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"John Popelish" |
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13 Mar 2007 08:59:22 PM |
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Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
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| User: "kingdoodlesquat" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
12 Mar 2007 08:28:07 PM |
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"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
What a shame that he had to hide his non-belief (not that his beliefs should
matter) for 34 years just to do a job. Land of the free? My arse. I wonder
what the extreme right wing republican neo-facist fundies like duke will
make of all this?
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| User: "Ken" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
14 Mar 2007 03:34:30 PM |
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On Mar 12, 6:28 pm, "kingdoodlesquat"
<neggerschegg...@negatseacatspam.com> wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopel...@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
What a shame that he had to hide his non-belief (not that his beliefs should
matter) for 34 years just to do a job. Land of the free? My arse. I wonder
what the extreme right wing republican neo-facist fundies like duke will
make of all this?
All right Pete Stark!
He's my Congressman (SF Bay Area) and I've been voting for him for
decades. The Repugnuts always hangs some poor sucker out to dry to run
against him, but Pete usually gets 80% or more of the votes here..Ken
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| User: "° Shanghai Lil °" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
13 Mar 2007 10:16:33 PM |
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kingdoodlesquat wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
What a shame that he had to hide his non-belief (not that his beliefs
should matter) for 34 years just to do a job. Land of the free? My
arse. I wonder what the extreme right wing republican neo-facist
fundies like duke will make of all this?
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "cactus" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
12 Mar 2007 10:08:43 PM |
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kingdoodlesquat wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
What a shame that he had to hide his non-belief (not that his beliefs should
matter) for 34 years just to do a job. Land of the free? My arse. I wonder
what the extreme right wing republican neo-facist fundies like duke will
make of all this?
May they choke.
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| User: "Donald E. Flood" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
13 Mar 2007 03:21:12 PM |
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"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
Is he an atheist or simply a "non-theist"?
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
13 Mar 2007 05:30:22 PM |
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"Donald E. Flood" <Jehanne@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:YIDJh.15566$PF.14895@attbi_s21...
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
Is he an atheist or simply a "non-theist"?
Is there a difference?
It would seem to me that not believing in a god is the same as not believing
in a god.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
14 Mar 2007 07:26:32 PM |
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Donald E. Flood wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
Is he an atheist or simply a "non-theist"?
There is a difference?
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
13 Mar 2007 10:44:49 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:26:32 -0500, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote:
Donald E. Flood wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
Is he an atheist or simply a "non-theist"?
There is a difference?
I don't agree with it but this is what Lori Lipman Brown told me,
"Dear Mr. Kaufman,
Since the Secular Coalition for America represents the interests of
people who identify themselves with various labels (e.g. atheist,
humanist, freethinker, bright, agnostic, ignostic, naturalist, etc.),
we looked for an "umbrella" term which most Americans who don't have
a god-belief would fit under. Since our focus is representing
Americans who don't hold a god-belief in matters of separation of
church and state, we try to avoid the semantic discussions about
which label is best.
Sincerely,
Lori Lipman Brown
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
14 Mar 2007 12:19:55 AM |
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Ben Kaufman wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:26:32 -0500, John Popelish
<jpopelish@rica.net> wrote:
Donald E. Flood wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
Is he an atheist or simply a "non-theist"?
There is a difference?
I don't agree with it but this is what Lori Lipman Brown told me,
"Dear Mr. Kaufman,
Since the Secular Coalition for America represents the interests of
people who identify themselves with various labels (e.g. atheist,
humanist, freethinker, bright, agnostic, ignostic, naturalist, etc.),
we looked for an "umbrella" term which most Americans who don't have
a god-belief would fit under. Since our focus is representing
Americans who don't hold a god-belief in matters of separation of
church and state, we try to avoid the semantic discussions about
which label is best.
I don't have a problem with the term "non-theist". I am a non-theist. If
the word "atheist" is so politically charged and carries a negative
connotation, it might help our cause to start using the term "non-theist".
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
14 Mar 2007 02:14:13 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZvGdnZvwJfCcG2rYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@centurytel.net...
Ben Kaufman wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:26:32 -0500, John Popelish
<jpopelish@rica.net> wrote:
Donald E. Flood wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
Is he an atheist or simply a "non-theist"?
There is a difference?
I don't agree with it but this is what Lori Lipman Brown told me,
"Dear Mr. Kaufman,
Since the Secular Coalition for America represents the interests of
people who identify themselves with various labels (e.g. atheist,
humanist, freethinker, bright, agnostic, ignostic, naturalist, etc.),
we looked for an "umbrella" term which most Americans who don't have
a god-belief would fit under. Since our focus is representing
Americans who don't hold a god-belief in matters of separation of
church and state, we try to avoid the semantic discussions about
which label is best.
I don't have a problem with the term "non-theist". I am a non-theist. If
the word "atheist" is so politically charged and carries a negative
connotation, it might help our cause to start using the term "non-theist".
Good point.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Who knew? We have had an atheist Congressman since 73! |
15 Mar 2007 07:31:41 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:19:55 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ben Kaufman wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:26:32 -0500, John Popelish
<jpopelish@rica.net> wrote:
Donald E. Flood wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:l_6dnTtoQJ8MamjYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@adelphia.com...
http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html
Is he an atheist or simply a "non-theist"?
There is a difference?
I don't agree with it but this is what Lori Lipman Brown told me,
"Dear Mr. Kaufman,
Since the Secular Coalition for America represents the interests of
people who identify themselves with various labels (e.g. atheist,
humanist, freethinker, bright, agnostic, ignostic, naturalist, etc.),
we looked for an "umbrella" term which most Americans who don't have
a god-belief would fit under. Since our focus is representing
Americans who don't hold a god-belief in matters of separation of
church and state, we try to avoid the semantic discussions about
which label is best.
I don't have a problem with the term "non-theist". I am a non-theist. If
the word "atheist" is so politically charged and carries a negative
connotation, it might help our cause to start using the term "non-theist".
I think it will back fire. The religious right herders will claim that avoiding
the term atheist is proof that atheists are "on the run" and there is something
to be ashamed of, just like being called godless.
Ben
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