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21 Dec 2006 02:00:13 AM |
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Who stole Jesus' foreskin? |
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
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Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
By David Farley
Posted Tuesday, Dec. 19, 2006, at 12:32 PM ET
In 1983, as the residents of Calcata, a small town 30 miles north of
Rome, prepared for their annual procession honoring a holy relic, a
shocking announcement from the parish priest put a damper on
festivities. "This year, the holy relic will not be exposed to the
devotion of the faithful. It has vanished. Sacrilegious thieves have
taken it from my home." Not since the Middle Ages, when lopped-off body
parts of divine do-gooders were bought, sold, and traded, has relic
theft been big news. But the mysterious disappearance of Calcata's
beloved curio is different.
This wasn't just the residuum of any holy humannor was it just any body
part. It was the foreskin of Jesus Christ, the snipped-off tip of the
savior's penis, the only piece of his body he supposedly left on earth.
Just what the holy foreskin was doing in the priest's housein a shoebox
at the back of his wardrobe, no lessand why and how it disappeared has
been debated ever since the relic vanished. Some suspect the village
priest sold it for a heavenly sum; others say it was stolen by thieves
and ended up on the relics black market; some even suggest Satanists or
neo-Nazis are responsible. But the most likely culprit is an unlikely
one: the Vatican.
And why not? Protestant doubt ("They couldn't let Christ's body go
without keeping a piece," John Calvin quipped) and the scientific
revolution, which changed our thinking from superstitious to skeptical,
have taken their toll on a relic that once rested high atop the pious
pecking order of blessed body parts. It's understandable that the
20th-century church began feeling a bit bashful about the idea of its
flock fawning over the 2,000-year-old tip of the redeemer's manhood.
Still, when I arrived in Calcata six months ago, the idea of a Vatican
theft of Jesus' foreskin sounded more like a ganja-induced brainstorming
session with Dan Brown and Danielle Steele. But some transplanted
bohemians, a deathbed confession, and a little historical context have
convinced me otherwise.
Even before its disappearance, the relic had a strange history. It was
discovered in Calcata in 1557, and a series of miracles soon followed
(freak storms, perfumed mists engulfing the village). The church gave
the finding a seal of approval by offering a 10-year indulgence to those
who came to venerate. Lines of pilgrims stretched from the church doors
to beyond the walls of the fortress town. Nuns and monks from nearby
villages and monasteries made candlelit processions. Calcata was a
must-see destination on the pilgrimage map.
That is, until 1900. Facing increasing criticism after the "rediscovery"
of a holy foreskin in France, the Vatican decreed that anyone who wrote
about or spoke the name of the holy foreskin would face excommunication.
And 54 years later, when a monk wanted to include Calcata in a
pilgrimage tour guide, Vatican officials didn't just reject the proposal
(after much debate). They upped the punishment: Now, anyone uttering its
name would face the harshest form of excommunication"infamous and to be
avoided"even as they concluded that Calcata's holy foreskin was more
legit than other claimants'.
But that wasn't the end of the holy foreskin. In the late 1960s,
government officials, worried that crumbling cliffs and threatening
earthquakes might doom the village, decided to build a new town. Hippies
discovered the newly abandoned town, which was awaiting a government
wrecking crew, and squatted in, then legally purchased, the vacated
buildings. Some of the bohemian transplants were intrigued by Calcata's
relic, which was now only shown to the public during the village's
annual New Year's Day procession (even though the Vatican II reforms
removed the Day of the Holy Circumcision from the church calendar). The
new residents began writing about the quirky event and relic for
newspapers in and around Rome, and Calcata's scandalous prepuce was
isolated no more. And the church took notice.
Was this the reason Dario Magnoni, the local priest, brought the relic
from the church to his home? Who knows. Magnoni refuses to speak about
the relic, citing the 1954 threat of excommunication. Magnoni's
predecessor, Mario Mastrocola, didn't want to talk about the relic,
either, but when asked if he was surprised to hear it had been stolen,
he shook his head. When pressed, he said, "The relic would not have been
taken away from Calcata if I were still the priest there."
Mastrocola's ambiguous wordswhile not directly incriminating
anyonehinted at underhanded church dealings (interview requests with the
Vatican went unanswered). And later, I found myself sitting in a wine
cellar halfway up the hill between the old and new villages of Calcata.
Capellone, the cellar's owner and a lifelong Calcatese, told me about
his close relationship with a former local bishop, Roberto Massimiliani.
Ailing in bed, the bishop told Capellone that when he was gone, so too
would be the relic. Bishop Massimiliani passed away soon after, in 1975.
Eight years after that, the relic disappeared. "To me, it almost felt
like a confession," said Capellone. "Like he needed to tell someone
before he died."
Could the "sacrilegious thieves" Magnoni mentioned in his 1983
announcement about the relic's disappearance actually have been Vatican
emissaries? The thought of masked, black-clad Vatican agents on a
mission to steal Jesus' foreskin does sound alluring. But for residents
like Capellone, who swear the Vatican now has the relic, the thief could
be Magnoni himself. Some locals claim they saw him go to Rome the day
before he made the announcement, generating speculation that the Vatican
asked for it and Magnoni not only failed to stand up to them, he
delivered the relic himself.
Sold, stolen, or delivered to the Vaticanor even all threethe holy
foreskin of Calcata is probably gone for good, even as some residents
persist in the hope that it will return. And the church is certainly
breathing a sigh of relief. While most of the other copies of the relic
were destroyed during the Reformation and the French Revolution,
Calcata's holy foreskin lived long past its expiration date, like a
dinosaur surviving the meteoric blast of the scientific revolution.
But if it had survived, it would have been only a matter of time before
someone wanted to clone it. And that could have given the Second Coming
an entirely new meaning.
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http://www.slate.com/id/2155745/?nav=tap3
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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21 Dec 2006 07:16:14 PM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-61DCC4.00001321122006@news.giganews.com...
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
Heheh, he said "around". Heheh.
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dloubet@io.com
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21 Dec 2006 11:53:11 PM |
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In article <1fydnY5ceqVDrBbYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@io.com>,
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-61DCC4.00001321122006@news.giganews.com...
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
Heheh, he said "around". Heheh.
Thanks, Beavis. :-)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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30 Dec 2006 06:27:42 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
Foreskin and seven bongs ago.........
[]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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31 Dec 2006 01:03:09 AM |
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In article <1v0ep2loahpb6lhggfhgjberu846od9n64@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
Foreskin and seven bongs ago.........
[]
Seven bongs and I wouldn't know who I was or what was I doing here.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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31 Dec 2006 08:32:16 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:03:09 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1v0ep2loahpb6lhggfhgjberu846od9n64@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
Foreskin and seven bongs ago.........
[]
Seven bongs and I wouldn't know who I was or what was I doing here.
So then you musterd a new nation......
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Uncle Clover" |
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31 Dec 2006 08:42:18 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:03:09 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
<snip>
Seven bongs and I wouldn't know who I was or what was I doing here.
Here's a little something to disturb your inner peace:
<a thousand little children's voices singing>
"It's a bong world after all... It's a bong world after all...
It's a bong world after all... It's a bong, bong worrrrld!"
</a thousand little children's voices singing>
(The above was to the tune of Disney's "It's a Small World After All")
Now if that tune starts going through your head anytime soon and just will not
go away, you'll hve -me- to thank. };-) muahahahahhh...
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
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The hardest person to say, "No!" to is to one's own self.
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Who we were is meaningless in the face of who we are, and
who we are is but a stepping stone to who we shall become
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31 Dec 2006 11:30:11 PM |
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In article <qksgp29vufuuptpkdo0ihmpduscsikpv35@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:03:09 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1v0ep2loahpb6lhggfhgjberu846od9n64@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
Foreskin and seven bongs ago.........
[]
Seven bongs and I wouldn't know who I was or what was I doing here.
So then you musterd a new nation......
A whole new nation? I must have higher than I thought I was..
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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03 Jan 2007 10:50:36 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:30:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qksgp29vufuuptpkdo0ihmpduscsikpv35@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:03:09 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1v0ep2loahpb6lhggfhgjberu846od9n64@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
Foreskin and seven bongs ago.........
[]
Seven bongs and I wouldn't know who I was or what was I doing here.
So then you musterd a new nation......
A whole new nation? I must have higher than I thought I was..
Evidentally so.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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31 Dec 2006 01:17:34 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:03:09 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <1v0ep2loahpb6lhggfhgjberu846od9n64@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
Foreskin and seven bongs ago.........
[]
Seven bongs and I wouldn't know who I was or what was I doing here.
Which reminds me of an ancient Apache saying:
"You're not really drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on..."
Okay, so it's not ancient Apache. But it's still cute. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
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The hardest person to say, "No!" to is to one's own self.
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Who we were is meaningless in the face of who we are, and
who we are is but a stepping stone to who we shall become
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~.
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| User: "johac" |
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31 Dec 2006 11:28:55 PM |
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In article <dtoep25153ij64vovgqvfvu0pjqfsplha1@4ax.com>,
Uncle Clover <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:03:09 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <1v0ep2loahpb6lhggfhgjberu846od9n64@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
Foreskin and seven bongs ago.........
[]
Seven bongs and I wouldn't know who I was or what was I doing here.
Which reminds me of an ancient Apache saying:
"You're not really drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on..."
Okay, so it's not ancient Apache. But it's still cute. :-)
LOL! That it is. I know the feeling. :-)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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21 Dec 2006 08:29:26 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
---
Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
By David Farley
Posted Tuesday, Dec. 19, 2006, at 12:32 PM ET
In 1983, as the residents of Calcata, a small town 30 miles north of
Rome, prepared for their annual procession honoring a holy relic, a
shocking announcement from the parish priest put a damper on
festivities. "This year, the holy relic will not be exposed to the
devotion of the faithful. It has vanished. Sacrilegious thieves have
taken it from my home." Not since the Middle Ages, when lopped-off body
parts of divine do-gooders were bought, sold, and traded, has relic
theft been big news. But the mysterious disappearance of Calcata's
beloved curio is different.
This wasn't just the residuum of any holy humannor was it just any body
part. It was the foreskin of Jesus Christ, the snipped-off tip of the
savior's penis, the only piece of his body he supposedly left on earth.
Well, it is not like He is going to use it...
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| User: "johac" |
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21 Dec 2006 11:50:27 PM |
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In article <qngmo2df90eol50vkmh4tf7qgdhaio9k1b@4ax.com>,
Daniel Kolle <daniel.kolle@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
---
Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
By David Farley
Posted Tuesday, Dec. 19, 2006, at 12:32 PM ET
In 1983, as the residents of Calcata, a small town 30 miles north of
Rome, prepared for their annual procession honoring a holy relic, a
shocking announcement from the parish priest put a damper on
festivities. "This year, the holy relic will not be exposed to the
devotion of the faithful. It has vanished. Sacrilegious thieves have
taken it from my home." Not since the Middle Ages, when lopped-off body
parts of divine do-gooders were bought, sold, and traded, has relic
theft been big news. But the mysterious disappearance of Calcata's
beloved curio is different.
This wasn't just the residuum of any holy humannor was it just any body
part. It was the foreskin of Jesus Christ, the snipped-off tip of the
savior's penis, the only piece of his body he supposedly left on earth.
Well, it is not like He is going to use it...
Heh! No xtian has been able to tell me. Is there sex in Heaven?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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23 Dec 2006 02:18:19 AM |
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johac wrote:
In article <qngmo2df90eol50vkmh4tf7qgdhaio9k1b@4ax.com>,
Daniel Kolle <daniel.kolle@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
---
Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
By David Farley
Posted Tuesday, Dec. 19, 2006, at 12:32 PM ET
In 1983, as the residents of Calcata, a small town 30 miles north of
Rome, prepared for their annual procession honoring a holy relic, a
shocking announcement from the parish priest put a damper on
festivities. "This year, the holy relic will not be exposed to the
devotion of the faithful. It has vanished. Sacrilegious thieves have
taken it from my home." Not since the Middle Ages, when lopped-off body
parts of divine do-gooders were bought, sold, and traded, has relic
theft been big news. But the mysterious disappearance of Calcata's
beloved curio is different.
This wasn't just the residuum of any holy humannor was it just any body
part. It was the foreskin of Jesus Christ, the snipped-off tip of the
savior's penis, the only piece of his body he supposedly left on earth.
Well, it is not like He is going to use it...
Heh! No xtian has been able to tell me. Is there sex in Heaven?
You want Sam Clemens' answer?
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21 Dec 2006 10:18:19 AM |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
---
Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
Which answers the question of what could fools buy before the Brooklyn Bridge
was built?
Ben
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21 Dec 2006 11:54:47 PM |
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In article <foclo2poghgteb8798ghv34nbsd9t47ml4@4ax.com>,
Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
---
Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
Which answers the question of what could fools buy before the Brooklyn Bridge
was built?
Ben
There were likely all sorts of 'relics' on sale in the old times.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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21 Dec 2006 07:34:31 AM |
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johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism
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Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
By David Farley
Posted Tuesday, Dec. 19, 2006, at 12:32 PM ET
In 1983, as the residents of Calcata, a small town 30 miles north of
Rome, prepared for their annual procession honoring a holy relic, a
shocking announcement from the parish priest put a damper on
festivities. "This year, the holy relic will not be exposed to the
devotion of the faithful. It has vanished. Sacrilegious thieves have
taken it from my home." Not since the Middle Ages, when lopped-off body
parts of divine do-gooders were bought, sold, and traded, has relic
theft been big news. But the mysterious disappearance of Calcata's
beloved curio is different.
This wasn't just the residuum of any holy humannor was it just any body
part. It was the foreskin of Jesus Christ, the snipped-off tip of the
savior's penis, the only piece of his body he supposedly left on earth.
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce
"In a 1997 television documentary for Channel 4, British journalist
Miles Kington travelled to Italy in search of the Holy Foreskin, but
was unable to find any remaining example."
Anybody see that show?
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www.elroysemporium.com
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21 Dec 2006 11:55:21 PM |
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In article <283lo2dvirpvjd7uuc0he67evc02k7ukmu@4ax.com>,
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism
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Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
By David Farley
Posted Tuesday, Dec. 19, 2006, at 12:32 PM ET
In 1983, as the residents of Calcata, a small town 30 miles north of
Rome, prepared for their annual procession honoring a holy relic, a
shocking announcement from the parish priest put a damper on
festivities. "This year, the holy relic will not be exposed to the
devotion of the faithful. It has vanished. Sacrilegious thieves have
taken it from my home." Not since the Middle Ages, when lopped-off body
parts of divine do-gooders were bought, sold, and traded, has relic
theft been big news. But the mysterious disappearance of Calcata's
beloved curio is different.
This wasn't just the residuum of any holy humannor was it just any body
part. It was the foreskin of Jesus Christ, the snipped-off tip of the
savior's penis, the only piece of his body he supposedly left on earth.
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce
"In a 1997 television documentary for Channel 4, British journalist
Miles Kington travelled to Italy in search of the Holy Foreskin, but
was unable to find any remaining example."
Anybody see that show?
Nope.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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21 Dec 2006 10:23:13 AM |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:34:31 GMT, Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism
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Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
By David Farley
Posted Tuesday, Dec. 19, 2006, at 12:32 PM ET
In 1983, as the residents of Calcata, a small town 30 miles north of
Rome, prepared for their annual procession honoring a holy relic, a
shocking announcement from the parish priest put a damper on
festivities. "This year, the holy relic will not be exposed to the
devotion of the faithful. It has vanished. Sacrilegious thieves have
taken it from my home." Not since the Middle Ages, when lopped-off body
parts of divine do-gooders were bought, sold, and traded, has relic
theft been big news. But the mysterious disappearance of Calcata's
beloved curio is different.
This wasn't just the residuum of any holy humannor was it just any body
part. It was the foreskin of Jesus Christ, the snipped-off tip of the
savior's penis, the only piece of his body he supposedly left on earth.
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce
"In a 1997 television documentary for Channel 4, British journalist
Miles Kington travelled to Italy in search of the Holy Foreskin, but
was unable to find any remaining example."
Anybody see that show?
Was that the one where they compared the ability to have a resurrection in
circumcised versus non-circumcised deities?
Ben
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22 Dec 2006 07:30:29 AM |
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Ben Kaufman wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism
This wasn't just the residuum of any holy humannor was it just any body
part. It was the foreskin of Jesus Christ, the snipped-off tip of the
savior's penis, the only piece of his body he supposedly left on earth.
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce
"In a 1997 television documentary for Channel 4, British journalist
Miles Kington travelled to Italy in search of the Holy Foreskin, but
was unable to find any remaining example."
Anybody see that show?
Was that the one where they compared the ability to have a resurrection in
circumcised versus non-circumcised deities?
I dunno, I didn't see it. I thought maybe some Brits around here
might've seen it.
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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21 Dec 2006 07:28:54 PM |
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johac wrote:
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
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Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
....
It became Saturn's rings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce
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22 Dec 2006 05:59:38 AM |
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Father Haskell <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism
johac wrote:
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
---
Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
It became Saturn's rings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce
I thought you were joking, but it's true!
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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23 Dec 2006 01:04:04 AM |
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In article <r3ino296ugsajamre6vqebkbq0tlh0ef53@4ax.com>,
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Father Haskell <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism
johac wrote:
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
---
Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
It became Saturn's rings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce
I thought you were joking, but it's true!
I had to look that up too. That's one of the craziest things that I
heard. That goes in the 'talking snake' file.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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21 Dec 2006 11:52:29 PM |
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In article <1166750934.829517.51850@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
I wasn't there. I didn't do it. Nobody saw me.
I know that this has been around before but I thought some of the
information here was interesting.
---
Fore Shame
Did the Vatican steal Jesus' foreskin so people would shut up about the
savior's penis?
...
It became Saturn's rings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce
LOL! Now that is strange. I wonder if the Cassini probe will send back
evidence. :-)
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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