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30 Nov 2006 02:46:15 AM |
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Why are Athiest so angry at Christians? |
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ? If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
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30 Nov 2006 03:34:48 AM |
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<noreply@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ? If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
*One* of the reasons is that they are forever trying to impose their
ridiculous beliefs on others -- especially vulnerable children. Another is
the 'Christian' refusal to look at the 'facts' surrounding their beliefs
squarely in the face. They believe the most outlandish and preposterous
things to be true without conceding that they just *may* be wrong, one bit.
Try this test:
Have an atheist and a Jesus junkie meet in front of you. Tell the atheist
that the videotape you are about to hand him contains some absolute,
no-doubt-about-it 'proof' that 'God' does indeed exist. (Now this is a
hypothetical scenario. So the 'videotape' *does* contain proof that 'God'
does, indeed, exist -- for hypothetical purposes.) Now you ask the atheist
(with the Jesus person stepping away for a bit) to put the videotape in the
tape machine next to you and watch the video to its conclusion -- and away
from the prying eyes and ears of the Jesus junkie.) Guess what'll happen?
The atheist will watch that videotape without any qualms. He or she will be
curious as to what form this 'proof' will be composed of.
Now go to the 'God person' and tell *that* individual that the videotape
contains (hypothetical) 'proof-positive's, no-doubt-about-it, unassailable
proof that there isn't a 'God'. Guess what'll happen? Go ahead and tell me
what that JW or some other bible humper will do? That's right! He or she
will absolutely *refuse* to look at it. (And later that day, go and preach
Jehovah or the 'Lord' to some unfortunate who happens to cross their path.)
*That* kind of ignorance upsets me greatly. Their condescending, ignorant
manner and refusal to accept that they just *may* be wrong is what gets my
blood boiling. But above all, it's their hypocrisy that does it for me. They
are often a haughty, ignorant lot. And I'm paying the price for it out here.
Believe you *me*, I am.
Greywolf
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| User: "" |
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30 Nov 2006 04:58:36 AM |
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My ISP dropped me and I lost my reply (dough!). I'll try again.
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well. If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence. That is why we have to use
writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the gaps.
I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist. I would even be willing to entertain the idea that
my beliefs might be wrong. If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
Greywolf wrote:
*That* kind of ignorance upsets me greatly. Their condescending, ignorant
manner and refusal to accept that they just *may* be wrong is what gets my
blood boiling. But above all, it's their hypocrisy that does it for me. They
are often a haughty, ignorant lot.
I can see now why you could get angry. Thank you for your point of
view. I forget that some Christians give others a bad name by the way
they act.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Why are Athiest so angry at Christians? |
30 Nov 2006 06:13:56 AM |
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<noreply@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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My ISP dropped me
Golly gee, I couldn't imagine why.
and I lost my reply (dough!). I'll try again.
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well. If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
Whatever - This is alt.atheism, not alt.please.let.me.preach.my.*****.
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence. That is why we have to use
writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the gaps.
Thanks for sharing, but I couldn't care less. Believe whatever the hell you
want, just keep it out of the government, public schools and my face.
I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist.
Sure - Just as soon as you show us yours with proof that Zeus doesn't exist.
Idiot. You think you're saying anything we haven't heard before? Why in the
world would you think we'd be interested in your *****?
And, no, I don't hate christians. However, I do have an extremely low
tolerance for ***** artists.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "" |
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30 Nov 2006 11:27:47 AM |
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schreef:
My ISP dropped me and I lost my reply (dough!). I'll try again.
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well. If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence. That is why we have to use
writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the gaps.
I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist. I would even be willing to entertain the idea that
my beliefs might be wrong. If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
I think that is an assertion that needs to be checked.
If a allmighty God wants me to believe in him then I will.
I don't so he doesn't
If an Allmighty God does not want me to believe in him,
why should I lose anything by not doing what he doesn't want me to?
There is loads of physical evidence that the bible is giving a false
account.
(starlight coming from billions of lightyears away, dynasours bones,
about everything to make one believe in evolution over billions of
years,
rather than in creation about 6000 years ago)
To produce that evidence one would need to be allmighty or close to it.
To produce a bibke one only has to be able to write.
or to have a friend that can do it for you.
So if the physical evidence was produced by the allmighty,
and the bible could have been produced by about anyone,
what risk do I take in believing the allmighty in stead of anyone?
OK my reasoning does not hold, if there is no allmighty,
but so does yours.
Sincerely
Peter van Velzen
November 2006
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "thomas p." |
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30 Nov 2006 08:27:14 AM |
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skrev:
My ISP dropped me and I lost my reply (dough!). I'll try again.
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well. If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
Telling somebody what you believe or don't believe (assuming he cares
to listen to you) is not imposing your belief.
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence. That is why we have to use
writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the gaps.
You have no such accounts.
I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist. I would even be willing to entertain the idea that
my beliefs might be wrong. If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
What makes you think that it is either accepting Jesus or being an
atheist? If you have chosen the wrong god, perhaps the real one is mad
at you; after all there are thousands to choose from. In any event it
says a lot about Christian morality that it teaches that a person
would be punished for an honest opinion.
Greywolf wrote:
*That* kind of ignorance upsets me greatly. Their condescending, ignorant
manner and refusal to accept that they just *may* be wrong is what gets my
blood boiling. But above all, it's their hypocrisy that does it for me. They
are often a haughty, ignorant lot.
I can see now why you could get angry. Thank you for your point of
view. I forget that some Christians give others a bad name by the way
they act.
Amusing.
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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30 Nov 2006 05:59:08 PM |
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wrote:
<Snip>
If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
<Lights><Sirens><Bells><Confetti><Balloons><Scantily-clad Dancing
Girls>
DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations! You are the Official One Millionth Person to Post
Pascal's Wager on Alt.Atheism!
You Win!
I'm not sure *what* you've won, but you win it!
<eyeroll>
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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30 Nov 2006 05:59:30 PM |
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wrote:
<Snip>
If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
<Lights><Sirens><Bells><Confetti><Balloons><Scantily-clad Dancing
Girls>
DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations! You are the Official One Millionth Person to Post
Pascal's Wager on Alt.Atheism!
You Win!
I'm not sure *what* you've won, but you win it!
<eyeroll>
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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30 Nov 2006 06:19:43 PM |
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wrote:
<Snips>
If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
<Lights> <Sirens> <Bells> <Confetti> <Scantily-clad Dancing Girls>
DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations! You are the Official One Millionth Person to Post
Pascal's Wager on Alt.Atheism!
You win! I'm not sure *what* you've won, but you win it!
<eyeroll>
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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30 Nov 2006 09:42:22 PM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1164930927.909319.245340@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
noreply@mytrashmail.com wrote:
<Snips>
If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
<Lights> <Sirens> <Bells> <Confetti> <Scantily-clad Dancing Girls>
DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations! You are the Official One Millionth Person to Post
Pascal's Wager on Alt.Atheism!
You win! I'm not sure *what* you've won, but you win it!
<eyeroll>
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
I get the impression that someone won something really special. It wouldn't
be a gilded copy of 'Pascal's Wager', would it? Or is it just another
2-liter bottle of a Generic-brand soda?
Greywolf
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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30 Nov 2006 11:02:24 AM |
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(snip)
I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist. I would even be willing to entertain the idea that
my beliefs might be wrong. If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost.
(snip)
If there is a jealous god that is not the hypothetical one
one you pray to, and there is after-death punishment for
unsupportable belief, you may be in more trouble than an
atheist who is honest enough to not believe in the absence
of evidence of this actual, jealous god. You imagine that
your hypothetical god is the only possibility in the
infinite unknown.
Abject belief in the absence of evidence is simply
dishonest. You may have to pay for your dishonesty.
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| User: "William T. Goat" |
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30 Nov 2006 11:15:21 AM |
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I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist. I would even be willing to entertain the idea that
my beliefs might be wrong. If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
....You've just revealed something about yourself.
You equate "accepting Jesus" with "living a good life".
Why?
Christians tell me all the time: you can't get into Heaven by being a
good person. Morality has nothing to do with salvation.
....right? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Because too often, Christians forget this. Christians make the mistake
that you just made, assuming that Christianity means "being good" and
everyone else is therefore "being bad".
And then it's a small step from "unbelievers are evil",
to "unbelievers deserve Hell",
to "unbelievers deserve death",
to "God wants me to kill unbelievers."
....and then you crash planes into buildings.
I'm not angry at Christians. I'm angry at anyone who would abandon
their own conscience for a chance at some selfish reward in Heaven, and
still call it "living a good life".
--Billy
"Whoever comes to me and does not HATE father and mother, wife and
children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my
disciple."
--Jesus's family values, Luke 14:26
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| User: "Richo" |
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30 Nov 2006 05:41:14 PM |
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My ISP dropped me and I lost my reply (dough!). I'll try again.
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well.
Which atheists?
If they do exist I would be angry at them too.
If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
Sure.
When they try and *legislate* that their beliefs are mandatory then it
is time to stand up and fight.
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence. That is why we have to use
writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the gaps.
I am pretty sure there are no writings of eye witness accounts.
I am open to being convinced of course.
I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist.
Dont have proof that God doesnt exist - dont need it.
I would even be willing to entertain the idea that
my beliefs might be wrong. If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
I dont have an eternal soul - so I have no fear of loosing it.
Mark.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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30 Nov 2006 08:58:14 AM |
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My ISP dropped me and I lost my reply (dough!). I'll try again.
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well. If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
No, we do not. We fight back against the constant threat of being
forced to live in a theocracy of narrow minded bigots that have yet
to learn that they do not have an exclusive market on morals or
sacred text. We push back, legally, to remind the theocrats that
we are NOT required to live by their reading of their text.
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence. That is why we have to use
writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the gaps.
Wrong. The failures of the bible and other sacred text in the area of
objective evidence is well documented, and ignored by the xtians. You
also must understand, xtians are not alone in the arena of willfully
ignoring facts. Muslims, Hindus, and others fall into the same
category when it comes to ignoring what is painfully clear.
I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist. I would even be willing to entertain the idea that
my beliefs might be wrong. If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
Pascal's Wager does not work. One, prove that there is a soul. So far
no one seems to be able to do that.
Two, what if you picked the wrong god to follow?
Greywolf wrote:
*That* kind of ignorance upsets me greatly. Their condescending, ignorant
manner and refusal to accept that they just *may* be wrong is what gets my
blood boiling. But above all, it's their hypocrisy that does it for me. They
are often a haughty, ignorant lot.
I can see now why you could get angry. Thank you for your point of
view. I forget that some Christians give others a bad name by the way
they act.
Honesty adds a great deal to credibility. As long as you recognize
the above statement, and always keep in mind that the xtians you
don't like are the same ones we don't like, you'll go a long way
to getting clear answers and generally friendly debate.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "" |
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30 Nov 2006 05:43:39 AM |
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My ISP dropped me and I lost my reply (dough!). I'll try again.
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well. If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence. That is why we have to use
writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the gaps.
The writings are hearsay by unknown authors. IIRC the writer of the
Luke gospel even admits that outright at the beginning.
Klazmon.
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| User: "Niels" |
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30 Nov 2006 05:16:42 AM |
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Hi,
On Thursday 30 November 2006 11:58, wrote:
[snip]
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well.
Can you please give some examples of this? And can you please
spell "atheist" correctly -- otherwise it'll look like you're trying to
deliberately annoy and disrespect atheists.
If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence.
Which means that you don't have much basis for a belief. The problem is
starting with a belief and then looking for evidence, rather that basing
one's beliefs on available evidence.
That is why we have to use writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the
gaps.
Many have claimed such sources here on alt.atheism, but haven't been able to
provide them when asked. What sources, specifically, are you referring to?
I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist.
Here's where you finally reveal that you're either ill-informed or just
plain dishonest. This is a fundamental logical fallacy, as I'm sure you're
well aware.
I would even be willing to entertain the idea that
my beliefs might be wrong. If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost.
Other than all the time and effort you've wasted on wrong things...
But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
Wow, what a clever argument! A so new and shiny! You've certainly convinced
me!
[snip rest]
//Niels
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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30 Nov 2006 05:10:55 AM |
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On 30 Nov 2006 02:58:36 -0800, wrote:
My ISP dropped me and I lost my reply (dough!). I'll try again.
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well. If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
No, liar - it's not a belief but a demographic of people who aren't
any kind of theist.
It's in-your-face stupidity, misrepresentation, intellectual
dishonesty and imposition of your religion that makes people angry.
Like you exhibit below.
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence. That is why we have to use
writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the gaps.
What "facts"?
I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist. I would even be willing to entertain the idea that
Not our problem, moron. Thew world doesn't revolve around your
religious delusions.
If you rudely and stupidly talk at us as though it were real, you have
to prove it.
Until then it's merely somebody else's ridiculous belief.
my beliefs might be wrong. If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
Don't be so fucking stupid.
Greywolf wrote:
*That* kind of ignorance upsets me greatly. Their condescending, ignorant
manner and refusal to accept that they just *may* be wrong is what gets my
blood boiling. But above all, it's their hypocrisy that does it for me. They
are often a haughty, ignorant lot.
I can see now why you could get angry. Thank you for your point of
view. I forget that some Christians give others a bad name by the way
they act.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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30 Nov 2006 11:25:17 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Christopher A.Lee
(calee@optonline.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence. That is why we have to use
writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the gaps.
What "facts"?
What eye-witnesses?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
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| User: "John Baker" |
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30 Nov 2006 07:50:17 AM |
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On 30 Nov 2006 02:58:36 -0800, wrote:
My ISP dropped me and I lost my reply (dough!). I'll try again.
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well. If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
The value, if any, of what's being said is determined by the listener,
not the speaker. Believing you have something of value to say and
*having* something of value to say are not the same thing. And if I
become angry with a Christian for whatever reason, I am not imposing
my beliefs on him. I'm merely becoming angry with him. Atheism has no
beliefs to impose, since it is not a belief system. It is merely the
state of *not* subscribing to *your* belief system.
And please... don't make the arrogant mistake so many Christians make
of trying to tell an atheist he's wrong about what atheism is. You
don't get to make that call. We don't presume to tell Christians what
they really believe. Don't presume to tell us what we believe.
Most Christians are willing to look at the facts, but when you are
talking about something that happened 2000 years ago, you are not going
to find a lot of hard physical evidence. That is why we have to use
writings of eye witness accounts to fill in the gaps.
What "eye witness accounts?" The earliest gospels date to at least
thirty years *after* the (alleged) fact, and there is no real evidence
that they were actually written by the men to whom they've been
attributed, or that those men ever actually existed.
I would be glad to watch your (hypothetical) video tape with proof that
God does not exist. I would even be willing to entertain the idea that
my beliefs might be wrong. If my beliefs are wrong and I lived a good
life for no reason, nothing lost. But if the Athiest is wrong and has
never accepted Jesus, he has lost his eternal soul.
Congratulations. You're the one billionth Christian to invoke Pascal's
Wager in alt.atheism. There's no prize, but you get bragging rights.
<G>
Greywolf wrote:
*That* kind of ignorance upsets me greatly. Their condescending, ignorant
manner and refusal to accept that they just *may* be wrong is what gets my
blood boiling. But above all, it's their hypocrisy that does it for me. They
are often a haughty, ignorant lot.
I can see now why you could get angry. Thank you for your point of
view. I forget that some Christians give others a bad name by the way
they act.
Indeed they do. Try not to be one of them.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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02 Dec 2006 07:18:45 AM |
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On 30 Nov 2006 02:58:36 -0800, wrote:
My ISP dropped me and I lost my reply (dough!). I'll try again.
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well. If someone believes
that have something of value to say, that should not cause someone to
be angry.
Why you such an in-your-face dishonest, stupid liar?
Atheists don't have any beliefs to impose AS ATHEISTS.
You have nothing of value to say and you impose your religion where it
is neither wanted nor needed. You slander and attack those outside
your religion. Youtry to get your myths taught as fact. People react
to that, not whatever it is you believe.
But then you knew all this anyway and were just being stupid.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Nov 2006 11:25:21 AM |
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 02:58:36 -0800, noreply wrote:
Athiests impose their beliefs on others as well.
<snork>
Yeah. Right.
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Mark K. Bilbo
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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30 Nov 2006 07:36:19 PM |
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wrote in news:1164876375.315899.60000
@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ? If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
Let me describe it like this.
You've got a little clubhouse. All your friends are invited to come and
hang out.
Then the neighborhood assholes show up, shouting and bullying and
disrupting your clubhouse.
Would you not be angered by such behavior?
This newsgroup is our clubhouse. The christers are the neighborhood
assholes. They invaded--we're simply giving them the reception they
deserve.
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Doc Smartass
"***** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses." -- Relf's Law
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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30 Nov 2006 05:46:19 PM |
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wrote:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ?
Because they won't leave us the hell alone in our own newsgroup.
That, plus the fact that voluntary stupidity just wears on your nerves
after a while.
If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians
Don't take alt.atheism and confuse it with real life.
except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
IRL, I go months at a time without the subject of religion even coming
up. It would be nice to just be able to talk to fellow atheists on
a.a. without the Christians (and the Moslems, and assorted theists of
other flavors) butting in, but we can't seem to make them stop.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "Gods Creator! The Jew TEXT & HTML" |
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30 Nov 2006 06:24:37 PM |
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skyeyes wrote:
noreply@mytrashmail.com wrote:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ?
Because they won't leave us the hell alone in our own newsgroup.
That, plus the fact that voluntary stupidity just wears on your nerves
after a while.
If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians
Don't take alt.atheism and confuse it with real life.
except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
IRL, I go months at a time without the subject of religion even coming
up. It would be nice to just be able to talk to fellow atheists on
a.a. without the Christians (and the Moslems, and assorted theists of
other flavors) butting in, but we can't seem to make them stop.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
Thus Spake: *G* *O* *D* *S* *C* *R* *E* *A* *T* *O* *R*
It's time for the "Atheist (3 -Test 101) Inquisition"
You must test their faith by asking each one to:
--- Fly off the top of a building like angels,
Or
--- Walk on water in the middle of a deep lake.
And if they are TRUE_ believers.
--- Resurrect themselves in (3-10) days.
If they fail either test... What's left, must be crucified...
"Guaranteed to convince non-believers",
Otherwise...
Never! mention FIRE! around a religiously hypnotized Zombie. 8-)
God's Creator!
(I am Life & Death)
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cite="mid1164930379.167954.3350@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com"
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<pre wrap=""><font color="#993399"><big><b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:noreply@mytrashmail.com">noreply@mytrashmail.com</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ?
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
Because they won't leave us the hell alone in our own newsgroup.
That, plus the fact that voluntary stupidity just wears on your nerves
after a while.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
Don't take alt.atheism and confuse it with real life.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
IRL, I go months at a time without the subject of religion even coming
up. It would be nice to just be able to talk to fellow atheists on
a.a. without the Christians (and the Moslems, and assorted theists of
other flavors) butting in, but we can't seem to make them stop.
<big><big><font color="#3333ff"><b>Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34</b></font></big></big>
<b>EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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<div align="center"><font color="#009900"><big><big><b>Thus Spake: *G*
*O* *D* *S* *C* *R* *E* *A* *T* *O* *R*</b></big></big></font><br>
<br>
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</b></big>
<div align="center"><big><b>It's time for the "Atheist (3 -Test
101) Inquisition"</b></big><br>
<br>
<big><b>You must test their faith by asking each one to:</b></big><br>
<big><b> --- Fly off the top of a building like angels,<br>
<br>
</b></big><big><b>Or </b></big><br>
<big><b> --- Walk on water in the middle of a deep lake.</b></big><br>
<br>
<big><b>And if they are TRUE_ believers.</b></big><br>
<big><b> --- Resurrect themselves in (3-10) days.<br>
<br>
<font color="#cc0000"><big>If they fail either test... What's left,
must be crucified...<br>
</big><big> </big></font></b></big><br>
<big><b><i><big><font color="#3333ff">"Guaranteed to convince
non-believers",</font><br>
</big></i><br>
</b></big><big><b> Otherwise... </b></big><br>
<big><b> Never! mention FIRE! around a religiously hypnotized
Zombie. <span class="moz-smiley-s11"><span> 8-) </span></span><br>
<br>
</b></big><br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<font color="#009900"><big><big><b>God's Creator! </b></big></big></font><br>
(<font color="#cc0000"><big><b>I am Life & Death)</b></big></font><br>
<br>
<br>
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| User: "cactus" |
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| Title: Re: Why are Athiest so angry at Christians? |
30 Nov 2006 11:19:18 AM |
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wrote:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ? If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
That is true for the vast majority of atheists. But like the
self-proclaimed Christians on this group, they are willing to engage in
conversation for whatever their reasons.
Classic case of a biased sample.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Why are Athiest so angry at Christians? |
30 Nov 2006 11:21:34 AM |
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:19:18 GMT, cactus <bm1@nonespam.com> wrote:
noreply@mytrashmail.com wrote:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ? If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
That is true for the vast majority of atheists. But like the
self-proclaimed Christians on this group, they are willing to engage in
conversation for whatever their reasons.
He'd think twice if he had to endure the barrage we get.
Classic case of a biased sample.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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30 Nov 2006 05:33:20 AM |
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wrote:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ? If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
The almost continuous barrage of insults and dogmatic threats of
hellfire and damnation that they throw at us daily. Tends to wear on
one's nerves after a while. Multiply that with the regular
condescending comments of their superiority as they like to try and
"talk down to you sinners", and you start to understand why some of us
loose our temper from time to time.
Then, there is the issue that many of us have very little tolerance for
ignorance. Especially the willful ignorance shown by some of our
regular theistic posters. Then there are those few self professed
fundies, that are just down right mean for the sake of being mean.
And don't think the xtian fundies are the only ones that I and others
get pissed at. Muslims fair no better when they pull their ***** here as
well. Nor do Hindus or new agers.
Polite conversation is greeted with polite conversation. But, come in
here and post with a chip on your shoulder, and we can give as good as
we get, some times even better.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "raven1" |
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30 Nov 2006 08:56:49 PM |
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wrote:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ? If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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30 Nov 2006 10:55:53 AM |
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wrote:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ? If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
Evidently, you are not often bothered by believers (door to
door missionaries, TV advertising, intrusion into
governmental functions, etc.). Lucky you.
If Christians (or any other flavor of believer in
hypothetical deities) kept their religion to themselves, it
would never occur to me to think about religion,
hypothetical deities or believers in such. But they don't.
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| User: "Nosterill" |
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30 Nov 2006 08:11:43 AM |
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wrote:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ? If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
I'm not angry with Christians in general. The friendly neighbourhood
parishioners are generally a benign presence and if they want to spend
their Sundays singing in an overcomplicated building, I have no problem
with that. I do, however, have a problem when I am not allowed to see
or read something simply because their book of magic says I shouldn't
or when my children have significant areas of their education blocked
because some aspects of reality don't conform to the mythology.
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| User: "Martin" |
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30 Nov 2006 05:31:20 AM |
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wrote:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ? If I was an atheist, I don't think I would think
twice about Christians except maybe to have pity on them for believing
something that I didn't think was true.
Quickly because I'm working, how about the following:
waking me up at 9:30 on a sunday morning because they really, really
want to talk to me
yelling at me when I go shopping in the market on a saturday
I generally object to people being shot and blown up for doing their
jobs and their families harassed
equally I object to parties at the olynpic games having bombs placed at
the event
I object to groups of people having a tax advantage just because they
belong to a state approved group
how's that to be going on with?
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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30 Nov 2006 08:12:39 AM |
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In alt.atheism On 30 Nov 2006 00:46:15 -0800,
let us all know that:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ?
They aren't.
Any more stupid questions?
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Why are Athiest so angry at Christians? |
30 Nov 2006 04:27:16 AM |
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In article <1164876375.315899.60000@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
I'm just curious why some of the atheists on this site are so angry
with Christians ?
I don't bash Christians. I just bash the big fuckheads who say stupid,
superstitious nonsense and expect reasoning people to accept it without
question. If you're not such a person, then you have nothing to fear
from me. M'kay?
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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