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"J Young" |
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24 Jul 2005 10:53:31 AM |
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Why are Atheists such angry people? |
Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup. What are these people
always so angry about? If someone posts anything that doesn't support
or endorse the atheistic point of view, "Watch out!!" What frustrates
them the most is rational points-of-view that doesn't insult or degrade
anyone. It's understandable to be angry if someone starts name-calling
or insulting one's integrity; what's not understandable is when
atheists revert to that exact type of behavior in responce to opinions
of social or political events that disprove their own theories. When I
see "TROLL, TROLL!!!" followed by <PLONK, PLONK>, I know I've won my
argument.
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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| Title: Re: Why are Atheists such angry people? |
24 Jul 2005 01:35:40 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup. When I see "TROLL,
TROLL!!!" followed by <PLONK, PLONK>, I know I've won my argument.
"See? When I post drivel and people complain about it, I know
my trolling has won!"
Man, you *have* to stop reading the Evil Overlords list. You
can't pull it off.
Elf
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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24 Jul 2005 05:23:04 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup.
$$ It looks like you never visited any of the religious NGs.
What are these people
always so angry about?
$$ Which people?
If someone posts anything that doesn't support
or endorse the atheistic point of view, "Watch out!!"
$$ WOW,... just like on the religious NGs.
What frustrates
them the most is rational points-of-view that doesn't insult or degrade
anyone. It's understandable to be angry if someone starts name-calling
or insulting one's integrity;
$$ The religious nuts are good at that.....
what's not understandable is when
atheists revert to that exact type of behavior in responce to opinions
of social or political events that disprove their own theories. When I
see "TROLL, TROLL!!!" followed by <PLONK, PLONK>, I know I've won my
argument.
$$ I doubt you will win any argument anywhere. You get PLONKED when they
realize you're mentally ill or unable to learn something.
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CR...........
http://silentlambs.org
www.freeminds.org
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Why are Atheists such angry people? |
24 Jul 2005 12:56:02 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Holy Sh*t!
Why are Christians such angry people?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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24 Jul 2005 05:45:55 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Holy Sh*t!
Why are Christians such angry people?
Because they aren't able to force their dismal mythology
on the entire world. The fundamentalist ones, that is.
They resent that the rest of the world refuses to live
under the kind of psychological torture that they do.
They don't understand that they don't have to live in
constant terror all the time and in their fear and anger
want everyone to suffer as they do. They know that all
their blather about wanting to save peoples' souls is
just a load of lies. All their fundy religion teaches them
is fear and hatred, and they want to drag everyone
down to their pitiful level. They also know that most
of their conversion efforts will end in failure. That
makes them even angrier. And what is it that these
fundamentalist Christians fear so much that it drives
many of them insane - something that doesn't even
exist but that their church uses to keep them totally
mentally enslaved - hell and eternal torture. If only
they could understand that the real hell is their
horrifying religion. And, the real devils are their
ministers.
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Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
alt.atheism atheist/agnostic list name collector
BAAWA Knight & EAC Bible thumper thumper
http://questioner.www2.50megs.com
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Mickey" |
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24 Jul 2005 01:04:08 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Holy Sh*t!
Why are Christians such angry people?
Not all are... this one is simply a moron, who cannot think for himself, but
armed with a computer, a connection and the knowledge cut and paste, can
pimp for others like him, who actually CAN think
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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24 Jul 2005 11:06:54 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:1122220410.991849.94170
@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup. What are these people
always so angry about? If someone posts anything that doesn't support
or endorse the atheistic point of view, "Watch out!!" What frustrates
them the most is rational points-of-view that doesn't insult or degrade
anyone. It's understandable to be angry if someone starts name-calling
or insulting one's integrity; what's not understandable is when
atheists revert to that exact type of behavior in responce to opinions
of social or political events that disprove their own theories. When I
see "TROLL, TROLL!!!" followed by <PLONK, PLONK>, I know I've won my
argument.
you live much too sheltered a life. I can name more than a few newsgroups
that have their resident troll(s) and the resultant hate and discontent is
rather remarkable.
rj
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| User: "Niels van der Linden" |
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24 Jul 2005 12:54:04 PM |
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Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup.
Yes: quite a lot of angry, raging, frustrated theists can be found at the
atheist newsgroup.
Here is a nice example too:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/comments.html
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/comments2.html
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/comments3.html
--
Niels
Alt.Atheist #2237
"The thing that saved me was Upanishads; Hinduism. Where you have
practically the same mythology [as Roman Catholicism], but it has been
intellectually interpreted. Say, already in the 9th century BC the Hindus
realized that all the deities are projections of psychological powers and
they are within you not out there [points away]."
-Joseph Campbell in The Hero's Journey
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| User: "Niels van der Linden" |
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24 Jul 2005 02:23:05 PM |
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Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup. What are these people
always so angry about? If someone posts anything that doesn't support
or endorse the atheistic point of view, "Watch out!!" What frustrates
them the most is rational points-of-view that doesn't insult or degrade
anyone. It's understandable to be angry if someone starts name-calling
or insulting one's integrity; what's not understandable is when
atheists revert to that exact type of behavior in responce to opinions
of social or political events that disprove their own theories. When I
see "TROLL, TROLL!!!" followed by <PLONK, PLONK>, I know I've won my
argument.
If you can show how not believing in Santa Claus, or other evidence-less
things, makes people 'angry', you might have a chance of being taken
seriously.
--
Niels
Alt.Atheist #2237
"The thing that saved me was Upanishads; Hinduism. Where you have
practically the same mythology [as Roman Catholicism], but it has been
intellectually interpreted. Say, already in the 9th century BC the Hindus
realized that all the deities are projections of psychological powers and
they are within you not out there [points away]."
-Joseph Campbell in The Hero's Journey
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| User: "Sasha" |
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24 Jul 2005 11:07:28 AM |
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When I see "TROLL, TROLL!!!" followed by <PLONK, PLONK>, I know I've won my
argument.
Actually, what you're seeing is parenting at its best. The "Trolls" and
"plonks" are akin to a good mother or father saying "there, there" when
their energetic child is spouting off about Santa Claus and the Easter
Bunny in a crowded mall.
Now, run along and go play outside with your fundie friends. Maybe your
Jesus will leave you a nice gift on your pillow when you come back?
Perhaps a lifetime of mindless servitude or an overwhelming desire to
judge others while believing that the world is only 6,000 years old?
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| User: "Bad Wolf" |
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24 Jul 2005 11:32:54 AM |
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Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:
When I
see "TROLL, TROLL!!!" followed by <PLONK, PLONK>, I know I've won my
argument.
Some facts, dickbrain:
1) You are pathetically stupid
2) I don't have a killfile, and most of us in alt.atheism obviously
don't have you in theirs.
3) You have never, ever posted your own thoughts or annotations with
the screeds of hysterical nonsense you tend to post here
4) If you are trying to infer that people's reactions to the screeds
of hate filled, bigoted Christian filth (please excuse the multiple
tautology, I left the redundancies in for emphasis) you post here
justify your arguments when you haven't even got any of your own, then
that just goes to prove that you are running away from any debate.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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24 Jul 2005 03:54:00 PM |
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In news:1122220410.991849.94170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Holy Sh*t!
That's pretty much the reason, right there.
Please go away.
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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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26 Jul 2005 09:11:05 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup.
Why? Have they been bombing churches? Assassinating unbelievers?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Johnny" |
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26 Jul 2005 09:17:01 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup.
Why? Have they been bombing churches? Assassinating unbelievers?
Thanks for the tip.
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| User: "Olrik" |
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25 Jul 2005 12:18:40 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup.
Or anything else online, sadly :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/22/AR2005072201630.html
What are these people
always so angry about?
You?
If someone posts anything that doesn't support
or endorse the atheistic point of view, "Watch out!!"
Reaction to postings of political stuff does not ellicit an "atheistic
point of view". Although the atheists here, me included, tend to be
"centrists" or left-of-center, there are a few right-wingers like Duke
Stone and Fred Duke, to name one. (Just kidding...)
What frustrates
them the most is rational points-of-view that doesn't insult or degrade
anyone. It's understandable to be angry if someone starts name-calling
or insulting one's integrity; what's not understandable is when
atheists revert to that exact type of behavior in responce to opinions
of social or political events that disprove their own theories. When I
see "TROLL, TROLL!!!" followed by <PLONK, PLONK>, I know I've won my
argument.
You sometimes post stuff just to get gut reactions, or so it seems.
That's called "trolling". As for "plonking", I never really plonked
anyone. And being "plonked" is in no way, shape or form a "win" for
"your" argument ("your" is in quotes because you mostly post other
people's arguments.)
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "J Young" |
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25 Jul 2005 12:32:08 AM |
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Olrik wrote:
You sometimes post stuff just to get gut reactions, or so it seems.
That's called "trolling". As for "plonking", I never really plonked
anyone. And being "plonked" is in no way, shape or form a "win" for
"your" argument ("your" is in quotes because you mostly post other
people's arguments.)
Perhaps I need a make-over. I DO attempt sometimes to get a gut
reaction, but only for the purpose of stimulating discussion. My
intentions are pure, it's my tactics that need work. As for "winning",
I don't really consider myself as winning or losing, but I do find it
extremely childish to tell someone that they've been "plonked".
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| User: "LC" |
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25 Jul 2005 09:47:27 AM |
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Bigot and schizotroll "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Olrik wrote:
You sometimes post stuff just to get gut reactions, or so it seems.
That's called "trolling". As for "plonking", I never really plonked
anyone. And being "plonked" is in no way, shape or form a "win" for
"your" argument ("your" is in quotes because you mostly post other
people's arguments.)
Perhaps I need a make-over.
I smell a new sockpuppet in the offing.
I DO attempt sometimes to get a gut reaction, but only for the purpose of
stimulating discussion.
LOL! When this troll posts, this troll lies.
You troll and run, just like the coward you are.
My intentions are pure, it's my tactics that need work.
Uh huh. Anyone that wants can Google up your work as "IBen Getiner"
<Lappcatt@AOL.com> and see how "pure" your intentions are.
As for "winning", I don't really consider myself as winning or losing, but
I do find it
extremely childish to tell someone that they've been "plonked".
Quit whining, troll.
LC~ Don't go away mad, "J". Just go away.
"***** you, IBen/JYoung. You're too busy devising forged identities to
hide behind. As for "freedom of choice", the court found that the
young woman had miscarried as a result of being physically assaulted by
her boyfriend. So, ***** you again, IBen/JYoung. Don't bother
attempting to connect the dots into a CLUE that eluded you the first
time around - do the net a favor and drown yourself in a pool of your
own vomit."
From: "spartakus@my-deja.com" <spartakus@my-deja.com>
Message-ID: <1118245740.522659.223560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "" |
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25 Jul 2005 01:15:05 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Olrik wrote:
You sometimes post stuff just to get gut reactions, or so it seems.
That's called "trolling". As for "plonking", I never really plonked
anyone. And being "plonked" is in no way, shape or form a "win" for
"your" argument ("your" is in quotes because you mostly post other
people's arguments.)
Perhaps I need a make-over. I DO attempt sometimes to get a gut
reaction, but only for the purpose of stimulating discussion.
But you're not responding or discussing much, as far as I can tell.
My intentions are pure, it's my tactics that need work. As for "winning",
I don't really consider myself as winning or losing, but I do find it
extremely childish to tell someone that they've been "plonked".
Being "plonked" is nothing to fret about.
My suggestions would be for you to start fewer threads and join other
discussions.
Olrik
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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25 Jul 2005 03:12:35 PM |
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On 24 Jul 2005 22:32:08 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Perhaps I need a make-over. I DO attempt sometimes to get a gut
reaction, but only for the purpose of stimulating discussion.
Bull Shite!
You attempt to get a gut reaction, so that you can whinge, and act self
righteous, about "angry atheists".
My
intentions are pure,
Yep, pure malice.
it's my tactics that need work. As for "winning",
I don't really consider myself as winning or losing, but I do find it
extremely childish to tell someone that they've been "plonked".
So it is childish for someone to point out that your posts are so ridiculous,
insulting, ignorant, whatever, that they are blocking all farther receipt of
them?
Interesting
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling, Like any opinion stated here,
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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25 Jul 2005 02:38:25 AM |
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Olrik wrote:
J Young wrote:
Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup.
Apparently the man has never been to free.christians.
We get angry and frustrated but agree we are atheists.
They get angry and frustrated telling each other that they are christians
but the others aren't.
Put the atheists in a room and a cry for more beer would go out.
Put the christians in a room and a cry for more biers would go out.
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| User: "" |
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25 Jul 2005 03:26:23 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup. What are these people
always so angry about?
Oh, one can speculate...
Because they hate themselves.
''''''' they can't maintain successful, long-lasting personal or
family relationships.
''''''' they spend every Christmas Day alone (or just as bad;
with another loser, cretin, lonely and hateful atheist, celebrating
their Lord and Savior, the late, minced & diced Madeline Murray
O'Hayer).
''''''''they can't forget their days as school kids, being the
ones never invited to birthday parties, never even being noticed
by anything other than the flies that buzzed their heads.
''''''''they tire of living every day thinking their beliefs are
something so important, yet having the uneasy suspicion that no
one but them really gives a ***** about them.
''''''''they tire of the atheist hallucinations, including
the common one in which the Christians keep coming at them
from behind bushes and trees, trying to convert them.
''''''''they tire of going apeshit every time they see "In God
We Trust" on every piece of pocket change they have.
''''''''even they tire of having the same arguments, over and
over again--and never getting anywhere--and of always having
to dust off the same quotes by Paine and Jefferson which they think
proves that America isn't a Christian nation.
''''''''they tire of going into a complete body spasm every time
they see a commercial for their favorite movie, _It's a Wonderful
Life_, or see the giant Christmas Tree at Rockefeller Center all
lit up.
''''''''they're angry because everyone forgets that even atheist
turds need love too.... The reasons are myriad....
--
Cliff
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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26 Jul 2005 07:23:05 PM |
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wrote in news:1122323183.699722.22980
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
J Young wrote:
Holy Sh*t!, If ever you want to see people express their rage and
frustrations online, visit an atheist newsgroup. What are these people
always so angry about?
Oh, one can speculate...
Working without facts comes easy, if you start young, in Sunday school.
Because they hate themselves.
No, not the atheists I know. We're a pretty fun group.
''''''' they can't maintain successful, long-lasting personal or
family relationships.
My wife and I celebrate our 19th wedding anniversery tonight, and
September 9th will be the 27th anniversery of our first date. That first
date was at a beach party that continues every summer since. Over half
the people who attend are atheists. Don't you hate it when facts spoil a
good story? No? I guess practice helps you ignore facts.
''''''' they spend every Christmas Day alone (or just as bad;
with another loser, cretin, lonely and hateful atheist, celebrating
their Lord and Savior, the late, minced & diced Madeline Murray
O'Hayer).
Never met her. I've read some of her writings. Have you? No? Afraid
of more facts?
''''''''they can't forget their days as school kids, being the
ones never invited to birthday parties, never even being noticed
by anything other than the flies that buzzed their heads.
*****'s getting deap here. Sounds like a personal remminicence to me.
How long have you been carrying this resentment around?
''''''''they tire of living every day thinking their beliefs are
something so important, yet having the uneasy suspicion that no
one but them really gives a ***** about them.
What beliefs? Do you pay insurance for a car you don't own? I don't
think beliefs I don't hold are important.
''''''''they tire of the atheist hallucinations, including
the common one in which the Christians keep coming at them
from behind bushes and trees, trying to convert them.
Chased the Mormons away two weeks ago.
''''''''they tire of going apeshit every time they see "In God
We Trust" on every piece of pocket change they have.
Naw. We like seeing *you* squirm when you have to defend such tripe as
"vitally important to the history of America" whiule at the same time
claiming that "it's not a religious statement because it's been used so
much and for so long."
''''''''even they tire of having the same arguments, over and
over again--and never getting anywhere--and of always having
to dust off the same quotes by Paine and Jefferson which they think
proves that America isn't a Christian nation.
Well, if you weren't so thick, we could explain a fact to you and then
move on. But you are, so we must.
''''''''they tire of going into a complete body spasm every time
they see a commercial for their favorite movie, _It's a Wonderful
Life_, or see the giant Christmas Tree at Rockefeller Center all
lit up.
Private property, no problem. Are you always this stupid, or are you in
trainning for the Olymics? I don't think "Stupidity" is an event.
''''''''they're angry because everyone forgets that even atheist
turds need love too.... The reasons are myriad....
From Christians like you, this is the "love" we've come to expect.
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
My dog was first in his class at Harvard Divinity School.
-- bumper sticker
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28 Jul 2005 02:45:05 PM |
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Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
Working without facts comes easy, if you start young, in Sunday school.
Most religions require something a brain-dead atheist doesn't have:
higher brain function. You, OTOH, have to be told "facts" about
everything
in order for it to be processed. So tell me the "facts" of your
existence (you do believe you exist don't you?). You can go all
the way back to the beginning, back when t = 0, with "t" being the
age of the universe. (This could be fun.) I know I'm getting
way over your head, but hey, I've got a few minutes. You live
in a universe we are so ignorant about, that nobody can prove
even whether it is open, or closed. Many in the astrophysics community
still can't see how we (including the entire cosmos) even exist at
all. Your whole shitty life is based mostly on unknowns, not the
"facts" that you claim to live by. Yet atheists have the amusing
quality of arrogance, combined with ignorance. I can understand
agnosticism for some, but atheists have ***** for brains. A lot
of you can't even read at a 5th grade level apparently.
My wife and I celebrate our 19th wedding anniversery tonight, and
September 9th will be the 27th anniversery of our first date. That first
date was at a beach party that continues every summer since. Over half
the people who attend are atheists. Don't you hate it when facts spoil a
good story? No? I guess practice helps you ignore facts.
A good story is perhaps all it is; I have no way of knowing. Even if
true, a lot of people go through decades of bad marriage. Do you want
a medal? Year-counting doesn't necessarily mean much. BTW, I've
been happily married for over 26 years.
Never met her. I've read some of her writings. Have you?
No. I've seen interviews with her, which was quite enough.
She was a one-verse singer, and the tune wasn't too pretty.
No? Afraid of more facts?
The one fact that sticks in my mind is that she's now resting
in pieces, courtesy of an associate of hers. How beautifully
fitting!
*****'s getting deap here. Sounds like a personal remminicence to me.
It would.
How long have you been carrying this resentment around?
Dream on. I was the kid who _always_ got the invites...was
a Donny Osmond-esq look-alike at the time...the little girlies
loved me!!
What beliefs?
That God is dead.
Do you pay insurance for a car you don't own? I don't
think beliefs I don't hold are important.
I suspect you all come up with little quips like this when you
get together to plan your--imaginary--battle against the evil
Christians.
Chased the Mormons away two weeks ago.
Unnecessary. They wouldn't have wanted you after 15 seconds
of being so close.
Naw. We like seeing *you* squirm when you have to defend such tripe as
"vitally important to the history of America" whiule at the same time
claiming that "it's not a religious statement because it's been used so
much and for so long."
Huh? You're just blowing stuff out your ***** left and right here.
Well, if you weren't so thick, we could explain a fact to you and then
move on. But you are, so we must.
No, it's called being in dire need of some new material.
Private property, no problem.
So does this mean you actually like _It's a Wonderful Life_ and the
Christmas Tree at Rockefeller Center? Most cities in America still
put up Christmas decorations all along the public streets and roads.
So much for your private property claim...Maybe you should tell NBC
not to broadcast the movie over the public airwaves this year.
Are you always this stupid, or are you in
trainning for the Olymics? I don't think "Stupidity" is an event.
I'm dumbstruck, you're a comic genius! (I'd hold off on that
Tonight Show audition.)
From Christians like you, this is the "love" we've come to expect.
Why should anybody love a pile of ignorant horseshit?
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Cliff
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28 Jul 2005 10:59:28 PM |
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<clifffreeling@yahoo.com> wrote:
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
Working without facts comes easy, if you start young, in Sunday school.
Most religions require something a brain-dead atheist doesn't have:
higher brain function.
Blind acceptance reauires no intelligence at all.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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29 Jul 2005 03:17:42 AM |
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"Gay Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Are you ever going to stop posting your DNC propaganda?
How much do your masters at the DNC pay you anyway?
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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28 Jul 2005 09:36:02 PM |
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wrote in
news:1122579905.117961.48730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
Working without facts comes easy, if you start young, in Sunday
school.
Most religions require something a brain-dead atheist doesn't have:
higher brain function. You, OTOH, have to be told "facts" about
everything
in order for it to be processed. So tell me the "facts" of your
existence (you do believe you exist don't you?). You can go all
the way back to the beginning, back when t = 0, with "t" being the
age of the universe. (This could be fun.) I know I'm getting
way over your head, but hey, I've got a few minutes. You live
in a universe we are so ignorant about, that nobody can prove
even whether it is open, or closed. Many in the astrophysics
community still can't see how we (including the entire cosmos) even
exist at all. Your whole shitty life is based mostly on unknowns, not
the "facts" that you claim to live by. Yet atheists have the amusing
quality of arrogance, combined with ignorance. I can understand
agnosticism for some, but atheists have ***** for brains. A lot
of you can't even read at a 5th grade level apparently.
So, because we you don't know a lot, you know God exists. Pretty solid
argument from ignorance there, Skippy!
My wife and I celebrate our 19th wedding anniversery tonight, and
September 9th will be the 27th anniversery of our first date. That
first date was at a beach party that continues every summer since.
Over half the people who attend are atheists. Don't you hate it when
facts spoil a good story? No? I guess practice helps you ignore
facts.
A good story is perhaps all it is; I have no way of knowing. Even if
true, a lot of people go through decades of bad marriage. Do you want
a medal? Year-counting doesn't necessarily mean much. BTW, I've
been happily married for over 26 years.
Believe what you want.
Never met her. I've read some of her writings. Have you?
No. I've seen interviews with her, which was quite enough.
She was a one-verse singer, and the tune wasn't too pretty.
Too bad atheists don't follow a leader.
No? Afraid of more facts?
The one fact that sticks in my mind is that she's now resting
in pieces, courtesy of an associate of hers. How beautifully
fitting!
As are many a Christian. God did as much to save her as He did anyone
else.
*****'s getting deap here. Sounds like a personal remminicence to me.
It would.
How long have you been carrying this resentment around?
Dream on. I was the kid who _always_ got the invites...was
a Donny Osmond-esq look-alike at the time...the little girlies
loved me!!
No accounting for poor taste.
What beliefs?
That God is dead.
When did He die? Was it after or before He was created? (Can't die if He
never lived.)
Do you pay insurance for a car you don't own? I don't
think beliefs I don't hold are important.
I suspect you all come up with little quips like this when you
get together to plan your--imaginary--battle against the evil
Christians.
Evil? No, Wilfully ignorant Christians.
Chased the Mormons away two weeks ago.
Unnecessary. They wouldn't have wanted you after 15 seconds
of being so close.
I'll tell them you said so next time. I doubt they care what you think.
Naw. We like seeing *you* squirm when you have to defend such tripe
as "vitally important to the history of America" while at the same
time claiming that "it's not a religious statement because it's been
used so much and for so long."
Huh? You're just blowing stuff out your ***** left and right here.
My ***** points straigh out the back. Yours seems to be just above your
eyes.
Well, if you weren't so thick, we could explain a fact to you and
then move on. But you are, so we must.
No, it's called being in dire need of some new material.
So offer some.
Private property, no problem.
So does this mean you actually like _It's a Wonderful Life_ and the
Christmas Tree at Rockefeller Center? Most cities in America still
put up Christmas decorations all along the public streets and roads.
So much for your private property claim...Maybe you should tell NBC
not to broadcast the movie over the public airwaves this year.
As a matter of fact, I own a copy of "It's a Wonderful Life". Good
fiction. And we put up a Yule Tree every winter.
Are you always this stupid, or are you in
trainning for the Olymics? I don't think "Stupidity" is an event.
I'm dumbstruck, you're a comic genius! (I'd hold off on that
Tonight Show audition.)
It was a serious question.
From Christians like you, this is the "love" we've come to expect.
Why should anybody love a pile of ignorant horseshit?
Ah, is that the "other cheek", the Christian love and tolerance we've all
heard so much about?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
When I die I won't go to heaven or hell, there will just be nothingness.
-- Isaac Asimov, interviewed in Bill Moyers'
television series "A World of Ideas"
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| User: "" |
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29 Jul 2005 07:52:35 AM |
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Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
So, because we you don't know a lot, you know God exists.
No, just calling you on your *****...you and the "facts" that
you live by.
Pretty solid argument from ignorance there,
And your 5th grade response is indicative of your
dendrite density.
Too bad atheists don't follow a leader.
Nah, you just all get together and talk that ***** you talk.
But hey, I guess it beats sitting home and popping pimples.
When did He die? Was it after or before He was created? (Can't die if He
never lived.)
But wait, aren't you vilolating one of the little rules? Isn't the
claim
that most atheists here don't believe in God, but also don't believe
that
there is no God (whatever that means)? You've just claimed that God
does not exist, and has not ever existed. Therefore, you are claiming
to believe that there is no God. Get your story straight, moron.
So offer some.
I'm all out of charity, especially for moronic atheists.
As a matter of fact, I own a copy of "It's a Wonderful Life". Good
fiction. And we put up a Yule Tree every winter.
What a hypocrite. The little atheist puts up a Christmas Tree every
year!
What do you decorate it with?
It was a serious question.
I can believe that.
--
Cliff
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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30 Jul 2005 09:59:09 PM |
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wrote in
news:1122641555.627223.113630@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
So, because we you don't know a lot, you know God exists.
No, just calling you on your *****...you and the "facts" that
you live by.
Give me a fact that supports your God's existance.
Pretty solid argument from ignorance there,
And your 5th grade response is indicative of your
dendrite density.
Give me a fact that supports your God's existance.
Too bad atheists don't follow a leader.
Nah, you just all get together and talk that ***** you talk.
But hey, I guess it beats sitting home and popping pimples.
We don't get together every Sunday to get our story straight. Seems
Christians have to get together and talk ***** more often than atheists.
When did He die? Was it after or before He was created? (Can't die
if He never lived.)
But wait, aren't you vilolating one of the little rules? Isn't the
claim
that most atheists here don't believe in God, but also don't believe
that
there is no God (whatever that means)? You've just claimed that God
does not exist, and has not ever existed. Therefore, you are claiming
to believe that there is no God. Get your story straight, moron.
I claim tha God does not exist in the same spirit I claim Santa and the
Oster Bunny don't exist. Never seen any evidence in support of any of
them. Got any evidence?
So offer some.
I'm all out of charity, especially for moronic atheists.
Got any evidence? No? Just blowing smoke out your *****, then.
As a matter of fact, I own a copy of "It's a Wonderful Life". Good
fiction. And we put up a Yule Tree every winter.
What a hypocrite. The little atheist puts up a Christmas Tree every
year!
What do you decorate it with?
It's a "Yule Tree".
[quote]
Origins of the Christmas Tree:
o Pagan traditions: Many Pagan cultures used to cut down evergreen trees
in December, moved them into the home or temple and decorated them. 7
Modern-day Pagans still do. This was to recognize the winter solstice --
the time of the year that had the shortest daylight hours, and longest
night of the year. This occurs annually sometime between DEC-20 to 23.
They noticed that the days were gradually getting shorter; many feared
that the sun would eventually disappear forever, and everyone would
freeze. But, even though deciduous trees, bushes, and crops died or
hibernated for the winter, the evergreen trees remained green. They
seemed to have magical powers that enabled them to withstand the rigors
of winter.
o Not having evergreen trees, the ancient Egyptians considered the palm
tree to symbolize resurrection. They decorated their homes with its
branches during the winter solstice. 3
o "The first decorating of an evergreen tree began with the heathen
Greeks and their worship of their god Adonia, who allegedly was brought
back to life by the serpent Aessulapius after having been slain."
o The ancient Pagan Romans decorated their "trees with bits of metal and
replicas of their god, Bacchus [a fertility god]. They also placed 12
candles on the tree in honor of their sun god" 2 Their mid-winter
festival of Saturnalia started on DEC-17 and often lasted until a few
days after the Solstice.
o In Northern Europe, the ancient Druids tied fruit and attached candles
to evergreen tree branches, in honor of their god Woden. Trees were
viewed as symbolizing eternal life. This is the deity after which
Wednesday was named. The trees joined holly, mistletoe, the wassail bowl
and the Yule log as symbols of the season. All predated Christianity.
[/quote]
It was a serious question.
I can believe that.
You believe things higgledy-piggledy, with no regard for their truth.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor (1769-1821).
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| User: "" |
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31 Jul 2005 07:46:58 AM |
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Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
Give me a fact that supports your God's existance.
We're talking about YOU here, and YOUR claims of living
according to FACTS. Stop dancing. You made the claim,
and I've called you on your *****, and you've come
up empty and tried to shift the direction of the our
little conversation.
Give me a fact that supports your God's existance.
See above, and stop parroting.
But wait, aren't you vilolating one of the little rules? Isn't the
claim
that most atheists here don't believe in God, but also don't believe
that
there is no God (whatever that means)? You've just claimed that God
does not exist, and has not ever existed. Therefore, you are claiming
to believe that there is no God. Get your story straight, moron.
I claim tha God does not exist in the same spirit I claim Santa and the
Oster Bunny don't exist.
We already know what you've claimed. Read what I wrote above, again,
then try once more moron.
Got any evidence? No? Just blowing smoke out your *****, then.
Why not surprise us and show a little dignity. You've been called,
and you won't acknowledge that fact with a little class. I've
reduced you to a pathetic, dancing parrot.
It's a "Yule Tree".
Silly hypocrite. Yule Tree Mule Tree, call it what you like. You're
putting up a Christmas Tree idiot.
--
Cliff
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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31 Jul 2005 09:54:35 AM |
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wrote:
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
Give me a fact that supports your God's existance.
We're talking about YOU here, and YOUR claims of living
according to FACTS. Stop dancing. You made the claim,
and I've called you on your *****, and you've come
up empty and tried to shift the direction of the our
little conversation.
Enkidu isn't claiming anything exists.
Give me a fact that supports your God's existance.
See above, and stop parroting.
So we should believe you because you have no evidence?
But wait, aren't you vilolating one of the little rules? Isn't the
claim
that most atheists here don't believe in God, but also don't believe
that
there is no God (whatever that means)? You've just claimed that God
does not exist, and has not ever existed. Therefore, you are claiming
to believe that there is no God. Get your story straight, moron.
I claim tha God does not exist in the same spirit I claim Santa and the
Oster Bunny don't exist.
We already know what you've claimed. Read what I wrote above, again,
then try once more moron.
Please prove Santa doesn't exist.
Got any evidence? No? Just blowing smoke out your *****, then.
Why not surprise us and show a little dignity. You've been called,
and you won't acknowledge that fact with a little class. I've
reduced you to a pathetic, dancing parrot.
Please explain how one proves the non-existence of something.
It's a "Yule Tree".
Silly hypocrite. Yule Tree Mule Tree, call it what you like. You're
putting up a Christmas Tree idiot.
A symbol the christians stole from the pagans. Too bad.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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31 Jul 2005 07:56:36 AM |
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wrote:
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
It's a "Yule Tree".
Silly hypocrite. Yule Tree Mule Tree, call it what you like. You're
putting up a Christmas Tree idiot.
Silly hypocrite. Christmas Tree Shmistmas Tree, call it what you like.
You're putting up a Yule Tree, idiot.
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
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