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Religions > Atheism |
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"quibbler" |
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31 Aug 2003 09:40:25 AM |
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Why do Moore's supporters receive so much damn coverage? |
During the lead up to the Iraqi war I was involved in protests involving
five and ten thousand people. Yet the news media barely covered the
event and treated it as a small/insignificant gathering. Now, when
anywhere from a few dozen to around 1000 religious zealots continue to
loiter around the state courthouse in talabama, the news media seems to
be covering it every fucking day. For example:
javascript:%20rs("ss","http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?p=news&g=events/p
l/081503raymoore&e=1&tmpl=sl&nosum=0&large=0&t=1062169280",750,580);
If there is a so-called "liberal" media in this country, as so many neo-
cons continue to dubiously allege, then why is it that war supporters got
virtually ignored and these theocrats are getting all kind of press? One
would think the "liberal" media would want to cover the war protesters
and ignore the theocrats, but that sure ain't what seems to be happening.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Moore's supporters receive so much damn coverage? |
31 Aug 2003 04:52:09 PM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote
Now, when anywhere from a few dozen to around 1000
religious zealots continue to loiter around the state
courthouse in talabama, the news media seems to be
covering it every fucking day.
Smoke & mirrors.
The Bush administration caught the power brokers bribing
California's energy companies to shut down plants and
drive up the price on out-of-state electricity.
When did this happen? Oh, back in 2001... months before 9/11.
Bush's justice department sealed away the evidence. They
made it a federal crime for anyone to use the evidence against
the power companies & energy brokers, in both criminal cases
and civil suits. CBS news reported this story back in July of
2001... on their web site.
Even so, half of California still thinks Davis had something to
do with California's energy problems. Maybe because deregulation
was signed into law by the Republicans under Pete Wilson.
Anyhow, the destruction of democracy in places like California
requires that real news and important issues be kept away from
everyone's eyes, replaced by smoke & mirrors like Moore's rock.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Moore's supporters receive so much damn coverage? |
01 Sep 2003 02:39:25 AM |
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In article <MPG.19bbb6af9d15909598a0e8@news.cis.dfn.de>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
During the lead up to the Iraqi war I was involved in protests involving
five and ten thousand people. Yet the news media barely covered the
event and treated it as a small/insignificant gathering. Now, when
anywhere from a few dozen to around 1000 religious zealots continue to
loiter around the state courthouse in talabama, the news media seems to
be covering it every fucking day. For example:
javascript:%20rs("ss","http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?p=news&g=events/p
l/081503raymoore&e=1&tmpl=sl&nosum=0&large=0&t=1062169280",750,580);
If there is a so-called "liberal" media in this country, as so many neo-
cons continue to dubiously allege, then why is it that war supporters got
virtually ignored and these theocrats are getting all kind of press? One
would think the "liberal" media would want to cover the war protesters
and ignore the theocrats, but that sure ain't what seems to be happening.
Maybe that's what they mean by "Fair and Balanced". I recall how the
media ignored demonstrations with tens of thousands of anti-war
protesters and yet when 50 or so people would show up and wave flags
in support of the war, it was all over the 6 O'clock news.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Moore's supporters receive so much damn coverage? |
01 Sep 2003 09:06:04 AM |
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:39:25 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <MPG.19bbb6af9d15909598a0e8@news.cis.dfn.de>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
During the lead up to the Iraqi war I was involved in protests involving
five and ten thousand people. Yet the news media barely covered the
event and treated it as a small/insignificant gathering. Now, when
anywhere from a few dozen to around 1000 religious zealots continue to
loiter around the state courthouse in talabama, the news media seems to
be covering it every fucking day. For example:
javascript:%20rs("ss","http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?p=news&g=events/p
l/081503raymoore&e=1&tmpl=sl&nosum=0&large=0&t=1062169280",750,580);
If there is a so-called "liberal" media in this country, as so many neo-
cons continue to dubiously allege, then why is it that war supporters
got virtually ignored and these theocrats are getting all kind of press?
One would think the "liberal" media would want to cover the war
protesters and ignore the theocrats, but that sure ain't what seems to
be happening.
Maybe that's what they mean by "Fair and Balanced". I recall how the media
ignored demonstrations with tens of thousands of anti-war protesters and
yet when 50 or so people would show up and wave flags in support of the
war, it was all over the 6 O'clock news.
I remember how that went. You could've missed the protests going on in LA.
The local news rushed by the THOUSANDS protesting like flying down an open
freeway only slowing down to cover the about six people waving flags and
signs that approved of god...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Moore's supporters receive so much damn coverage? |
02 Sep 2003 12:11:48 AM |
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In article <pan.2003.09.01.14.06.03.970247@eac.org>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:39:25 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <MPG.19bbb6af9d15909598a0e8@news.cis.dfn.de>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
During the lead up to the Iraqi war I was involved in protests involving
five and ten thousand people. Yet the news media barely covered the
event and treated it as a small/insignificant gathering. Now, when
anywhere from a few dozen to around 1000 religious zealots continue to
loiter around the state courthouse in talabama, the news media seems to
be covering it every fucking day. For example:
javascript:%20rs("ss","http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?p=news&g=events/p
l/081503raymoore&e=1&tmpl=sl&nosum=0&large=0&t=1062169280",750,580);
If there is a so-called "liberal" media in this country, as so many neo-
cons continue to dubiously allege, then why is it that war supporters
got virtually ignored and these theocrats are getting all kind of press?
One would think the "liberal" media would want to cover the war
protesters and ignore the theocrats, but that sure ain't what seems to
be happening.
Maybe that's what they mean by "Fair and Balanced". I recall how the media
ignored demonstrations with tens of thousands of anti-war protesters and
yet when 50 or so people would show up and wave flags in support of the
war, it was all over the 6 O'clock news.
I remember how that went. You could've missed the protests going on in LA.
The local news rushed by the THOUSANDS protesting like flying down an open
freeway only slowing down to cover the about six people waving flags and
signs that approved of god...
Pretty much the same in San Diego. They would ignore the hundreds of
anti-war protesters and focus on the few waving the flags and "We
support the troops" signs. San Diego is a big military town, but I
think that the biggest protests since the Vietnam war deserved more
coverage than that. Not very fair and balanced if you ask me.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Moore's supporters receive so much damn coverage? |
02 Sep 2003 09:26:51 AM |
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:11:48 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <pan.2003.09.01.14.06.03.970247@eac.org>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:39:25 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <MPG.19bbb6af9d15909598a0e8@news.cis.dfn.de>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
During the lead up to the Iraqi war I was involved in protests
involving five and ten thousand people. Yet the news media barely
covered the event and treated it as a small/insignificant gathering.
Now, when anywhere from a few dozen to around 1000 religious zealots
continue to loiter around the state courthouse in talabama, the news
media seems to be covering it every fucking day. For example:
javascript:%20rs("ss","http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?p=news&g=events/p
l/081503raymoore&e=1&tmpl=sl&nosum=0&large=0&t=1062169280",750,580);
If there is a so-called "liberal" media in this country, as so many
neo- cons continue to dubiously allege, then why is it that war
supporters got virtually ignored and these theocrats are getting all
kind of press?
One would think the "liberal" media would want to cover the war
protesters and ignore the theocrats, but that sure ain't what seems
to be happening.
Maybe that's what they mean by "Fair and Balanced". I recall how the
media ignored demonstrations with tens of thousands of anti-war
protesters and yet when 50 or so people would show up and wave flags
in support of the war, it was all over the 6 O'clock news.
I remember how that went. You could've missed the protests going on in
LA. The local news rushed by the THOUSANDS protesting like flying down
an open freeway only slowing down to cover the about six people waving
flags and signs that approved of god...
Pretty much the same in San Diego. They would ignore the hundreds of
anti-war protesters and focus on the few waving the flags and "We support
the troops" signs. San Diego is a big military town, but I think that the
biggest protests since the Vietnam war deserved more coverage than that.
Not very fair and balanced if you ask me.
And this in what has always been considered a "liberal" state no less.
This media consolidation thing really *is out of hand. And I used to be
such a Libertarian. <wry-g>
But, really, it *is a liberal state. And LA is one of it's liberal leaning
cities (okay, so the Bay Area is so left they almost bumped into Japan
<g>). Yet the LA Times--other than having a real hard on about gun
control--was veering to the right after being bought out.
There was that idiotic cartoonist Michael Ramirez who--when his cartoons
made any sense--made Bush look like a commie pinko leftist. I never could
figure that one out (like about the half the time I couldn't figure out
what the *hell Ramirez thought he was saying).
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Moore's supporters receive so much damn coverage? |
02 Sep 2003 02:26:35 PM |
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There was that idiotic cartoonist Michael Ramirez who--when his cartoons
made any sense--made Bush look like a commie pinko leftist.
I don't know. I think anyone who begins initiating a KGB-style Justice
department, radically increases the power of the federal government, breaks
down separation of powers and crushes dissenting speech might be accurately
painted as a "commie pinko leftist." Neo-cons sure ain't conservative, that's
for certain.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Ill-Legal Dept. "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here"
"My country, right or wrong; to be defended when right and righted when wrong."
- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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02 Sep 2003 06:02:28 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 19:26:35 +0000, Lord Calvert wrote:
There was that idiotic cartoonist Michael Ramirez who--when his cartoons
made any sense--made Bush look like a commie pinko leftist.
I don't know. I think anyone who begins initiating a KGB-style Justice
department, radically increases the power of the federal government,
breaks down separation of powers and crushes dissenting speech might be
accurately painted as a "commie pinko leftist." Neo-cons sure ain't
conservative, that's for certain.
Definitely not conservatives. But Ramirez is... well, when he makes sense
he seems to think the neo-cons are being soft on us or something...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Moore's supporters receive so much damn coverage? |
03 Sep 2003 12:40:36 AM |
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In article <pan.2003.09.02.14.26.51.404344@eac.org>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:11:48 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <pan.2003.09.01.14.06.03.970247@eac.org>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:39:25 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <MPG.19bbb6af9d15909598a0e8@news.cis.dfn.de>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
During the lead up to the Iraqi war I was involved in protests
involving five and ten thousand people. Yet the news media barely
covered the event and treated it as a small/insignificant gathering.
Now, when anywhere from a few dozen to around 1000 religious zealots
continue to loiter around the state courthouse in talabama, the news
media seems to be covering it every fucking day. For example:
javascript:%20rs("ss","http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?p=news&g=events/
p
l/081503raymoore&e=1&tmpl=sl&nosum=0&large=0&t=1062169280",750,580);
If there is a so-called "liberal" media in this country, as so many
neo- cons continue to dubiously allege, then why is it that war
supporters got virtually ignored and these theocrats are getting all
kind of press?
One would think the "liberal" media would want to cover the war
protesters and ignore the theocrats, but that sure ain't what seems
to be happening.
Maybe that's what they mean by "Fair and Balanced". I recall how the
media ignored demonstrations with tens of thousands of anti-war
protesters and yet when 50 or so people would show up and wave flags
in support of the war, it was all over the 6 O'clock news.
I remember how that went. You could've missed the protests going on in
LA. The local news rushed by the THOUSANDS protesting like flying down
an open freeway only slowing down to cover the about six people waving
flags and signs that approved of god...
Pretty much the same in San Diego. They would ignore the hundreds of
anti-war protesters and focus on the few waving the flags and "We support
the troops" signs. San Diego is a big military town, but I think that the
biggest protests since the Vietnam war deserved more coverage than that.
Not very fair and balanced if you ask me.
And this in what has always been considered a "liberal" state no less.
This media consolidation thing really *is out of hand. And I used to be
such a Libertarian. <wry-g>
But, really, it *is a liberal state. And LA is one of it's liberal leaning
cities (okay, so the Bay Area is so left they almost bumped into Japan
<g>). Yet the LA Times--other than having a real hard on about gun
control--was veering to the right after being bought out.
I read both the LA Times and the San Diego Union-Tribune. I used to
read the Times to get the liberal perspective and the U-T for the more
conservative one (and they do have the local news). Now it's hard for
me to tell the difference bertween their editorial pages. Welcome to
the era of totally homogenized pasteurized news.
There was that idiotic cartoonist Michael Ramirez who--when his cartoons
made any sense--made Bush look like a commie pinko leftist. I never could
figure that one out (like about the half the time I couldn't figure out
what the *hell Ramirez thought he was saying).
Ramirez thinks that everyone except him is a lying, liberal, loony,
commie, fanatic terrorist. And those are just the people that he
likes.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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03 Sep 2003 01:15:26 AM |
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 22:40:36 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <pan.2003.09.02.14.26.51.404344@eac.org>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:11:48 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <pan.2003.09.01.14.06.03.970247@eac.org>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:39:25 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <MPG.19bbb6af9d15909598a0e8@news.cis.dfn.de>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
During the lead up to the Iraqi war I was involved in protests
involving five and ten thousand people. Yet the news media barely
covered the event and treated it as a small/insignificant
gathering. Now, when anywhere from a few dozen to around 1000
religious zealots continue to loiter around the state courthouse
in talabama, the news media seems to be covering it every fucking
day. For example:
javascript:%20rs("ss","http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?p=news&g=events/
p
l/081503raymoore&e=1&tmpl=sl&nosum=0&large=0&t=1062169280",750,580);
If there is a so-called "liberal" media in this country, as so
many neo- cons continue to dubiously allege, then why is it that
war supporters got virtually ignored and these theocrats are
getting all kind of press?
One would think the "liberal" media would want to cover the war
protesters and ignore the theocrats, but that sure ain't what
seems to be happening.
Maybe that's what they mean by "Fair and Balanced". I recall how
the media ignored demonstrations with tens of thousands of anti-war
protesters and yet when 50 or so people would show up and wave
flags in support of the war, it was all over the 6 O'clock news.
I remember how that went. You could've missed the protests going on
in LA. The local news rushed by the THOUSANDS protesting like flying
down an open freeway only slowing down to cover the about six people
waving flags and signs that approved of god...
Pretty much the same in San Diego. They would ignore the hundreds of
anti-war protesters and focus on the few waving the flags and "We
support the troops" signs. San Diego is a big military town, but I
think that the biggest protests since the Vietnam war deserved more
coverage than that. Not very fair and balanced if you ask me.
And this in what has always been considered a "liberal" state no less.
This media consolidation thing really *is out of hand. And I used to be
such a Libertarian. <wry-g>
But, really, it *is a liberal state. And LA is one of it's liberal
leaning cities (okay, so the Bay Area is so left they almost bumped into
Japan <g>). Yet the LA Times--other than having a real hard on about gun
control--was veering to the right after being bought out.
I read both the LA Times and the San Diego Union-Tribune. I used to read
the Times to get the liberal perspective and the U-T for the more
conservative one (and they do have the local news). Now it's hard for me
to tell the difference bertween their editorial pages. Welcome to the era
of totally homogenized pasteurized news.
There was that idiotic cartoonist Michael Ramirez who--when his cartoons
made any sense--made Bush look like a commie pinko leftist. I never
could figure that one out (like about the half the time I couldn't
figure out what the *hell Ramirez thought he was saying).
Ramirez thinks that everyone except him is a lying, liberal, loony,
commie, fanatic terrorist. And those are just the people that he likes.
I cannot believe the Times takes that man seriously.
I've heard of trying to be "balanced" but wouldn't that entail finding a
cartoonist who isn't unbalanced?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "johac" |
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04 Sep 2003 12:02:36 AM |
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In article <pan.2003.09.03.06.15.25.871887@eac.org>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 22:40:36 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <pan.2003.09.02.14.26.51.404344@eac.org>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:11:48 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <pan.2003.09.01.14.06.03.970247@eac.org>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:39:25 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <MPG.19bbb6af9d15909598a0e8@news.cis.dfn.de>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
During the lead up to the Iraqi war I was involved in protests
involving five and ten thousand people. Yet the news media barely
covered the event and treated it as a small/insignificant
gathering. Now, when anywhere from a few dozen to around 1000
religious zealots continue to loiter around the state courthouse
in talabama, the news media seems to be covering it every fucking
day. For example:
javascript:%20rs("ss","http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?p=news&g=even
ts/
p
l/081503raymoore&e=1&tmpl=sl&nosum=0&large=0&t=1062169280",750,580);
If there is a so-called "liberal" media in this country, as so
many neo- cons continue to dubiously allege, then why is it that
war supporters got virtually ignored and these theocrats are
getting all kind of press?
One would think the "liberal" media would want to cover the war
protesters and ignore the theocrats, but that sure ain't what
seems to be happening.
Maybe that's what they mean by "Fair and Balanced". I recall how
the media ignored demonstrations with tens of thousands of anti-war
protesters and yet when 50 or so people would show up and wave
flags in support of the war, it was all over the 6 O'clock news.
I remember how that went. You could've missed the protests going on
in LA. The local news rushed by the THOUSANDS protesting like flying
down an open freeway only slowing down to cover the about six people
waving flags and signs that approved of god...
Pretty much the same in San Diego. They would ignore the hundreds of
anti-war protesters and focus on the few waving the flags and "We
support the troops" signs. San Diego is a big military town, but I
think that the biggest protests since the Vietnam war deserved more
coverage than that. Not very fair and balanced if you ask me.
And this in what has always been considered a "liberal" state no less.
This media consolidation thing really *is out of hand. And I used to be
such a Libertarian. <wry-g>
But, really, it *is a liberal state. And LA is one of it's liberal
leaning cities (okay, so the Bay Area is so left they almost bumped into
Japan <g>). Yet the LA Times--other than having a real hard on about gun
control--was veering to the right after being bought out.
I read both the LA Times and the San Diego Union-Tribune. I used to read
the Times to get the liberal perspective and the U-T for the more
conservative one (and they do have the local news). Now it's hard for me
to tell the difference bertween their editorial pages. Welcome to the era
of totally homogenized pasteurized news.
There was that idiotic cartoonist Michael Ramirez who--when his cartoons
made any sense--made Bush look like a commie pinko leftist. I never
could figure that one out (like about the half the time I couldn't
figure out what the *hell Ramirez thought he was saying).
Ramirez thinks that everyone except him is a lying, liberal, loony,
commie, fanatic terrorist. And those are just the people that he likes.
I cannot believe the Times takes that man seriously.
I've heard of trying to be "balanced" but wouldn't that entail finding a
cartoonist who isn't unbalanced?
I think that there is a line between political satire and just plain
nastiness. It must be so fine that Ramirez can't see it. I have no
idea what he is doing in the Times.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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31 Aug 2003 12:26:47 PM |
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:40:25 -0600, quibbler wrote:
During the lead up to the Iraqi war I was involved in protests involving
five and ten thousand people. Yet the news media barely covered the event
and treated it as a small/insignificant gathering. Now, when anywhere
from a few dozen to around 1000 religious zealots continue to loiter
around the state courthouse in talabama, the news media seems to be
covering it every fucking day. For example:
javascript:%20rs("ss","http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?p=news&g=events/p
l/081503raymoore&e=1&tmpl=sl&nosum=0&large=0&t=1062169280",750,580);
If there is a so-called "liberal" media in this country, as so many neo-
cons continue to dubiously allege, then why is it that war supporters got
virtually ignored and these theocrats are getting all kind of press? One
would think the "liberal" media would want to cover the war protesters and
ignore the theocrats, but that sure ain't what seems to be happening.
Ayup. It's *such a "liberal" media that conservatives get almost all the
attention...
(Then again, maybe it's a plot... yeah, show how idiotic they are and let
them destroy themselves! <evil cackle>)
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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