
Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org>
Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>
Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>
Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org>
Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>
Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org>
Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org>
Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org>
Onani Room <onani@hotels.com>
Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>
Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>
Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org>
Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org>
Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>
Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>
Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>
Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org>
Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org>
Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>
Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>
Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org>
Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil>
Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org>
Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org>
Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>
Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>
Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org>
Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum>
Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>
Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org>
Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>
Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org>
Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>
Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>
Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org>
Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>
Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>
Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>
George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>
Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org>
Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>
Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>
Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org>
Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org>
T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>
Q <queue@continuum.net>
Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>
Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>
John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>
*DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- DIVINE COMEDY |
19 Feb 2004 09:50:16 PM |
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Assuming Christianity is correct:
Christians believe he is still alive!
They also believe he is "GOD".
They also believe a "GOD" cannot die.
So, if Jesus was a "GOD" who for a divine micro-moment
APPEARED on Earth as a man but returned immediately
to being "GOD", then NO ONE KILLED HIM! They only
participated in a DIVINE COMEDY, helping him in getting
transformed back into "GOD"! -- L.
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| User: "devil" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- DIVINE COMEDY |
19 Feb 2004 11:59:47 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:50:16 -0700, Libertarius wrote:
Assuming Christianity is correct:
Christians believe he is still alive!
They also believe he is "GOD".
They also believe a "GOD" cannot die.
So, if Jesus was a "GOD" who for a divine micro-moment
APPEARED on Earth as a man but returned immediately
to being "GOD", then NO ONE KILLED HIM! They only
participated in a DIVINE COMEDY, helping him in getting
transformed back into "GOD"! -- L.
Proper spelling is *DOG*.
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| User: "eedwards" |
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20 Feb 2004 06:55:29 PM |
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"Mike" <MMAY8@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2JVYb.2800$J84.2263@fe1.texas.rr.com...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:6-edndYQ4IpxYa7dRVn-tw@io.com...
"Whood Unit" <whood@unit.dom> wrote in message
news:jeu730h4q1f001hl9o2cke8frcp8t0b6i1@news...
Every time they have something int he news about Mel gibson's Passion
movie they always say some thing like "jews are worried this is going
to make people think they killed jesus".
well DUH isn't that because they did kill him???
If the jews didn't kill Jesus I would like to know who did!
Hey, if I was a Christian, I would have to kiss the jews for killing
Jesus,
and thereby guaranteeing my salvation.
As far as I can tell, the Christians owe the jews a debt they can never
repay.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
Interesting way to look at it, even though it was God's plan. Funny thing
is they didn't actually do it. They had to get the Roman occupying Army
to
do it. They would have broken Roman Law if they had killed him....so why
should they be upset?
Thank you, Mike. You are one of the few people that "gets it."
First, the Jews did not kill Christ... it was MAN that rejected Christ.
Christ had to be rejected by Man in general, and more particularly, by the
very people that God had an initmate relationship with, the Jews. Without
this rejection, we would never understand what God was offering and what he
was demanding to achieve his offer.
In order to really comprehend the fruit of eternal life and the "cost" or
burdens of the path one had to walk to achieve it, there had to be a very
clear distinction set between what God could offer and what Man could offer.
Man had to have this eternal conflict blantantly illustrated... with God
offering beauty, peace and eternal life with Man offered a facade the
continues to mask corruption, greed, deceit and betrayl. Similar to the
story of the Garden of Eden, Man once again rejects what God offers in favor
of what he thinks he wants...God sents a Prince of Peace, but Man rejects
him because he is not a King that will rise up against the Romans.
Only with the rejection and torture of Christ can Man clearly see that the
path to eternal life is in conflict with the path of Man. We all have
that choice. If we are Christian, we take up the cross and endure whatever
pain that afflicts us as we reject the path of man. We are aliens in this
world... separate and distinct. As we reject Man's ways, we will be
rejected as well. When we chose the way of man, we must worry that are
doing so is rejecting God and adding a nail to the suffering of Christ.
What if Christ had lived only to die an old man? What if his ministry went
on for 100 years? How much different would the world be? The Christian
religion be? It certainly would be much less about about faith as we would
have far more witness to rely upon. But, then, God wants it to be about
faith or he would be far more blantant about revealing himself to us. Had
Christ lived, it would have been because he was accepted by man... what kind
of world would we have had if the Roman Empire fully accepted Christ? Would
their be a real promise to eternal life that would be that much greater than
mortal life? How would we ever come to understand the pervasiveness of evil
and the sin nature that is within us all?
Christ had to have been rejected by Man. God knew this would happen. The
Jews just played out their part. Thank God for that!
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| User: "Tom McCafferty" |
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| Title: Who Killed Jesus? |
20 Feb 2004 10:20:41 PM |
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Who cares?
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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21 Feb 2004 11:01:06 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Tom McCafferty wrote:
Who cares?
Jesus who?
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
21 Feb 2004 11:28:47 AM |
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eedwards wrote:
[SNIPALOT]
First, the Jews did not kill Christ... it was MAN that rejected Christ.
Christ had to be rejected by Man in general, and more particularly, by the
very people that God had an initmate relationship with, the Jews. Without
this rejection, we would never understand what God was offering and what he
was demanding to achieve his offer.
===>What a bunch of BOVINE EXCREMENT!
There never WAS any person named "Christ"!!!
And Yeshua (Jesus) was EXECUTED for sedition by the
Roman authorities, something he deserved according to
Romans 13. -- L.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
22 Feb 2004 07:34:33 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:28:47 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Christ had to be rejected by Man in general, and more particularly, by the
very people that God had an initmate relationship with, the Jews. Without
this rejection, we would never understand what God was offering and what he
was demanding to achieve his offer.
===>What a bunch of BOVINE EXCREMENT!
There never WAS any person named "Christ"!!!
His name was Jesus, the Christ.
And Yeshua (Jesus) was EXECUTED for sedition by the
Roman authorities, something he deserved according to
Romans 13. -- L.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
22 Feb 2004 11:31:40 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:28:47 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Christ had to be rejected by Man in general, and more particularly, by the
very people that God had an initmate relationship with, the Jews. Without
this rejection, we would never understand what God was offering and what he
was demanding to achieve his offer.
===>What a bunch of BOVINE EXCREMENT!
There never WAS any person named "Christ"!!!
His name was Jesus, the Christ.
===>No. His name was YESHUA.
"Christ" or rather "Christos" was a Pagan savior god
renamed by Saul/Paul of Tarsus.
He decided Yeshua WAS that incarnated "Christos".
And Yeshua (Jesus) was EXECUTED for sedition by the
Roman authorities, something he deserved according to
Romans 13. -- L.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
22 Feb 2004 04:29:56 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:31:40 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
His name was Jesus, the Christ.
===>No. His name was YESHUA.
Same name, different langauge.
"Christ" or rather "Christos" was a Pagan savior god
renamed by Saul/Paul of Tarsus.
That might have been before Paul converted to Christianity.
He decided Yeshua WAS that incarnated "Christos".
A LOT of people started coming to that realization before Paul came along.
Paul was a late bloomer in that picture.
You have a lot to learn, libby.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
22 Feb 2004 07:56:57 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:31:40 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
His name was Jesus, the Christ.
===>No. His name was YESHUA.
Same name, different langauge.
===>YESHUA is NOT the same as "Jesus the Christ".
"Christ" or rather "Christos" was a Pagan savior god
renamed by Saul/Paul of Tarsus.
That might have been before Paul converted to Christianity.
===>No. He never "converted". He INVENTED Christianity.
He decided Yeshua WAS that incarnated "Christos".
A LOT of people started coming to that realization before Paul came along.
===>Such as???
Name some.
Paul was a late bloomer in that picture.
===>Wrong. He was the EARLIEST to rename the Pagan savior god
by the name of "CHRISTOS".
You have a lot to learn, libby.
===>I know.
But I do know a lot you still don't.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
23 Feb 2004 05:46:49 AM |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:56:57 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
His name was Jesus, the Christ.
===>No. His name was YESHUA.
Same name, different langauge.
===>YESHUA is NOT the same as "Jesus the Christ".
His name was Jesus. He is "the Christ".
"Christ" or rather "Christos" was a Pagan savior god
renamed by Saul/Paul of Tarsus.
That might have been before Paul converted to Christianity.
===>No. He never "converted". He INVENTED Christianity.
An old, old study long ago put to rest as an error.
Paul didn't even know Jesus, but others did.
He decided Yeshua WAS that incarnated "Christos".
A LOT of people started coming to that realization before Paul came along.
===>Such as???
Name some.
The Apostles, his mother, numerous others including the 500+ that he walked and
talked and ate with and drank with for 40 days after his resurrection.
Paul was a late bloomer in that picture.
===>Wrong. He was the EARLIEST to rename the Pagan savior god
by the name of "CHRISTOS".
The Egyptians called a wooden jackel a "god". It wasn't.
What does the word "christos" mean, libby?
You have a lot to learn, libby.
===>I know.
But I do know a lot you still don't.
No, I don't see that anywheres.
But I do think you can read. Comprehension, that's another story.
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| User: "Pat Harrington" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
23 Feb 2004 10:35:59 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<2epj30586am04rmvaalai4a1d9foob53qh@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:56:57 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
His name was Jesus, the Christ.
===>No. His name was YESHUA.
Same name, different langauge.
===>YESHUA is NOT the same as "Jesus the Christ".
His name was Jesus. He is "the Christ".
"Christ" or rather "Christos" was a Pagan savior god
renamed by Saul/Paul of Tarsus.
That might have been before Paul converted to Christianity.
===>No. He never "converted". He INVENTED Christianity.
An old, old study long ago put to rest as an error.
Paul didn't even know Jesus, but others did.
He decided Yeshua WAS that incarnated "Christos".
A LOT of people started coming to that realization before Paul came along.
===>Such as???
Name some.
The Apostles, his mother, numerous others including the 500+ that he walked and
talked and ate with and drank with for 40 days after his resurrection.
Paul was a late bloomer in that picture.
===>Wrong. He was the EARLIEST to rename the Pagan savior god
by the name of "CHRISTOS".
The Egyptians called a wooden jackel a "god". It wasn't.
What does the word "christos" mean, libby?
The word "Christos" means "annointed", as in an annointed king.
You have a lot to learn, libby.
===>I know.
But I do know a lot you still don't.
No, I don't see that anywheres.
But I do think you can read. Comprehension, that's another story.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
23 Feb 2004 05:47:46 PM |
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On 23 Feb 2004 08:35:59 -0800, (Pat Harrington)
wrote:
What does the word "christos" mean, libby?
The word "Christos" means "annointed", as in an annointed king.
That is correct. Thanks.
It's to be noted that libby once again ducked another one he couldn't answer.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
23 Feb 2004 07:01:55 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 23 Feb 2004 08:35:59 -0800, (Pat Harrington)
wrote:
What does the word "christos" mean, libby?
The word "Christos" means "annointed", as in an annointed king.
That is correct. Thanks.
It's to be noted that libby once again ducked another one he couldn't answer.\
===>You Nitwit!
I answered it quite accurately!
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
25 Feb 2004 05:14:03 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:01:55 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
duke wrote:
On 23 Feb 2004 08:35:59 -0800, (Pat Harrington)
wrote:
What does the word "christos" mean, libby?
The word "Christos" means "annointed", as in an annointed king.
That is correct. Thanks.
It's to be noted that libby once again ducked another one he couldn't answer.\
===>You Nitwit!
I answered it quite accurately!
No, Pat Harrington answered it, libbie, but not you.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
23 Feb 2004 07:00:41 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:56:57 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
His name was Jesus, the Christ.
===>No. His name was YESHUA.
Same name, different langauge.
===>YESHUA is NOT the same as "Jesus the Christ".
His name was Jesus. He is "the Christ".
"Christ" or rather "Christos" was a Pagan savior god
renamed by Saul/Paul of Tarsus.
That might have been before Paul converted to Christianity.
===>No. He never "converted". He INVENTED Christianity.
An old, old study long ago put to rest as an error.
Paul didn't even know Jesus, but others did.
He decided Yeshua WAS that incarnated "Christos".
A LOT of people started coming to that realization before Paul came along.
===>Such as???
Name some.
The Apostles, his mother, numerous others including the 500+ that he walked and
talked and ate with and drank with for 40 days after his resurrection.
===>Where did you get THAT story???
Not from the Bible!
Are you having hallucinations, like Saul/Paul???
Paul was a late bloomer in that picture.
===>Wrong. He was the EARLIEST to rename the Pagan savior god
by the name of "CHRISTOS".
The Egyptians called a wooden jackel a "god". It wasn't.
===>Irrelevant.
What does the word "christos" mean, libby?
===>Don't you know? Too lazy to look it up???
"christos , ê, on, ( [chriô] ) to be rubbed on, used as ointment or salve"
(Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon)
Probably originally confused with
CHRESTOS, meaning "useful, good of its kind, serviceable",
also a "good person"
You have a lot to learn, libby.
===>I know.
But I do know a lot you still don't.
No, I don't see that anywheres.
===>Your blindness.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
25 Feb 2004 05:21:55 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:00:41 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
The Apostles, his mother, numerous others including the 500+ that he walked and
talked and ate with and drank with for 40 days after his resurrection.
===>Where did you get THAT story???
Not from the Bible!
Are you having hallucinations, like Saul/Paul???
1 Corinthians 15
The Resurrection of Christ
1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you
received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are saved,
if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed
in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died
for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was
raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to
Peter,and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred
of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some
have fallen asleep.
Acts 1
3After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and
spoke about the kingdom of God.
Gosh, libbie, you really are ignorant of the bible, aren't you. I suppose now
you'll say it was not true because the words came from 2 different scripture
books.
That sound like something you would do.
Paul was a late bloomer in that picture.
===>Wrong. He was the EARLIEST to rename the Pagan savior god
by the name of "CHRISTOS".
The Egyptians called a wooden jackel a "god". It wasn't.
===>Irrelevant.
It's also over your head.
What does the word "christos" mean, libby?
===>Don't you know? Too lazy to look it up???
"christos , ê, on, ( [chriô] ) to be rubbed on, used as ointment or salve"
(Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon)
Probably originally confused with
Pat Harrington was a few days ahead of you. I gather you saw his response.
CHRESTOS, meaning "useful, good of its kind, serviceable",
also a "good person"
Go, ahead, libbie, try to bail yourself out.
You have a lot to learn, libby.
===>I know.
But I do know a lot you still don't.
No, I don't see that anywheres.
===>Your blindness.
This very post is open announcement that you are pretty lacking in bible
knowledge.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
25 Feb 2004 09:31:40 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:00:41 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
The Apostles, his mother, numerous others including the 500+ that he walked and
talked and ate with and drank with for 40 days after his resurrection.
===>Where did you get THAT story???
Not from the Bible!
Are you having hallucinations, like Saul/Paul???
1 Corinthians 15
The Resurrection of Christ
1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you
received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are saved,
if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed
in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died
for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was
raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to
Peter,and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred
of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some
have fallen asleep.
===>Yes, that was his invention. Thanks for the quote.
Just to reinforce things, look at Galatians 1:11-12
"But I certify you, brethren,
that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it],
but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."
He did not learn it from actual witnesses or associates of Jesus!
Acts 1
3After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and
spoke about the kingdom of God.
===>Where does it say anything about an "500+ that he walked and
talked and ate with and drank with for 40 days after his resurrection."????
YOU LIE!
[SNIPALOT]
What does the word "christos" mean, libby?
===>Don't you know? Too lazy to look it up???
"christos , ê, on, ( [chriô] ) to be rubbed on, used as ointment or salve"
(Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon)
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
26 Feb 2004 05:56:02 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:31:40 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
1 Corinthians 15
The Resurrection of Christ
1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you
received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are saved,
if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed
in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died
for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was
raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to
Peter,and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred
of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some
have fallen asleep.
===>Yes, that was his invention. Thanks for the quote.
An invention. There goes your credibility.
Just to reinforce things, look at Galatians 1:11-12
"But I certify you, brethren,
that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it],
but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."
He did not learn it from actual witnesses or associates of Jesus!
Of course, the **revelation of Christ**. He never met Christ.
Acts 1
3After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and
spoke about the kingdom of God.
===>Where does it say anything about an "500+ that he walked and
talked and ate with and drank with for 40 days after his resurrection."????
YOU LIE!
Well, 40 days is shown above in Acts 1:
And the followers:
1 Corinthians 15
2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you.
Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[1] : that Christ
died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was
raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to
Peter,[2] and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five
hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though
some have fallen asleep.
What's the matter libby, can't you read?
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| User: "TehGhodTrole" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
26 Feb 2004 09:01:28 PM |
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Hi. I noted that the massage below was cancelled so I reposted it just in
case you still need it.
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:31:40 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
1 Corinthians 15
The Resurrection of Christ
1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you,
which you
received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are
saved,
if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have
believed
in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that
Christ died
for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he
was
raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he
appeared to
Peter,and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five
hundred
of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though
some
have fallen asleep.
===>Yes, that was his invention. Thanks for the quote.
An invention. There goes your credibility.
Just to reinforce things, look at Galatians 1:11-12
"But I certify you, brethren,
that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it],
but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."
He did not learn it from actual witnesses or associates of Jesus!
Of course, the *revelation of Christ*. He never met Christ.
Acts 1
3After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many
convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days
and
spoke about the kingdom of God.
===>Where does it say anything about an "500+ that he walked and
talked and ate with and drank with for 40 days after his
resurrection."????
YOU LIE!
Well, 40 days is shown above in Acts 1:
And the followers:
1 Corinthians 15
2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to
you.
Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[1] : that
Christ
died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he
was
raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared
to
Peter,[2] and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five
hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living,
though
some have fallen asleep.
What's the matter libby, can't you read?
--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
27 Feb 2004 03:25:14 PM |
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On 27 Feb 2004 03:01:28 GMT, "TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote:
Hi. I noted that the massage below was cancelled so I reposted it just in
case you still need it.
Thanks, but libbie doesn't have a leg to stand on. He's really very easy.
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:31:40 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
1 Corinthians 15
The Resurrection of Christ
1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you,
which you
received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are
saved,
if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have
believed
in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that
Christ died
for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he
was
raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he
appeared to
Peter,and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five
hundred
of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though
some
have fallen asleep.
===>Yes, that was his invention. Thanks for the quote.
An invention. There goes your credibility.
Just to reinforce things, look at Galatians 1:11-12
"But I certify you, brethren,
that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it],
but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."
He did not learn it from actual witnesses or associates of Jesus!
Of course, the *revelation of Christ*. He never met Christ.
Acts 1
3After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many
convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days
and
spoke about the kingdom of God.
===>Where does it say anything about an "500+ that he walked and
talked and ate with and drank with for 40 days after his
resurrection."????
YOU LIE!
Well, 40 days is shown above in Acts 1:
And the followers:
1 Corinthians 15
2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to
you.
Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[1] : that
Christ
died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he
was
raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared
to
Peter,[2] and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five
hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living,
though
some have fallen asleep.
What's the matter libby, can't you read?
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| User: "TehGhodTrole" |
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| Title: Re: Who Killed Jesus? -- ROMANS 13 |
27 Feb 2004 03:56:51 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 27 Feb 2004 03:01:28 GMT, "TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net>
wrote:
Hi. I noted that the massage below was cancelled so I reposted it
just in case you still need it.
Thanks, but libbie doesn't have a leg to stand on. He's really very
easy.
The poor man. He must be a discarded shell. No legs, no brain.
--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.
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